what are you going to try, do, new in the pond this year

[kathy]

Feeling a bit overwhelmed by the continuing
attacks so thought I'd create a new topic.

What are you going to try new in the pond this
year?
A new plant, make a veggie filter, build a bog,
try a different kind of fish, add a turtle, repel
invaders, or build a new pond or container water
garden?

kathy
www.blogfromthebog.com

[Gary Woods]

"kathy" > wrote:

>Feeling a bit overwhelmed by the continuing
>attacks so thought I'd create a new topic.
>

The killfile is good. The killfile is your friend. A very few entries
improve the signal:noise something wonderful!

>What are you going to try new in the pond this
>year?

After several years of doldrums (is the plural doldra? ), I'm getting my
aged butt in gear. Not really new stuff, but paying more attention. I had
several lotus that died from overcrowding during the Dark Ages; I got one
started last summer and expect it to winter OK, though no new growth yet.
The "Mrs. Perry D. Slocum" I got from Lilypons a couple of weeks ago is
putting up a couple of shoots, and another plant is due to arrive next
week.

Some of the hardies divided, and will get dropped back in the pond
hopefully this evening, and Morning Glories to grow on the memorial gazebo
to make it an even better place for reflection.

And of course, the regular garden; I'm already behind, but I know I've got
lots of company...

Peace,


Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic
Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G

[Elaine T]

kathy wrote:
> Feeling a bit overwhelmed by the continuing
> attacks so thought I'd create a new topic.
>
> What are you going to try new in the pond this
> year?
> A new plant, make a veggie filter, build a bog,
> try a different kind of fish, add a turtle, repel
> invaders, or build a new pond or container water
> garden?
>
> kathy
> www.blogfromthebog.com
>
I built my first water garden ever. It's 3 whiskey barrels connected by
spillways on my patio. I've got all sorts of plants in it now - the
umbrella palm and marginal grasses are doing the best. I put my first
lily in this weekend, and can't wait to see the first lily pad. I also
bought a gorgeous dwarf canna, iris, and pickerel weed. It's turning
out to be a challenge but I've gotten tons of help around here.

--
Elaine T __
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[Bonnie NJ]

Hi Kathy,
I'm thinking of moving the frog pond. I'm wondering if the frogs will
cooporate. DH said go ahead - that means he has no thought of helping ;-).

--
Bonnie
NJ

[Gareee©]

"kathy" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> Feeling a bit overwhelmed by the continuing
> attacks so thought I'd create a new topic.
>
> What are you going to try new in the pond this
> year?
> A new plant, make a veggie filter, build a bog,
> try a different kind of fish, add a turtle, repel
> invaders, or build a new pond or container water
> garden?

We added many new plants this year, tossed in some of the awful tasting
watercresss (YUCK!), and I built a filter for my spitter pump, hoping it'll
help cure my greenwater.

Frogs have discovered our pond (new las year), and we have about 2 dozen or
so now, plus lots of tads. (We also have salamanders or newts, and spotted a
snake last week, but he's been hiding since then.)

Haven't seen much of our fish at all, but our cat likes to drink from the
pond, so that might be making them hide.

Plus our water is very murky green, so we can;t see much at all.

I also added a underwater light (front chicago tools), and rewired my
electric out there, so the pong pump runs 24/7, and the outdoor lights
around it come on at night.. might cost a little more in electric, but we
might see less green water with my oxy in the pond.

We're considering adding a waterfall as well, but haven't decided yet on
that.

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[~Roy~]

Continue on improvinmg ,my water as much as possible and may fool
around with a few 55 gal drums made into filters , settlement
chambers, perhaps a trickle tower etc, and see if I can get the water
looking better than it already is.....I just installed a new 1" water
line to the pond area and garden, and also ran a new #4 220 VAC
underground electric service so its just wanting more pumps hooked up
to it, and I have pump on the way, as well as a nice Haywood that
came from a pool which will work good with lots of head pressure
....Probably try and increase depth another foot, if my current
spillway and overflow hold up, then I'll add another 1 foot to water
level and make it so there is only about an 8 inch bank at the highest
point, and it will extend it surface wise a pretty fair distance,
which will make my shallow section approx 2 feet deep minimum. All it
takes is clay, dirt bentonite and time. I have a slight seep right now
and hopefully the bentonite will soon kick in and stop it, but its no
a big deal, but sometimes it can take a couple of days for bentonite
to do its thing.

