Maroon Clownfish or another anemone for hosting

[MarkW]

I posted an earlier msg. about Tangs but as well I have a question
about clownfish/anemones. I have a 125 gallon reef tank and currently
have a Yellow Tang, Sailfine Tang, a couple Percola Clownfish, a
Bubble Tipped Anemone, a Royal Gramma, a Mandarin, and a Firefish
Goby. My question, the bubble tip anemone I have doesn't host the
clownfish. I have heard that it will host Maroon Clownfish but I'm
concerned if adding another clownfish would get along with these other
two clownfish that have been in the tank for a year even though it's a
large tank. I like the maroon clown but part of the reason I'm
interested is today me and my fiancee saw a tank with a anemone and
maroon clownfish in it. If it's easier to just get another anemone
that my percola clowns would go in I'm interested. Should I look at
another anemone they may like or is there something I could look at? I
have heard they like Long Tentacle Anemones but yet I've heard they
need a DSB and I just have a thin layer of sand. Of course as well
I've heard the only sure way for this to work is to buy both the
anemone and clownfish together out of the same tank.

[Adam]

> I posted an earlier msg. about Tangs but as well I have a question
> about clownfish/anemones. I have a 125 gallon reef tank and currently
> have a Yellow Tang, Sailfine Tang, a couple Percola Clownfish, a
> Bubble Tipped Anemone, a Royal Gramma, a Mandarin, and a Firefish
> Goby. My question, the bubble tip anemone I have doesn't host the
> clownfish. I have heard that it will host Maroon Clownfish but I'm
> concerned if adding another clownfish would get along with these other
> two clownfish that have been in the tank for a year even though it's a
> large tank. I like the maroon clown but part of the reason I'm
> interested is today me and my fiancee saw a tank with a anemone and
> maroon clownfish in it. If it's easier to just get another anemone
> that my percola clowns would go in I'm interested. Should I look at
> another anemone they may like or is there something I could look at? I
> have heard they like Long Tentacle Anemones but yet I've heard they
> need a DSB and I just have a thin layer of sand. Of course as well
> I've heard the only sure way for this to work is to buy both the
> anemone and clownfish together out of the same tank.

The answer to your question is that the Tangs aren't likely to get along
with the new Maroon nor is the Maroon likely to get along with the old
Clowns. Tangs are pretty violent as are Maroons. Tangs should always be
added to the tank last as they will establish the tank and all the critters
in it as their own and new comers aren't usually welcome. To have a maroon
with your other clowns it would have been best to add them at the same time.
This is not always the case though. One way to test the theory would be to
put the new fish in a breeder net in the tank and see how the others react
to it and it to them. If it looks good release it into the tank and watch
closely for several days. If any of the fish are picking on any of the
others be prepared to remove the victim at once. After a couple weeks you
can probably relax. As for the Anemones. Some Clowns don't take to them at
all. You may never find one that suits him. There's no way to be sure
until you have them in together. Be careful of buying another Anemone
though as some will kill others and your other fish too.

HTH

Ed

[Marc Levenson]

Give it time. I have a true percula in my BTA, and it took a few weeks for it
to jump in. It has been there ever since. Some dive right in, some wait 8
months to do so, some never will. Others will use the BTA and frogspawn (insert
any other softy) alternately, as they please.

Marc


MarkW wrote:

> I posted an earlier msg. about Tangs but as well I have a question
> about clownfish/anemones. I have a 125 gallon reef tank and currently
> have a Yellow Tang, Sailfine Tang, a couple Percola Clownfish, a
> Bubble Tipped Anemone, a Royal Gramma, a Mandarin, and a Firefish
> Goby. My question, the bubble tip anemone I have doesn't host the
> clownfish. I have heard that it will host Maroon Clownfish but I'm
> concerned if adding another clownfish would get along with these other
> two clownfish that have been in the tank for a year even though it's a
> large tank. I like the maroon clown but part of the reason I'm
> interested is today me and my fiancee saw a tank with a anemone and
> maroon clownfish in it. If it's easier to just get another anemone
> that my percola clowns would go in I'm interested. Should I look at
> another anemone they may like or is there something I could look at? I
> have heard they like Long Tentacle Anemones but yet I've heard they
> need a DSB and I just have a thin layer of sand. Of course as well
> I've heard the only sure way for this to work is to buy both the
> anemone and clownfish together out of the same tank.

