Water drips on rug

[Dick]

I was taking a glass of juice to the dining room table for lunch that
was warming in the microwave, when I noticed drips of water in front
of my 29 gallon Jebo tank. Remember, I panic first and investigate
next.

FEAR!

This is a beautiful tank with corners that are round and the front
has a slight curve to it. It has black trim and sets on a matching
black stand with doors covering the shelves. I have had it 2 years.
Two arrived broken before the vendor changed shippers (UPS got the
tank to me in one piece).

Where was the leak? I wiped the bottom of the tank and more water
appeared. Could it have developed a leak on the tank bottom? Oh,
no!! Then I noticed a bead of water coming down the left rear side
glass. Bad enough to fix, but Oh no. Finally I saw the water was
coming from the top plastic frame. I openned the top which gives
access to the built in filter and saw the problem. The filter media
had gotten dirty enough to dam the water up high enough for the top
lid edge to wick water to the lower side of the tank. To aggravate
the dirty media, I had recently pulled the under water pump which
moves the water to the filter tank. I cleaned the tubes and impellor
bringing the water flow to its maximum.

I don't like cleaning diry media, but I didn't mind today. <g>

dick

[Derek Benson]

On Mon, 06 Jun 2005 13:21:03 -0500, Dick >
wrote:

>I was taking a glass of juice to the dining room table for lunch that
>was warming in the microwave, when I noticed drips of water in front
>of my 29 gallon Jebo tank. Remember, I panic first and investigate
>next.
>
>FEAR!

I never panic over such a thing, how can you be such a wimp? I always
get drips of water or sloshes on the rug in front of the tank. That
is: I'm siphoning the water into the bucket, don't pay enough
attention, the darned bucket overflows onto the floor. Oh well, better
luck next time I say! With no fear or trepidation!

-Derek

[Daniel Morrow]

"Derek Benson" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 06 Jun 2005 13:21:03 -0500, Dick >
> wrote:
>
> >I was taking a glass of juice to the dining room table for lunch that
> >was warming in the microwave, when I noticed drips of water in front
> >of my 29 gallon Jebo tank. Remember, I panic first and investigate
> >next.
> >
> >FEAR!
>
> I never panic over such a thing, how can you be such a wimp? I always
> get drips of water or sloshes on the rug in front of the tank. That
> is: I'm siphoning the water into the bucket, don't pay enough
> attention, the darned bucket overflows onto the floor. Oh well, better
> luck next time I say! With no fear or trepidation!
>
> -Derek

Dick is not a wimp dude.

[NetMax]

"Derek Benson" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 06 Jun 2005 13:21:03 -0500, Dick >
> wrote:
>
>>I was taking a glass of juice to the dining room table for lunch that
>>was warming in the microwave, when I noticed drips of water in front
>>of my 29 gallon Jebo tank. Remember, I panic first and investigate
>>next.
>>
>>FEAR!
>
> I never panic over such a thing, how can you be such a wimp? I always
> get drips of water or sloshes on the rug in front of the tank. That
> is: I'm siphoning the water into the bucket, don't pay enough
> attention, the darned bucket overflows onto the floor. Oh well, better
> luck next time I say! With no fear or trepidation!
>
> -Derek

When I see a trickle of water coming out from under one of my bigger
tanks, I don't panic, but the feeling I get is close ;~).

A few other sources of drips are condensation under a plastic hood, HOB
filter needing maintenance, air pump backed up with water, and leaking
fittings (all preferable to leaking through the silicone).
--
www.NetMax.tk

[Billy]

"Derek Benson" > wrote in message
...
> I never panic over such a thing, how can you be such a wimp? I
> always
> get drips of water or sloshes on the rug in front of the tank. That
> is: I'm siphoning the water into the bucket, don't pay enough
> attention, the darned bucket overflows onto the floor. Oh well,
> better
> luck next time I say! With no fear or trepidation!
>


My my. With the amount of work and money that could be involved when
faced with the possibility of imminent tank failure and subsequent
emergency tank tear-down, particularly a large tank, of which have 2,
fear and a mote of panic are rather natural responses in my opinion.
Just a suggestion, but on USENET, unless you wish to be
ostracized as a troll, avoid making a post that contains anything you
wouldn't say to a person standing face to face with you, who also
happens to be larger than you, is foul-tempered, and is heavily
armed. I guarantee, if you use this mental image before clicking
'send', things go much better for you in the long run. :)

billy

[Dick]

