Problems with the newsgroup

[Celtic Wanderer]

Is anyone else having problems viewing posts? I see more post when I go
through google groups, then through my outlook express.

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[Daniel Morrow]

"Celtic Wanderer" > wrote in message
...
> Is anyone else having problems viewing posts? I see more post when I go
> through google groups, then through my outlook express.
>
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> Celtic Wanderer
> http://home.comcast.net/~Celtic_wanderer
>
>

I use outlook express with my isp as well. Make sure you catch all of the
posts that are in already established threads. Click on the + sign next to a
thread subject title if you have your outlook express set (possible?) to not
expand threads. A lot of the posts here are additional posts within the same
thread and if outlook express doesn't automatically expand the thread then
very few if any new posts are evident. Good luck, and I am not trying to
make you feel stupid, later!

[Jim Anderson]

In article >,
says...

> Is anyone else having problems viewing posts? I see more post when I go
> through google groups, then through my outlook express.
>
>

There is no central repository for Usenet, it is always streaming across
hundreds of backbone networks and ISP's suck it down to their servers.
Some backwoods ISP's don't download all of it because of attitude or
lack of modern equipment. My ISP does not have *any* of the Binaries
groups.

--
Jim Anderson
( 8(|) To email me just pull my_finger

[NetMax]

"Celtic Wanderer" > wrote in message
...
> Is anyone else having problems viewing posts? I see more post when I
> go through google groups, then through my outlook express.
>
> --
> Celtic Wanderer
> http://home.comcast.net/~Celtic_wanderer


Might be with your ISP, although I use OE at home and at work for
newsgroups too, and my work copy never wants to display all the messages
unless I say Catch up, and then the extra messages disappear again when I
leave. I've checked all the view settings. Damn MS contraptions.
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www.NetMax.tk

[Larry]

On Thu, 9 Jun 2005 20:08:26 -0400, "Celtic Wanderer"
> wrote:

>Is anyone else having problems viewing posts? I see more post when I go
>through google groups, then through my outlook express.

I have OE but use Agent Forte. Works great. Why don't you try it?

Larry

[Billy]

"Celtic Wanderer" > wrote in message
...
> Is anyone else having problems viewing posts? I see more post when
> I go through google groups, then through my outlook express.
>


Each server you use to access USENET will have a different selection
of groups. Also, the retention of posts differs from place to place.
Some ISP's keep text posts almost forever, others retain them for
only days.

[MarAzul]

"NetMax" > wrote in message
...
> "Celtic Wanderer" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Is anyone else having problems viewing posts? I see more post when I go
>> through google groups, then through my outlook express.
>>
>> --
>> Celtic Wanderer
>> http://home.comcast.net/~Celtic_wanderer
>
>
> Might be with your ISP, although I use OE at home and at work for
> newsgroups too, and my work copy never wants to display all the messages
> unless I say Catch up, and then the extra messages disappear again when I
> leave. I've checked all the view settings. Damn MS contraptions.
> --
> www.NetMax.tk
>


I have that same problem on mine.. No idea what causes it though..

Mar
---------
Vet Tech student

[Dick]

On Thu, 09 Jun 2005 22:18:54 -0400, Larry > wrote:

>On Thu, 9 Jun 2005 20:08:26 -0400, "Celtic Wanderer"
> wrote:
>
>>Is anyone else having problems viewing posts? I see more post when I go
>>through google groups, then through my outlook express.
>
>I have OE but use Agent Forte. Works great. Why don't you try it?
>
>Larry

Actually there is a free version of Agent. I have used the paid
version for years, but for text newsgroups the free version should be
quite adequate.

As for missing posts, I would suspect your Internet Provider (IP).
Unless you pay for a separate "usenet" service you may be limited by
what your IP has contracted to provide you.

Personally, I have subscribed to "giganews" for years. They keep
postings for 5 months. That is a lot of "retention," and can be a
hassle the first time you visit a group, but you can be assured of
getting everything.

I have only used Outlook Express on rare occaisions, so if your
problem is in the reader, I have no ideas except to suggest trying
"agent" from Forte.

dick

[Celtic Wanderer]

What's Agent Forte?