If I do raise the level I have a heap of plants thats gonna need
relocating as well, so one thing leads to another and it never
ends....

==============================================
Put some color in your cheeks...garden naked!

[Reel McKoi]

"kathy" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> Feeling a bit overwhelmed by the continuing
> attacks so thought I'd create a new topic.
>
> What are you going to try new in the pond this
> year?
> A new plant, make a veggie filter, build a bog,
> try a different kind of fish, add a turtle, repel
> invaders, or build a new pond or container water
> garden?
=========================
I just bought a mini Umbrella plant (Cyperus) and a colorful chameleon
plant (Houttuynia) for my small 150 gallon pond. The little waterfall is
also new for this year. The rosy reds love it and hang out at the bottom,
in the turbulence. This little pond is a real show piece.

McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
~~~ }<((((o> ~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~ }<(((((o>

[~ jan JJsPond.us]

>What are you going to try new in the pond this
>year?
>kathy

I can tell you what I've done so far. Removed the pot at the top of the
waterfall. Originally it was a fake flower pot filter my son had made.

Having no idea back then that it wouldn't even begin to filter a pond our
size once the fish grew. The next year (1997) the guys put in the barrel
filter, but plumb it into the back of the fake flower pot. (I wasn't home
at the time to prevent this.) This year we finally removed it at the same
time that son added a spigot into the output pipe so I can do water change
outs using the pond pump, rather than having to put an extra pump into the
pond. Now it is snap on hose, open spigot and turn on refill water, run for
20-30 minutes.

Another change was selling my biggest and oldest fish, pond looks empty
without her, but all those babies have room to grow now. I still have a big
black one for the new owners to come pick up too. Then I can concentrate on
removing some of the plain colored babies (if I can catch them) and looking
for a black butterfly koi. ~ jan


See my ponds and filter design:
www.jjspond.us

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website

[C+J Tondreau]

"kathy" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> Feeling a bit overwhelmed by the continuing
> attacks so thought I'd create a new topic.
>
> What are you going to try new in the pond this
> year?
> A new plant, make a veggie filter, build a bog,
> try a different kind of fish, add a turtle, repel
> invaders, or build a new pond or container water
> garden?
>
> kathy
> www.blogfromthebog.com

We are actually filling in our current pond, redesigning our whole back yard
to acccomodate adult & kid stuff and will be putting in a smaller pond. Not
sure what the final plans are yet, but it's exciting designing/dreaming it
all!

Jacqui
>

[Bill Stock]

"~ jan JJsPond.us" > wrote in message
...
> >What are you going to try new in the pond this
>>year?
>>kathy
>
> I can tell you what I've done so far. Removed the pot at the top of the
> waterfall. Originally it was a fake flower pot filter my son had made.
>
> Having no idea back then that it wouldn't even begin to filter a pond our
> size once the fish grew. The next year (1997) the guys put in the barrel
> filter, but plumb it into the back of the fake flower pot. (I wasn't home
> at the time to prevent this.) This year we finally removed it at the same
> time that son added a spigot into the output pipe so I can do water change
> outs using the pond pump, rather than having to put an extra pump into the
> pond. Now it is snap on hose, open spigot and turn on refill water, run
> for
> 20-30 minutes.
>

Jan,

I'd like to hear more about your Flower Pot filter. I have one of the Cyprio
Bioforce things now and it's pain to clean twice a week. So I was
considering the Flower Pot thing or the half barrel filter. My pond is about
500 gallons max. Would the FP be big enough for this size pond?

Any tips.

[Phyllis and Jim Hurley]

Jim is just finishing replacing our kiddie pools with a 10' x 4' edpm
lined pond. The weight of the rocks on the sides of the kiddie pools
folded and cracked them. Bummer.

Jim is using toilet fittings to handle the drains.

Phyllis

kathy wrote:
> Feeling a bit overwhelmed by the continuing
> attacks so thought I'd create a new topic.
>
> What are you going to try new in the pond this
> year?
> A new plant, make a veggie filter, build a bog,
> try a different kind of fish, add a turtle, repel
> invaders, or build a new pond or container water
> garden?
>
> kathy
> www.blogfromthebog.com
>

[Ann in Houston]

pics, pics, pics, please. And, good to see you still around.

[Ann in Houston]

I have converted the big front pond into a planted one with bf koi and
gf only. I already have a new Arc en Ciel and I put in irises, some
callas and some horsetail. I also got a free mystery plant that I have
seen in pond books, but I don't know the name. Watch for a thread with
a link to a pic. I have to take it, and then figure out how to link to
it Photobucket.
The bfkoi are only in there with the gf, because the new koi pond
turned out to be too small for such big fish. Those two are the
biggest ones we have and it was just too many fish inches. I now also
have to keep on walking when I see pretty fishies w/short fins.
Out of the pond, we will be revamping our flower beds, and I am having
fun planning that new design. Also, DH is actually thinking of
fertilizing the grass. Since mowing season around here starts in early
March and goes up until October, we have never wanted to fertilize it
until we could get an extra day added to the week. But, of course,
weeds grow just as fast as grass and maybe even faster. The hope is
that if we can encourage the St. A. to overtake the weeds, the same
amount of effort will yield nicer results.

[Lt. Kizhe Catson]

kathy wrote:
> Feeling a bit overwhelmed by the continuing
> attacks so thought I'd create a new topic.
>
> What are you going to try new in the pond this
> year?

Dig a new pond. About one-third the size of the present one, and in the
shade -- finding good shade plants should be a fun challenge.

-- Kizhe

> A new plant, make a veggie filter, build a bog,
> try a different kind of fish, add a turtle, repel
> invaders, or build a new pond or container water
> garden?
>
> kathy
> www.blogfromthebog.com
>

[Reel McKoi]

"Ann in Houston" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> pics, pics, pics, please. And, good to see you still around.
=========================
I'm not sure where to upload them to. Know of any easy to use FREE sites?
:-)
--
McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
~~~ }<((((o> ~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~ }<(((((o>

