The Question is--

[Bette E]

I have asked (and had answered) many questions regarding my pond, on
this wonderful site---- over the last 3 years.

I lurk here at least twice a week in order to see the latest in pond &
fish/ tips and help. Now I'm sick at heart, at what I see.
I have a question, that I thought I would never have to ask of anyone
here:

After having been given a chance to end this mess, how is it that any
caring, otherwise responsible individual, could continue to let this
happen to this site, let alone to the many nice people who had become
friends?

Bette (ponder in Ohio)

[Reel McKoi]

"Bette E" > wrote in message
...
>
> After having been given a chance to end this mess,

* Unfortunately if you read any of the posts you would see there is no way
to end this vindictive troll's mess. The individual who is doing this is
posting several ways, changing his name (sock-puppets) almost daily and he
also posts anonymously.

how is it that any
> caring, otherwise responsible individual, could continue to let this
> happen to this site, let alone to the many nice people who had become
> friends?

* The only individual who can stop him is his ISP who does not post here.
How can anyone else stop him? Have you complained to his ISP, to Google, to
his anonymous remailer service? Please include all headers if you do. Or -
you can use your killfile or ignore all his threads and cross-posted garbage
like everyone else is doing.

> Bette (ponder in Ohio)
--
McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
EVERYONE: "Please check people's headers for forgeries
before flushing." :-)
~~~ }<((((o> ~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~ }<(((((o>

[CanadianCowboy]

With a world population well over 6.5 Billion ..... you are bound to
have a few "NUT JOBS" !!!

Bette E wrote:
> I have asked (and had answered) many questions regarding my pond, on
> this wonderful site---- over the last 3 years.
>
> I lurk here at least twice a week in order to see the latest in pond &
> fish/ tips and help. Now I'm sick at heart, at what I see.
> I have a question, that I thought I would never have to ask of anyone
> here:
>
> After having been given a chance to end this mess, how is it that any
> caring, otherwise responsible individual, could continue to let this
> happen to this site, let alone to the many nice people who had become
> friends?
>
> Bette (ponder in Ohio)
>

[Snooze]

"Bette E" > wrote in message
...
>
> After having been given a chance to end this mess, how is it that any
> caring, otherwise responsible individual, could continue to let this
> happen to this site, let alone to the many nice people who had become
> friends?

Frankly the problem is that rec.ponds is caught the crossfire in a war
between jabriol and carol aka "reel mckoi"
I suspect that most of us really couldn't careless about Carol and her war
with the jehovah witness.

Unfortunately there isn't a easy way to remove one or both parties, they
both use anonymous relays, so with out the assistance of the remailer it's
difficult if not impossible to complain to their ISP about their abuse. In
either case isps are fairly reluctant to can accounts for being a putz on
usenet.


-S

[Lt. Kizhe Catson]

Snooze wrote:
> "Bette E" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>After having been given a chance to end this mess, how is it that any
>>caring, otherwise responsible individual, could continue to let this
>>happen to this site, let alone to the many nice people who had become
>>friends?
>
>
> Frankly the problem is that rec.ponds is caught the crossfire in a war
> between jabriol and carol aka "reel mckoi"

At the risk of injecting facts into the discussion, my observation is
that Carol has been fairly consistent in removing rec.ponds from the
x-posts. It is largely Jabriol (and a few people from other groups,
either through malice or carelessness) who are leaving it or adding it
back in (and of course, quite a few of the posts coming from "Carol" are
fairly obvious forgeries, presumably by Jabby). IOW, the "cross-fire"
is coming mostly from one direction.

> I suspect that most of us really couldn't careless about Carol and her war
> with the jehovah witness.

No, we don't. But the situation is not helped when rec.ponders start
blaming the wrong party.

Probably the best thing at this point is for *everyone* (yes, that
includes me, and *particularly* includes Carol) is to firmly ignore ALL
Jab-inspired posts and threads for at least two weeks. They're not hard
to recognize; thus they're not hard to ignore.

I am starting NOW.

> Unfortunately there isn't a easy way to remove one or both parties, they
> both use anonymous relays, so with out the assistance of the remailer it's
> difficult if not impossible to complain to their ISP about their abuse. In
> either case isps are fairly reluctant to can accounts for being a putz on
> usenet.

-- Kizhe

[cat daddy]

"Lt. Kizhe Catson" > wrote in message
...
> Snooze wrote:
> > "Bette E" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> >>After having been given a chance to end this mess, how is it that any
> >>caring, otherwise responsible individual, could continue to let this
> >>happen to this site, let alone to the many nice people who had become
> >>friends?
> >
> >
> > Frankly the problem is that rec.ponds is caught the crossfire in a war
> > between jabriol and carol aka "reel mckoi"
>
> At the risk of injecting facts into the discussion, my observation is
> that Carol has been fairly consistent in removing rec.ponds from the
> x-posts. It is largely Jabriol (and a few people from other groups,
> either through malice or carelessness) who are leaving it or adding it
> back in (and of course, quite a few of the posts coming from "Carol" are
> fairly obvious forgeries, presumably by Jabby). IOW, the "cross-fire"
> is coming mostly from one direction.

I suspect you haven't visited the other group(s) where the "cross-fire"
is the mirror reverse then. By her own admission, Carol has been attacking
them for nine years. Observing only the backlash here is giving you an
incomplete perspective. And her use of remailers doesn't spare rec.ponds
either. I doubt there is a third party parroting Carol's diatribes.

> > I suspect that most of us really couldn't careless about Carol and her
war
> > with the jehovah witness.
>
> No, we don't. But the situation is not helped when rec.ponders start
> blaming the wrong party.

See above. Nine years versus a few months.

> Probably the best thing at this point is for *everyone* (yes, that
> includes me, and *particularly* includes Carol) is to firmly ignore ALL
> Jab-inspired posts and threads for at least two weeks. They're not hard
> to recognize; thus they're not hard to ignore.
>
> I am starting NOW.
>
> > Unfortunately there isn't a easy way to remove one or both parties, they
> > both use anonymous relays, so with out the assistance of the remailer
it's
> > difficult if not impossible to complain to their ISP about their abuse.
In
> > either case isps are fairly reluctant to can accounts for being a putz
on
> > usenet.
>
> -- Kizhe
>

[Reel McKoi]

"cat daddy" > wrote in message
...
> I suspect you haven't visited the other group(s) where the "cross-fire"
> is the mirror reverse then. By her own admission, Carol has been attacking
> them for nine years.
====================
ATTACKING them? Please provide proof I claimed I've been *ATTACKING* them.
Are you another TROLL looking to keep these problems going here? You sure
seem to be, since you post nothing about fish or ponds but seem to focus
only on *me* for some reason. Learn to use a killfile like everyone else.
--
McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
"Please check people's headers for forgeries
before flushing." :-)
~~~ }<((((o> ~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~ }<(((((o>

[~Roy~]

Everyone is a troll that dares to dissa gree with this crackpot
lunatic old lady of many names....She went to the barn, stepped in
some crap and never wiped her feet when she came back in the
house.........or in other words she stirred up the folks in the other
forums and brought them here all due to her attacks........and
accusations she makes......she is the ever so righteous individual
that has nbever done wrong, or made problems and is just to darned
stupid to realize most folks have her figured out already as the
abscess that caused a festering wound in many
newsgroups.......Wherever she treads she she also brings in all the
baggage of many fialed marriages and relationships, so it seems she is
unhappy that others with good relationships can get along, where she
just can't see the light at the end of the tunnel fo rher narrowminded
tunnel vision that only she is right and everyone else is wrong!



On Thu, 12 May 2005 17:11:21 -0500, "Reel McKoi"
> wrote:

>===<>
>===<>"cat daddy" > wrote in message
...
>===<>> I suspect you haven't visited the other group(s) where the "cross-fire"
>===<>> is the mirror reverse then. By her own admission, Carol has been attacking
>===<>> them for nine years.
>===<>====================
>===<>ATTACKING them? Please provide proof I claimed I've been *ATTACKING* them.
>===<>Are you another TROLL looking to keep these problems going here? You sure
>===<>seem to be, since you post nothing about fish or ponds but seem to focus
>===<>only on *me* for some reason. Learn to use a killfile like everyone else.


