Yoyo Loach foods

[Bill Stock]

I've been feeding the new crew a few dried Blood Worms, along with the
regular supply of algae they harvest. The Barbs (Tiger and Gold) seem to go
crazy for these things, but the Loach seems happy to munch on the algae. I
thought the Loach was supposed to prefer Blood Worms?

[Victor Martinez]

Bill Stock wrote:
> crazy for these things, but the Loach seems happy to munch on the algae. I
> thought the Loach was supposed to prefer Blood Worms?

Yeah, but the dried stuff is not as yummy as the frozen one. Try that... :)

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[NetMax]

"Bill Stock" > wrote in message
...
> I've been feeding the new crew a few dried Blood Worms, along with the
> regular supply of algae they harvest. The Barbs (Tiger and Gold) seem
> to go crazy for these things, but the Loach seems happy to munch on the
> algae. I thought the Loach was supposed to prefer Blood Worms?


Definitely! I've never seen my Yoyo eat algae, but he will gregariously
eat anything else which does not move too fast ;~).

New fish will rarely behave normal, in terms of where & how they swim,
what they eat etc. Let them settle in. Also if fish have not been
exposed to a particular type of food, hold back their feedings for a day
or two, to develop their curiosity. Also try to feed a variety.

Watch the Yoyos belly to ensure it remains even or slightly protruding.
That way you know something is being consumed.

ps: barbs *will* eat veggies and are known to munch certain types of
algae, so go figure.
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[HairyMcLeary]

"Bill Stock" > wrote in message
...
> I've been feeding the new crew a few dried Blood Worms, along with the
> regular supply of algae they harvest. The Barbs (Tiger and Gold) seem to
> go crazy for these things, but the Loach seems happy to munch on the
> algae. I thought the Loach was supposed to prefer Blood Worms?
>
If my dried blood worms float on the surface the Yoyo's won't touch them.
Mine like shrimp pellets as well as the Bristlenose's Algae wafers... and
any other food that makes it to the bottom!I have never seen any of mine
take food from above the bottom of the tank.

Tony

[Bill Stock]

"HairyMcLeary" > wrote in message
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>
> "Bill Stock" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I've been feeding the new crew a few dried Blood Worms, along with the
>> regular supply of algae they harvest. The Barbs (Tiger and Gold) seem to
>> go crazy for these things, but the Loach seems happy to munch on the
>> algae. I thought the Loach was supposed to prefer Blood Worms?
>>
> If my dried blood worms float on the surface the Yoyo's won't touch them.
> Mine like shrimp pellets as well as the Bristlenose's Algae wafers... and
> any other food that makes it to the bottom!I have never seen any of mine
> take food from above the bottom of the tank.
>
> Tony

Thanks, Fish Profiles indicated they would come up for the food. I guess
they lied. :) I'll try some Shrimp bits.

How many do you have? The LFS only had one, so I'll be looking for some
friends for him.

[Bill Stock]

"Victor Martinez" > wrote in message
...
> Bill Stock wrote:
>> crazy for these things, but the Loach seems happy to munch on the algae.
>> I thought the Loach was supposed to prefer Blood Worms?
>
> Yeah, but the dried stuff is not as yummy as the frozen one. Try that...
> :)

Hi Victor,

I've got some frozen ones for the GF. But they caused a bad outbreak of BGA
last time I used them.


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[Bill Stock]

"NetMax" > wrote in message
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> "Bill Stock" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I've been feeding the new crew a few dried Blood Worms, along with the
>> regular supply of algae they harvest. The Barbs (Tiger and Gold) seem to
>> go crazy for these things, but the Loach seems happy to munch on the
>> algae. I thought the Loach was supposed to prefer Blood Worms?
>
>
> Definitely! I've never seen my Yoyo eat algae, but he will gregariously
> eat anything else which does not move too fast ;~).

He's disappeared for the moment. I'm too sure where he hides out. Will Yoyos
do better in a small group? The LFS only had one.

> New fish will rarely behave normal, in terms of where & how they swim,
> what they eat etc. Let them settle in. Also if fish have not been
> exposed to a particular type of food, hold back their feedings for a day
> or two, to develop their curiosity. Also try to feed a variety.

They've been in there a few days now. I just added a second batch tonight as
the Barbs weren't schooling very well. I now have 6 Gold and 6 Tiger Barbs.
Of course now they've decided to school together as one big (12) group,
whereas they wouldn't associate before. I'm up to 8 Cardinal Tetras now,
but I'd like to double that again I think.

> Watch the Yoyos belly to ensure it remains even or slightly protruding.
> That way you know something is being consumed.
>
> ps: barbs *will* eat veggies and are known to munch certain types of
> algae, so go figure.

I picked up some Veggie flakes tonight, so I can determine the preferred
foods.

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>

[Victor Martinez]

Bill Stock wrote:
> I've got some frozen ones for the GF. But they caused a bad outbreak of BGA
> last time I used them.

You fed too much?