[2pods]

"Bill Stock" > wrote in message
...
>
> I'd like to hear more about your Flower Pot filter. I have one of the
> Cyprio Bioforce things now and it's pain to clean twice a week. So I was
> considering the Flower Pot thing or the half barrel filter. My pond is
> about 500 gallons max. Would the FP be big enough for this size pond?
>
> Any tips.

This year I'm in front for a change :-)
New "raised" pond already in (10' x 8' x 3'), covered what was left of the
"lawn" with weed control fabric, slate, white, and bark chips.

Changed the Titan pump to the bigger pond, replacing it with a Cascade
(strictly speaking not a solids pump, but it works great ! ), used the
bottom of the Bioforce 2200UV with the top of a non-UV Bioforce 1100 feeding
into a Cyprio 4500 UV for the bigger pond.
Put the bottom of the non- UV 1100 under the lid of the bigger UV equipped
2200 and everything seems OK.

Added Candlestick Primulas, Fritilleries (Sp ?), and Marsh Marigold to go
with Mare's Tail, etc, and a new water lily for the bigger pond.

Bill, I normally only have to clean my Bioforce about every 2 months, and
that's been on all year with 4 goldfish in.
What pump are you using ?

Peter

[Stephen Henning]

"Reel McKoi" > wrote:

> I'm not sure where to upload them to. Know of any easy to use FREE sites?
> :-)

Your internet supplier (ISP) should have space available. If not you
can get free webspace from Yahoo. For more visit:

http://geocities.yahoo.com

This service is easy to use since it is menu driven from you internet
browser.

Getting back to ponds, in my pond which is spring fed with no pump or
filter, I am in the process of installing an air pump (40 watt) to
aerate the pond. I noticed some anaerobic bacteria this spring when I
was bringing up my plants from the bottom of the pond. The minnows were
OK, but there was some anaerobic slime on the bottom.
--
Pardon my spam deterrent; send email to
18,000 gallon (17'x 47'x 2-4') lily pond garden in Zone 6
Cheers, Steve Henning in Reading, PA USA

[Reel McKoi]

"Stephen Henning" > wrote in message
...
> "Reel McKoi" > wrote:
>
> > I'm not sure where to upload them to. Know of any easy to use FREE
sites?
> > :-)
>
> Your internet supplier (ISP) should have space available. If not you
> can get free webspace from Yahoo. For more visit:
=====================
Yes my ISP provides space but since I've had so much trouble with a few
whiners and a stalker I would rather not use that space at this time. I'll
look into alternatives first.