==============================================
Put some color in your cheeks...garden naked!

~~~~ }<((((o> ~~~~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~~~~~ }<(((((o>

[Snooze]

"Lt. Kizhe Catson" > wrote in message
...
> Snooze wrote:
>> Frankly the problem is that rec.ponds is caught the crossfire in a war
>> between jabriol and carol aka "reel mckoi"
>
> At the risk of injecting facts into the discussion, my observation is that
> Carol has been fairly consistent in removing rec.ponds from the x-posts.
> It is largely Jabriol (and a few people from other groups, either through
> malice or carelessness) who are leaving it or adding it back in (and of
> course, quite a few of the posts coming from "Carol" are fairly obvious
> forgeries, presumably by Jabby). IOW, the "cross-fire" is coming mostly
> from one direction.
>

It's not like jabriol and his buddies came into this channel and picked some
random person to harass. Obviously this is spill over from another newsgroup
or forum. Carol is welcome and encouraged to remove rec.ponds from any
postings made here. Whatever happened in that other newsgroup, who did what
to whom, who started it, etc I don't care.

Unfortunately since the war came to this newsgroup it affects us now too.
Pistols at 10 paces, only way I know to solve it, other then asking Carol to
stop posting to this newsgroup, at least until the war goes somewhere else.

-S

[PonderKoi]

I have read all of the evidence. I am convinced that Carol has been
waging a idiotic war against JW's. And it has followed her to Rec.Ponds.

I declare a vote of no confidence against her, and further more, no list
remember should reply to any of her post on this news group until the
following conditions are met:

Either she stops her attacks on JW's in the other NG. And retract her
statement that Jabriol is a fornicating incestuous child molester that
raped his daughter.

Or that she leaves Rec.ponds and never return, ever.
She must also apologize to all the news groups she has been attacking,
and must seek professional help.

If she does not I envision rec.ponds a destroyed and useless group.
While filter may protect us and keep us in communications with regulars,
No new blood will come here. More so after downloading the headers and
reading the subject lines.

The fish now swims in Carol's Pond. If Carol is in agreement, Roy knows
exactly the right question to ask Jabriol, and he will be gone. After
all Jabriol claims to be a JW. :-)


jabriol wrote:
> Reel McKoi wrote:
>
>>"cat daddy" > wrote in message
...
>>
>>> I suspect you haven't visited the other group(s) where the
>
> "cross-fire"
>
>>>is the mirror reverse then. By her own admission, Carol has been
>
> attacking
>
>>>them for nine years.
>>
>>====================
>>ATTACKING them? Please provide proof I claimed I've been *ATTACKING*
>
> them.
>
> most of her attacks are in her sig file. Look at the vocabulary and the
> way she express herself, it more than freedom of speech, it hate
> speech.
>
> some of these were writen during her nym shifting days...
> let me know if you want a whole 10 year account of her activities..
> while on rec.ponds she played a sweeted little ole lady, she destroyed
> ARJW.
>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/9j5jk
>
> http://tinyurl.com/7mne6'
>
> http://tinyurl.com/7z4wb
> http://tinyurl.com/e2b76
> http://tinyurl.com/8sf8d
>
>
>
>
>
> -->
>

[Reel McKoi]

"Snooze" > wrote in message
m...
> It's not like jabriol and his buddies came into this channel and picked
some
> random person to harass. Obviously this is spill over from another
newsgroup
> or forum.

# I am not responsible for the abusive actions of others, nor are you. :-)

Carol is welcome and encouraged to remove rec.ponds from any
> postings made here.

# How can I remove postings made by others to this NG? Only they can do
that.

Whatever happened in that other newsgroup, who did what
> to whom, who started it, etc I don't care.

# Nor do I. They should not have carried it HERE as I'm sure you will
agree. What does it have to so with ponds? Nothing!

> Unfortunately since the war came to this newsgroup it affects us now too.
> Pistols at 10 paces, only way I know to solve it, other then asking Carol
to
> stop posting to this newsgroup, at least until the war goes somewhere
else.

# Why not ask the ABUSER Jabriol and several other troll-like people on this
NG to stop posting here until it goes away? Why make me responsible for the
actions of others? If Jabriol/Iksgorkon/Nomen kills someone in his
frustration and frenzy for revenge is that MY FAULT as well?
--
McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
EVERYONE: "Please check people's headers for forgeries
before flushing." :-)
~~~ }<((((o> ~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~ }<(((((o>

[cat daddy]

"~Roy~" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Everyone is a troll that dares to dissa gree with this crackpot
> lunatic old lady of many names....She went to the barn, stepped in
> some crap and never wiped her feet when she came back in the
> house.........or in other words she stirred up the folks in the other
> forums and brought them here all due to her attacks........and
> accusations she makes......she is the ever so righteous individual
> that has nbever done wrong, or made problems and is just to darned
> stupid to realize most folks have her figured out already as the
> abscess that caused a festering wound in many
> newsgroups.......Wherever she treads she she also brings in all the
> baggage of many fialed marriages and relationships, so it seems she is
> unhappy that others with good relationships can get along, where she
> just can't see the light at the end of the tunnel fo rher narrowminded
> tunnel vision that only she is right and everyone else is wrong!

Curious that Carol never replies to the remailer forgeries, that just
happen to pop in to mimic her viewpoint, with the same enthusiasm she has to
clean up the group of the remailers that are forging her. Quite odd.

> On Thu, 12 May 2005 17:11:21 -0500, "Reel McKoi"
> > wrote:
>
> >===<>
> >===<>"cat daddy" > wrote in message
> ...
> >===<>> I suspect you haven't visited the other group(s) where the
"cross-fire"
> >===<>> is the mirror reverse then. By her own admission, Carol has been
attacking
> >===<>> them for nine years.
> >===<>====================
> >===<>ATTACKING them? Please provide proof I claimed I've been
*ATTACKING* them.
> >===<>Are you another TROLL looking to keep these problems going here?
You sure
> >===<>seem to be, since you post nothing about fish or ponds but seem to
focus
> >===<>only on *me* for some reason. Learn to use a killfile like everyone
else.

[Reel McKoi]

"Maxx Pollare" > wrote in message
...
> The voice of "Reel McKoi" drifted in on the cyber-winds,
> from the sea of virtual chaos...

> > Why not ask the ABUSER Jabriol and several other troll-like
> > people on this NG to stop posting here until it goes away?
> > Why make me responsible for the actions of others?
> > If Jabriol/Iksgorkon/Nomen kills someone in his frustration
> > and frenzy for revenge is that MY FAULT as well?
>
> Because it's easier to blame the victim. }:8P

# And one woman is easier to verbally abuse and intimidate than several
men..... or so the believe.

> I don't know what caused *all this* in the first place either, and
> frankly I don't care ethier, but that last thing you should have to
> do is leave because of it.

# Oh, I'm not leaving, that's for sure. No one can dictate who stays or
leaves unmoderated NGs.

From what I've seen you've been a model
> poster in this group for at least the last 180+ days I checked.
>
> Doen't that count for somthing?

# Not with some of the posters on this NG. They would love to get me
involved in a flame-war *here* on rec.ponds over another NG that doesn't
even concern them, as they do not read/post there and never did.
They see Jab's behavior quite ok (flooding, off-topic posts, threats,
remailers, forged headers ect) and encourage him, but swamped my old ISP
with complaints when I was changing ISPs/NSPs and changed my NYM. One had
the gall to complain about my nym changes on *ANOTHER NG* he never even
posted on!!!! That's what some of the people I'm dealing with here on
rec.ponds are like.........
--
McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
EVERYONE: "Please check people's headers for forgeries
before flushing." :-)
~~~ }<((((o> ~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~ }<(((((o>

[Reel McKoi]

"Maxx Pollare" > wrote in message
...
> The voice of "Snooze" drifted in on the cyber-winds,
> from the sea of virtual chaos...
>
> > Unfortunately since the war came to this newsgroup it affects us
> > now too. Pistols at 10 paces, only way I know to solve it, other
> > then asking Carol to stop posting to this newsgroup, at least
> > until the war goes somewhere else.
>
>
> And you think that will make the "bad man" go away? };8)
==============================
Notice it doesn't occur to Snooze to ask the "bad man" and his side-kicks to
go away.....
--
McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
EVERYONE: "Please check people's headers for forgeries
before flushing." :-)
~~~ }<((((o> ~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~ }<(((((o>

[Derek Broughton]

PonderKoi wrote:

> I have read all of the evidence. I am convinced that Carol has been
> waging a idiotic war against JW's. And it has followed her to Rec.Ponds.

