Euthanise?

[Ali Day]

I bought three Stripped bulldog catfish a few few weeks back, one of them
ended up with a bacterial infection the started eating away at it's face. At
the time it looked like it was struggling, but now all the white dead flesh
has disappeared and just looks red. For about 4 days now it _seems_ OK, but
with so much damage I'm wondering if it's more humaine to euthanise it
Any ideas?

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cheers

A

[Ali Day]

"Ali Day" > wrote in message
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>I bought three Stripped bulldog catfish a few few weeks back, one of them
>ended up with a bacterial infection the started eating away at it's face.
>At the time it looked like it was struggling, but now all the white dead
>flesh has disappeared and just looks red. For about 4 days now it _seems_
>OK, but with so much damage I'm wondering if it's more humaine to euthanise
>it

sorry should have said that I also medicated hell out of the tank, and
that's maybe why it has stopped. Can it heal?


> Any ideas?
>
> www.cern.ch/aday/images/plec1.jpg
> www.cern.ch/aday/images/plec2.jpg
>
> cheers
>
> A
>
>

[Andy Hill]

"Ali Day" > wrote:
>"Ali Day" > wrote in message
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>>I bought three Stripped bulldog catfish a few few weeks back, one of them
>>ended up with a bacterial infection the started eating away at it's face.
>>At the time it looked like it was struggling, but now all the white dead
>>flesh has disappeared and just looks red. For about 4 days now it _seems_
>>OK, but with so much damage I'm wondering if it's more humaine to euthanise
>>it
>
>sorry should have said that I also medicated hell out of the tank, and
>that's maybe why it has stopped. Can it heal?
>
Well, if the fish is behaving more-or-less normally, I'd take the wait and see
approach. OTOH, the pictures you posted look like a seriously ill fish --
clamped fins, laying on side, etc. Any fish of mine in that condition more
than a day or two would be euth'd.

[winddancir]

Any fish of mine in that condition more than a day or two would be euth'd.
I don't agree with getting rid of a fish because of illness. The only times one of my fish would leave me is if I gave it away, sold some, or it died. I feel that when you have a pet, you are responsible for it no matter what.
But that is my opinion, and everyone has their own.

[dfreas]

If you haven't already then get the medication out of the tank - 20 to
30% water changes are in order for a couple of days. Medication is
particularly hard on catfish and if you "medicated the hell out of the
tank" then it probably is not a good environment for them to heal in.

The second thing to do is push the temperature up a few degrees - don't
go above 80 but push it up into the high 70s if it isn't already. Then
increase feedings if the catfish is eating well - if he isn't eating
well try live food if you can get it.

Catfish heal extremely well and given a good environment there is no
reason that this fish can't recover...he may have scars but he will
make a full recovery if you take good care of him.

-Daniel

[Elaine T]

dfreas wrote:
> If you haven't already then get the medication out of the tank - 20 to
> 30% water changes are in order for a couple of days. Medication is
> particularly hard on catfish and if you "medicated the hell out of the
> tank" then it probably is not a good environment for them to heal in.
>
Some very good advice here. Remember to put the carbon back in your
filter if you took it out. I would be concerned about fungus growing on
a wound like that and the best preventative for fungus is a very clean
tank and good water. If you see any fungus (white cottony fluff)
appearing on the wound, net the fish and dab some malachite green on it
with a cotton swab. Keep the malachite green off of his gills and good
eye. Malachite green works great and doesn't degrade water quality.

> The second thing to do is push the temperature up a few degrees - don't
> go above 80 but push it up into the high 70s if it isn't already. Then
> increase feedings if the catfish is eating well - if he isn't eating
> well try live food if you can get it.
>
> Catfish heal extremely well and given a good environment there is no
> reason that this fish can't recover...he may have scars but he will
> make a full recovery if you take good care of him.
>
> -Daniel
>
Agreed.

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[Tom Randy]

On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 22:03:46 +0000, winddancir wrote:

>
> Andy Hill Wrote:
>> Any fish of mine in that condition more than a day or two would be
>> euth'd.
> I don't agree with getting rid of a fish because of illness. The only
> times one of my fish would leave me is if I gave it away, sold some, or it
> died. I feel that when you have a pet, you are responsible for it no
> matter what.
> But that is my opinion, and everyone has their own.


I just put down one of my albino corys last night, looked like he was
either in a fight with another cory or something was eating away it's
nose/mouth. Can't be good and I seriously doubt recovery will happen. I'd
rather the fish not suffer. I used clove oil as usual. Found another cory
earlier in the day dead as well. Unfortunately in this hobby you're going
to lose fish once in a while.

[Samuel Warren]

Clove Oil? Please elaborate?

This message was written on 100% recycled spam. SAM >>

"Tom Randy" > wrote in message
.. .
> On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 22:03:46 +0000, winddancir wrote:
>
> >
> > Andy Hill Wrote:
> >> Any fish of mine in that condition more than a day or two would be
> >> euth'd.
> > I don't agree with getting rid of a fish because of illness. The only
> > times one of my fish would leave me is if I gave it away, sold some, or
it
> > died. I feel that when you have a pet, you are responsible for it no
> > matter what.
> > But that is my opinion, and everyone has their own.
>
>
> I just put down one of my albino corys last night, looked like he was
> either in a fight with another cory or something was eating away it's
> nose/mouth. Can't be good and I seriously doubt recovery will happen. I'd
> rather the fish not suffer. I used clove oil as usual. Found another cory
> earlier in the day dead as well. Unfortunately in this hobby you're going
> to lose fish once in a while.
>
>

[Nikki Casali]

Samuel Warren wrote:
> Clove Oil? Please elaborate?
>


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Nikki

[Ali Day]

"Elaine T" > wrote in message
. ..
> dfreas wrote:
>> If you haven't already then get the medication out of the tank - 20 to
>> 30% water changes are in order for a couple of days. Medication is
>> particularly hard on catfish and if you "medicated the hell out of the
>> tank" then it probably is not a good environment for them to heal in.

OK exaggeration I have clown loaches so I'm careful on quantities I put in,
but the tank was a nice lurid green for a week.

>> Catfish heal extremely well and given a good environment there is no
>> reason that this fish can't recover...he may have scars but he will
>> make a full recovery if you take good care of him.

Thanks to everyone but he popped his clogs sunday everything seemed to be
going well, the medication had already been out of the tank for a number of
days, and it looked like the wound was healing. Got up yesterday and he was
dead. In 4 odd years of big tanks, it's first time I've lost a fish to
disease, so I'm a bit peeved about it all really.