-
McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
~~~ }<((((o> ~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~ }<(((((o>

[Bill Stock]

"2pods" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Bill Stock" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> I'd like to hear more about your Flower Pot filter. I have one of the
>> Cyprio Bioforce things now and it's pain to clean twice a week. So I was
>> considering the Flower Pot thing or the half barrel filter. My pond is
>> about 500 gallons max. Would the FP be big enough for this size pond?
>>
>> Any tips.
>
> This year I'm in front for a change :-)
> New "raised" pond already in (10' x 8' x 3'), covered what was left of the
> "lawn" with weed control fabric, slate, white, and bark chips.
>
> Changed the Titan pump to the bigger pond, replacing it with a Cascade
> (strictly speaking not a solids pump, but it works great ! ), used the
> bottom of the Bioforce 2200UV with the top of a non-UV Bioforce 1100
> feeding into a Cyprio 4500 UV for the bigger pond.
> Put the bottom of the non- UV 1100 under the lid of the bigger UV equipped
> 2200 and everything seems OK.
>
> Added Candlestick Primulas, Fritilleries (Sp ?), and Marsh Marigold to go
> with Mare's Tail, etc, and a new water lily for the bigger pond.
>
> Bill, I normally only have to clean my Bioforce about every 2 months, and
> that's been on all year with 4 goldfish in.
> What pump are you using ?
>
> Peter
Hi Peter,

I thought Nessie had gotten you.

I have a Laguna 1500 at the moment. Pond is about 500 gallons and nine GF.
The main problem seems to be Algae and silt.

[~ jan JJsPond.us]

>I'd like to hear more about your Flower Pot filter. I have one of the Cyprio
>Bioforce things now and it's pain to clean twice a week. So I was
>considering the Flower Pot thing or the half barrel filter. My pond is about
>500 gallons max. Would the FP be big enough for this size pond?
>
>Any tips.

I have pictures on my website. Click on *My Filter* and scroll to the
bottom of the page. ~ jan


See my ponds and filter design:
www.jjspond.us

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website

[kathy]

I'm going to try sweet potato vine again.
But not on the sunken Atlantis island...

I have two tub gardens that I grew society garlic
and some kind of lacy groud cover type plant in
(I will try to be better about names!)

Went out to one of my favorite nurseries today
and bought some lime green and a darker shade
of the sweet potato vine and will plant it in the tubs
this weekend if I get the chance. (We are having round
the clock band stuff around here, very busy.)

kathy :-)

[kathy]

I'm going to try sweet potato vine again.
But not on the sunken Atlantis island...

I have two tub gardens that I grew society garlic
and some kind of lacy groud cover type plant in
(I will try to be better about names!)

Went out to one of my favorite nurseries today
and bought some lime green and a darker shade
of the sweet potato vine and will plant it in the tubs
this weekend if I get the chance. (We are having round
the clock band stuff around here, very busy.)

kathy :-)

[Gill Passman]

"kathy" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> Feeling a bit overwhelmed by the continuing
> attacks so thought I'd create a new topic.
>
> What are you going to try new in the pond this
> year?
> A new plant, make a veggie filter, build a bog,
> try a different kind of fish, add a turtle, repel
> invaders, or build a new pond or container water
> garden?
>
> kathy
> www.blogfromthebog.com
>
apart from going through my killfiles again!!!!

My plan is to dig a pond - we had one 6 years ago that was badly sited under
some very large trees. Now my daughter is 4 I'm ready to start again which
is why I have been watching this newsgroup.....

I've chosen the site which is away from any trees and actually close to the
house so in a good position for power etc.....I'm now working on the design
and trying to decide if it will be raised (in which case Koi might be an
option) or just a natural pond. Right now I'm looking at the natural side
and looking at maybe digging it a bit deeper so Koi could be an option.

Once I've decided on the type of pond and the fish that I want to put in
there I will be looking at my options for filtration.....and go from there.