On Mon, 06 Jun 2005 20:34:06 +0200, Derek Benson >
wrote:

>On Mon, 06 Jun 2005 13:21:03 -0500, Dick >
>wrote:
>
>>I was taking a glass of juice to the dining room table for lunch that
>>was warming in the microwave, when I noticed drips of water in front
>>of my 29 gallon Jebo tank. Remember, I panic first and investigate
>>next.
>>
>>FEAR!
>
>I never panic over such a thing, how can you be such a wimp? I always
>get drips of water or sloshes on the rug in front of the tank. That
>is: I'm siphoning the water into the bucket, don't pay enough
>attention, the darned bucket overflows onto the floor. Oh well, better
>luck next time I say! With no fear or trepidation!
>
>-Derek

If I saw that the drips were coming from my bucket I would just worry
that the rug might get damaged, but not knowing where the water was
coming from and also noticing that the water level was low sure
brought out the wimp in me.

I do not recomment "wimping" to anyone, it is just part of my nature.
I recall playing baseball in elementary school always being afraid to
catch a grounder. I was so aware of the potential bounce hitting me
and not my glove! Wimps of the world rise up and be counted!

dick

[Dick]

On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 18:24:53 -0700, "Billy" >
wrote:

>
>
>
>"Derek Benson" > wrote in message
...
>> I never panic over such a thing, how can you be such a wimp? I
>> always
>> get drips of water or sloshes on the rug in front of the tank. That
>> is: I'm siphoning the water into the bucket, don't pay enough
>> attention, the darned bucket overflows onto the floor. Oh well,
>> better
>> luck next time I say! With no fear or trepidation!
>>
>
>
>My my. With the amount of work and money that could be involved when
>faced with the possibility of imminent tank failure and subsequent
>emergency tank tear-down, particularly a large tank, of which have 2,
>fear and a mote of panic are rather natural responses in my opinion.
> Just a suggestion, but on USENET, unless you wish to be
>ostracized as a troll, avoid making a post that contains anything you
>wouldn't say to a person standing face to face with you, who also
>happens to be larger than you, is foul-tempered, and is heavily
>armed. I guarantee, if you use this mental image before clicking
>'send', things go much better for you in the long run. :)
>
>billy
>

But Billy, isn't it nice that one can be free on Usenet to speak
freely? Besides there is truth in what Derek says. I do panic
easily. Don't know anyway to change, but at least I can accept and
laugh when others see it.

dick

[Dick]

On Mon, 06 Jun 2005 20:34:06 +0200, Derek Benson >
wrote:

>On Mon, 06 Jun 2005 13:21:03 -0500, Dick >
>wrote:
>
>>I was taking a glass of juice to the dining room table for lunch that
>>was warming in the microwave, when I noticed drips of water in front
>>of my 29 gallon Jebo tank. Remember, I panic first and investigate
>>next.
>>
>>FEAR!
>
>I never panic over such a thing, how can you be such a wimp? I always
>get drips of water or sloshes on the rug in front of the tank. That
>is: I'm siphoning the water into the bucket, don't pay enough
>attention, the darned bucket overflows onto the floor. Oh well, better
>luck next time I say! With no fear or trepidation!
>
>-Derek

I am a life long wimp Derek. It can be a handicap, but the important
thing, to me, is my ability to go past the fear and solve the problem.
I can't change my initial fear, but it hasn't stopped me from doing
what needs to be done. Count your blessings that you can start with
enthusiasm.

dick

[Derek Benson]

On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 18:24:53 -0700, "Billy" >
wrote:

>"Derek Benson" > wrote in message
...
>> I never panic over such a thing, how can you be such a wimp? I
>> always
>> get drips of water or sloshes on the rug in front of the tank. That
>> is: I'm siphoning the water into the bucket, don't pay enough
>> attention, the darned bucket overflows onto the floor. Oh well,
>> better
>> luck next time I say! With no fear or trepidation!
>>
>My my. With the amount of work and money that could be involved when
>faced with the possibility of imminent tank failure and subsequent
>emergency tank tear-down, particularly a large tank, of which have 2,
>fear and a mote of panic are rather natural responses in my opinion.
> Just a suggestion, but on USENET, unless you wish to be
>ostracized as a troll, avoid making a post that contains anything you
>wouldn't say to a person standing face to face with you, who also
>happens to be larger than you, is foul-tempered, and is heavily
>armed. I guarantee, if you use this mental image before clicking
>'send', things go much better for you in the long run. :)
>
>billy
>
Hello?! Does anyone around here recognize humor when they read it? It
was a joke, kidding around. This wasn't obvious?

