New Heron Cha$er

[~ janj JJsPond.us]

Just got this in an E-mail, the latest in heron scaring:
http://www.pondfiltration.com/heron.html

Think I'll stick with my motion sprinkler. ;) ~ jan

~Power to the Porg, Flow On!~

[Elaine T]

~ janj JJsPond.us wrote:
> Just got this in an E-mail, the latest in heron scaring:
> http://www.pondfiltration.com/heron.html
>
> Think I'll stick with my motion sprinkler. ;) ~ jan
>
> ~Power to the Porg, Flow On!~

Unreal. I wish I were clever enough to come up with something like that
and sell it for that much money! I suppose it's cheap compared to some
of the papered show koi.

--
Elaine T __
http://eethomp.com/fish.html <'__><
rec.aquaria.* FAQ http://faq.thekrib.com

[Angrie.Woman]

~ janj JJsPond.us wrote:
> Just got this in an E-mail, the latest in heron scaring:
> http://www.pondfiltration.com/heron.html
>
> Think I'll stick with my motion sprinkler. ;) ~ jan
>

If the replacement arm is $18.00 and the motor is $33.00, what is the
other $500 for?

A

[~ Carol ~]

"Angrie.Woman" > wrote in message
. ..
> ~ janj JJsPond.us wrote:
> > Just got this in an E-mail, the latest in heron scaring:
> > http://www.pondfiltration.com/heron.html
> >
> > Think I'll stick with my motion sprinkler. ;) ~ jan
> >
>
> If the replacement arm is $18.00 and the motor is $33.00, what is the
> other $500 for?
>
> A
====================
Purely PROFIT since they consider koi and pond owners "rich." And think of
this... it would be worthless against fish eating bullfrogs, king fishers
and snakes. Herons aren't the only thing after our fish.
--
McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
EVERYONE: "Please check people's headers for forgeries
before flushing." NAMES ARE BEING FORGED.
Do not feed the trolls.
~~~ }<((((o> ~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~ }<(((((o>

[George]

"~ janj JJsPond.us" > wrote in message
...
> Just got this in an E-mail, the latest in heron scaring:
> http://www.pondfiltration.com/heron.html
>
> Think I'll stick with my motion sprinkler. ;) ~ jan
>
> ~Power to the Porg, Flow On!~

$500!!! No way!

[George]

"Angrie.Woman" > wrote in message
. ..
>~ janj JJsPond.us wrote:
>> Just got this in an E-mail, the latest in heron scaring:
>> http://www.pondfiltration.com/heron.html
>>
>> Think I'll stick with my motion sprinkler. ;) ~ jan
>>
>
> If the replacement arm is $18.00 and the motor is $33.00, what is the
> other $500 for?
>
> A

To pad the inventor's bank account. Can't have uncomfortable, lumpy
accounts, don't you know!

[~ Carol ~]

" George" > wrote in message
news:1x%te.75958$_o.3698@attbi_s71...
>
> "~ janj JJsPond.us" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Just got this in an E-mail, the latest in heron scaring:
> > http://www.pondfiltration.com/heron.html
> >
> > Think I'll stick with my motion sprinkler. ;) ~ jan
> >
> > ~Power to the Porg, Flow On!~
>
> $500!!! No way!
========================
There are people who will pay it! There are people who will pay anything
for some new gizmo....
--
McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
EVERYONE: "Please check people's headers for forgeries
before flushing." NAMES ARE BEING FORGED.
Do not feed the trolls.
~~~ }<((((o> ~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~ }<(((((o>

[San Diego Joe]

"~ janj JJsPond.us" wrote:

> Just got this in an E-mail, the latest in heron scaring:
> http://www.pondfiltration.com/heron.html
>
> Think I'll stick with my motion sprinkler. ;) ~ jan
>
> ~Power to the Porg, Flow On!~

Jeez Jan, I looked at that and thought, "wow, what a cool idea!" Then my
eyes moved over to the price. Aaaaaaaaaaaaaack!

Still, seems a person should be able to Mcgyver something like that.
Hmmmm...


San Diego Joe
4,000 - 5,000 Gallons.
Koi, Goldfish, and RES named Colombo.

