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George
May 8th 05, 07:14 AM
Hi boys and girls. I thought I would update you on the developments since my
last post. Some of you may recall my post of 4/25, about finding a goldfish in
my pond that appeared to be about 3-4 months old. Well, I guess it is still in
there, although I haven't seen it in a couple of days (there are lots of places
for a small black fish to hide in the pond). I'm still at a loss as to where he
come from since if my fish spawned him, they would have had to spawn him in the
dead of winter (that would be below frezing in these parts, so what are the
chances they would have spawned in that weather). A midget from last year? Not
likely because it still has its baby black. I have yet to see any others.

On another, related note, it is Kentucky Derby day (or was - its' after
mid-night here) here in, where else, 'Derby City' (Louisville's nickname).
Early this morning at about 6:30 A.M. I got up to do some early chores to get
ready for the day's festivities, and while getting a glass of water, I looked
out my kitchen window and noticed that all of the fish were swimming around in a
frenzy, even the Koi. I went out to check on them, and yes, they are spawning
(I don't think the Koi were actually spawning, just curious). The water is all
frothy, like last year. I have at least five females who are all battered one
the side from the efforts (just like my big female was last year). I found one
this afternoon hiding behind the filter beneath the waterfall (it was one of my
two year old goldfish - one of the 'feeders' I bought originally to feed to my
catfish, who apparently wasn't interested at the time). This is the same place
my big female spawned last year to eventually produce the 8 yearlings I have now
(who are three times the size of this black mystery newbie, are a multitude of
colors, and very nice). They appear to like this location as it is sheltered,
there are cattails nearby, and it is a hard place to get in and out of. The
catfish can't touch them there. One thing seems certain, I'm going to have a
heck of a lot of fry this year.

On another note, when I was in college years ago, my wife and I (we were dating
at the time) used to go out to a Pizza joint on the other side of town that had
great live music. The name of the place was Jockamos. We used to go there
every weekend. It was a local college hangout (alas, they went belly up - too
much 'free beer', I suppose). The food was lousy, but the beer and song was
wonderful. Well, what does this have to do with anything? Well, the horse that
won the Derby, a 50-1 nag, was names Giacomo (pronounced, Jockamo). Dabnabbit!
What was I thinking? To think what I would have made had I bet on this three
year old diamond-in-the-rough.

Enjoy the spring. It won't last much longer.

Cracklin'
May 8th 05, 07:32 AM
"George" > wrote in message
news:y7ife.64617$WI3.27271@attbi_s71...
> Hi boys and girls. I thought I would update you on the developments since
my
> last post. Some of you may recall my post of 4/25, about finding a
goldfish in
> my pond that appeared to be about 3-4 months old. Well, I guess it is
still in
> there, although I haven't seen it in a couple of days (there are lots of
places
> for a small black fish to hide in the pond). I'm still at a loss as to
where he
> come from since if my fish spawned him, they would have had to spawn him
in the
> dead of winter (that would be below frezing in these parts, so what are
the
> chances they would have spawned in that weather). A midget from last
year? Not
> likely because it still has its baby black. I have yet to see any others.

## A few of mine from last summer are still dark. Some are also small,
probably from the last spawning. Also, eggs may have been carried in on
something. It may not even be a goldfish. One summer my neighbor had
sunfish in his stock pond. No one knew where they came from.....

> On another, related note, it is Kentucky Derby day (or was - its' after
> mid-night here) here in, where else, 'Derby City' (Louisville's
nickname).
> Early this morning at about 6:30 A.M. I got up to do some early chores to
get
> ready for the day's festivities, and while getting a glass of water, I
looked
> out my kitchen window and noticed that all of the fish were swimming
around in a
> frenzy, even the Koi. I went out to check on them, and yes, they are
spawning
> (I don't think the Koi were actually spawning, just curious). The water
is all
> frothy, like last year.

