don't killfile the regulars

[Larry]

Was going to put a few more posters out of their misery(kill file
them) but saw that they were regular posters.

If you think the message is a forgery check the header fields. It'll
most likely be from a re mailer rather than the actual person's email
addy.

Clever little minions!

Larry

[Irra-Koi]

"Larry" > wrote in message
...
> Was going to put a few more posters out of their misery(kill file
> them) but saw that they were regular posters.
>
> If you think the message is a forgery check the header fields. It'll
> most likely be from a re mailer rather than the actual person's email
> addy.
>
> Clever little minions!
>
> Larry
=======================
That's what I've been suggesting for weeks now. The poster doing this has
sworn to kill rec.ponds. He calls it "theocratic warfare strategy." He's
using Dizum.com. Killfileing THAT domain will block all his posts. I'm not
sure if that can be done in OE.
--
McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
EVERYONE: "Please check people's headers for forgeries
before flushing." NAMES ARE BEING FORGED.
Do not feed the trolls.
~~~ }<((((o> ~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~ }<(((((o>

[BryanB]

Simple solution: Add the word "anonymous" to your "from:" killfile
filter. They'll all go away....

--Bryan

On 6/12/2005 7:44 PM Larry let loose a lemur across the keyboard and it
typed:<BR>

> Was going to put a few more posters out of their misery(kill file
> them) but saw that they were regular posters.
>
> If you think the message is a forgery check the header fields. It'll
> most likely be from a re mailer rather than the actual person's email
> addy.
>
> Clever little minions!
>
> Larry

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[2Rowdy]

Message >,
by author Irra-Koi aka <invalid@invalid> inspired me,

> That's what I've been suggesting for weeks now. The poster doing
> this has sworn to kill rec.ponds. He calls it "theocratic warfare
> strategy." He's using Dizum.com. Killfileing THAT domain will
> block all his posts. I'm not sure if that can be done in OE.

et
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[Tom L. La Bron]

Better than just having them go away via a killfile go the header and get
the abuse addy for the remailer and write them and complain.

Tom L.L.
"BryanB" > wrote in message
ink.net...
> Simple solution: Add the word "anonymous" to your "from:" killfile
> filter. They'll all go away....
>
> --Bryan
>
> On 6/12/2005 7:44 PM Larry let loose a lemur across the keyboard and it
> typed:<BR>
>
>> Was going to put a few more posters out of their misery(kill file
>> them) but saw that they were regular posters.
>>
>> If you think the message is a forgery check the header fields. It'll
>> most likely be from a re mailer rather than the actual person's email
>> addy.
>>
>> Clever little minions!
>>
>> Larry
>
> --
> ************************************************** **********
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> * Through the Trees? | Reply if you want. E-mail *
> * Take it out! | address changes frequently *
> * (Damn Viruses!) | to foil spambots. *
> ************************************************** **********

[Reel Mckoi]

"Tom L. La Bron" > wrote in message
...
> Better than just having them go away via a killfile go the header and get
> the abuse addy for the remailer and write them and complain.
=================================
Tom, it doesn't do any good. They don't consider "flame wars" abuse. Even
when a remailer slanders and libels someone it's ignored. All you can do is
either ignore the anon posters, or killfile them (if you can).
--
McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
EVERYONE: "Please check people's headers for forgeries
before flushing." NAMES ARE BEING FORGED.
Do not feed the trolls.
~~~ }<((((o> ~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~ }<(((((o>

[Reel Mckoi]

Where do you get this info, the twilight zone or the outerl limits.

Courageous wrote:
>
>>Better than just having them go away via a killfile go the header and get
>>the abuse addy for the remailer and write them and complain.
>
>
> A number of remailers specifically state they will take no action for
> usenet hostility. They likely draw the line at criminal conduct, but
> you'd have to believe that they actually read their abuse box, which
> itself is doubtful. About the only surefire way to get their attention
> is spelled "subpoena", although a letter on attorney letterhead will
> also do it.
>
> C//
>

[Courageous]

>Better than just having them go away via a killfile go the header and get
>the abuse addy for the remailer and write them and complain.

A number of remailers specifically state they will take no action for
usenet hostility. They likely draw the line at criminal conduct, but
you'd have to believe that they actually read their abuse box, which
itself is doubtful. About the only surefire way to get their attention
is spelled "subpoena", although a letter on attorney letterhead will
also do it.

