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April 5th 05, 12:26 PM
Dave S Wrote:
> "Iain Miller" wrote in message
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> "Dave S" wrote in message
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> "Iain Miller" wrote in message
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> Dave S wrote:
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> "NCG" wrote in message
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> Hello,
>
> I have a 500g JBL CO2 bottle which I currently refill by taking it to
> the fish shop and having it replaced for a filled bottled for £9.
>
> I was trying to look for other cheaper alternatives and made some
> phone
> calls, but it seems that gas suppliers would only do that if you rent
> the bottle from them and pay a monthly fee, which wouldn't be cheaper.
>
> Anyone knows of a cheaper way to have CO2 bottles refilled?
>
> Any information would be appreciated.
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
> --
> NCG
>
>
> I had the same problem - my LFS in Hampshire is now trying to source
> it.
>
> Now you're making me paranoid. I'd better start ringing around now
> before my 2kg bottle runs down. How about a fire station?
>
> I use 3Kg bottles from my local Calor depot . The JBL regulator needs
> a
> slight sanding with wet & dry to fit but works a treat. About £15 a
> refill - just take the old bottle to the depot & grab a full one.
>
> I.
> -
> Hi Iain - Excuse my ignorance; Is co2 the same as Calor gas? (Stupid
> question I know)-
>
> LOL...no!
>
> Calor supply all sorts of different bottled gases - propane, butane,
> oxygen, CO2, Acetylene etc etc etc. The CO2 is usually supplied for
> pubs I
> think - but they have racks of the stuff at my local depot just
> outside
> Guildford. Two different sized bottles - a 3kg and 7Kg. The 3Kg bottle
> is
> around 51/52 cm tall & maybe 15cm across. The 7Kg is twice as tall.
> The
> bottles are not pretty but fortunately it fits in the cupboard under
> my
> tank. You don't have to buy a bottle & there is no deposit - just turn
> up
> & ask for a 3kg or 7kg bottle of CO2, hand over your £15 (dunno what
> the
> 7Kg costs - probably £25-£30) & that's that. When its empty take it
> back &
> get another one. Because its meant for pubs etc its "food grade" CO2
> so
> its very clean & works well. I've been using it for a couple of years
> with
> no problems. One bottle lasts me about 9-10 months in my 65G tank & I
> don't worry too much about wasteage or limiting surface movement. Its
> controlled by a PH controller anyway so it turns itself on & off as
> needed.
>
> The JBL regulator is slightly oversize for the Calor bottle (which has
> an
> international std neck on it). All you need to do is take the O-ring
> off
> the regulator (carefully!) & have at it with some 120 Grit Wet & dry
> sandpaper - takes about 10-15 minutes just to take enough off for it
> to
> fit. Get a calor bottle, try & fit the regulator & you'll see what I
> mean
> & which bit you need to "adjust". The threaded collar that you tighten
> up
> onto the bottle fits fine - its the bit inside this that doesn't go
> inside
> the calor neck properly. My tip for the day is to buy yourself some
> spare
> O-rings if you don't have any!
>
> Its the O-ring that makes the seal anyway ( a tiny smear of vaseline
> is a
> good idea on the rubber) so don't worry about doing it & the thing
> still
> works fine on the std JBL bottle - I still use mine for a couple of
> days
> here & there everytime I run out of the main bottle. You'll take the
> chrome off the nose of the regulator obviously but that is no matter
> -
> underneath its brass as would be expected & you don't see the bit you
> need
> to adjust. Lord alone knows why JBL made the thing slightly oversize
> -
> probably to make sure we had to use their hideously overpriced CO2 I
> expect!
>
> HTH
>
> Iain-
> Thanks for taking the time to reply in such detail - it really is
> appreciated. I'll start looking into this as another option to obtain
> CO2.
>
> Dave
Ian,
Thanks a lot! That was of much help!
Dave,
If you're still without CO2 and getting nervous, JBL are selling
disposable CO2 gas bottles for around £14 (500g). I know you can find
them online, but you'd better make sure that they fit your system, as
I've never used them.