-Derek

[Steve]

Derek Benson wrote:

>
> Hello?! Does anyone around here recognize humor when they read it? It
> was a joke, kidding around. This wasn't obvious?
>
> -Derek

One of my first posts to Usenet was several years ago, to a goldfish
group. Someone had posted a message asking how to set up siamese
fighting fish fights, and I responded as follows.

I posted a passage from W.T. Innes' Exotic Aquarium Fishes, where he
quoted "inaccuracies and absurdities" found about bettas in the
literature, as follows.
"The fighting fish are about the size of goldfish. You catch one and put
it in a bottle. Your neighbour does likewise. You put your bottle close
to your neighbour's. Your fish becomes enraged. So does your neighbour's
fish. They both flash all colours of the rainbow. They swell up. You bet
on your fish. Your friends back you. After a time one fish, hurling
itself against the glass in a vain effort to reach its adversary,
becomes so angry that it literally bursts. If it is your neighbour's
fish that bursts, you win. If it is yours, you lose."

I did not explain where the passage came from, and numerous posters
denounced me for cruelty, and for telling the original poster how to set
up betta fighting matches! Eventually, I was denounced as a "troll".
No-one caught the humor or inaccuracy of the above passage, nor did
anyone recognize the source of the quote. That's despite W.T. Innes'
book being a standard aquarium refence for 40-50 years.

So subtle humor seems not to work on Usenet!
Steve

[lgb]

In article >,
says...
>
> When I see a trickle of water coming out from under one of my bigger
> tanks, I don't panic, but the feeling I get is close ;~).
>
I'm building an entertainment center one part of which will be an
aquarium cabinet/stand. Since it'll be in the living room, on the new
carpet, I was a little concerned about leaks.

So the top will be recessed an inch or two with a hole for water to
escape through - into a plastic waste container with a water alarm
setting in it.

Aside from catastrophic breakage, or a leak occurring while we're on
vacation, I think I'm covered.

--
BNSF = Build Now, Seep Forever

[Ionizer]

"Billy" > wrote in message
...
> Just a suggestion, but on USENET, unless you wish to be ostracized
> as a troll, avoid making a post that contains anything you wouldn't
> say to a person standing face to face with you, who also happens to be
> larger than you, is foul-tempered, and is heavily armed. I guarantee,
> if you use this mental image before clicking 'send', things go much
> better for you in the long run. :)

I think I've always done quite the opposite of this. I've assumed, and
to a very great extent I'm quite correct, that nobody knows exactly who
or exactly where I am when I post to Usenet. Despite this veil of
relative anonymity, I've always just remained aware that *I* know who I
am, so I've posted in a way that I can remain as true to myself in
Cyberspace as I am in real life. And perhaps even more so than in real
life, because I don't need to be concerned about being randomly punched
out by some "foul tempered" person who just happened to misinterpret or
misunderstand me for a moment.

Regards,
Ian.
(Now Playing: Real To Me - Dez Dickerson)

[NetMax]

"lgb" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> says...
>>
>> When I see a trickle of water coming out from under one of my bigger
>> tanks, I don't panic, but the feeling I get is close ;~).
>>
> I'm building an entertainment center one part of which will be an
> aquarium cabinet/stand. Since it'll be in the living room, on the new
> carpet, I was a little concerned about leaks.
>
> So the top will be recessed an inch or two with a hole for water to
> escape through - into a plastic waste container with a water alarm
> setting in it.
>
> Aside from catastrophic breakage, or a leak occurring while we're on
> vacation, I think I'm covered.
>
> --
> BNSF = Build Now, Seep Forever