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Celtic Wanderer
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"Larry" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 9 Jun 2005 20:08:26 -0400, "Celtic Wanderer"
> > wrote:
>
>>Is anyone else having problems viewing posts? I see more post when I go
>>through google groups, then through my outlook express.
>
> I have OE but use Agent Forte. Works great. Why don't you try it?
>
> Larry
>

[Derek Benson]

On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 15:46:49 -0400, "Celtic Wanderer"
> wrote:

>What's Agent Forte?

Agent or Free Agent is a program for reading newsgroups. You can't
surf the web with it or do other stuff, only read newsgroups. It's
much better than the reader with IE or Netscape (is Netscape still
around?), at least IMO. When you install it you need to type into it
your ISP's email server address and a few other things, so you should
have this info in advance. Agent can be downloaded at
http://www.forteinc.com/
It appears to me that you download Agent, the full program, and can
use it for thirty days, afterwards you're supposed to pay for a
license or it will revert to Free Agent which has fewer features. I
use Free Agent and it's fine, a very good newsreader.

-Derek

[Larry]

On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:48:06 +0200, Derek Benson >
wrote:

>On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 15:46:49 -0400, "Celtic Wanderer"
> wrote:
>
>>What's Agent Forte?
Agent can be downloaded at
>http://www.forteinc.com/
>It appears to me that you download Agent, the full program, and can
>use it for thirty days, afterwards you're supposed to pay for a
>license or it will revert to Free Agent which has fewer features. I
>use Free Agent and it's fine, a very good newsreader.
>


If you like the free version, I'll send you a registration number.
This will hold you for a year or so. I have a code generator program.

Larry

[Ionizer]

"Larry" > wrote in message
...
> If you like the free version, I'll send you a registration number.
> This will hold you for a year or so. I have a code generator program.

If we're going to start discussing the more nefarious side of what's
available on the internet in this group, shouldn't we confine our
discussions to phishing?

Regards,
Ian.

[Derek Benson]

On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 17:09:35 -0400, Larry > wrote:

>On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:48:06 +0200, Derek Benson >
>wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 15:46:49 -0400, "Celtic Wanderer"
> wrote:
>>
>>>What's Agent Forte?
> Agent can be downloaded at
>>http://www.forteinc.com/
>>It appears to me that you download Agent, the full program, and can
>>use it for thirty days, afterwards you're supposed to pay for a
>>license or it will revert to Free Agent which has fewer features. I
>>use Free Agent and it's fine, a very good newsreader.
>>
>
>
>If you like the free version, I'll send you a registration number.
>This will hold you for a year or so. I have a code generator program.
>
>Larry

No thanks. I like Free Agent as it is and actually want as few
features as possible so I don't have to mess with the program, check
out this feature and then the next one and decide how I want it and
blah blah blah. The simpler it is the better for me. :-)

-Derek

[Dick]

On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:48:06 +0200, Derek Benson >
wrote:

>On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 15:46:49 -0400, "Celtic Wanderer"
> wrote:
>
>>What's Agent Forte?
>
>Agent or Free Agent is a program for reading newsgroups. You can't
>surf the web with it or do other stuff, only read newsgroups. It's
>much better than the reader with IE or Netscape (is Netscape still
>around?), at least IMO. When you install it you need to type into it
>your ISP's email server address and a few other things, so you should
>have this info in advance. Agent can be downloaded at
>http://www.forteinc.com/
>It appears to me that you download Agent, the full program, and can
>use it for thirty days, afterwards you're supposed to pay for a
>license or it will revert to Free Agent which has fewer features. I
>use Free Agent and it's fine, a very good newsreader.
>
>-Derek

A good newsreader, but, may have nothing to do with missing posts. I
would talk with your Internet Service Provider before trying a new
program. I suspect the problem has to do with limits in the ISP's
contract with the news service.

Hi Derek! Have you tried any of the other news readers? I am told
there are a couple that have better features. I tried one a couple of
years ago while having problems with incomplete messages. I went back
to Agent (paid version), not because it was best, but because I was
familiar with it. (If it ain't broke don't fix it) : - )

dick

[Dick]

On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 17:09:35 -0400, Larry > wrote:

>On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:48:06 +0200, Derek Benson >
>wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 15:46:49 -0400, "Celtic Wanderer"
> wrote:
>>
>>>What's Agent Forte?
> Agent can be downloaded at
>>http://www.forteinc.com/
>>It appears to me that you download Agent, the full program, and can
>>use it for thirty days, afterwards you're supposed to pay for a
>>license or it will revert to Free Agent which has fewer features. I
>>use Free Agent and it's fine, a very good newsreader.
>>
>
>
>If you like the free version, I'll send you a registration number.
>This will hold you for a year or so. I have a code generator program.
>
>Larry