Obviously not. THis group doesn't need you either.

<plonk>
--
derek

[cat daddy]

"Maxx Pollare" > wrote in message
...
> The voice of "Reel McKoi" drifted in on the cyber-winds,
> from the sea of virtual chaos...
>
> >> Carol is welcome and encouraged to remove rec.ponds from any
> >> postings made here.
> >
> > How can I remove postings made by others to this NG?
> > Only they can do that.
>
> He's refurring to cross-posts...
>
> > Why not ask the ABUSER Jabriol and several other troll-like
> > people on this NG to stop posting here until it goes away?
> > Why make me responsible for the actions of others?
> > If Jabriol/Iksgorkon/Nomen kills someone in his frustration
> > and frenzy for revenge is that MY FAULT as well?
>
> Because it's easier to blame the victim. }:8P

The only real victim here is the truth.

> I don't know what caused *all this* in the first place either, and
> frankly I don't care ethier, but that last thing you should have to
> do is leave because of it. From what I've seen you've been a model
> poster in this group for at least the last 180+ days I checked.
>
> Doen't that count for somthing?

I suppose, if you don't count her crossposted remailer attacks. And
posting under her "Reel McKoi" alias in the JW group, mentioning rec.ponds,
and disparaging posters here is not really model behaviour, is it? Despite
her victimization act, that alone might attract the less savoury elements of
Usenet here.

[Snooze]

"Reel McKoi" > wrote in message
...
> "Maxx Pollare" > wrote in message
> ...
>> The voice of "Snooze" drifted in on the cyber-winds,
>> from the sea of virtual chaos...
>>
>>
>> And you think that will make the "bad man" go away? };8)
> ==============================
> Notice it doesn't occur to Snooze to ask the "bad man" and his side-kicks
> to
> go away.....

Asking Jabriol to go away would be a waste of effort, because he's not going
to, until he's sufficiently bored of it.Since you two claim to have been
going at it for 9 years, i don't think either of you two are going to get
bored anytime soon.

What option do you suggest that doesn't involve asking you to go away and
take your stalkers with you?
Add each new identity they come up with to the killfile?

-S

[Derek Broughton]

Snooze wrote:

> "Reel McKoi" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Notice it doesn't occur to Snooze to ask the "bad man" and his side-kicks
>> to go away.....
>
> Asking Jabriol to go away would be a waste of effort, because he's not
> going to, until he's sufficiently bored of it.Since you two claim to have
> been going at it for 9 years, i don't think either of you two are going to
> get bored anytime soon.
>
> What option do you suggest that doesn't involve asking you to go away and
> take your stalkers with you?
> Add each new identity they come up with to the killfile?

That's the _only_ real option.

Killing anything that's cross-posted to rec.ponds and any other groups than
misc.rural (sometimes cross-posted re: farm ponds) and *.garden* (I'm
guessing there are both alt. and rec. gardening groups) is effective.
Unfortunately, not many news readers can do that.

Asking Carol to leave is not only repugnant, when she's done nothing here to
deserve it (and her behavior anywhere else is irrelevant - where will you
stop? I upset a co-worker a couple of weeks ago - should I be banned, too?)
but it's impossible. If you can't get people who know they're being jerks
to leave us alone, how do you think you can get someone who hasn't done
anything here to leave?

otoh, Carol, if you stopped responding to Snooze & Jan & Anne & anybody else
who's calling on you to leave, they _would_ go away (at least, they'd stop
thinking about you).
--
derek

[Reel McKoi]

"Snooze" > wrote in message
...
> "Reel McKoi" > wrote in message
> ...
> > "Maxx Pollare" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> The voice of "Snooze" drifted in on the cyber-winds,
> >> from the sea of virtual chaos...
> >>
> >>
> >> And you think that will make the "bad man" go away? };8)
> > ==============================
> > Notice it doesn't occur to Snooze to ask the "bad man" and his
side-kicks
> > to
> > go away.....
>
> Asking Jabriol to go away would be a waste of effort, because he's not
going
> to, until he's sufficiently bored of it.Since you two claim to have been
> going at it for 9 years, i don't think either of you two are going to get
> bored anytime soon.

$$ I didn't BRING Jabriol and all his sock-puppets and remailers to this
NG - HE followed me here, in case you didn't notice.

> What option do you suggest that doesn't involve asking you to go away and
> take your stalkers with you?

$$ Why should I go away because YOU can't deal with a known sociopathic
troll?

> Add each new identity they come up with to the killfile?

$$ That's what most people are doing on this NG. It that too hard for you
to manage? A click or two and the troll is gone. :-) If someone is too
sensitive and can't deal with trolls maybe *they* should go away. I mean
that in all sincerity. No one held a knife to his throat and forced him
here.
--
McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
EVERYONE: "Please check people's headers for forgeries
before flushing." :-)
~~~ }<((((o> ~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~ }<(((((o>

[Reel McKoi]

"Derek Broughton" > wrote in message
...
>
> otoh, Carol, if you stopped responding to Snooze & Jan & Anne & anybody
else
> who's calling on you to leave, they _would_ go away (at least, they'd stop
> thinking about you).
> --
> derek
=================
Excellent advice. :-) I'll ignore them all.....
--
McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
EVERYONE: "Please check people's headers for forgeries
before flushing." :-)
~~~ }<((((o> ~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~ }<(((((o>

[Gantz]

Derek Broughton wrote:
> Snooze wrote:
> Asking Carol to leave is not only repugnant, when she's done nothing
here to
> deserve it.

I agree. Meagan law is stupid as well. If the guy who lives in front of
my house is a child molester, and I have children, why should I care
but his behaviour elsewhere?

You are absolutley right.

> otoh, Carol, if you stopped responding to Snooze & Jan & Anne &
anybody else
> who's calling on you to leave, they _would_ go away (at least, they'd
stop
> thinking about you).
> --
> derek

Not going to happen. Carol need the attention. See how she parasite on
to threads, in a "me too" fashion? In fact, she will now spit on your
face as well for telling her not to respond to her opposers.

And watch how she will call me another Jabriol Sock puppet.

This is not going to end to the right people do the right thing.

[Gantz]

Reel McKoi wrote:
> =================
> Excellent advice. :-) I'll ignore them all.....

Yeah right, Fred Hall told you to kill file Jabriol, and you did not.
Robb told you to tone it down. You did not. You can't follow
instructions. You brain is so dysfunctional, you would not know how to
follow instructions.

That why your first husband whomp your head around like a stand-up bozo
the clown punching bag, your face was so swollen, empty toilet paper
roll cartons had to be use to insert in your face to assist your
breathing. If you only made him lunch the way he asked for it, without
the wise crack remarks, you would still be living in Queens and not
some backwater state raising useless fish in your yard.

Learn to follow instructions, and keep your trap shut.

[~Roy~]

On 13 May 2005 11:47:56 -0700, "Gantz" > wrote:

>===<>
>===<>Reel McKoi wrote:
>===<>> =================
>===<>> Excellent advice. :-) I'll ignore them all.....
>===<>
>===<>Yeah right, Fred Hall told you to kill file Jabriol, and you did not.
>===<>Robb told you to tone it down. You did not. You can't follow
>===<>instructions. You brain is so dysfunctional, you would not know how to
>===<>follow instructions.
>===<>
>===<>That why your first husband whomp your head around like a stand-up bozo
>===<>the clown punching bag, your face was so swollen, empty toilet paper
>===<>roll cartons had to be use to insert in your face to assist your
>===<>breathing. If you only made him lunch the way he asked for it, without
>===<>the wise crack remarks, you would still be living in Queens and not
>===<>some backwater state raising useless fish in your yard.
>===<>
>===<>Learn to follow instructions, and keep your trap shut.


Great day in the morning..........LOL!

