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Phil Hansen
June 18th 05, 03:20 PM
In a previous post I mentioned moving all my small fish to another
tank as the tinfoil's had destroyed all the plants (even the Java
fern) and a few fish as well. (my fault - uninformed buy - didn't ask
enough questions - anyway too late now)
The new setup is working fine.
As to the old tank (1.2m - 450l) what can I put in with the 4
tinfoil's. There are some plastic plants (they don't seem to like them
<G>) and rocks. Algae growth is pretty prolific.
Thoughts are:
1 x Red tailed shark (1 only as aggressive with own)
Algae eater - shops here can't say whether they are Siamese or
Chinese.
Anything else?


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Skil-Phil

Phil Hansen
June 19th 05, 06:26 AM
On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 10:55:09 -0400, "NetMax"
> wrote:

>"Phil Hansen" > wrote in message
...
>> As to the old tank (1.2m - 450l) what can I put in with the 4
>> tinfoil's. There are some plastic plants (they don't seem to like them
>> <G>) and rocks. Algae growth is pretty prolific.

>Tinfoils aren't too hard to cohabitate fish with, if you have the water
>volume. Either match them (ie: Congo tetras, Bala Sharks...), or
>contrast them (ie: Tiger Barbs, medium-large sized cichlids...), or keep
>entirely out of their space (ie: Plecos, Catfish...). The best choices
>will vary according to the size of the Tinfoils (I've seen them kept with
>Oscars), and the size of your...... pond ;~).

Reading Baensch he says Bala sharks and tiger barbs need plants.
If it is, I suppose more plastic will have to do as nothing live will
survive.
This worries me about a pleco as any wafer or lettuce etc will be
consumed before he could get to it.
What cichlids were you thinking of?
Thanks for the link checked the differences in the algae eaters. Will
be better informed on the next trip to the city.



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Skil-Phil

NetMax
June 19th 05, 03:12 PM
"Phil Hansen" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 10:55:09 -0400, "NetMax"
> > wrote:
>
>>"Phil Hansen" > wrote in message
...
>>> As to the old tank (1.2m - 450l) what can I put in with the 4
>>> tinfoil's. There are some plastic plants (they don't seem to like
>>> them
>>> <G>) and rocks. Algae growth is pretty prolific.
>
>>Tinfoils aren't too hard to cohabitate fish with, if you have the water
>>volume. Either match them (ie: Congo tetras, Bala Sharks...), or
>>contrast them (ie: Tiger Barbs, medium-large sized cichlids...), or
>>keep
>>entirely out of their space (ie: Plecos, Catfish...). The best
>>choices
>>will vary according to the size of the Tinfoils (I've seen them kept
>>with
>>Oscars), and the size of your...... pond ;~).
>
> Reading Baensch he says Bala sharks and tiger barbs need plants.
> If it is, I suppose more plastic will have to do as nothing live will
> survive.
> This worries me about a pleco as any wafer or lettuce etc will be
> consumed before he could get to it.
> What cichlids were you thinking of?
> Thanks for the link checked the differences in the algae eaters. Will
> be better informed on the next trip to the city.
> ---------
> Skil-Phil

I prefer silk plants, though sometimes Tinfoils will nibble out of habit.
Regarding cichlids, Firemouths, Oscars, Rainbows, Texans, Geos etc. Only
one, introduced at a young age. Regarding the pleco, with some rock
ground cover, try to direct a wafer back there after the Tinfoils are
swimming around with a wafer in their mouths ;~). Ultimately it might
not be a good mix if you can't feed the pleco, but there are usually ways
to do it.
--
www.NetMax.tk

Derek Benson
June 19th 05, 03:13 PM
On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 16:20:48 +0200, Phil Hansen
> wrote:

>In a previous post I mentioned moving all my small fish to another
>tank as the tinfoil's had destroyed all the plants (even the Java
>fern) and a few fish as well. (my fault - uninformed buy - didn't ask
>enough questions - anyway too late now)
>The new setup is working fine.
>As to the old tank (1.2m - 450l) what can I put in with the 4
>tinfoil's. There are some plastic plants (they don't seem to like them
><G>) and rocks. Algae growth is pretty prolific.
>Thoughts are:
>1 x Red tailed shark (1 only as aggressive with own)
>Algae eater - shops here can't say whether they are Siamese or
>Chinese.
>Anything else?
>
>Skil-Phil

The best algae eater I've ever seen is the Black Shark, Morulius
chrysophekadion. As a lone algae eater in a large tank it can't be
beaten. It won't eat blue-green hair algae, but normal green algae you
get from sunlight will disappear. They do get quite large, and are
therefore a good tankmate for Tinfoils. If you want some outrageously
cool fights, put a Red-tailed Black Shark together with a Black, but
the Black Shark should be a bit larger when you purchase them.

-Derek

Phil Hansen
June 19th 05, 06:36 PM
On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 10:12:03 -0400, "NetMax"
> wrote:

<lots of snipping>
>
>I prefer silk plants, though sometimes Tinfoils will nibble out of habit.
>Regarding cichlids, Firemouths, Oscars, Rainbows, Texans, Geos etc. Only
>one, introduced at a young age. Regarding the pleco, with some rock
>ground cover, try to direct a wafer back there after the Tinfoils are
>swimming around with a wafer in their mouths ;~). Ultimately it might
>not be a good mix if you can't feed the pleco, but there are usually ways
>to do it.

Thanks for the advice

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Skil-Phil

Phil Hansen
June 19th 05, 06:36 PM
On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 16:13:07 +0200, Derek Benson >
wrote:

>The best algae eater I've ever seen is the Black Shark, Morulius
>chrysophekadion. As a lone algae eater in a large tank it can't be
>beaten. It won't eat blue-green hair algae, but normal green algae you
>get from sunlight will disappear. They do get quite large, and are
>therefore a good tankmate for Tinfoils. If you want some outrageously
>cool fights, put a Red-tailed Black Shark together with a Black, but
>the Black Shark should be a bit larger when you purchase them.

Thanks.
Never noticed a black shark in the local shops. Will look next time.


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Skil-Phil