I start a build-in aquarium with a square plastic tub, which will hold
all my canister filters. It is easier to build your wooden unit around
known dimensions than later trying to find a plastic container which
fits. The shelf which holds the tank has a raised front edge (hides the
plastic trim and some of the gravel). In the event of a leak, the water
should find its way around to the back of the shelf where I have drilled
large holes for the canister hoses. The water should wick down the hoses
to the plastic tub. My system has been tested periodically for small
spills (typically from working on the filters).
--
www.NetMax.tk

[winddancir]

"The fighting fish are about the size of goldfish. You catch one and put it in a bottle. Your neighbour does likewise. You put your bottle close
to your neighbour's. Your fish becomes enraged. So does your neighbour's
fish. They both flash all colours of the rainbow. They swell up. You bet
on your fish. Your friends back you. After a time one fish, hurling
itself against the glass in a vain effort to reach its adversary,
becomes so angry that it literally bursts. If it is your neighbour's
fish that bursts, you win. If it is yours, you lose."
Steve, that one is soo funny! I would have caught it in a second! Though somtimes I think my CT boy Ice might try to explode if it would help him try to kill the picture on the Hikari betta food package!

[Billy]

"Dick" > wrote in message
...
>
> But Billy, isn't it nice that one can be free on Usenet to speak
> freely?

Very true! However, there is a difference in speaking freely and just
being ill-tempered. <g>

[Billy]

"Steve" > wrote in message
.. .
> So subtle humor seems not to work on Usenet!
> Steve

Subtlety is easily lost in plain text. :)

[Daniel Morrow]

"Billy" > wrote in message
...
>
>
>
> "Steve" > wrote in message
> .. .
> > So subtle humor seems not to work on Usenet!
> > Steve
>
> Subtlety is easily lost in plain text. :)
>
>

Subtle humor does work on usenet if used properly. I wouldn't have taken
derek's comment the wrong way if he had put a smiley face in there (like
this - :-)) or something similar. Later!

[Ross Vandegrift]

On 2005-06-07, Steve > wrote:
> So subtle humor seems not to work on Usenet!

You must be new around here....


--
Ross Vandegrift

"The good Christian should beware of mathematicians, and all those who
make empty prophecies. The danger already exists that the mathematicians
have made a covenant with the devil to darken the spirit and to confine
man in the bonds of Hell."
--St. Augustine, De Genesi ad Litteram, Book II, xviii, 37

[Dick]

On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 16:42:38 +0200, Derek Benson >
wrote:

>On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 18:24:53 -0700, "Billy" >
>wrote:
>
>>"Derek Benson" > wrote in message
...
>>> I never panic over such a thing, how can you be such a wimp? I
>>> always
>>> get drips of water or sloshes on the rug in front of the tank. That
>>> is: I'm siphoning the water into the bucket, don't pay enough
>>> attention, the darned bucket overflows onto the floor. Oh well,
>>> better
>>> luck next time I say! With no fear or trepidation!
>>>
>>My my. With the amount of work and money that could be involved when
>>faced with the possibility of imminent tank failure and subsequent
>>emergency tank tear-down, particularly a large tank, of which have 2,
>>fear and a mote of panic are rather natural responses in my opinion.
>> Just a suggestion, but on USENET, unless you wish to be
>>ostracized as a troll, avoid making a post that contains anything you
>>wouldn't say to a person standing face to face with you, who also
>>happens to be larger than you, is foul-tempered, and is heavily
>>armed. I guarantee, if you use this mental image before clicking
>>'send', things go much better for you in the long run. :)
>>
>>billy
>>
>Hello?! Does anyone around here recognize humor when they read it? It
>was a joke, kidding around. This wasn't obvious?
>
>-Derek

Not to me Derek, I checked some of your other posts and thought I
noticed a sharpness in some of them. I was wishing I had asked why it
bothered you that I was a "wimp." I sometimes get reactions that I
don't expect, someone seeing a serious comment in what I thought was
funny. Now, I try to add the happy face :-) or a grin <g> if I fear
misunderstanding. I even have to sometimes "I was just joking" in
face to face conversation. I think part of the problem with "joking"
lies in the nature of what makes a joke funny. Usually someone is a
"victim" such as in the pratfall or being the one to get the "pie in
the face." I was in Mexico city one time and trying to talk in
Spanish with some school boys that had just left school. They wanted
to try their english and I wanted to try my Spanish. I don't recall
what left me with this impression, but I know that I have a firm
impression that it is very hard to joke around in alternate languages
until you a) know the language very well (and local customs) b) know
the listener pretty well. Joking is not a funny business! <g>