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"Gantz" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
> Derek Broughton wrote:
>> Snooze wrote:
>> Asking Carol to leave is not only repugnant, when she's done nothing
> here to
>> deserve it.
>
> I agree. Meagan law is stupid as well. If the guy who lives in front of
> my house is a child molester, and I have children, why should I care
> but his behaviour elsewhere?
>
> You are absolutley right.
>
> > otoh, Carol, if you stopped responding to Snooze & Jan & Anne &
> anybody else
>> who's calling on you to leave, they _would_ go away (at least, they'd
> stop
>> thinking about you).
>> --
>> derek
>
> Not going to happen. Carol need the attention. See how she parasite on
> to threads, in a "me too" fashion? In fact, she will now spit on your
> face as well for telling her not to respond to her opposers.
>
> And watch how she will call me another Jabriol Sock puppet.
>
> This is not going to end to the right people do the right thing.
>

[cat daddy]

"Derek Broughton" > wrote in message
...
> Snooze wrote:
>
> > "Reel McKoi" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> Notice it doesn't occur to Snooze to ask the "bad man" and his
side-kicks
> >> to go away.....
> >
> > Asking Jabriol to go away would be a waste of effort, because he's not
> > going to, until he's sufficiently bored of it.Since you two claim to
have
> > been going at it for 9 years, i don't think either of you two are going
to
> > get bored anytime soon.
> >
> > What option do you suggest that doesn't involve asking you to go away
and
> > take your stalkers with you?
> > Add each new identity they come up with to the killfile?
>
> That's the _only_ real option.
>
> Killing anything that's cross-posted to rec.ponds and any other groups
than
> misc.rural (sometimes cross-posted re: farm ponds) and *.garden* (I'm
> guessing there are both alt. and rec. gardening groups) is effective.
> Unfortunately, not many news readers can do that.
>
> Asking Carol to leave is not only repugnant, when she's done nothing here
to
> deserve it (and her behavior anywhere else is irrelevant -

So, you think Carol's replying to the crossposts here, snecking only
rec.ponds, and broadcasting an appeal to leave out rec.ponds is irrelevant?
That's the Usenet equivalent of erecting a beacon to every miscreant who
wants to follow the trail of crumbs back here. Don't let the blinders slip
off your forehead, Broughton.

>where will you
> stop? I upset a co-worker a couple of weeks ago - should I be banned,
too?)
> but it's impossible. If you can't get people who know they're being jerks
> to leave us alone, how do you think you can get someone who hasn't done
> anything here to leave?
>
> otoh, Carol, if you stopped responding to Snooze & Jan & Anne & anybody
else
> who's calling on you to leave, they _would_ go away (at least, they'd stop
> thinking about you).

Why don't you ask her to stop crossposting to other groups about her
rec.ponds problem? It was not too long ago she claimed she had nym-shift to
keep the "stalkers" from finding her. Now, she's all but advertising this
place as a troll haven.

[Dyno Mutt]

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jabriol > wrote in
. com>:

>Maxx Pollare wrote:
>>
>>
>> And you think that will make the "bad man" go away? };8)
>>
>>
>
>that would be a promise.
>
I hear you're a horrid usenet troll.
I'm here representing the Snuh-collective. We're a trolls union :)
We don't offer any monetary benefits but you get the pleasure of wearing
an Offishul Snuh Badge!!!!1111!!!!

Join us
Join Us
Join Us!

news:alt.snuh

[Reel McKoi]

