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Jason
April 13th 05, 08:13 PM
I have a 12g nanocube, originally with 12 happy guppies. All were
active and doing well. Water chemistry normal (0
ammonia/nitrites--fully-cycled, <20ppm nitrates, pH 7.2 stable). Then,
about 2-3 weeks after introducing fish into the tank, I've been losing
an average of one fish per day.

The ones that die seem normal, including a big (I'm assuming) pregnant
one that was ravenously hungry until she did die. (I do feed them quite
a bit...probably 3 slowly-released pinches of small-pellet food per
day--they eat about a third while they're sinking, and then scour the
bottom for food pellets later. They also nibble at the brown algae that
collects in there--I have fluorite media, rich in silicates) I did a
25% water change after the first 2 died, even though nitrates were
around 30ppm; didn't stop the die-off.

I just noticed that another guppy has a tattered tail and is now
missing one of his "side" (flipper?) fins, and it looks absolutely
exhausted. They all tend to swim near the filter exit where there's a
current, while sometimes scouring the bottom for food.

I have absolutely no idea why they're dying. There are a least a dozen
small snails that appeared in the last week--eggs probably on the
plants. But they seem harmless enough.

Why are the fish suddenly dying, after 2-3 weeks of bliss? Why is that
one fish so beaten-up looking? Anyone have an experience similar to
this?

-Jason

Elaine T
April 14th 05, 08:34 AM
Jason wrote:
> I have a 12g nanocube, originally with 12 happy guppies. All were
> active and doing well. Water chemistry normal (0
> ammonia/nitrites--fully-cycled, <20ppm nitrates, pH 7.2 stable). Then,
> about 2-3 weeks after introducing fish into the tank, I've been losing
> an average of one fish per day.
>
> The ones that die seem normal, including a big (I'm assuming) pregnant
> one that was ravenously hungry until she did die. (I do feed them quite
> a bit...probably 3 slowly-released pinches of small-pellet food per
> day--they eat about a third while they're sinking, and then scour the
> bottom for food pellets later. They also nibble at the brown algae that
> collects in there--I have fluorite media, rich in silicates) I did a
> 25% water change after the first 2 died, even though nitrates were
> around 30ppm; didn't stop the die-off.
>
> I just noticed that another guppy has a tattered tail and is now
> missing one of his "side" (flipper?) fins, and it looks absolutely
> exhausted. They all tend to swim near the filter exit where there's a
> current, while sometimes scouring the bottom for food.
>
> I have absolutely no idea why they're dying. There are a least a dozen
> small snails that appeared in the last week--eggs probably on the
> plants. But they seem harmless enough.
>
> Why are the fish suddenly dying, after 2-3 weeks of bliss? Why is that
> one fish so beaten-up looking? Anyone have an experience similar to
> this?
>
> -Jason
>
Sometimes it's hard to find healthy guppies. I've had Singapore guppies
die off for no apparent reason the way you're describing. Guppies from
fish farms are overbred and very susceptible to diseases.

Start changing more water and filter over fresh carbon to see if you can
fix any subtle water quality problems. Also gradually add 1 tsp/gallon
salt over 2 or 3 days - guppies like some salt in their water.

If the rest die, I'd suggest starting again with stock from a local show
guppy breeder who has healthier fish with better genetics. You shold be
able to find someone through your local aquarium society.

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