[~ janj JJsPond.us]

>If the replacement arm is $18.00 and the motor is $33.00, what is the
>other $500 for?
>
>A

So the maker can stop at all the fast food places on their way, laughing to
the bank? ;o) Even if most of us could afford such a thing, it would kind
of beat the plants to death. Whap, whap, whap...... ;-) ~ jan

~Power to the Porg, Flow On!~

[kathy]

I think the raccoons would hop on and go
for a carnival ride. Weeeeeeeee!

kathy :-) www.blogfromthebog.com
this week ~ introducing Miss Lily,
a painted turtle

Pond 101 page for new pond keepers ~
http://hometown.aol.com/ka30p/myhomepage/garden.html

[~ janj JJsPond.us]

>Jeez Jan, I looked at that and thought, "wow, what a cool idea!" Then my
>eyes moved over to the price. Aaaaaaaaaaaaaack!

BEG. April fools in June, huh?

>Still, seems a person should be able to Mcgyver something like that.
>Hmmmm...
>San Diego Joe

I'd think so, I told my hubby I could raise it up and hang windchimes, soxs
& streamers from it, wouldn't my neighbors love that.
<Extremely BEG> ~ jan

~Power to the Porg, Flow On!~

[Mike Patterson]

On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:37:35 -0700, San Diego Joe >
wrote:

>"~ janj JJsPond.us" wrote:
>
>> Just got this in an E-mail, the latest in heron scaring:
>> http://www.pondfiltration.com/heron.html
>>
>> Think I'll stick with my motion sprinkler. ;) ~ jan
>>
>> ~Power to the Porg, Flow On!~
>
>Jeez Jan, I looked at that and thought, "wow, what a cool idea!" Then my
>eyes moved over to the price. Aaaaaaaaaaaaaack!
>
>Still, seems a person should be able to Mcgyver something like that.
>Hmmmm...
>
>
>San Diego Joe
>4,000 - 5,000 Gallons.
>Koi, Goldfish, and RES named Colombo.
>

I'm thinking of the swinging arm being a fiberglass tent pole, the
motor a rotisserrie motor, and the pondside mount/pole made from EMT
conduit.

Considering the light weight of the swingarm, I'd think you could
cobble up a bracket out of about a 3" length of 1" aluminum angle.

Oddly enough, I have all of those in my basement...hmmmm.

Mike


Mike Patterson
Please remove the spamtrap to email me.
"I always wanted to be somebody...I should have been more specific..." - Lily Tomlin

[Reel McKoi]