An interesting, sort of related incident while we were in the park.
An old policemen came over and in rapid spanish told the youths that
if I wanted to "teach" they should hire a hall, but not be using the
community park. After he left, one of the students exclaimed that the
government should fire all the old policemen. I responded that that
didn't seem fair and the old guy was just saying what he thought was
right. The student thought about what I said, the said, "ah, caba
cabeza es un mundo!" which translates, "each head is a world!"
This too has stuck in my file of thoughts to remember.

dick

[Dick]

On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 10:59:12 -0400, Steve > wrote:

>Derek Benson wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello?! Does anyone around here recognize humor when they read it? It
>> was a joke, kidding around. This wasn't obvious?
>>
>> -Derek
>
>One of my first posts to Usenet was several years ago, to a goldfish
>group. Someone had posted a message asking how to set up siamese
>fighting fish fights, and I responded as follows.
>
>I posted a passage from W.T. Innes' Exotic Aquarium Fishes, where he
>quoted "inaccuracies and absurdities" found about bettas in the
>literature, as follows.
>"The fighting fish are about the size of goldfish. You catch one and put
>it in a bottle. Your neighbour does likewise. You put your bottle close
>to your neighbour's. Your fish becomes enraged. So does your neighbour's
>fish. They both flash all colours of the rainbow. They swell up. You bet
>on your fish. Your friends back you. After a time one fish, hurling
>itself against the glass in a vain effort to reach its adversary,
>becomes so angry that it literally bursts. If it is your neighbour's
>fish that bursts, you win. If it is yours, you lose."
>
>I did not explain where the passage came from, and numerous posters
>denounced me for cruelty, and for telling the original poster how to set
>up betta fighting matches! Eventually, I was denounced as a "troll".
>No-one caught the humor or inaccuracy of the above passage, nor did
>anyone recognize the source of the quote. That's despite W.T. Innes'
>book being a standard aquarium refence for 40-50 years.
>
>So subtle humor seems not to work on Usenet!
>Steve

I find humor to be one of the most difficult things to share. I try
to warn readers with a happy face or a grin <g>. Face to face we can
grin and hope the listener is paying attention. Just part of the
difficulty of sharing our inner feelings with outsiders.

dick

[Dick]

On Wed, 08 Jun 2005 01:24:42 -0500, Ross Vandegrift
> wrote:

>On 2005-06-07, Steve > wrote:
>> So subtle humor seems not to work on Usenet!
>
>You must be new around here....

I miss your intention Ross. But, I guess that is the current point of
discussion.

dick

[Gill Passman]

"Dick" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 06 Jun 2005 20:34:06 +0200, Derek Benson >
> wrote:
>
> >On Mon, 06 Jun 2005 13:21:03 -0500, Dick >
> >wrote:
> >
> >>I was taking a glass of juice to the dining room table for lunch that
> >>was warming in the microwave, when I noticed drips of water in front
> >>of my 29 gallon Jebo tank. Remember, I panic first and investigate
> >>next.
> >>
> >>FEAR!
> >
> >I never panic over such a thing, how can you be such a wimp? I always
> >get drips of water or sloshes on the rug in front of the tank. That
> >is: I'm siphoning the water into the bucket, don't pay enough
> >attention, the darned bucket overflows onto the floor. Oh well, better
> >luck next time I say! With no fear or trepidation!
> >
> >-Derek
>
> If I saw that the drips were coming from my bucket I would just worry
> that the rug might get damaged, but not knowing where the water was
> coming from and also noticing that the water level was low sure
> brought out the wimp in me.
>
> I do not recomment "wimping" to anyone, it is just part of my nature.
> I recall playing baseball in elementary school always being afraid to
> catch a grounder. I was so aware of the potential bounce hitting me
> and not my glove! Wimps of the world rise up and be counted!
>
> dick

Maybe we should get a definition of the word "wimp" here - lol. It doesn't
strike me that you fit any of the behaviour I would attribute to
wimpishness.

Now I "wimped" out today out of driving to work having taken 90 minutes to
travel 10 miles with another 15 to go and no sign of a let up in the
traffic - but I did very bravely phone my boss and tell him I was going to
work from home. Others might define that as sensible behaviour - I think it
was me being a wimp.