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NCG
> "Iain Miller" wrote in message
> ...-
>
> "Dave S" wrote in message
> ...-
>
> "Iain Miller" wrote in message
> ...-
>
> "Nikki Casali" wrote in message
> ...
>
>
> Dave S wrote:
>
> "NCG" wrote in message
> ...
>
> Hello,
>
> I have a 500g JBL CO2 bottle which I currently refill by taking it to
> the fish shop and having it replaced for a filled bottled for £9.
>
> I was trying to look for other cheaper alternatives and made some
> phone
> calls, but it seems that gas suppliers would only do that if you rent
> the bottle from them and pay a monthly fee, which wouldn't be cheaper.
>
> Anyone knows of a cheaper way to have CO2 bottles refilled?
>
> Any information would be appreciated.
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
> --
> NCG
>
>
> I had the same problem - my LFS in Hampshire is now trying to source
> it.
>
> Now you're making me paranoid. I'd better start ringing around now
> before my 2kg bottle runs down. How about a fire station?
>
> I use 3Kg bottles from my local Calor depot . The JBL regulator needs
> a
> slight sanding with wet & dry to fit but works a treat. About £15 a
> refill - just take the old bottle to the depot & grab a full one.
>
> I.
> -
> Hi Iain - Excuse my ignorance; Is co2 the same as Calor gas? (Stupid
> question I know)-
>
> LOL...no!
>
> Calor supply all sorts of different bottled gases - propane, butane,
> oxygen, CO2, Acetylene etc etc etc. The CO2 is usually supplied for
> pubs I
> think - but they have racks of the stuff at my local depot just
> outside
> Guildford. Two different sized bottles - a 3kg and 7Kg. The 3Kg bottle
> is
> around 51/52 cm tall & maybe 15cm across. The 7Kg is twice as tall.
> The
> bottles are not pretty but fortunately it fits in the cupboard under
> my
> tank. You don't have to buy a bottle & there is no deposit - just turn
> up
> & ask for a 3kg or 7kg bottle of CO2, hand over your £15 (dunno what
> the
> 7Kg costs - probably £25-£30) & that's that. When its empty take it
> back &
> get another one. Because its meant for pubs etc its "food grade" CO2
> so
> its very clean & works well. I've been using it for a couple of years
> with
> no problems. One bottle lasts me about 9-10 months in my 65G tank & I
> don't worry too much about wasteage or limiting surface movement. Its
> controlled by a PH controller anyway so it turns itself on & off as
> needed.
>
> The JBL regulator is slightly oversize for the Calor bottle (which has
> an
> international std neck on it). All you need to do is take the O-ring
> off
> the regulator (carefully!) & have at it with some 120 Grit Wet & dry
> sandpaper - takes about 10-15 minutes just to take enough off for it
> to
> fit. Get a calor bottle, try & fit the regulator & you'll see what I
> mean
> & which bit you need to "adjust". The threaded collar that you tighten
> up
> onto the bottle fits fine - its the bit inside this that doesn't go
> inside
> the calor neck properly. My tip for the day is to buy yourself some
> spare
> O-rings if you don't have any!
>
> Its the O-ring that makes the seal anyway ( a tiny smear of vaseline
> is a
> good idea on the rubber) so don't worry about doing it & the thing
> still
> works fine on the std JBL bottle - I still use mine for a couple of
> days
> here & there everytime I run out of the main bottle. You'll take the
> chrome off the nose of the regulator obviously but that is no matter
> -
> underneath its brass as would be expected & you don't see the bit you
> need
> to adjust. Lord alone knows why JBL made the thing slightly oversize
> -
> probably to make sure we had to use their hideously overpriced CO2 I
> expect!
>
> HTH
>
> Iain-
> Thanks for taking the time to reply in such detail - it really is
> appreciated. I'll start looking into this as another option to obtain
> CO2.
>
> Dave
Ian,
Thanks a lot! That was of much help!
Dave,
If you're still without CO2 and getting nervous, JBL are selling
disposable CO2 gas bottles for around £14 (500g). I know you can find
them online, but you'd better make sure that they fit your system, as
I've never used them.
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NCG