"Maxx Pollare" > wrote in message
. ..
> The voice of "cat daddy" drifted in on the cyber-winds,
> from the sea of virtual chaos...
>
> > Why don't you ask her to stop crossposting to other groups about
> > her rec.ponds problem? It was not too long ago she claimed she had
> > nym-shift to keep the "stalkers" from finding her. Now, she's all
> > but advertising this place as a troll haven.
>
>
> That much I can agree with...
> But I'll have to double-check the headers of those posts first.
>
> --
> Maxx Pollare, a "small god" in his own mind...
=========================
I've asked people to remove rec.ponds and AFN as religion, evolution etc. is
irrelevant to us. They will comply or they wont. It's a common thing
people do. I don't see how that will draw even more trolls here???!?!?!?!
--
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EVERYONE: "Please check people's headers for forgeries
before flushing." :-)
~~~ }<((((o> ~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~ }<(((((o>

[Gantz]

I told you all.......
The woman can't keep her Yap Yap shut for nuts!
She does no wrong ever.
She never ever takes responsabilty for action. And this is why
rec.ponds is going to convert in wreck.swamp

she listen to Derek's advice for about a good 2 seconds, which is about
as long as it for took for her realize she agreed with a Man, and made
a big mistake that goes against core of her very being.

There is only solution. We all have to discommadate Carol. To do this
we need an RFD.

Also Carol has also engaged the use of a pay NSP. And she writing under
her real birth name. Carolyn. No problem with that. She won't blow that
service away.


Reel McKoi wrote:
>
> =========================
> I've asked people to remove rec.ponds and AFN as religion, evolution
etc. is
> irrelevant to us. They will comply or they wont. It's a common
thing
> people do. I don't see how that will draw even more trolls
here???!?!?!?!
> --
> McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
> EVERYONE: "Please check people's headers for forgeries
> before flushing." :-)
> ~~~ }<((((o> ~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~ }<(((((o>

[Fred Hall]

On 13 May 2005 23:14:26 +0200, Dyno Mutt >
wrote:

>jabriol > wrote in
. com>:
>
>>Maxx Pollare wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> And you think that will make the "bad man" go away? };8)
>>>
>>>
>>
>>that would be a promise.
>>
>I hear you're a horrid usenet troll.
>I'm here representing the Snuh-collective. We're a trolls union :)
>We don't offer any monetary benefits but you get the pleasure of wearing
>an Offishul Snuh Badge!!!!1111!!!!

Jabriol the Sn*htard? Even Drano wouldn't associate with that pond
scum.

>
>Join us
>Join Us
>Join Us!
>
>news:alt.snuh

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>many usenet accounts terminated, because people do not obey my wishes. --- Uni clarifies it all

The question:

>> Which part is cornfusing for you?

Uni responds:

>
>Any word greater than two letters long.

I swear it happened in
MID >

[Julius Gantz]

Maxx Pollare wrote:

>
>
> First of all, Jab can just grow up. Like in here nothing you've done
> in the past has being "group destroying". Yes you're opininated, and
> at times REALLY misguided, but you've done nothing wrong.
>

Max,

I guess you would not care, If I went around the newsgroups for years
telling people you raped your daughter who is minor, and dumped her on
the street? You would find nothing wrong with this, as well as the use
of remailers to do the same?

So If I came to this group and said Mr. pollare sodimized his son at the
age of three, I am just expressing my opinion.

I understand completely, and of course you would not mind, when I go
around telling others to call the Police Dept of your own city to report
you in. Even though If I believe it to be true, that would be my
responsibility as a citizen. I completely understand your mindset.



> That said Carol, you have to stop nyn-shifting to get around filters.
> Everyone has just as much a right to filter you out as you have to to
> beguile and ridicule them for their beliefs (and as long as it's not
> against that group's charter).
>
> You also have to stop responding ALL of Jab's posts:
> - Don't point out his posts
> - Don't reply to his ribbing
> - Don't look for his socks
> - Ingore his forgeries (sit on your hands if you have to)
>
> If somone has a valid quetion about "what's going on", let somone
> else answer it. As long as you keep playing with this person you'll
> never be free, so as far as it's concened Jab's now dead to you.

She is not going to listen to your advice. Derek told her the same
thing, and she did not listen. She incapable of listening or following
any advice you give her. She will reply: yeah good advice I am going to
follow it. But she never does. What she will do it reply and curse at
you thru her remailer coming from her Adelphia service provider. She
will not let Jabriol out of her mind to do this, would give Jabriol
victory and evidence she is wrong to begin with.


>
> Be content to just quietly "kill file/filter" him, and leave it be.
> (Contact me via email if you need some filtering sugestions.)
>

She gets all her advice from Fred Hall/ Gary Burnlore a Sex Offender and
owner of databasix.

There is really only one solution. Either she recants, or either she
gets canned by her ISP or, everyone in rec.ponds stop replying to her,
instead. This has been going on for 10 years. Filters are limited. There
are so many names in the english dictionary. People will get tired of
posting here. It is the same tecnique That Carol used on ARJW. She wore
them down with her NYM shifting to bypass filters. The woman doesnt has
to work, she sits at her PC all day harrassing JW's and attacking them.
The evidence was presented here at her request. Jabriol Is an IP
profesional and is the head of his dept. Get whats he is going to be
doing until he retires? Many of you will be dead by then.

As I mentioned there is a solution. Either you guys accept it, or watch
the group sink to a new low every day. But unlike Carol, Jabriol will
stick to his word. Like carol he can NYM shift and use different servers
and keep you guys adding on on to your filter for an eternity.

your response is?

[Gantz]

Maxx Pollare wrote:

>
>
> First of all, Jab can just grow up. Like in here nothing you've done

> in the past has being "group destroying". Yes you're opininated, and

> at times REALLY misguided, but you've done nothing wrong.
>

Max,

I guess you would not care, If I went around the newsgroups for years
telling people you raped your daughter who is minor, and dumped her on
the street? You would find nothing wrong with this, as well as the use
of remailers to do the same?

So If I came to this group and said Mr. pollare sodimized his son at
the age of three, I am just expressing my opinion.

I understand completely, and of course you would not mind, when I go
around telling others to call the Police Dept of your own city to
report you in. Even though If I believe it to be true, that would be my
responsibility as a citizen. I completely understand your mindset.



> That said Carol, you have to stop nyn-shifting to get around filters.

> Everyone has just as much a right to filter you out as you have to to

> beguile and ridicule them for their beliefs (and as long as it's not
> against that group's charter).
>
> You also have to stop responding ALL of Jab's posts:
> - Don't point out his posts
> - Don't reply to his ribbing
> - Don't look for his socks
> - Ingore his forgeries (sit on your hands if you have to)
>
> If somone has a valid quetion about "what's going on", let somone
> else answer it. As long as you keep playing with this person you'll
> never be free, so as far as it's concened Jab's now dead to you.

She is not going to listen to your advice. Derek told her the same
thing, and she did not listen. She incapable of listening or following
any advice you give her. She will reply: yeah good advice I am going to
follow it. But she never does. What she will do it reply and curse at
you thru her remailer coming from her Adelphia service provider. She
will not let Jabriol out of her mind to do this, would give Jabriol
victory and evidence she is wrong to begin with.


>
> Be content to just quietly "kill file/filter" him, and leave it be.
> (Contact me via email if you need some filtering sugestions.)
>

She gets all her advice from Fred Hall/ Gary Burnlore a alleged Sex
Offender and owner of databasix.

There is really only one solution. Either she recants, or either she
gets canned by her ISP or, everyone in rec.ponds stop replying to her,
instead. This has been going on for 10 years. Filters are limited.
There are so many names in the english dictionary. People will get
tired of posting here. It is the same tecnique That Carol used on ARJW.
She wore them down with her NYM shifting to bypass filters. The woman
doesnt has to work, she sits at her PC all day harrassing JW's and
attacking them. The evidence was presented here at her request. Jabriol
Is an IP profesional and is the eldest of his dept. Get whats he is
going to be doing until he retires? Many of you will be dead by then.

As I mentioned there is a solution. Either you guys accept it, or watch
the group sink to a new low every day. But unlike Carol, Jabriol will
stick to his word. Like carol he can NYM shift and use different
servers and keep you guys adding on on to your filter for an eternity.

your response is?

[Julius Gantz]

Maxx Pollare wrote:

>
>
> First of all, Jab can just grow up. Like in here nothing you've done
> in the past has being "group destroying". Yes you're opininated, and
> at times REALLY misguided, but you've done nothing wrong.
>

Max,

I guess you would not care, If I went around the newsgroups for years
telling people you raped your daughter who is minor, and dumped her on
the street? You would find nothing wrong with this, as well as the use
of remailers to do the same?

So If I came to this group and said Mr. pollare sodimized his son at the
age of three, I am just expressing my opinion.

I understand completely, and of course you would not mind, when I go
around telling others to call the Police Dept of your own city to report
you in. Even though If I believe it to be true, that would be my
responsibility as a citizen. I completely understand your mindset.



> That said Carol, you have to stop nyn-shifting to get around filters.
> Everyone has just as much a right to filter you out as you have to to
> beguile and ridicule them for their beliefs (and as long as it's not
> against that group's charter).
>
> You also have to stop responding ALL of Jab's posts:
> - Don't point out his posts
> - Don't reply to his ribbing
> - Don't look for his socks
> - Ingore his forgeries (sit on your hands if you have to)
>
> If somone has a valid quetion about "what's going on", let somone
> else answer it. As long as you keep playing with this person you'll
> never be free, so as far as it's concened Jab's now dead to you.

She is not going to listen to your advice. Derek told her the same
thing, and she did not listen. She incapable of listening or following
any advice you give her. She will reply: yeah good advice I am going to
follow it. But she never does. What she will do it reply and curse at
you thru her remailer coming from her Adelphia service provider. She
will not let Jabriol out of her mind to do this, would give Jabriol
victory and evidence she is wrong to begin with.


>
> Be content to just quietly "kill file/filter" him, and leave it be.
> (Contact me via email if you need some filtering sugestions.)
>

She gets all her advice from Fred Hall/ Gary Burnlore a Sex Offender and
owner of databasix.

There is really only one solution. Either she recants, or either she
gets canned by her ISP or, everyone in rec.ponds stop replying to her,
instead. This has been going on for 10 years. Filters are limited. There
are so many names in the english dictionary. People will get tired of
posting here. It is the same tecnique That Carol used on ARJW. She wore
them down with her NYM shifting to bypass filters. The woman doesnt has
to work, she sits at her PC all day harrassing JW's and attacking them.
The evidence was presented here at her request. Jabriol Is an IP
profesional and is the head of his dept. Get whats he is going to be
doing until he retires? Many of you will be dead by then.

As I mentioned there is a solution. Either you guys accept it, or watch
the group sink to a new low every day. But unlike Carol, Jabriol will
stick to his word. Like carol he can NYM shift and use different servers
and keep you guys adding on on to your filter for an eternity.

your response is?

[~Roy~]

I say go for it Jabriol..........
Don't take her crap, make her eat her words and appologize......do
what you have to do to make it right.........






On Sat, 14 May 2005 08:26:30 -0400, Julius Gantz >
wrote:

>===<>Maxx Pollare wrote:
>===<>
>===<>>
>===<>>
>===<>> First of all, Jab can just grow up. Like in here nothing you've done
>===<>> in the past has being "group destroying". Yes you're opininated, and
>===<>> at times REALLY misguided, but you've done nothing wrong.
>===<>>
>===<>
>===<>Max,
>===<>
>===<>I guess you would not care, If I went around the newsgroups for years
>===<>telling people you raped your daughter who is minor, and dumped her on
>===<>the street? You would find nothing wrong with this, as well as the use
>===<>of remailers to do the same?
>===<>
>===<>So If I came to this group and said Mr. pollare sodimized his son at the
>===<>age of three, I am just expressing my opinion.
>===<>
>===<>I understand completely, and of course you would not mind, when I go
>===<>around telling others to call the Police Dept of your own city to report
>===<>you in. Even though If I believe it to be true, that would be my
>===<>responsibility as a citizen. I completely understand your mindset.
>===<>
>===<>
>===<>
>===<>> That said Carol, you have to stop nyn-shifting to get around filters.
>===<>> Everyone has just as much a right to filter you out as you have to to
>===<>> beguile and ridicule them for their beliefs (and as long as it's not
>===<>> against that group's charter).
>===<>>
>===<>> You also have to stop responding ALL of Jab's posts:
>===<>> - Don't point out his posts
>===<>> - Don't reply to his ribbing
>===<>> - Don't look for his socks
>===<>> - Ingore his forgeries (sit on your hands if you have to)
>===<>>
>===<>> If somone has a valid quetion about "what's going on", let somone
>===<>> else answer it. As long as you keep playing with this person you'll
>===<>> never be free, so as far as it's concened Jab's now dead to you.
>===<>
>===<>She is not going to listen to your advice. Derek told her the same
>===<>thing, and she did not listen. She incapable of listening or following
>===<>any advice you give her. She will reply: yeah good advice I am going to
>===<>follow it. But she never does. What she will do it reply and curse at
>===<>you thru her remailer coming from her Adelphia service provider. She
>===<>will not let Jabriol out of her mind to do this, would give Jabriol
>===<>victory and evidence she is wrong to begin with.
>===<>
>===<>
>===<>>
>===<>> Be content to just quietly "kill file/filter" him, and leave it be.
>===<>> (Contact me via email if you need some filtering sugestions.)
>===<>>
>===<>
>===<>She gets all her advice from Fred Hall/ Gary Burnlore a Sex Offender and
>===<>owner of databasix.
>===<>
>===<>There is really only one solution. Either she recants, or either she
>===<>gets canned by her ISP or, everyone in rec.ponds stop replying to her,
>===<>instead. This has been going on for 10 years. Filters are limited. There
>===<>are so many names in the english dictionary. People will get tired of
>===<>posting here. It is the same tecnique That Carol used on ARJW. She wore
>===<>them down with her NYM shifting to bypass filters. The woman doesnt has
>===<>to work, she sits at her PC all day harrassing JW's and attacking them.
>===<>The evidence was presented here at her request. Jabriol Is an IP
>===<>profesional and is the head of his dept. Get whats he is going to be
>===<>doing until he retires? Many of you will be dead by then.
>===<>
>===<>As I mentioned there is a solution. Either you guys accept it, or watch
>===<>the group sink to a new low every day. But unlike Carol, Jabriol will
>===<>stick to his word. Like carol he can NYM shift and use different servers
>===<>and keep you guys adding on on to your filter for an eternity.
>===<>
>===<>your response is?


==============================================
Put some color in your cheeks...garden naked!

