bad mixture?

[sophiefishstuff]

Would I be right in thinking that a pair of kribs would not play well
with loaches? (particularly kuhlis)?
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[Elaine T]

sophiefishstuff wrote:
>
> Would I be right in thinking that a pair of kribs would not play well
> with loaches? (particularly kuhlis)?

If the kribs are breeding, they won't play particularly well with
anything. However, most loaches have a defensive spine on the gill
cover (Botias) or behind the eye (kuhlis) and will use it to discourage
unwanted attention. This means they don't tend to get hurt by
aggressive tankmates. However, kuhlis would probably hide in the
substrate or under rocks and wood if the kribs are chasing them so you'd
have invisible fish.

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[NetMax]

"Elaine T" > wrote in message
om...
> sophiefishstuff wrote:
>>
>> Would I be right in thinking that a pair of kribs would not play well
>> with loaches? (particularly kuhlis)?
>
> If the kribs are breeding, they won't play particularly well with
> anything. However, most loaches have a defensive spine on the gill
> cover (Botias) or behind the eye (kuhlis) and will use it to discourage
> unwanted attention. This means they don't tend to get hurt by
> aggressive tankmates. However, kuhlis would probably hide in the
> substrate or under rocks and wood if the kribs are chasing them so
> you'd have invisible fish.
>
> --
> Elaine T __
> http://eethomp.com/fish.html <'__><


Just to add to Elaine's comments, a lot also depends on the size of the
tank. The Kribs will secure a radius around their spawning site, so in a
large enough tank, the Kuhlis would be a non-issue. Depending on how
thickly planted and rocked it is, the Kribs would claim a 10 to 20"
radius (guessing). I think the issue would be with the next generation
of Kribs, but with enough ground cover, Kuhlis do become invisible fish
;~). The mixture sounds ok, but someone might have recent first-hand
experience with a particular level of ground cover to share with you.
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[sherlock]

Would I be right in thinking that a pair of kribs would not play well
with loaches? (particularly kuhlis)?
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sophie

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(under construction. ish.)
kribs/loaches

I have been keeping kuhli's,clown loach,botia[two species]and krib's together for years and have never had any problems.My tank has alot of java fern growing on bogwood and is well planted.
The botia and clown loaches will eat krib's eggs and fry if they can so any eggs should be removed before they hatch[the parents should be able to defend them until they do].The most important thing to remember with krib's is that they are territorial and as long as they have space,you'll be fine.The botia,including the clown's can be a bit aggresive over food but it's mostly a bit of pushing and shoving and I have never had an injured fish.Clown loach can grow up to a foot long although they don't usually get that big.If space is a problem then small botia such as botia sidthimunki are great and there are many other suitable species although some grow quite large,so know what you are buying.Kuhli's are a good choice,the secret is to keep quite a few together and give them lots of places to hide,java fern on bogwood is perfect.That way they will feel more secure and you will get to see them more often.

sherlock

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"NetMax" > wrote

The mixture sounds ok, but someone might have recent first-hand
> experience with a particular level of ground cover to share with you.
> --

I have a pair of kribs in a 75gal community tank which includes about 8
kuhlis and has at least 50% plant cover (and a log home for the kribs). No
problem whatsoever. They all get along just fine.

[sophiefishstuff]

In message >, sherlock
> writes
>
>sophiefishstuff Wrote:
>> Would I be right in thinking that a pair of kribs would not play well
>> with loaches? (particularly kuhlis)?
>> --
>> sophie
>>
>> www.freewebs.com/fishstuff
>> (under construction. ish.)
>kribs/loaches
>
>I have been keeping kuhli's,clown loach,botia[two species]and krib's
>together for years and have never had any problems.My tank has alot of
>java fern growing on bogwood and is well planted.
>The botia and clown loaches will eat krib's eggs and fry if they can so
>any eggs should be removed before they hatch[the parents should be able
to defend them until they do].The most important thing to remember with
krib's is that they are territorial and as long as they have
space,you'll be fine.The botia,including the clown's can be a bit
aggresive over food but it's mostly a bit of pushing and shoving and I
have never had an injured fish.Clown loach can grow up to a foot long
although they don't usually get that big.If space is a problem then
small botia such as botia sidthimunki are great and there are many
other suitable species although some grow quite large,so know what you
are buying.Kuhli's are a good choice,the secret is to keep quite a few
together and give them lots of places to hide,java fern on bogwood is
perfect.That way they will feel more secure and you will get to see
them more often.

Firstly, thanks to everyone who replied, I really appreciate it.

I love my kuhlis, I have to say, and the weatherfish in the other tank.
And I do want some more loaches, so I'm very interested in Elaine's
comments about territory size for the kribs - the tank has got a 30 * 15
footprint, so I think that would severely restrict the space available
to the kuhlis, and also mean I couldn't add any other bottom-dwelling
fish.

HOWEVER. there is always the 18-inch tank (that I've promised the other
half that I won't fill up again), which might make a very nice
pair-of-kribs tank once I've finished quarantining new additions. And
once the ENORMOUS dragonfly nymph that I found in it yesterday -
yesterday! has died or emerged...

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