I managed to take the Rusty Cichlid back to the LFS today (coz I was working
from home) but wimped out of getting anything other than a thermometer in
exchange (and he will sell her again for £8) - again me being a wimp.

But other people's perception of me is that I can be "scary" and that I am
very self-confident......but I know better - he, he

I'm pretty sure that if I found an unexplained wet patch near any of my
tanks my intial reaction would be panic. And then, just like you, I would
deal with it...(or get hubby to do it)

Gill

[NetMax]

"Dick" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 08 Jun 2005 01:24:42 -0500, Ross Vandegrift
> > wrote:
>
>>On 2005-06-07, Steve > wrote:
>>> So subtle humor seems not to work on Usenet!
>>
>>You must be new around here....
>
> I miss your intention Ross. But, I guess that is the current point of
> discussion.
>
> dick

LOL and I don't even know if Dick was *trying* to be funny.

Subtle humour relies heavily on the listener knowing something about the
speaker's mannerisms, which is why in a newsgroup format, it loses its
universality.
--
www.NetMax.tk

[Sylvan Butler]

On Tue, 7 Jun 2005 21:15:07 -0700, Daniel Morrow > wrote:
> "Billy" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Steve" > wrote in message
>> .. .
>> > So subtle humor seems not to work on Usenet!
>> > Steve
>>
>> Subtlety is easily lost in plain text. :)

Exactly!

> Subtle humor does work on usenet if used properly. I wouldn't have taken
> derek's comment the wrong way if he had put a smiley face in there (like
> this - :-)) or something similar. Later!

See subtle in any dictionary. See blatent. If I would be telling you
straight face, I'm sure not going be putting a smiley in text.

sdb

--
Wanted: Omnibook 800 & accessories, cheap, working or not
sdbuse1 on mailhost bigfoot.com

[Ross Vandegrift]

On 2005-06-08, Dick > wrote:
> On Wed, 08 Jun 2005 01:24:42 -0500, Ross Vandegrift
> wrote:
>>You must be new around here....
>
> I miss your intention Ross. But, I guess that is the current point of
> discussion.

Perhaps too subtle of a joke ::-)

I intentionally left the smile off to make a point, I guess. Or rather,
to make the joke funnier to me!

--
Ross Vandegrift

"The good Christian should beware of mathematicians, and all those who
make empty prophecies. The danger already exists that the mathematicians
have made a covenant with the devil to darken the spirit and to confine
man in the bonds of Hell."
--St. Augustine, De Genesi ad Litteram, Book II, xviii, 37

[Dick]

On Wed, 8 Jun 2005 17:46:03 +0100, "Gill Passman"
<gillspamattaylorpassmanspam.co.uk> wrote:

>
>"Dick" > wrote in message
...
>> On Mon, 06 Jun 2005 20:34:06 +0200, Derek Benson >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Mon, 06 Jun 2005 13:21:03 -0500, Dick >
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >>I was taking a glass of juice to the dining room table for lunch that
>> >>was warming in the microwave, when I noticed drips of water in front
>> >>of my 29 gallon Jebo tank. Remember, I panic first and investigate
>> >>next.
>> >>
>> >>FEAR!
>> >
>> >I never panic over such a thing, how can you be such a wimp? I always
>> >get drips of water or sloshes on the rug in front of the tank. That
>> >is: I'm siphoning the water into the bucket, don't pay enough
>> >attention, the darned bucket overflows onto the floor. Oh well, better
>> >luck next time I say! With no fear or trepidation!
>> >
>> >-Derek
>>
>> If I saw that the drips were coming from my bucket I would just worry
>> that the rug might get damaged, but not knowing where the water was
>> coming from and also noticing that the water level was low sure
>> brought out the wimp in me.
>>
>> I do not recomment "wimping" to anyone, it is just part of my nature.
>> I recall playing baseball in elementary school always being afraid to
>> catch a grounder. I was so aware of the potential bounce hitting me
>> and not my glove! Wimps of the world rise up and be counted!
>>
>> dick
>
>Maybe we should get a definition of the word "wimp" here - lol. It doesn't
>strike me that you fit any of the behaviour I would attribute to
>wimpishness.
>
>Now I "wimped" out today out of driving to work having taken 90 minutes to
>travel 10 miles with another 15 to go and no sign of a let up in the
>traffic - but I did very bravely phone my boss and tell him I was going to
>work from home. Others might define that as sensible behaviour - I think it
>was me being a wimp.
>
>I managed to take the Rusty Cichlid back to the LFS today (coz I was working
>from home) but wimped out of getting anything other than a thermometer in
>exchange (and he will sell her again for £8) - again me being a wimp.
>
>But other people's perception of me is that I can be "scary" and that I am
>very self-confident......but I know better - he, he
>
>I'm pretty sure that if I found an unexplained wet patch near any of my
>tanks my intial reaction would be panic. And then, just like you, I would
>deal with it...(or get hubby to do it)
>
>Gill
>
>
You bring up such an important point about words. I am convinced we
don't think with words. I think we all share a "natural" brain
language to form our thoughts, then have to find the words which will
contain those thoughts. How else could I be explaining something and
have to stop to find the right word?