~~~~ }<((((o> ~~~~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~~~~~ }<(((((o>

[suzee]

Gantz wrote:

> Maxx Pollare wrote:
>
>>First of all, Jab can just grow up. Like in here nothing you've done
>>in the past has being "group destroying". Yes you're opininated, and
>>at times REALLY misguided, but you've done nothing wrong.
>
> Max,
>
> I guess you would not care, If I went around the newsgroups for years
> telling people you raped your daughter who is minor, and dumped her on
> the street? You would find nothing wrong with this, as well as the use
> of remailers to do the same?
>
> So If I came to this group and said Mr. pollare sodimized his son at
> the age of three, I am just expressing my opinion.

But can't you guys keep it to whatever group you're in? It's Jab that
includes all the other irrelevant groups to the crosspostings.

[Julius Gantz]

suzee wrote:

>
> But can't you guys keep it to whatever group you're in? It's Jab that
> includes all the other irrelevant groups to the crosspostings.
>

I think Jabs is getting his message accross. But maybe you can ask
Shared-secrets.com and Aioe.org and X-private to Dump carol aka Reel
Mckoi aka Cracklin account. And Jabriol will leave.

sound sensible.

Kashimoto

[Derek Broughton]

Maxx Pollare wrote:

> The voice of "Julius Gantz" drifted in on the cyber-winds,
> from the sea of virtual chaos...
>
>> There is really only one solution. Either she recants, or either
>> she gets canned by her ISP or, everyone in rec.ponds stop replying
>> to her, instead. This has been going on for 10 years.

See, that's just not going to happen. I don't expect her to "recant" (and
as far as I care she has nothing to "recant" - she may have accused J*** of
various evils, but it wasn't here, I don't intend to wade through ARJW to
find out, and the only person who really "knows" seems to be J***) and I
won't stop replying to her. She has valid and valuable knowledge about
ponds. Then again, sometimes I just gotta correct her. :-)

> The house always wins...

You betcha.
>
>> Filters are limited.
>
> No, filters are onlimited by the program your using...
>
>> There are so many names in the english dictionary. People will get
>> tired of posting here. It is the same tecnique That Carol used on
>> ARJW. She wore them down with her NYM shifting to bypass filters.

Well, I'm tired enough of the idiocy, but the only cure is to go back to
talking about ponds. Nymshifting isn't going to tire me out. It takes
J*** a lot longer to make a new identity than it takes me to filter him
(one click to filter on identity).
--
derek

[Reel Mckoi]

Derek Broughton wrote:
> Maxx Pollare wrote:
>
>
>>The voice of "Julius Gantz" drifted in on the cyber-winds,
>>from the sea of virtual chaos...
>>
>>
>>>There is really only one solution. Either she recants, or either
>>>she gets canned by her ISP or, everyone in rec.ponds stop replying
>>>to her, instead. This has been going on for 10 years.
>
>
> See, that's just not going to happen. I don't expect her to "recant" (and
> as far as I care she has nothing to "recant" - she may have accused J*** of
> various evils, but it wasn't here, I don't intend to wade through ARJW to
> find out, and the only person who really "knows" seems to be J***) and I
> won't stop replying to her. She has valid and valuable knowledge about
> ponds. Then again, sometimes I just gotta correct her. :-)
>
>
>>The house always wins...
>
>
> You betcha.
>
>>>Filters are limited.
>>
>>No, filters are onlimited by the program your using...
>>
>>
>>>There are so many names in the english dictionary. People will get
>>>tired of posting here. It is the same tecnique That Carol used on
>>>ARJW. She wore them down with her NYM shifting to bypass filters.
>
>
> Well, I'm tired enough of the idiocy, but the only cure is to go back to
> talking about ponds. Nymshifting isn't going to tire me out. It takes
> J*** a lot longer to make a new identity than it takes me to filter him
> (one click to filter on identity).

#That my Boy.

#I love Derek and Derek loves me.
#Now why can't you all do the same?

McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
EVERYONE: "Please check people's headers for forgeries
before flushing." :-)
~~~ }<((((o> ~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~ }<(((((o>

[Dyno Mutt]

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Fred Hall <God> wrote in >:

>On 13 May 2005 23:14:26 +0200, Dyno Mutt >
>wrote:
>
>>jabriol > wrote in
. com>:
>>
>>>Maxx Pollare wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And you think that will make the "bad man" go away? };8)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>that would be a promise.
>>>
>>I hear you're a horrid usenet troll.
>>I'm here representing the Snuh-collective. We're a trolls union :)
>>We don't offer any monetary benefits but you get the pleasure of
wearing
>>an Offishul Snuh Badge!!!!1111!!!!
>
>Jabriol the Sn*htard? Even Drano wouldn't associate with that pond
>scum.
>
Sure...we'll talk to anybody :)
I mean...we talk to *you*.

BTW, did you ever find your Nutsack, fred?

[Reel McKoi]

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"Reel Mckoi" > wrote in message
...
> Derek Broughton wrote:
> > Maxx Pollare wrote:
> >
> >
> >>The voice of "Julius Gantz" drifted in on the cyber-winds,
> >>from the sea of virtual chaos...
> >>
> >>
> >>>There is really only one solution. Either she recants, or either
> >>>she gets canned by her ISP or, everyone in rec.ponds stop replying
> >>>to her, instead. This has been going on for 10 years.
> >
> >
> > See, that's just not going to happen. I don't expect her to "recant"
(and
> > as far as I care she has nothing to "recant" - she may have accused J***
of
> > various evils, but it wasn't here, I don't intend to wade through ARJW
to
> > find out, and the only person who really "knows" seems to be J***) and I
> > won't stop replying to her. She has valid and valuable knowledge about
> > ponds. Then again, sometimes I just gotta correct her. :-)
> >
> >
> >>The house always wins...
> >
> >
> > You betcha.
> >
> >>>Filters are limited.
> >>
> >>No, filters are onlimited by the program your using...
> >>
> >>
> >>>There are so many names in the english dictionary. People will get
> >>>tired of posting here. It is the same tecnique That Carol used on
> >>>ARJW. She wore them down with her NYM shifting to bypass filters.
> >
> >
> > Well, I'm tired enough of the idiocy, but the only cure is to go back to
> > talking about ponds. Nymshifting isn't going to tire me out. It takes
> > J*** a lot longer to make a new identity than it takes me to filter him
> > (one click to filter on identity).
>
> #That my Boy.
>
> #I love Derek and Derek loves me.
> #Now why can't you all do the same?
>
> McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
> EVERYONE: "Please check people's headers for forgeries
> before flushing." :-)
> ~~~ }<((((o> ~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~ }<(((((o>
>
>
>

[Fred Hall]

On 14 May 2005 23:17:52 +0200, Dyno Mutt >
wrote:

>Fred Hall <God> wrote in >:
>
>>On 13 May 2005 23:14:26 +0200, Dyno Mutt >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>jabriol > wrote in
. com>:
>>>
>>>>Maxx Pollare wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> And you think that will make the "bad man" go away? };8)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>that would be a promise.
>>>>
>>>I hear you're a horrid usenet troll.
>>>I'm here representing the Snuh-collective. We're a trolls union :)
>>>We don't offer any monetary benefits but you get the pleasure of
>wearing
>>>an Offishul Snuh Badge!!!!1111!!!!
>>
>>Jabriol the Sn*htard? Even Drano wouldn't associate with that pond
>>scum.
>>
>Sure...we'll talk to anybody :)
>I mean...we talk to *you*.

*OUCH*!!!

That hurt, man.

>
>BTW, did you ever find your Nutsack, fred?

What is it with Sn*htards and their fascination with my *Nutsack?*

>


--

Are anymore chin's slapping your *nutsack*, ThreadDropper?

Dean 'Herpes' Humphries demonstrates his unhealthy obsession with my *nutsack* in MID >

[Reel McKoi]

From: Jabriol )
Subject: Re: We are Primates and behave like primates.. free all
rapist today!
View: Complete Thread (272 articles)
Original Format
Newsgroups: talk.origins, alt.religion.jehovahs-witn,
alt.support.depression.teens, alt.support.rape-survivors
Date: 1999/08/06


On 6-Aug-1999, (William F. Gunkel)
wrote:



> I am leaving this response in your Usenet group
> only to let you and the readership there know that all guys are not as
> callous and downright pigs on your topic. I have nothing to add except
> to apologize for the actions of the rapists, and those males clearly
> having no sense or sensitivity to the ordeal, and the aftermath that
> can be even worse, forever.


Well then you should protest to the american public school
system, that
teaches
that man is a mere animal, and when his biological urge occur,
he will act
acordingly.

Or does anyone denies That Humans are nothing more than evolved
super ape..


is Morals taught in school? in science?


or are morals part of religion that is taught as myth...


Rape is a very horrible thing,


what is more horrible, is that the teaching of evolution teaches
kids to
take a chance..


How many rape victims will ever be able to take thier victims to
court?


how many got away with it? and will never be caught, because
they learn that
human are here by mere chance,
and you only got one life to live. Take that chance, teache
evolution.. and
hence rapist take the chance and get away with it.


My wife was raped.. she could not ever Identify who did it..


in new york my oldest "daughter" was raped at 13, her rapist got
away with
it.. the was mentally damage so bad, that I had to remove her
from the
household.. 38,000 dollar for just to weeks at a juvinile
facilty for
nothing..


this is what evolution teaches...


and people on TO, say that I force out the home, when they do
not have all
the facts..
I would castrate the ******* who did it..


but I wil lnot have that oportunity.. so you guys can forward
this to my ISP
as well..


:RAPE OBSESSION?


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Reel McKoi]

Maxx Pollare wrote:

>
>
> First of all, Jab can just grow up. Like in here nothing you've done
> in the past has being "group destroying". Yes you're opininated, and
> at times REALLY misguided, but you've done nothing wrong.
>

Max,

I guess you would not care, If I went around the newsgroups for years
telling people you raped your daughter who is minor, and dumped her on
the street? You would find nothing wrong with this, as well as the use
of remailers to do the same?

So If I came to this group and said Mr. pollare sodimized his son at the
age of three, I am just expressing my opinion.

I understand completely, and of course you would not mind, when I go
around telling others to call the Police Dept of your own city to report
you in. Even though If I believe it to be true, that would be my
responsibility as a citizen. I completely understand your mindset.



> That said Carol, you have to stop nyn-shifting to get around filters.
> Everyone has just as much a right to filter you out as you have to to
> beguile and ridicule them for their beliefs (and as long as it's not
> against that group's charter).
>
> You also have to stop responding ALL of Jab's posts:
> - Don't point out his posts
> - Don't reply to his ribbing
> - Don't look for his socks
> - Ingore his forgeries (sit on your hands if you have to)
>
> If somone has a valid quetion about "what's going on", let somone
> else answer it. As long as you keep playing with this person you'll
> never be free, so as far as it's concened Jab's now dead to you.

She is not going to listen to your advice. Derek told her the same
thing, and she did not listen. She incapable of listening or following
any advice you give her. She will reply: yeah good advice I am going to
follow it. But she never does. What she will do it reply and curse at
you thru her remailer coming from her Adelphia service provider. She
will not let Jabriol out of her mind to do this, would give Jabriol
victory and evidence she is wrong to begin with.


>
> Be content to just quietly "kill file/filter" him, and leave it be.
> (Contact me via email if you need some filtering sugestions.)
>

She gets all her advice from Fred Hall/ Gary Burnlore a Sex Offender and
owner of databasix.

There is really only one solution. Either she recants, or either she
gets canned by her ISP or, everyone in rec.ponds stop replying to her,
instead. This has been going on for 10 years. Filters are limited. There
are so many names in the english dictionary. People will get tired of
posting here. It is the same tecnique That Carol used on ARJW. She wore
them down with her NYM shifting to bypass filters. The woman doesnt has
to work, she sits at her PC all day harrassing JW's and attacking them.
The evidence was presented here at her request. Jabriol Is an IP
profesional and is the head of his dept. Get whats he is going to be
doing until he retires? Many of you will be dead by then.

As I mentioned there is a solution. Either you guys accept it, or watch
the group sink to a new low every day. But unlike Carol, Jabriol will
stick to his word. Like carol he can NYM shift and use different servers
and keep you guys adding on on to your filter for an eternity.

your response is?

[Reel McKoi]

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"Reel McKoi" > wrote in message
...
> From: Jabriol )
> Subject: Re: We are Primates and behave like primates.. free all
> rapist today!
> View: Complete Thread (272 articles)
> Original Format
> Newsgroups: talk.origins, alt.religion.jehovahs-witn,
> alt.support.depression.teens, alt.support.rape-survivors
> Date: 1999/08/06
>
>
> On 6-Aug-1999, (William F. Gunkel)
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I am leaving this response in your Usenet group
> > only to let you and the readership there know that all guys are not as
> > callous and downright pigs on your topic. I have nothing to add except
> > to apologize for the actions of the rapists, and those males clearly
> > having no sense or sensitivity to the ordeal, and the aftermath that
> > can be even worse, forever.
>
>
> Well then you should protest to the american public school
> system, that
> teaches
> that man is a mere animal, and when his biological urge occur,
> he will act
> acordingly.
>
> Or does anyone denies That Humans are nothing more than evolved
> super ape..
>
>
> is Morals taught in school? in science?
>
>
> or are morals part of religion that is taught as myth...
>
>
> Rape is a very horrible thing,
>
>
> what is more horrible, is that the teaching of evolution teaches
> kids to
> take a chance..
>
>
> How many rape victims will ever be able to take thier victims to
> court?
>
>
> how many got away with it? and will never be caught, because
> they learn that
> human are here by mere chance,
> and you only got one life to live. Take that chance, teache
> evolution.. and
> hence rapist take the chance and get away with it.
>
>
> My wife was raped.. she could not ever Identify who did it..
>
>
> in new york my oldest "daughter" was raped at 13, her rapist got
> away with
> it.. the was mentally damage so bad, that I had to remove her