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[Andy Hill]

"Bill Stock" > wrote:
> Will Yoyos do better in a small group? The LFS only had one.
>
Yeah, yoyos prefer a bit of company. Three or four is a good number, if you
have room.

[Andy Hill]

"Bill Stock" > wrote:
>"HairyMcLeary" > wrote in message
>> If my dried blood worms float on the surface the Yoyo's won't touch them.
>> Mine like shrimp pellets as well as the Bristlenose's Algae wafers... and
>> any other food that makes it to the bottom!I have never seen any of mine
>> take food from above the bottom of the tank.
>>
>Thanks, Fish Profiles indicated they would come up for the food. I guess
>they lied. :) I'll try some Shrimp bits.
>
OTOH, my yoyos are perfectly happy to eat at the surface. They're loud, too --
sounds like someone snapping their fingers when they start "slurping".

[Elaine T]

HairyMcLeary wrote:
> "Bill Stock" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>I've been feeding the new crew a few dried Blood Worms, along with the
>>regular supply of algae they harvest. The Barbs (Tiger and Gold) seem to
>>go crazy for these things, but the Loach seems happy to munch on the
>>algae. I thought the Loach was supposed to prefer Blood Worms?
>>
>
> If my dried blood worms float on the surface the Yoyo's won't touch them.
> Mine like shrimp pellets as well as the Bristlenose's Algae wafers... and
> any other food that makes it to the bottom!I have never seen any of mine
> take food from above the bottom of the tank.
>
> Tony
>
>
My pygmy chained loach eats flake food at the surface with a great
splashing about and clicking noises. It's pretty funny to watch.

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[Gill Passman]

"Elaine T" > wrote in message
om...
> HairyMcLeary wrote:
> > "Bill Stock" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> >>I've been feeding the new crew a few dried Blood Worms, along with the
> >>regular supply of algae they harvest. The Barbs (Tiger and Gold) seem to
> >>go crazy for these things, but the Loach seems happy to munch on the
> >>algae. I thought the Loach was supposed to prefer Blood Worms?
> >>
> >
> > If my dried blood worms float on the surface the Yoyo's won't touch
them.
> > Mine like shrimp pellets as well as the Bristlenose's Algae wafers...
and
> > any other food that makes it to the bottom!I have never seen any of mine
> > take food from above the bottom of the tank.
> >
> > Tony
> >
> >
> My pygmy chained loach eats flake food at the surface with a great
> splashing about and clicking noises. It's pretty funny to watch.
>
> --
> Elaine T __
> http://eethomp.com/fish.html <'__><
> rec.aquaria.* FAQ http://faq.thekrib.com

My Clowns hoover everything up off the surface before going down to get any
treats at the bottom of the tank....fortunately the top feeders also join
them at the bottom of the tank to feed - otherwise they might end up with
nothing to eat and the Clowns would just be fatter :-)

[Bill Stock]

"Andy Hill" > wrote in message
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> "Bill Stock" > wrote:
>>"HairyMcLeary" > wrote in message
>>> If my dried blood worms float on the surface the Yoyo's won't touch
>>> them.
>>> Mine like shrimp pellets as well as the Bristlenose's Algae wafers...
>>> and
>>> any other food that makes it to the bottom!I have never seen any of mine
>>> take food from above the bottom of the tank.
>>>
>>Thanks, Fish Profiles indicated they would come up for the food. I guess
>>they lied. :) I'll try some Shrimp bits.
>>
> OTOH, my yoyos are perfectly happy to eat at the surface. They're loud,
> too --
> sounds like someone snapping their fingers when they start "slurping".

My Loach must be mentally challenged. I put a few frozen Blood Worms in the
tank tonight and the Barbs had a feeding frenzy, but he just kept cruising
the bottom. So I thought I would dump enough in to keep the Barbs busy,
while some BW had a chance to sink to the bottom. Well the Barbs just got
extra busy, trying to eat four worms at once. One greedy guy got his booty
and went over to hide behind the filter to gorge on his feast. Even the
Tetra's were having fun, eating BW longer than they are. There might have
been 1 or two worms that actually made it to the bottom, but the Loach did
not seem interested.

???

Perhaps a sinking Algae wafer would tickle his fancy.

[NetMax]

"Andy Hill" > wrote in message
...
> "Bill Stock" > wrote:
>> Will Yoyos do better in a small group? The LFS only had one.
>>
> Yeah, yoyos prefer a bit of company. Three or four is a good number,
> if you
> have room.


I bought one Yoyo to see if he would take care of a snails problem (he
didn't). Then I bought 3 Clowns (I still have 2). I thought they might
co-habitate, but the Yoyo is a grump. I'll get him company when I set up
a quarantine tank.

You mentioned that this is a new group. Could water parameters be an
issue? Also if the Yoyo is not well, it might appear as a reduced
appetite.
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[Bill Stock]

"NetMax" > wrote in message
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> "Andy Hill" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Bill Stock" > wrote:
>>> Will Yoyos do better in a small group? The LFS only had one.
>>>
>> Yeah, yoyos prefer a bit of company. Three or four is a good number, if
>> you
>> have room.
>
>
> I bought one Yoyo to see if he would take care of a snails problem (he
> didn't). Then I bought 3 Clowns (I still have 2). I thought they might
> co-habitate, but the Yoyo is a grump. I'll get him company when I set up
> a quarantine tank.
>
> You mentioned that this is a new group. Could water parameters be an
> issue? Also if the Yoyo is not well, it might appear as a reduced
> appetite.