## Sounds like spawning to me.

I have at least five females who are all battered one
> the side from the efforts (just like my big female was last year). I
found one
> this afternoon hiding behind the filter beneath the waterfall (it was one
of my
> two year old goldfish - one of the 'feeders' I bought originally to feed
to my
> catfish, who apparently wasn't interested at the time). This is the same
place
> my big female spawned last year to eventually produce the 8 yearlings I
have now
> (who are three times the size of this black mystery newbie, are a
multitude of
> colors, and very nice). They appear to like this location as it is
sheltered,
> there are cattails nearby, and it is a hard place to get in and out of.
The
> catfish can't touch them there. One thing seems certain, I'm going to
have a
> heck of a lot of fry this year.

## And a self-supporting hobby! :-)))

> On another note, when I was in college years ago, my wife and I (we were
dating
> at the time) used to go out to a Pizza joint on the other side of town
that had
> great live music. The name of the place was Jockamos. We used to go
there
> every weekend. It was a local college hangout (alas, they went belly up -
too
> much 'free beer', I suppose). The food was lousy, but the beer and song
was
> wonderful. Well, what does this have to do with anything? Well, the
horse that
> won the Derby, a 50-1 nag, was names Giacomo (pronounced, Jockamo).
Dabnabbit!
> What was I thinking? To think what I would have made had I bet on this
three
> year old diamond-in-the-rough.
>
> Enjoy the spring. It won't last much longer.
--
McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
EVERYONE: "Please check people's
headers for forgeries before flushing." :-)
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Reel McKoi
May 8th 05, 07:35 AM
"George" > wrote in message
news:y7ife.64617$WI3.27271@attbi_s71...
> Hi boys and girls. I thought I would update you on the developments since
my
> last post. Some of you may recall my post of 4/25, about finding a
goldfish in
> my pond that appeared to be about 3-4 months old. Well, I guess it is
still in
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Sorry forgot to change servers.
Aioe has missed some messages so I switched to S-S for that one!
--
McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
EVERYONE: "Please check people's headers for forgeries
before flushing." :-)
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Reel McKoi
May 8th 05, 07:39 AM
"George" > wrote in message
news:y7ife.64617$WI3.27271@attbi_s71...
> Hi boys and girls. I thought I would update you on the developments since
my
> last post. Some of you may recall my post of 4/25, about finding a
goldfish in
> my pond that appeared to be about 3-4 months old. Well, I guess it is
still in
> there, although I haven't seen it in a couple of days (there are lots of
places
> for a small black fish to hide in the pond). I'm still at a loss as to
where he
> come from since if my fish spawned him, they would have had to spawn him
in the
> dead of winter (that would be below frezing in these parts, so what are
the
> chances they would have spawned in that weather). A midget from last
year? Not
> likely because it still has its baby black. I have yet to see any others.

## A few of mine from last summer are still dark. Some are also small,
probably from the last spawning. Also, eggs may have been carried in on
something. It may not even be a goldfish. One summer my neighbor had
sunfish in his stock pond. No one knew where they came from.....

> On another, related note, it is Kentucky Derby day (or was - its' after
> mid-night here) here in, where else, 'Derby City' (Louisville's
nickname).
> Early this morning at about 6:30 A.M. I got up to do some early chores to
get
> ready for the day's festivities, and while getting a glass of water, I
looked
> out my kitchen window and noticed that all of the fish were swimming
around in a
> frenzy, even the Koi. I went out to check on them, and yes, they are
spawning
> (I don't think the Koi were actually spawning, just curious). The water
is all
> frothy, like last year.

## Sounds like spawning to me.

I have at least five females who are all battered one
> the side from the efforts (just like my big female was last year). I
found one
> this afternoon hiding behind the filter beneath the waterfall (it was one
of my
> two year old goldfish - one of the 'feeders' I bought originally to feed
to my
> catfish, who apparently wasn't interested at the time). This is the same
place
> my big female spawned last year to eventually produce the 8 yearlings I
have now
> (who are three times the size of this black mystery newbie, are a
multitude of
> colors, and very nice). They appear to like this location as it is
sheltered,
> there are cattails nearby, and it is a hard place to get in and out of.
The
> catfish can't touch them there. One thing seems certain, I'm going to
have a
> heck of a lot of fry this year.