C//

[Reel McKoi]

"Courageous" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> >Better than just having them go away via a killfile go the header and get
> >the abuse addy for the remailer and write them and complain.
>
> A number of remailers specifically state they will take no action for
> usenet hostility.

# From what I have seen on Usenet over the years - this is true.

They likely draw the line at criminal conduct,

# Since they keep no logs they have no way to know who is or isn't into
criminal activity.

but
> you'd have to believe that they actually read their abuse box, which
> itself is doubtful.

# I agree. Any complaints probably go straight to the bit bucket.

About the only surefire way to get their attention
> is spelled "subpoena", although a letter on attorney letterhead will
> also do it.

# See above. Without logs even that wouldn't stop the abuser. They can't
ban the person since they have no way to know who she/he is.
--
McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
EVERYONE: "Please check people's headers for forgeries
before flushing." NAMES ARE BEING FORGED.
Do not feed the trolls.
~~~ }<((((o> ~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~ }<(((((o>

[Reel Mckoi]

Reel Mckoi wrote:

> =================================
> Tom, it doesn't do any good. They don't consider "flame wars" abuse. Even
> when a remailer slanders and libels someone it's ignored. All you can do is
> either ignore the anon posters, or killfile them (if you can).

Carol remailers has been traced to:

Please inform them that their customer is abusing their service
By spaming the net via remailers. Thay have a firsthop log file.
The account is alias alias


The above is Carol gate way from her home PC to her remailers and NSP.

And she thought her remailers could not be traced.


OrgName: Hughes Network Systems
OrgID: HNS
Address: 11717 Exploration Lane
Address: DirecWAY Network Management Center
Address: attn: Network Security Manager
City: Germantown
StateProv: MD
PostalCode: 20876
Country: US

NetRange: 66.82.0.0 - 66.82.255.255
CIDR: 66.82.0.0/16
NetName: DIRECPC-1BLK
NetHandle: NET-66-82-0-0-1
Parent: NET-66-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Allocation
NameServer: NS1.DIRECPC.COM
NameServer: NS2.DIRECPC.COM
Comment: ADDRESSES WITHIN THIS BLOCK ARE NON-PORTABLE
RegDate: 2001-02-28
Updated: 2003-01-21

TechHandle: ZD63-ARIN
TechName: DirecPC
TechPhone: +1-301-601-7205
TechEmail:

OrgTechHandle: NSM5-ARIN
OrgTechName: Network Security Manager
OrgTechPhone: +1-301-601-7205
OrgTechEmail:

[Reel Mckoi]

Les wrote:
> "jabriol" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
>
>
>>And then of course how would carol, continure her Flame war against
>>herself, without her anon remailersanher continued posting of child
>>porn on rec.ponds?
>
Carol remailers has been traced to:

Please inform them that their customer is abusing their service
By spaming the net via remailers. Thay have a firsthop log file.
The account is alias alias


The above is Carol gate way from her home PC to her remailers and NSP.

And she thought her remailers could not be traced.


OrgName: Hughes Network Systems
OrgID: HNS
Address: 11717 Exploration Lane
Address: DirecWAY Network Management Center
Address: attn: Network Security Manager
City: Germantown
StateProv: MD
PostalCode: 20876
Country: US

NetRange: 66.82.0.0 - 66.82.255.255
CIDR: 66.82.0.0/16
NetName: DIRECPC-1BLK
NetHandle: NET-66-82-0-0-1
Parent: NET-66-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Allocation
NameServer: NS1.DIRECPC.COM
NameServer: NS2.DIRECPC.COM
Comment: ADDRESSES WITHIN THIS BLOCK ARE NON-PORTABLE
RegDate: 2001-02-28
Updated: 2003-01-21

TechHandle: ZD63-ARIN
TechName: DirecPC
TechPhone: +1-301-601-7205
TechEmail:

OrgTechHandle: NSM5-ARIN
OrgTechName: Network Security Manager
OrgTechPhone: +1-301-601-7205
OrgTechEmail:


>
>

[Reel Mckoi]

LS wrote:
> In article >
> Reel Mckoi/Jabriol > Qwest/Jersey City NJ
> wrote:
>