Could be something up with him. He does seem a little mopey. KH is about 5,
PH about 7.6, temps around 79, Ammonia is 0, Nitrites 0, Nitrates likely
about 10. I would like to get the PH down to 7 for the Tetras and lower the
temp a bit. (Damn fiddly Tronic controls). But the Tetra's seem fine at this
PH, they were probably raised in this PH, as the LFS is local.

I didn't see any Ammonia spikes at all, this tank has been running as my
plant tank for 18 months previous.

I'll check the Nitrates again later.


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[NetMax]

"Bill Stock" > wrote in message
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>
> "NetMax" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Andy Hill" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> "Bill Stock" > wrote:
>>>> Will Yoyos do better in a small group? The LFS only had one.
>>>>
>>> Yeah, yoyos prefer a bit of company. Three or four is a good
>>> number, if you
>>> have room.
>>
>>
>> I bought one Yoyo to see if he would take care of a snails problem (he
>> didn't). Then I bought 3 Clowns (I still have 2). I thought they
>> might co-habitate, but the Yoyo is a grump. I'll get him company when
>> I set up a quarantine tank.
>>
>> You mentioned that this is a new group. Could water parameters be an
>> issue? Also if the Yoyo is not well, it might appear as a reduced
>> appetite.
>
> Could be something up with him. He does seem a little mopey. KH is
> about 5, PH about 7.6, temps around 79, Ammonia is 0, Nitrites 0,
> Nitrates likely about 10. I would like to get the PH down to 7 for the
> Tetras and lower the temp a bit. (Damn fiddly Tronic controls). But the
> Tetra's seem fine at this PH, they were probably raised in this PH, as
> the LFS is local.
>
> I didn't see any Ammonia spikes at all, this tank has been running as
> my plant tank for 18 months previous.
>
> I'll check the Nitrates again later.


Sounds great. Established plant tanks are great for soaking up ammonia
and nitrites (and nitrates sometimes). Dropping the temp is not a bad
idea (77-78F) but 79F won't cause any issues unless you don't have a/c
and are in north-am. I would leave the pH alone. We kept almost all our
sof****er fish in 7.7pH, even wild caught Cardinals. I had to keep the
Discus in 6.8pH or my Discus clientele would have gotten upset with me
;~).
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[Bill Stock]

"NetMax" > wrote in message
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> "Bill Stock" > wrote in message
> ...
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>> "NetMax" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> "Andy Hill" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> "Bill Stock" > wrote:
>>>>> Will Yoyos do better in a small group? The LFS only had one.
>>>>>
>>>> Yeah, yoyos prefer a bit of company. Three or four is a good number,
>>>> if you
>>>> have room.
>>>
>>>
>>> I bought one Yoyo to see if he would take care of a snails problem (he
>>> didn't). Then I bought 3 Clowns (I still have 2). I thought they might
>>> co-habitate, but the Yoyo is a grump. I'll get him company when I set
>>> up a quarantine tank.
>>>
>>> You mentioned that this is a new group. Could water parameters be an
>>> issue? Also if the Yoyo is not well, it might appear as a reduced
>>> appetite.
>>
>> Could be something up with him. He does seem a little mopey. KH is about
>> 5, PH about 7.6, temps around 79, Ammonia is 0, Nitrites 0, Nitrates
>> likely about 10. I would like to get the PH down to 7 for the Tetras and
>> lower the temp a bit. (Damn fiddly Tronic controls). But the Tetra's seem
>> fine at this PH, they were probably raised in this PH, as the LFS is
>> local.
>>
>> I didn't see any Ammonia spikes at all, this tank has been running as my
>> plant tank for 18 months previous.
>>
>> I'll check the Nitrates again later.
>
>
> Sounds great. Established plant tanks are great for soaking up ammonia
> and nitrites (and nitrates sometimes). Dropping the temp is not a bad
> idea (77-78F) but 79F won't cause any issues unless you don't have a/c and
> are in north-am. I would leave the pH alone. We kept almost all our
> sof****er fish in 7.7pH, even wild caught Cardinals. I had to keep the
> Discus in 6.8pH or my Discus clientele would have gotten upset with me
> ;~).
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Just broke out the test kits to test everything again. Ammonia is 0,
Nitrates are 0 (unusual for this tank), KH is 5, GH is 11 and the bad news
is the PH is 8.4! This tank has always run around 7.6 and I just did a 50%
water change on the weekend before adding the fish. The tap water is at 7.4
these days. So I'm stumped by the 8.4 I almost wonder if something in the
water is throwing the reading off. But I used a test strip and the bottled
reagent and got the same result.

I just started a new batch of yeast as a temporary fix. The old batch had
died out.