Blue Rams and Kribs OK?

[blank]

Evening all, I'm looking for opinions on whether it would be OK to add a
couple blue rams to my 75gal (50% plants, plenty of driftwood) community
tank? I already have a pair of kribs in there and would like to add rams,
but am wondering whether this will cause problems. My main tank is a very
happy place so I dont want to upset the other 70 or so occupants. (The
others include corys, clown loaches, eels, bettas, a redtailed black shark,
gouramis, zebras, neons, hockeysticks, platies, etc.)

Number one priority is not having fish that bully others--I can't bear
watching that. Thanks for any comments.

[Elaine T]

blank wrote:
> Evening all, I'm looking for opinions on whether it would be OK to add a
> couple blue rams to my 75gal (50% plants, plenty of driftwood) community
> tank? I already have a pair of kribs in there and would like to add rams,
> but am wondering whether this will cause problems. My main tank is a very
> happy place so I dont want to upset the other 70 or so occupants. (The
> others include corys, clown loaches, eels, bettas, a redtailed black shark,
> gouramis, zebras, neons, hockeysticks, platies, etc.)
>
> Number one priority is not having fish that bully others--I can't bear
> watching that. Thanks for any comments.
>
>
Rams are less aggressive than kribs, IME. Like any other cichlid, they
will defend eggs if they decide to breed. A 75 gal has lots of bottom
room since it's wide as well as long. There should be enough space for
both rams and kribs to stake out some space.

I'm actually a bit surprised your redtailed black shark is such a good
community member. Those can get much more aggressive than rams as they
grow.

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[Derek Benson]

On Tue, 3 May 2005 19:30:35 +1000, "blank" > wrote:

>Evening all, I'm looking for opinions on whether it would be OK to add a
>couple blue rams to my 75gal (50% plants, plenty of driftwood) community
>tank? I already have a pair of kribs in there and would like to add rams,
>but am wondering whether this will cause problems. My main tank is a very
>happy place so I dont want to upset the other 70 or so occupants. (The
>others include corys, clown loaches, eels, bettas, a redtailed black shark,
>gouramis, zebras, neons, hockeysticks, platies, etc.)
>
>Number one priority is not having fish that bully others--I can't bear
>watching that. Thanks for any comments.
>
Kribs are a tougher fish than Rams and in a smaller environment would
certainly bully them around IMO. Almost all cichlids see other
cichlids as competitors, moreso than they consider other fish families
to be competitors. But your tank is large enough with enough shelter
that I think they will be fine; I wouldn't hesitate to put the Rams in
there if it were my tank. The first days you may see the Kribs chasing
the Rams when they see them, but the Rams will find some place on the
other side of the tank and keep out of the way. I've never had Kribs
who have gone out of their way to bully other fish, like searching
through the 75 gallons looking for the other fish intentionally, to
chase them.

Otherwise, the addition of Rams will not upset any of your other fish.

-Derek

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"sherlock" > wrote in message

> I also would be more concerned about the Redtailed black shark than the
Kribs. The Krib's have a large enough tank and the Ram's will learn to
keep
their distance. How big is the Redtailed shark?,if it's small then it
will almost
certainly get more aggressive,if it's large and is not aggressive then
you might have the only one that isn't.

OK, thanks to everyone who replied. Seems I have no need to worry.

The redtail shark is about 5 inches. He's a nice fellow. After meals he
chases the barbs for a while, but has never done any harm. And anyway, the
barbs tease him, so its not surprising he responds. I am aware that he may
become a problem as he grows, but so far all is well.

[sophiefishstuff]

In message >, sherlock
> writes
>
>Elaine T Wrote:
>> blank wrote:-
>> Evening all, I'm looking for opinions on whether it would be OK to
>>> add a
>> couple blue rams to my 75gal (50% plants, plenty of driftwood)
>>> community
>> tank? I already have a pair of kribs in there and would like to add
>>> rams,
>> but am wondering whether this will cause problems. My main tank is a
>>> very
>> happy place so I dont want to upset the other 70 or so occupants.
>>> (The
>> others include corys, clown loaches, eels, bettas, a redtailed black
>>> shark,
>> gouramis, zebras, neons, hockeysticks, platies, etc.)
>>
>> Number one priority is not having fish that bully others--I can't
>>> bear
>> watching that. Thanks for any comments.
>>
>> -
>> Rams are less aggressive than kribs, IME. Like any other cichlid,
>>> they
>> will defend eggs if they decide to breed. A 75 gal has lots of bottom
>> room since it's wide as well as long. There should be enough space
>>> for
>> both rams and kribs to stake out some space.
>>
>> I'm actually a bit surprised your redtailed black shark is such a good
>> community member. Those can get much more aggressive than rams as
>>> they
>> grow.
>>
>> --
>> Elaine T __
>> http://eethomp.com/fish.html '__
>> rec.aquaria.* FAQ http://faq.thekrib.com
>>
>>
>> I also would be more concerned about the Redtailed black shark than
>>the
>>> Kribs.
>> The Krib's have a large enough tank and the Ram's will learn to keep
>>> their distance.
>> How big is the Redtailed shark?,if it's small then it will almost
>>> certainly get more aggressive,if it's large and is not aggressive
>>then
>>> you might have the only one that isn't.
>Krib's/Ram's
>Sherlock

eh?
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sophie

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