To the point of how I use "wimp." For me, every problem is loaded
with a feeling of fear, "I will never be able to solve this problem."
It is a terrible way to solve a problem. It can be so bad my hands
shake. Can you imagine trying to unscrew a screw with shaking hands?
So, for me, fear is the important ingredient to say I am a wimp. Of
course, I always manage to solve my problems, I remind myself of this
fact to give me the energy to move forward. After getting into the
problem and feeling progress my mood shifts to enthusiasm. I do envy
those that start with "fight" rather than "flight."

I understand the persona others see is not what I see. "Crying on the
inside, laughing on the outside" comes to mind.

Now I have trouble with your use of the word Gill. Leaving heavy
traffic to return home and calling the boss to inform him where I will
be, seems quite rational as is choosing the best buy rather than the
most expensive. So, I would not understand what you mean using wimp
as I mean it.

I know this is a strange thread for an "aquaria" newsgroup, but
sticking strictly to technical questions avoids the human feelings
that get us into this hobby in the first place, not to mention how we
approach the problems associated with the hobby.

dick

[Gill Passman]

"Dick" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 8 Jun 2005 17:46:03 +0100, "Gill Passman"
> <gillspamattaylorpassmanspam.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Dick" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> On Mon, 06 Jun 2005 20:34:06 +0200, Derek Benson >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Mon, 06 Jun 2005 13:21:03 -0500, Dick >
> >> >wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>I was taking a glass of juice to the dining room table for lunch that
> >> >>was warming in the microwave, when I noticed drips of water in front
> >> >>of my 29 gallon Jebo tank. Remember, I panic first and investigate
> >> >>next.
> >> >>
> >> >>FEAR!
> >> >
> >> >I never panic over such a thing, how can you be such a wimp? I always
> >> >get drips of water or sloshes on the rug in front of the tank. That
> >> >is: I'm siphoning the water into the bucket, don't pay enough
> >> >attention, the darned bucket overflows onto the floor. Oh well, better
> >> >luck next time I say! With no fear or trepidation!
> >> >
> >> >-Derek
> >>
> >> If I saw that the drips were coming from my bucket I would just worry
> >> that the rug might get damaged, but not knowing where the water was
> >> coming from and also noticing that the water level was low sure
> >> brought out the wimp in me.
> >>
> >> I do not recomment "wimping" to anyone, it is just part of my nature.
> >> I recall playing baseball in elementary school always being afraid to
> >> catch a grounder. I was so aware of the potential bounce hitting me
> >> and not my glove! Wimps of the world rise up and be counted!
> >>
> >> dick
> >
> >Maybe we should get a definition of the word "wimp" here - lol. It
doesn't
> >strike me that you fit any of the behaviour I would attribute to
> >wimpishness.
> >
> >Now I "wimped" out today out of driving to work having taken 90 minutes
to
> >travel 10 miles with another 15 to go and no sign of a let up in the
> >traffic - but I did very bravely phone my boss and tell him I was going
to
> >work from home. Others might define that as sensible behaviour - I think
it
> >was me being a wimp.
> >
> >I managed to take the Rusty Cichlid back to the LFS today (coz I was
working
> >from home) but wimped out of getting anything other than a thermometer in
> >exchange (and he will sell her again for £8) - again me being a wimp.
> >
> >But other people's perception of me is that I can be "scary" and that I
am
> >very self-confident......but I know better - he, he
> >
> >I'm pretty sure that if I found an unexplained wet patch near any of my
> >tanks my intial reaction would be panic. And then, just like you, I would
> >deal with it...(or get hubby to do it)
> >
> >Gill
> >
> >
> You bring up such an important point about words. I am convinced we
> don't think with words. I think we all share a "natural" brain
> language to form our thoughts, then have to find the words which will
> contain those thoughts. How else could I be explaining something and
> have to stop to find the right word?
>
> To the point of how I use "wimp." For me, every problem is loaded
> with a feeling of fear, "I will never be able to solve this problem."
> It is a terrible way to solve a problem. It can be so bad my hands
> shake. Can you imagine trying to unscrew a screw with shaking hands?
> So, for me, fear is the important ingredient to say I am a wimp. Of
> course, I always manage to solve my problems, I remind myself of this
> fact to give me the energy to move forward. After getting into the
> problem and feeling progress my mood shifts to enthusiasm. I do envy
> those that start with "fight" rather than "flight."
>
> I understand the persona others see is not what I see. "Crying on the
> inside, laughing on the outside" comes to mind.
>
> Now I have trouble with your use of the word Gill. Leaving heavy
> traffic to return home and calling the boss to inform him where I will
> be, seems quite rational as is choosing the best buy rather than the
> most expensive. So, I would not understand what you mean using wimp
> as I mean it.
>
> I know this is a strange thread for an "aquaria" newsgroup, but
> sticking strictly to technical questions avoids the human feelings
> that get us into this hobby in the first place, not to mention how we
> approach the problems associated with the hobby.
>
> dick
>