I suggest you not do that Larry. Forte supplies a free version.
The price for a full version is small. Even so those small fees
provide the money for Forte to continue to supply updates as well as
free versions. Don't kill the goose that lays the golden egg.

dick

[Dick]

On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:56:59 +0200, Derek Benson >
wrote:

>On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 17:09:35 -0400, Larry > wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:48:06 +0200, Derek Benson >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 15:46:49 -0400, "Celtic Wanderer"
> wrote:
>>>
>>>>What's Agent Forte?
>> Agent can be downloaded at
>>>http://www.forteinc.com/
>>>It appears to me that you download Agent, the full program, and can
>>>use it for thirty days, afterwards you're supposed to pay for a
>>>license or it will revert to Free Agent which has fewer features. I
>>>use Free Agent and it's fine, a very good newsreader.
>>>
>>
>>
>>If you like the free version, I'll send you a registration number.
>>This will hold you for a year or so. I have a code generator program.
>>
>>Larry
>
>No thanks. I like Free Agent as it is and actually want as few
>features as possible so I don't have to mess with the program, check
>out this feature and then the next one and decide how I want it and
>blah blah blah. The simpler it is the better for me. :-)
>
>-Derek

Derek, you sound like a fellow "wimp." I too cry "Kiss" (keep it
simple stupid), but then am so happy with myself when I discover a
neat new feature. Once a complicated program is learned it is nice
to have the options. Every so often, I still find a new twist to
using Agent pay version, such as customizing the tool bar to show only
icons I really use or adding an icon that sorts the posts by thread.
I suspect that customizing feature is not part of the free version.

dick

[Derek Benson]

On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 05:06:09 -0500, Dick >
wrote:

>A good newsreader, but, may have nothing to do with missing posts. I
>would talk with your Internet Service Provider before trying a new
>program. I suspect the problem has to do with limits in the ISP's
>contract with the news service.
>
>Hi Derek! Have you tried any of the other news readers? I am told
>there are a couple that have better features. I tried one a couple of
>years ago while having problems with incomplete messages. I went back
>to Agent (paid version), not because it was best, but because I was
>familiar with it. (If it ain't broke don't fix it) : - )
>
>dick

I haven't tried any other stand-alone newsreaders. I've used Free
Agent since the early or mid 90s, exactly because I'm familiar with
it. I have no interest anymore in trying new computer programs all the
time, it was cool in '93 when I got my first computer, now I find it
more like "work" as opposed to fun.

-Derek

[Mean_Chlorine]

Thusly Derek Benson > Spake Unto All:

>I haven't tried any other stand-alone newsreaders. I've used Free
>Agent since the early or mid 90s, exactly because I'm familiar with
>it. I have no interest anymore in trying new computer programs all the
>time

It's still the best.

The one thing I'm missing is more options for killfiling, e.g. the
ability to killfile based on text in the body of messages and all
fields in the header.

[Larry]

>
>I suggest you not do that Larry. Forte supplies a free version.
>The price for a full version is small. Even so those small fees
>provide the money for Forte to continue to supply updates as well as
>free versions. Don't kill the goose that lays the golden egg.
>
>dick

good point Dick.

Larry

[NetMax]

"MarAzul" > wrote in message
news:4C9qe.9617$tr.4387@fed1read03...
> "NetMax" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Celtic Wanderer" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Is anyone else having problems viewing posts? I see more post when I go
>>> through google groups, then through my outlook express.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Celtic Wanderer
>>> http://home.comcast.net/~Celtic_wanderer
>>
>>
>> Might be with your ISP, although I use OE at home and at work for
>> newsgroups too, and my work copy never wants to display all the messages
>> unless I say Catch up, and then the extra messages disappear again when I
>> leave. I've checked all the view settings. Damn MS contraptions.
>> --
>> www.NetMax.tk
>>
>
>
> I have that same problem on mine.. No idea what causes it though..
>
> Mar
> ---------
> Vet Tech student


Ahh, fixed it, under View - Current View - unclick Show replies to my
messages, as this will not show all other messages.

This should be obvious but I have *lots* of messages, so that's my excuse
and I'm sticking to it ;~)

Probably not the OP's problem though.
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