Spade will probably come out within the next week or two (unfortunately we
can't get a digger out the back so it will be hand dug)

Gill

[2pods]

> Hi Peter,
>
> I thought Nessie had gotten you.

How did you know about my Mother-in-law's summer job :-)

I've spent most of the winter tinkering with the fish tanks (more pumps,
more filters, not enough UV's ), but that's me started ponding again.
>
> I have a Laguna 1500 at the moment. Pond is about 500 gallons and nine GF.
> The main problem seems to be Algae and silt.

I'm using a Cyprio Titan 2000 and most of the silt etc stays in the pump
cage, though my bioforce 2200 needs cleaned more often now, so maybe it's
time for new sponges ?

Peter

[Bill Stock]

"2pods" > wrote in message
...
>> Hi Peter,
>>
>> I thought Nessie had gotten you.
>
> How did you know about my Mother-in-law's summer job :-)
>
> I've spent most of the winter tinkering with the fish tanks (more pumps,
> more filters, not enough UV's ), but that's me started ponding again.

I just set up a Betta tank in the office. I'm hoping to give the indoor GF
an auto water changer, once they go to the cottage (Pond).

>> I have a Laguna 1500 at the moment. Pond is about 500 gallons and nine
>> GF. The main problem seems to be Algae and silt.
>
> I'm using a Cyprio Titan 2000 and most of the silt etc stays in the pump
> cage, though my bioforce 2200 needs cleaned more often now, so maybe it's
> time for new sponges ?

Yes, mine needs a tune up kit, sponges and O-Ring. I'm toying with the idea
of a flower pot (skippy) filter instead. But the pot I bought seems rather
flimsy, I can see it cracking under the weight of the water.

Your Cyprio filter is much larger, likely explains the reduced cleaning.

>
> Peter
>
>
>
>

[Koitoy]

kathy Wrote:
> Feeling a bit overwhelmed by the continuing
> attacks so thought I'd create a new topic.
>
> What are you going to try new in the pond this
> year?
> A new plant, make a veggie filter, build a bog,
> try a different kind of fish, add a turtle, repel
> invaders, or build a new pond or container water
> garden?
>
> kathy
> www.blogfromthebog.com

I am in the process of filling in my upper pond with dirt. This area
will be planted and I will put a bench there and place my lotuses there
as well. This way we can enjoy the pond from 2 sides. I added a stream
with a header pond to aid filtration. The water was crystal clear until
I mucked it up with some clay that got away from me.

I lifted the liner and got the clay that had undermined this winter
during a horrible weather spell. 10 inches of snow melted- then rained
for 3 days. Since I had my water level below ground level- there was
some serious liner bublling and some undermining. After I reviewed the
law of physics that says water will seek it's own level- I stopped
draining the pond to below ground level. Before this physics review,
stupid happened- as I previously thought that if my pond overflowed it
would drain water under the liner and cause the bubbling. Therefore I
drained the pond - which ensured bubbling when the ground water table
rose. lol (and crying a little too).


--
Koitoy

[Koitoy]

Koitoy Wrote:
> I am in the process of filling in my upper pond with dirt. This area
> will be planted and I will put a bench there and place my lotuses there
> as well. This way we can enjoy the pond from 2 sides. I added a stream
> with a header pond to aid filtration. The water was crystal clear until
> I mucked it up with some clay that got away from me.
>
> I lifted the liner and got the clay that had undermined this winter
> during a horrible weather spell. 10 inches of snow melted- then rained
> for 3 days. Since I had my water level below ground level- there was
> some serious liner bublling and some undermining. After I reviewed the
> law of physics that says water will seek it's own level- I stopped
> draining the pond to below ground level. Before this physics review,
> stupid happened- as I previously thought that if my pond overflowed it
> would drain water under the liner and cause the bubbling. Therefore I
> drained the pond - which ensured bubbling when the ground water table
> rose. lol (and crying a little too).

Umm... I meant to say that we will enjoy the other pond.....


--
Koitoy