koi colors..are your koi fancy? or mutts?

[*muffin*]

I have been looking at a some of the koi websites that show the different
colors , etc. & even with all the different choices, I can only find ONE
that matches what I have in my pond!

guess mine are all the rejects & mutts they have left over!

mine vary so much in different colors, I have no idea what they would fit
into! plus , I guess I am surprised, since I would think there would only be
definite colors for each species , but the quality OF the patterning would
be the determining factor.. but I have some koi, like one that is yellowish
& has black & orange speckling on it, which according to the charts would be
some kind of mutation! (lol) not a darn thing close to THAT coloration!

are YOUR koi perfectly matched of species? or do you have mutts too?
pictures? ( I must get some taken of mine)

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http://weloveteaching.com/mypond/mykoi/mykoi.htm

"*muffin*" > wrote:

>I have been looking at a some of the koi websites that show the different
>colors , etc. & even with all the different choices, I can only find ONE
>that matches what I have in my pond!
>
>guess mine are all the rejects & mutts they have left over!
>
>mine vary so much in different colors, I have no idea what they would fit
>into! plus , I guess I am surprised, since I would think there would only be
>definite colors for each species , but the quality OF the patterning would
>be the determining factor.. but I have some koi, like one that is yellowish
>& has black & orange speckling on it, which according to the charts would be
>some kind of mutation! (lol) not a darn thing close to THAT coloration!
>
>are YOUR koi perfectly matched of species? or do you have mutts too?
>pictures? ( I must get some taken of mine)
>



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[Wilmdale]

*muffin* wrote:

>I have been looking at a some of the koi websites that show the different
>colors , etc. & even with all the different choices, I can only find ONE
>that matches what I have in my pond!
>
>guess mine are all the rejects & mutts they have left over!
>
>mine vary so much in different colors, I have no idea what they would fit
>into! plus , I guess I am surprised, since I would think there would only be
>definite colors for each species , but the quality OF the patterning would
>be the determining factor.. but I have some koi, like one that is yellowish
>& has black & orange speckling on it, which according to the charts would be
>some kind of mutation! (lol) not a darn thing close to THAT coloration!
>
>are YOUR koi perfectly matched of species? or do you have mutts too?
>pictures? ( I must get some taken of mine)
>
>
>
>
Mostly "mutts" from the pet store. The $3.56 - $5.00 variety. They are
a beautiful array though. Some yellow ones, white, one blue one with
red belly I paid $10.00 for at a locally owned and run pet store, some
blue and white, blue, orange, and white, some gold, and some blue and
orange, etc. About 27-30 in all. None over 10" yet.
W. Dale

[Wilmdale]

Impressive!! :-) Great pictures.
W. Dale


wrote:

>http://weloveteaching.com/mypond/mykoi/mykoi.htm
>
>"*muffin*" > wrote:
>
>
>
>>I have been looking at a some of the koi websites that show the different
>>colors , etc. & even with all the different choices, I can only find ONE
>>that matches what I have in my pond!
>>
>>guess mine are all the rejects & mutts they have left over!
>>
>>mine vary so much in different colors, I have no idea what they would fit
>>into! plus , I guess I am surprised, since I would think there would only be
>>definite colors for each species , but the quality OF the patterning would
>>be the determining factor.. but I have some koi, like one that is yellowish
>>& has black & orange speckling on it, which according to the charts would be
>>some kind of mutation! (lol) not a darn thing close to THAT coloration!
>>
>>are YOUR koi perfectly matched of species? or do you have mutts too?
>>pictures? ( I must get some taken of mine)
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List at
>http://list.lovemyoldhome.com/puregold/
>WEBSITE AT: http://www.mu.edu/~buxtoni/puregold/home.html
>www.drsolo.com
>Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
>compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for
>any of the recommendations I make.
>AND I DID NOT AUTHORIZE ADS AT THE OLD PUREGOLD SITE
>
>

[Hank]

Muffin, ......... Mine is a mutt and proud of it.

--
some photos of my little puddle
http://community.webshots.com/user/hankpage1

http://www.geocities.com/hankpagel/pondpigs.html


"*muffin*" > wrote in message
...
>I have been looking at a some of the koi websites that show the
>different
> colors , etc. & even with all the different choices, I can only find
> ONE
> that matches what I have in my pond!
>
> guess mine are all the rejects & mutts they have left over!
>
> mine vary so much in different colors, I have no idea what they
> would fit
> into! plus , I guess I am surprised, since I would think there would
> only be
> definite colors for each species , but the quality OF the patterning
> would
> be the determining factor.. but I have some koi, like one that is
> yellowish
> & has black & orange speckling on it, which according to the charts
> would be
> some kind of mutation! (lol) not a darn thing close to THAT
> coloration!
>
> are YOUR koi perfectly matched of species? or do you have mutts too?
> pictures? ( I must get some taken of mine)
>
>

[Reel Mckoi]

"*muffin*" > wrote in message
...
> I have been looking at a some of the koi websites that show the different
> colors , etc. & even with all the different choices, I can only find ONE
> that matches what I have in my pond!
>
> guess mine are all the rejects & mutts they have left over!
>
> mine vary so much in different colors, I have no idea what they would fit
> into! plus , I guess I am surprised, since I would think there would only
be
> definite colors for each species , but the quality OF the patterning would
> be the determining factor.. but I have some koi, like one that is
yellowish
> & has black & orange speckling on it, which according to the charts would
be
> some kind of mutation! (lol) not a darn thing close to THAT coloration!
>
> are YOUR koi perfectly matched of species? or do you have mutts too?
> pictures? ( I must get some taken of mine)
====================================
Some of mine match the pictures in the books I have, and other's don't. As
I cull them out each year I keep the prettiest ones and sell or trade those
less colorful or with less attractive shapes. I want what pleases me and
not the koi judges in Japan. :-)