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[MarkW]

I was wondering how safe Tomato clownfish would be to add or would I
have the same problem with them?

[Marc Levenson]

Trying to combine various clowns in one tank is the problem. Most of the time,
2 of one species is your limit.

However, you do have a 125g... so you might find it possible to have more than
one type in there.

Marc


MarkW wrote:

> I was wondering how safe Tomato clownfish would be to add or would I
> have the same problem with them?

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[area 51]

"Adam" > wrote in message
...
> > I posted an earlier msg. about Tangs but as well I have a question
> > about clownfish/anemones. I have a 125 gallon reef tank and
currently
> > have a Yellow Tang, Sailfine Tang, a couple Percola Clownfish, a
> > Bubble Tipped Anemone, a Royal Gramma, a Mandarin, and a Firefish
> > Goby. My question, the bubble tip anemone I have doesn't host the
> > clownfish. I have heard that it will host Maroon Clownfish but I'm
> > concerned if adding another clownfish would get along with these
other
> > two clownfish that have been in the tank for a year even though it's
a
> > large tank. I like the maroon clown but part of the reason I'm
> > interested is today me and my fiancee saw a tank with a anemone and
> > maroon clownfish in it. If it's easier to just get another anemone
> > that my percola clowns would go in I'm interested. Should I look at
> > another anemone they may like or is there something I could look at?
I
> > have heard they like Long Tentacle Anemones but yet I've heard they
> > need a DSB and I just have a thin layer of sand. Of course as well
> > I've heard the only sure way for this to work is to buy both the
> > anemone and clownfish together out of the same tank.
>
> The answer to your question is that the Tangs aren't likely to get
along
> with the new Maroon nor is the Maroon likely to get along with the old
> Clowns. Tangs are pretty violent as are Maroons. Tangs should always
be
> added to the tank last as they will establish the tank and all the
critters
> in it as their own and new comers aren't usually welcome. To have a
maroon
> with your other clowns it would have been best to add them at the same
time.
> This is not always the case though. One way to test the theory would
be to
> put the new fish in a breeder net in the tank and see how the others
react
> to it and it to them. If it looks good release it into the tank and
watch
> closely for several days. If any of the fish are picking on any of
the
> others be prepared to remove the victim at once. After a couple weeks
you
> can probably relax. As for the Anemones. Some Clowns don't take to
them at
> all. You may never find one that suits him. There's no way to be
sure
> until you have them in together. Be careful of buying another Anemone
> though as some will kill others and your other fish too.
>
> HTH
>
> Ed
>
I have a large maroon in with a powder blue, and a Yellow tang.
The Tangs leave the Maroon alone. They have their moments but most of it
is bluster.
After 7 years together they get on fine.
They are all very similar in size though, and there is no top dog.
Though when if push came to shove, my money is on the powder blue.

[Dragon Slayer]

> ......... Tangs are pretty violent as are Maroons. Tangs should always
be
> added to the tank last as they will establish the tank and all the
critters
> in it as their own and new comers aren't usually welcome.

I have owned tangs for over 20 years and have never had any problems with
them being aggressive to smaller/dissimilar fish such as clowns when added
to a tank after the tang has been in for years and has established his tank
(IME they don't establish territory it's the entire tank :) ). they do on
the other hand not like the addition of anything of the shape and especially
color of themselves.

this is not to say that you cant have the same problems as Ed described
above but IME tangs will tend to ignore the smaller/dissimilar fish.

kc

[Adam]

"Dragon Slayer" > wrote in message
...
> > ......... Tangs are pretty violent as are Maroons. Tangs should always
> be
> > added to the tank last as they will establish the tank and all the
> critters
> > in it as their own and new comers aren't usually welcome.
>
> I have owned tangs for over 20 years and have never had any problems with
> them being aggressive to smaller/dissimilar fish such as clowns when added
> to a tank after the tang has been in for years and has established his
tank
> (IME they don't establish territory it's the entire tank :) ). they do on
> the other hand not like the addition of anything of the shape and
especially
> color of themselves.
>
> this is not to say that you cant have the same problems as Ed described
> above but IME tangs will tend to ignore the smaller/dissimilar fish.

