Re: Valid Reasons for Atheism?

[Christopher A. Lee]

On 12 Jun 2005 21:41:50 -0000,
(Era-Koi) wrote:

Jabriol, you are a dishonest, nasty, lying piece of ****.

<plonk> this latest incarnation

[Thore \Tocis\ Schmechtig]

Era-Koi wrote:

> Consider: If a knife is used to
> threaten, injure, or even murder an innocent person, does this prove that
> the knife had no designer?

Faulty analogy.
The babblical monster called "jehoover" is supposed to be, among other
traits, omnipotent and loving. Hence, _any_ amount of evil disproves the
possible existence of _this_ deity.

> Some, however, feel that it is illogical to believe in God, since we
> cannot see him. But what about air, sound waves, and odors?

These we can perceive. We can verify their existence by other means than
sight. There's _no_ hint at the existence of the judeo-christian idol.

> Irving William
> Knobloch was moved to say: [...]
> Similarly, physiologist Marlin Books Kreider
> states: [...]

Appeal to authority.

> These men are not alone. According to physics professor Henry Margenau,
> “if you take the top-notch scientists, you find very few atheists among
> them.

False dichotomy.
Non-atheist != christian.

Bottom line: A collection of meaningless, long-refuted drivel. As usual,
nothing new from the followers of the christian death cult... because
everything they can possibly come up with has already been used AND
refuted.

And everytime they try again, they add another defeat to the list. Go
fundies - with every attempt you lose more victims to reason. ;)

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>> These men are not alone. According to physics professor Henry Margenau,
>> "if you take the top-notch scientists, you find very few atheists among
>> them.

>False dichotomy.
>Non-atheist != christian.

That one is especially misleading. Many scientists list themselves
under pantheism. Pantheism is closer to atheism then it is to deism,
in my opinion at least. I'm not an expert on religions or anything...

[Eric Hobsbawm]

(Era-Koi)
wrote in news:T9REH4YK38515.7373842593@anonymous:

> Whether they have observed the hypocrisy of religion
> or not, many atheists simply cannot reconcile belief
> in God with the suffering in the world.

Never caused me any problems.

Most suffering is caused by man. The few per cent that is not definitely
caused by the selfish actions of men, may be.

> Some, however, feel that it is illogical
> to believe in God, since we cannot see him.


Now you get closer. There is evidence for air, sound and the rest. The
evidence for God is equivocal.

> “I believe in God because to me His
> Divine existence is the only logical
> explanation for things as they are.”

Mahatma Gandhi said, from memory, "the world has enough food for
everyone's need, but not everyone's greed." He was wrong: the world has
enough food for everyone's greed.

I try hard not to surrender my limited powers of critical thought, to
anyone, no matter how superior to me they may be.

> According to physics professor Henry
> Margenau, “if you take the top-notch scientists,
> you find very few atheists among them.”

Alan Turing, held by most to be the founder of the science modern
computing, killed himself. Are you going to stop using your computer,
follow Alan Turing, or accept the conclusions of one's superiors are not
sufficient?


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