I especially like the metallic butterfly koi.
--
McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
EVERYONE: "Please check people's headers for forgeries
before flushing." NAMES ARE BEING FORGED.
Do not feed the trolls.
~~~ }<((((o> ~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~ }<(((((o>

[~ janj JJsPond.us]

>On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 06:49:56 -0400, "*muffin*" > wrote:

>are YOUR koi perfectly matched of species? or do you have mutts too?
>pictures? ( I must get some taken of mine)
>
Of course they're mutts, you don't get papers till you spend a few grand.
;-) I'm similar, having ogons, bekkos, doitsu, gin rin sanke and a lot of
odds & ends. ~ jan

~Power to the Porg, Flow On!~

[~Roy~]

I buy what I like with or without the "papers". Besides who is it
that deterines its a mutt? Yea, maybe a real koi judge, but to each
their own. If I like it I buy it.........amndnI have yet to be
swindled into buying one I did not like to begin with. Who really
knows, one of those sick koi barely alive in Wally World could have
come from a GC.......The local koi farm here rasies tons of ornamental
fish every year, and they do not cull a thing. They are sep[erated
only according to size, and type........not quality, and the owners
make the pilgramage to Japan to buy new breeders every year.. for
stock improvement etc.....and do not show koi but know full well what
a good koi should have....

Oh and in case your wondering about the only papers that may come with
any Koi no matter how much it cost is a bill of sale...........no
papers certifying any genetics or lineage, only the Japanese koi
farmers word as to its origins and breeding.

On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 14:37:30 -0700, ~ janj JJsPond.us
> wrote:

>===<>>On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 06:49:56 -0400, "*muffin*" > wrote:
>===<>
>===<>>are YOUR koi perfectly matched of species? or do you have mutts too?
>===<>>pictures? ( I must get some taken of mine)
>===<>>
>===<>Of course they're mutts, you don't get papers till you spend a few grand.
>===<>;-) I'm similar, having ogons, bekkos, doitsu, gin rin sanke and a lot of
>===<>odds & ends. ~ jan
>===<>
>===<> ~Power to the Porg, Flow On!~


==============================================
Put some color in your cheeks...garden naked!
"The original frugal ponder"
~~~~ }<((((o> ~~~~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~~~~~ }<(((((o>

[~ janj JJsPond.us]

(~Roy~) wrote:

>Subject says it all......

Ditto, but was she just visiting, or returnth? Hope she's back. ~ jan

~Power to the Porg, Flow On!~

[Koitoy]

When I culled my herd I gave away two beautiful butterfly Koi and kept
my three "mutts". They are big, and fat, but very friendly. Here is a
pic of my biggest Koi named "Fish One".


http://tinyurl.com/bbhfu


--
Koitoy

[Wilmdale]

Koitoy wrote:

>When I culled my herd I gave away two beautiful butterfly Koi and kept
>my three "mutts". They are big, and fat, but very friendly. Here is a
>pic of my biggest Koi named "Fish One".
>
>
>http://tinyurl.com/bbhfu
>
>
>
>
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-) :-)
W. Dale

[*muffin*]

"~Roy~" > wrote in message
...
> I buy what I like with or without the "papers". Besides who is it
> that deterines its a mutt?


well for me, I was talking, that MOST of my koi do not resemble the
pictures of the colors & species of the koi on the websites.
*mine* look like a kid just tossed paint colors on most of them,.
I have been trying to figure out WHAT they are so when someone asks I can
say.... oh that's a ""such & such"".
I do have a couple with ginrin coloring,,,,,,,,, or is that metallic???
arrghhhhh

[Reel McKoi]

"Koitoy" > wrote in message
...
>
> When I culled my herd I gave away two beautiful butterfly Koi and kept
> my three "mutts". They are big, and fat, but very friendly. Here is a
> pic of my biggest Koi named "Fish One".
>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/bbhfu
=========================
Wow! That koi doesn't look "mutty" to me! I have three of these,.. one in
orange, one in yellow and one in gray. They call them pinecone koi here.
--
McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
EVERYONE: "Please check people's headers for forgeries
before flushing." NAMES ARE BEING FORGED.
Do not feed the trolls.
~~~ }<((((o> ~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~ }<(((((o>

[kathy]

Mutts here but Mutts with a Mission.
As I've got them in the pond to keep the snails
in check.

kathy :-) www.blogfromthebog.com
this week ~ introducing Miss Lily,
a painted turtle

Pond 101 page for new pond keepers ~
http://hometown.aol.com/ka30p/myhomepage/garden.html

[~ janj JJsPond.us]

>well for me, I was talking, that MOST of my koi do not resemble the
>pictures of the colors & species of the koi on the websites.
>*mine* look like a kid just tossed paint colors on most of them,.
>I have been trying to figure out WHAT they are so when someone asks I can
>say.... oh that's a ""such & such"".
>I do have a couple with ginrin coloring,,,,,,,,, or is that metallic???
>arrghhhhh

How big are your koi? Some of mine, except the ogons (1 color) looked like
splashed paint when small, then the colors kind of separated out and became
more distinct as they got older. (Regarding comment about papers, I was
joking.) Beauty truly is in the eye of the beholder w/koi. ~ jan

~Power to the Porg, Flow On!~

[~ janj JJsPond.us]

>When I culled my herd I gave away two beautiful butterfly Koi and kept
>my three "mutts". They are big, and fat, but very friendly. Here is a
>pic of my biggest Koi named "Fish One".
>
>http://tinyurl.com/bbhfu

Gorgeous, I had a butterfly female similar in color, lost her last spring,
sniff, sniff. ;'o( ~ jan

~Power to the Porg, Flow On!~