I guess I should have highlighted the part of my response about "this is not
always the case" My answer was kinda due to the loss of my first fish
(about 3 days ago). I have a 55 gallon tank (FOWLR/LS). It started out
with one Yellow Striped Maroon Clown and two False Percula Clowns. I added
all three of these fish at the same time. I then bought a larger YSMClown
for my new 30 gallon reef tank. I asked the group if I could put it in with
the other Clowns in the 55 (thinking fry). Most thought it not a good idea
based on the other Clowns in the tank. So I left it in the 30. I then
bought a Blue Tang and put it in the 55 with the other 3 Clowns. Right away
the YSMClown took to hiding and wouldn't eat. This went on for about 3
days. So to save the YSMClown I moved him to the 30 gallon in a breeders
net. After watching for aggression signs for about an hour (none noted) I
turned "him :-) " loose. He swam straight to the larger YSMClown and they
have been a happy couple every since. They've even established a nest that
the male rearranges at his whim. Now for the other side of the coin. I
then went out and purchased two more fish for the 55 gallon tank. I asked
my LFS if they would be ok due to the Blue Tang already being in the tank.
I told him what some folks on here said about Tangs being added last. He
said they would be fine (last time I'll take advice from him). So I put the
Blue Damselfish and the Cardinalfish in the tank. The Blue Tang would swim
right beside the Cardinal (intimidation) but he didn't seem to be hurting
him any. So a few hours later I went to work. When I got home the Cardinal
was in the breeders net. My son (a fish keeper himself at the age of 12)
had put him there because the Tang had started to attack him. The Cardinal
was dead. Now on the other hand the Blue Damselfish (Almost identical in
shape, size, and color to the tang) is alive and well. Him and the Tang
don't go near each other. The two Percula Clowns are all over the tank.
They love everyone and don't seem to have an enemy.

As a side note after the Tang killed the Cardinal it moved on to mess with
the sole hermit crab in the tank. Sit right on top of it I was told. Well
the hermit yelled out "you f*cked with the wrong Marine" and grabbed the
Tang with both pinchers. The wife said it took the son about 10 minutes to
get the Tang loose. I'm not sure if the hermit really yelled that out
though because as I said earlier I was at work. I do know that the Tang now
gives the hermit plenty of space.

So I guess what it all boils down to is that "your results may vary" but the
advice of the group is going to be about the best advice available.

Ed

[Joe V.]

> The answer to your question is that the Tangs aren't likely to get along
> with the new Maroon nor is the Maroon likely to get along with the old
> Clowns. Tangs are pretty violent as are Maroons. Tangs should always be
> added to the tank last as they will establish the tank and all the
critters

I had a maroon clown & zebra tang and they got along fine. However, my
maroon is ignoring my anemone ...

It's possible that my clown is just odd :)

[Adam]

"Joe V." > wrote in message
...
> > The answer to your question is that the Tangs aren't likely to get along
> > with the new Maroon nor is the Maroon likely to get along with the old
> > Clowns. Tangs are pretty violent as are Maroons. Tangs should always
be
> > added to the tank last as they will establish the tank and all the
> critters
>
> I had a maroon clown & zebra tang and they got along fine. However, my
> maroon is ignoring my anemone ...
>
> It's possible that my clown is just odd :)

Like I said "your results may vary" Seems like for every bad situation
someone else has a good one with this stuff. I've yet to buy an anemone but
would like to get one for each of my 4 Clowns. Maybe just one for the
Paired YSMClowns. Anyone know a good source to get these at a good price
and can anyone tell me what kind to get for them? I'd like to get one each
for my perculas (2 in the same tank) and one for my pair of Yellow Striped
Maroons.

Thanks in advance.

Ed