Maybe this is another instance of the Americans and the English being
"separated by a common language" - lol

I always find it quite fascinating how I can say something quite normal and
easily understood by an English person but yet I say the same thing to one
of my American colleagues and they take it another way.....however over the
years they have got used to me and my foibles and I to theirs :-)

[NetMax]

"Gill Passman" <gillspamattaylorpassmanspam.co.uk> wrote in message
.. .
>
> "Dick" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Wed, 8 Jun 2005 17:46:03 +0100, "Gill Passman"
>> <gillspamattaylorpassmanspam.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Dick" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >> On Mon, 06 Jun 2005 20:34:06 +0200, Derek Benson >
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Mon, 06 Jun 2005 13:21:03 -0500, Dick
>> >> >
>> >> >wrote:
<snip>

>> You bring up such an important point about words. I am convinced we
>> don't think with words. I think we all share a "natural" brain
>> language to form our thoughts, then have to find the words which will
>> contain those thoughts. How else could I be explaining something and
>> have to stop to find the right word?
>>
>> To the point of how I use "wimp." For me, every problem is loaded
>> with a feeling of fear, "I will never be able to solve this problem."
>> It is a terrible way to solve a problem. It can be so bad my hands
>> shake. Can you imagine trying to unscrew a screw with shaking hands?
>> So, for me, fear is the important ingredient to say I am a wimp. Of
>> course, I always manage to solve my problems, I remind myself of this
>> fact to give me the energy to move forward. After getting into the
>> problem and feeling progress my mood shifts to enthusiasm. I do envy
>> those that start with "fight" rather than "flight."
>>
>> I understand the persona others see is not what I see. "Crying on the
>> inside, laughing on the outside" comes to mind.
>>
>> Now I have trouble with your use of the word Gill. Leaving heavy
>> traffic to return home and calling the boss to inform him where I will
>> be, seems quite rational as is choosing the best buy rather than the
>> most expensive. So, I would not understand what you mean using wimp
>> as I mean it.
>>
>> I know this is a strange thread for an "aquaria" newsgroup, but
>> sticking strictly to technical questions avoids the human feelings
>> that get us into this hobby in the first place, not to mention how we
>> approach the problems associated with the hobby.
>>
>> dick
>>
>
> Maybe this is another instance of the Americans and the English being
> "separated by a common language" - lol
>
> I always find it quite fascinating how I can say something quite normal
> and
> easily understood by an English person but yet I say the same thing to
> one
> of my American colleagues and they take it another way.....however over
> the
> years they have got used to me and my foibles and I to theirs :-)


Foibles? *sound of dictionary pages turning* ahh, oops, then the love of
English wordsmithing might be one of my 'foibles' :-).
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