> Where do you get this info, the twilight zone or the outerl
> limits.
> Carol remailers has been traced to:

Please inform them that their customer is abusing their service
By spaming the net via remailers. Thay have a firsthop log file.
The account is alias alias


The above is Carol gate way from her home PC to her remailers and NSP.

And she thought her remailers could not be traced.


OrgName: Hughes Network Systems
OrgID: HNS
Address: 11717 Exploration Lane
Address: DirecWAY Network Management Center
Address: attn: Network Security Manager
City: Germantown
StateProv: MD
PostalCode: 20876
Country: US

NetRange: 66.82.0.0 - 66.82.255.255
CIDR: 66.82.0.0/16
NetName: DIRECPC-1BLK
NetHandle: NET-66-82-0-0-1
Parent: NET-66-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Allocation
NameServer: NS1.DIRECPC.COM
NameServer: NS2.DIRECPC.COM
Comment: ADDRESSES WITHIN THIS BLOCK ARE NON-PORTABLE
RegDate: 2001-02-28
Updated: 2003-01-21

TechHandle: ZD63-ARIN
TechName: DirecPC
TechPhone: +1-301-601-7205
TechEmail:

OrgTechHandle: NSM5-ARIN
OrgTechName: Network Security Manager
OrgTechPhone: +1-301-601-7205
OrgTechEmail:

>
>
>

[Reel Mckoi]

Ron wrote:
> "jabriol" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
>
>
>>And then of course how would carol, continure her Flame war against
>>herself, without her anon remailersanher continued posting of child
>>porn on rec.ponds?
>
> Carol remailers has been traced to:

Please inform them that their customer is abusing their service
By spaming the net via remailers. Thay have a firsthop log file.
The account is alias alias


The above is Carol gate way from her home PC to her remailers and NSP.

And she thought her remailers could not be traced.


OrgName: Hughes Network Systems
OrgID: HNS
Address: 11717 Exploration Lane
Address: DirecWAY Network Management Center
Address: attn: Network Security Manager
City: Germantown
StateProv: MD
PostalCode: 20876
Country: US

NetRange: 66.82.0.0 - 66.82.255.255
CIDR: 66.82.0.0/16
NetName: DIRECPC-1BLK
NetHandle: NET-66-82-0-0-1
Parent: NET-66-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Allocation
NameServer: NS1.DIRECPC.COM
NameServer: NS2.DIRECPC.COM
Comment: ADDRESSES WITHIN THIS BLOCK ARE NON-PORTABLE
RegDate: 2001-02-28
Updated: 2003-01-21

TechHandle: ZD63-ARIN
TechName: DirecPC
TechPhone: +1-301-601-7205
TechEmail:

OrgTechHandle: NSM5-ARIN
OrgTechName: Network Security Manager
OrgTechPhone: +1-301-601-7205
OrgTechEmail:

>
>
>

[~Carol~]

Reel Mckoi wrote:
> Ron wrote:
>
>> "jabriol" > wrote in message
>> oups.com...
>>
>>
>>> And then of course how would carol, continure her Flame war against
>>> herself, without her anon remailersanher continued posting of child
>>> porn on rec.ponds?
>>
>>
>> Carol remailers has been traced to:
>
>
> Please inform them that their customer is abusing their service
> By spaming the net via remailers. Thay have a firsthop log file.
> The account is alias alias
>
>
> The above is Carol gate way from her home PC to her remailers and NSP.
>
> And she thought her remailers could not be traced.
>
>
> OrgName: Hughes Network Systems
> OrgID: HNS
> Address: 11717 Exploration Lane
> Address: DirecWAY Network Management Center
> Address: attn: Network Security Manager
> City: Germantown
> StateProv: MD
> PostalCode: 20876
> Country: US
>
> NetRange: 66.82.0.0 - 66.82.255.255
> CIDR: 66.82.0.0/16
> NetName: DIRECPC-1BLK
> NetHandle: NET-66-82-0-0-1
> Parent: NET-66-0-0-0-0
> NetType: Direct Allocation
> NameServer: NS1.DIRECPC.COM
> NameServer: NS2.DIRECPC.COM
> Comment: ADDRESSES WITHIN THIS BLOCK ARE NON-PORTABLE
> RegDate: 2001-02-28
> Updated: 2003-01-21
>
> TechHandle: ZD63-ARIN
> TechName: DirecPC
> TechPhone: +1-301-601-7205
> TechEmail:
>
> OrgTechHandle: NSM5-ARIN
> OrgTechName: Network Security Manager
> OrgTechPhone: +1-301-601-7205
> OrgTechEmail:
>
>>
>>
>>

Carol Can be reported at:



Tell Dimitry that NYM Shifting to bypass filters goes against netiquette

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