## And a self-supporting hobby! :-)))

> On another note, when I was in college years ago, my wife and I (we were
dating
> at the time) used to go out to a Pizza joint on the other side of town
that had
> great live music. The name of the place was Jockamos. We used to go
there
> every weekend. It was a local college hangout (alas, they went belly up -
too
> much 'free beer', I suppose). The food was lousy, but the beer and song
was
> wonderful. Well, what does this have to do with anything? Well, the
horse that
> won the Derby, a 50-1 nag, was names Giacomo (pronounced, Jockamo).
Dabnabbit!
> What was I thinking? To think what I would have made had I bet on this
three
> year old diamond-in-the-rough.
>
> Enjoy the spring. It won't last much longer.
--
McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
EVERYONE: "Please check people's
headers for forgeries before flushing." :-)
~~~ }<((((o> ~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~ }<(((((o>

Bill Stock
May 8th 05, 06:35 PM
"George" > wrote in message
news:y7ife.64617$WI3.27271@attbi_s71...
> Hi boys and girls. I thought I would update you on the developments since
> my last post. Some of you may recall my post of 4/25, about finding a
> goldfish in my pond that appeared to be about 3-4 months old. Well, I
> guess it is still in there, although I haven't seen it in a couple of days
> (there are lots of places for a small black fish to hide in the pond). I'm
> still at a loss as to where he come from since if my fish spawned him,
> they would have had to spawn him in the dead of winter (that would be
> below frezing in these parts, so what are the chances they would have
> spawned in that weather). A midget from last year? Not likely because it
> still has its baby black. I have yet to see any others.
>
> On another, related note, it is Kentucky Derby day (or was - its' after
> mid-night here) here in, where else, 'Derby City' (Louisville's
> nickname). Early this morning at about 6:30 A.M. I got up to do some early
> chores to get ready for the day's festivities, and while getting a glass
> of water, I looked out my kitchen window and noticed that all of the fish
> were swimming around in a frenzy, even the Koi. I went out to check on
> them, and yes, they are spawning (I don't think the Koi were actually
> spawning, just curious). The water is all frothy, like last year. I have
> at least five females who are all battered one the side from the efforts
> (just like my big female was last year). I found one this afternoon
> hiding behind the filter beneath the waterfall (it was one of my two year
> old goldfish - one of the 'feeders' I bought originally to feed to my
> catfish, who apparently wasn't interested at the time). This is the same
> place my big female spawned last year to eventually produce the 8
> yearlings I have now (who are three times the size of this black mystery
> newbie, are a multitude of colors, and very nice). They appear to like
> this location as it is sheltered, there are cattails nearby, and it is a
> hard place to get in and out of. The catfish can't touch them there. One
> thing seems certain, I'm going to have a heck of a lot of fry this year.

My GF are also spawning today. Four or five suitors are pestering one larger
female. They are also cavorting behind the waterfall, which just got turned
on yesterday. I didn't have any fry survive last year, so they'll likely all
become fish food again this year.



> On another note, when I was in college years ago, my wife and I (we were
> dating at the time) used to go out to a Pizza joint on the other side of
> town that had great live music. The name of the place was Jockamos. We
> used to go there every weekend. It was a local college hangout (alas, they
> went belly up - too much 'free beer', I suppose). The food was lousy, but
> the beer and song was wonderful. Well, what does this have to do with
> anything? Well, the horse that won the Derby, a 50-1 nag, was names
> Giacomo (pronounced, Jockamo). Dabnabbit! What was I thinking? To think
> what I would have made had I bet on this three year old
> diamond-in-the-rough.
>
> Enjoy the spring. It won't last much longer.
>

Reel McKoi
May 8th 05, 08:09 PM
"Bill Stock" > wrote in message
...
> My GF are also spawning today. Four or five suitors are pestering one
larger
> female. They are also cavorting behind the waterfall, which just got
turned
> on yesterday. I didn't have any fry survive last year, so they'll likely
all
> become fish food again this year.
======================
If you want some to survive add "bushy" pond plants. Hornwart and parrots
feather are cheap and work well. Put them where the current is the gentlest
or there is no current at all.
--
McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
EVERYONE: "To persevere in one's duty and
be silent, is the best answer to calumny."
"Please check people's headers for forgeries
before flushing." :-)
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