> from the
> household.. 38,000 dollar for just to weeks at a juvinile
> facilty for
> nothing..
>
>
> this is what evolution teaches...
>
>
> and people on TO, say that I force out the home, when they do
> not have all
> the facts..
> I would castrate the ******* who did it..
>
>
> but I wil lnot have that oportunity.. so you guys can forward
> this to my ISP
> as well..
>
>
> :RAPE OBSESSION?
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Reel McKoi]

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"Reel McKoi" > wrote in message
...
> Maxx Pollare wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > First of all, Jab can just grow up. Like in here nothing you've done
> > in the past has being "group destroying". Yes you're opininated, and
> > at times REALLY misguided, but you've done nothing wrong.
> >
>
> Max,
>
> I guess you would not care, If I went around the newsgroups for years
> telling people you raped your daughter who is minor, and dumped her on
> the street? You would find nothing wrong with this, as well as the use
> of remailers to do the same?
>
> So If I came to this group and said Mr. pollare sodimized his son at the
> age of three, I am just expressing my opinion.
>
> I understand completely, and of course you would not mind, when I go
> around telling others to call the Police Dept of your own city to report
> you in. Even though If I believe it to be true, that would be my
> responsibility as a citizen. I completely understand your mindset.
>
>
>
> > That said Carol, you have to stop nyn-shifting to get around filters.
> > Everyone has just as much a right to filter you out as you have to to
> > beguile and ridicule them for their beliefs (and as long as it's not
> > against that group's charter).
> >
> > You also have to stop responding ALL of Jab's posts:
> > - Don't point out his posts
> > - Don't reply to his ribbing
> > - Don't look for his socks
> > - Ingore his forgeries (sit on your hands if you have to)
> >
> > If somone has a valid quetion about "what's going on", let somone
> > else answer it. As long as you keep playing with this person you'll
> > never be free, so as far as it's concened Jab's now dead to you.
>
> She is not going to listen to your advice. Derek told her the same
> thing, and she did not listen. She incapable of listening or following
> any advice you give her. She will reply: yeah good advice I am going to
> follow it. But she never does. What she will do it reply and curse at
> you thru her remailer coming from her Adelphia service provider. She
> will not let Jabriol out of her mind to do this, would give Jabriol
> victory and evidence she is wrong to begin with.
>
>
> >
> > Be content to just quietly "kill file/filter" him, and leave it be.
> > (Contact me via email if you need some filtering sugestions.)
> >
>
> She gets all her advice from Fred Hall/ Gary Burnlore a Sex Offender and
> owner of databasix.
>
> There is really only one solution. Either she recants, or either she
> gets canned by her ISP or, everyone in rec.ponds stop replying to her,
> instead. This has been going on for 10 years. Filters are limited. There
> are so many names in the english dictionary. People will get tired of
> posting here. It is the same tecnique That Carol used on ARJW. She wore
> them down with her NYM shifting to bypass filters. The woman doesnt has
> to work, she sits at her PC all day harrassing JW's and attacking them.
> The evidence was presented here at her request. Jabriol Is an IP
> profesional and is the head of his dept. Get whats he is going to be
> doing until he retires? Many of you will be dead by then.
>
> As I mentioned there is a solution. Either you guys accept it, or watch
> the group sink to a new low every day. But unlike Carol, Jabriol will
> stick to his word. Like carol he can NYM shift and use different servers
> and keep you guys adding on on to your filter for an eternity.
>
> your response is?
>
>

[Fred Hall]

On Sun, 15 May 2005 12:07:04 -0400, Reel McKoi >
wrote:

>Maxx Pollare wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> First of all, Jab can just grow up. Like in here nothing you've done
>> in the past has being "group destroying". Yes you're opininated, and
>> at times REALLY misguided, but you've done nothing wrong.
>>
>
>Max,
>
>I guess you would not care, If I went around the newsgroups for years
>telling people you raped your daughter who is minor, and dumped her on
>the street? You would find nothing wrong with this, as well as the use
>of remailers to do the same?

Anyone would be offended by it, but your problem with Carol is no
different from the problems others have in other groups. I've seen
much worse on Usenet. You are a whiner.

>
>So If I came to this group and said Mr. pollare sodimized his son at the
>age of three, I am just expressing my opinion.

No more offensive than your rape and suicide posts. Grow up 'tonio.

>
>I understand completely, and of course you would not mind, when I go
>around telling others to call the Police Dept of your own city to report
>you in. Even though If I believe it to be true, that would be my
>responsibility as a citizen. I completely understand your mindset.

Only in rec.ponds can you get away with your disinformation and
propaganda. The same thing goes on daily throughout Usenet, and you
know it. Stop whining.

>
>
>
>> That said Carol, you have to stop nyn-shifting to get around filters.
>> Everyone has just as much a right to filter you out as you have to to
>> beguile and ridicule them for their beliefs (and as long as it's not
>> against that group's charter).
>>
>> You also have to stop responding ALL of Jab's posts:
>> - Don't point out his posts
>> - Don't reply to his ribbing
>> - Don't look for his socks
>> - Ingore his forgeries (sit on your hands if you have to)
>>
>> If somone has a valid quetion about "what's going on", let somone
>> else answer it. As long as you keep playing with this person you'll
>> never be free, so as far as it's concened Jab's now dead to you.
>
>She is not going to listen to your advice. Derek told her the same
>thing, and she did not listen. She incapable of listening or following
>any advice you give her. She will reply: yeah good advice I am going to
>follow it. But she never does. What she will do it reply and curse at
>you thru her remailer coming from her Adelphia service provider. She
>will not let Jabriol out of her mind to do this, would give Jabriol
>victory and evidence she is wrong to begin with.

You do realize you are exhibiting all the signs of kook behavior?

>
>
>>
>> Be content to just quietly "kill file/filter" him, and leave it be.
>> (Contact me via email if you need some filtering sugestions.)
>>
>
>She gets all her advice from Fred Hall/ Gary Burnlore a Sex Offender and
>owner of databasix.

Dumbass. You know better.

>
>There is really only one solution. Either she recants, or either she
>gets canned by her ISP or, everyone in rec.ponds stop replying to her,
>instead. This has been going on for 10 years. Filters are limited. There
>are so many names in the english dictionary. People will get tired of
>posting here. It is the same tecnique That Carol used on ARJW. She wore
>them down with her NYM shifting to bypass filters. The woman doesnt has
>to work, she sits at her PC all day harrassing JW's and attacking them.
>The evidence was presented here at her request. Jabriol Is an IP
>profesional and is the head of his dept. Get whats he is going to be
>doing until he retires? Many of you will be dead by then.

How dramatic.

>
>As I mentioned there is a solution. Either you guys accept it, or watch
>the group sink to a new low every day. But unlike Carol, Jabriol will
>stick to his word. Like carol he can NYM shift and use different servers
>and keep you guys adding on on to your filter for an eternity.
>
>your response is?

You are a net.k00k.

An obsessed net.k0ok.

Carol owns you.

>


--

For those who complain about too much old light,
here's some kooky new light from the WTS:

http://www1.tip.nl/~t661020/wtcitaten/part4.htm

http://silentlambs.org
www.freeminds.org

[DE]

Gantz wrote:
....
> She gets all her advice from Fred Hall/ Gary Burnlore a alleged [slanderous comment removed]
> Offender and owner of databasix.


Uh, I hope one or both of these fellows hires a lawyer; not only has
the delusional Jabbers continued to confuse the two, but he's so far
over the line for libel/slander here (since the only one who "alleges"
what he claims is *him*) that he needs to learn an EXPENSIVE lesson.


(What's really hilarious here is that Jabbers actually believes that
Carol knows either guy at all!)

[Fred Hall]

On Sun, 15 May 2005 12:36:06 -0700, DE > wrote:

>Gantz wrote:
>...
>> She gets all her advice from Fred Hall/ Gary Burnlore a alleged [slanderous comment removed]
>> Offender and owner of databasix.
>
>
>Uh, I hope one or both of these fellows hires a lawyer; not only has
>the delusional Jabbers continued to confuse the two, but he's so far
>over the line for libel/slander here (since the only one who "alleges"
>what he claims is *him*) that he needs to learn an EXPENSIVE lesson.
>
>
>(What's really hilarious here is that Jabbers actually believes that
>Carol knows either guy at all!)

While it's true he's been posting to Usenet for over ten years, he
demonstrates a total lack of clue when it comes to Usenet. A shame he
won GK.

[Dyno Mutt]

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Fred Hall <God> wrote in >:

>On 14 May 2005 23:17:52 +0200, Dyno Mutt >
>wrote:
>
>>Fred Hall <God> wrote in >:
>>
>>>On 13 May 2005 23:14:26 +0200, Dyno Mutt >
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>jabriol > wrote in
. com>:
>>>>
>>>>>Maxx Pollare wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And you think that will make the "bad man" go away? };8)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>that would be a promise.
>>>>>
>>>>I hear you're a horrid usenet troll.
>>>>I'm here representing the Snuh-collective. We're a trolls union :)
>>>>We don't offer any monetary benefits but you get the pleasure of
>>wearing
>>>>an Offishul Snuh Badge!!!!1111!!!!
>>>
>>>Jabriol the Sn*htard? Even Drano wouldn't associate with that pond
>>>scum.
>>>
>>Sure...we'll talk to anybody :)
>>I mean...we talk to *you*.
>
>*OUCH*!!!
>
>That hurt, man.
>
Its a troll thing...


>>
>>BTW, did you ever find your Nutsack, fred?
>
>What is it with Sn*htards and their fascination with my *Nutsack?*
>

Didnt it go missing?

:(

>>
>
>
>--
>
>Are anymore chin's slapping your *nutsack*, ThreadDropper?
>
>Dean 'Herpes' Humphries demonstrates his unhealthy obsession with my
*nutsack* in MID >
>

[Reel McKoi]

"Maxx Pollare" > wrote in message
. ..
> The voice of "Reel McKoi" drifted in on the cyber-winds,
> from the sea of virtual chaos...
>
> (FORGED HEADER)
>
> As anyone with half a brain can *already* see.
> Where's your hands Carol? }:8P
>
> --
> Maxx Pollare, a "small god" in his own mind...
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I'm sitting on them today. :-)))
--
McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
"Please check people's headers for forgeries
before flushing." :-)
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