"Mike Patterson" > wrote in message
...
> Considering the light weight of the swingarm, I'd think you could
> cobble up a bracket out of about a 3" length of 1" aluminum angle.
> Oddly enough, I have all of those in my basement...hmmmm.
=========================
Would something swinging be a danger to small children? As the arm came
around it could clip them... :-(
--
McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
EVERYONE: "Please check people's headers for forgeries
before flushing." NAMES ARE BEING FORGED.
Do not feed the trolls.
~~~ }<((((o> ~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~ }<(((((o>

[Derek Broughton]

George wrote:

>
> "~ janj JJsPond.us" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Just got this in an E-mail, the latest in heron scaring:
>> http://www.pondfiltration.com/heron.html
>>
>> Think I'll stick with my motion sprinkler. ;) ~ jan
>>
>> ~Power to the Porg, Flow On!~
>
> $500!!! No way!

AND $95 shipping!
--
derek

[Derek Broughton]

Reel McKoi wrote:

>
> "Mike Patterson" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Considering the light weight of the swingarm, I'd think you could
>> cobble up a bracket out of about a 3" length of 1" aluminum angle.
>> Oddly enough, I have all of those in my basement...hmmmm.
> =========================
> Would something swinging be a danger to small children? As the arm came
> around it could clip them... :-(

Ponds are a danger to small children... This specifically claims it won't
hurt the heron, so it shouldn't be worse for kids. It looks like there's a
10' arm, and something dangling off the end. If the pointy bit is high
enough to ensure it doesn't poke someone in the eye, and slow enough to not
hurt, it should be OK.

I'm waiting for Mike's experimental results :-)
--
derek

[news group]

~ janj JJsPond.us wrote:

>Just got this in an E-mail, the latest in heron scaring:
>http://www.pondfiltration.com/heron.html
>
>Think I'll stick with my motion sprinkler. ;) ~ jan
>
> ~Power to the Porg, Flow On!~
>
>
Pricey!!

[news group]

~ janj JJsPond.us wrote:

>>If the replacement arm is $18.00 and the motor is $33.00, what is the
>>other $500 for?
>>
>>A
>>
>>
>
>So the maker can stop at all the fast food places on their way, laughing to
>the bank? ;o) Even if most of us could afford such a thing, it would kind
>of beat the plants to death. Whap, whap, whap...... ;-) ~ jan
>
> ~Power to the Porg, Flow On!~
>
>
There is that, too!
W. Dale

[Wilmdale]

San Diego Joe wrote:

>"~ janj JJsPond.us" wrote:
>
>
>
>>Just got this in an E-mail, the latest in heron scaring:
>>http://www.pondfiltration.com/heron.html
>>
>>Think I'll stick with my motion sprinkler. ;) ~ jan
>>
>> ~Power to the Porg, Flow On!~
>>
>>
>
>Jeez Jan, I looked at that and thought, "wow, what a cool idea!" Then my
>eyes moved over to the price. Aaaaaaaaaaaaaack!
>
>Still, seems a person should be able to Mcgyver something like that.
>Hmmmm...
>
>
>San Diego Joe
>4,000 - 5,000 Gallons.
>Koi, Goldfish, and RES named Colombo.
>
>
>
>
What I did this year, was purchase 50 lb test fishing line. Put up two
strands that look like a miniature ranch fence. Not bad looking at
all! Used the cheap wooden stakes you get from Lowes (or any store like
that) space them equidistance, install the fish line, and I have not
lost anymore fish this season (so far! :-P ) to herons.
Cost? $1.50 for the fishing line and the stakes were left over from 3
years ago when I put in the pond. :-) :-)
W. Dale

[Reel McKoi]

"Derek Broughton" > wrote in message
...
> Reel McKoi wrote:
>
> >
> > "Mike Patterson" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> Considering the light weight of the swingarm, I'd think you could
> >> cobble up a bracket out of about a 3" length of 1" aluminum angle.
> >> Oddly enough, I have all of those in my basement...hmmmm.
> > =========================
> > Would something swinging be a danger to small children? As the arm came
> > around it could clip them... :-(
>
> Ponds are a danger to small children... This specifically claims it won't
> hurt the heron, so it shouldn't be worse for kids. It looks like there's a
> 10' arm, and something dangling off the end. If the pointy bit is high
> enough to ensure it doesn't poke someone in the eye, and slow enough to
not
> hurt, it should be OK.
>
> I'm waiting for Mike's experimental results :-)
> --
> derek
==========================
I wish my problem was *only* herons. When we cleaned out the 800 gallon
pond last weekend we found a huge bullfrog in the schlock on the bottom. I
mean this was the mother of all bullfrogs. Although no koi were missing
only about 1/2 the Shubunkins were there. Two of my beautiful butterfly
ginrins had shredded tails. The shredded tails was the tip-off that
something got through the netting. We did find two tears near the ground.
We replaced the birdnetting around the bottom 18" with hardware cloth. Only
the smallest frogs can get through now. We also removed one real smelly
dead snake that commit hari-kari in the net where it ran through some large
Hostas.
--
McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
EVERYONE: "Please check people's headers for forgeries
before flushing." NAMES ARE BEING FORGED.
Do not feed the trolls.
~~~ }<((((o> ~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~ }<(((((o>

[Nedra]

I have to admit that I am a customer of the Pond Filtration folk.
The fellow who owns the place is really a nice friendly person. I'm
very surprised
at the price.... (although the PH 3000 pressurized filter cost upwards
of $300
in '96 - maybe '97) Actually this 'thing' looks very flimsy... and an
eye sore on top of everything else.

I do have some good news though ... Two guys from the pond society are
coming out to redo my
pond and the first thing to go is the Pond Filtration filter. I'm very
very happy about this as I have been rinsing the bags every other day!
No wonder I'm so
exhausted ... j/k

Nedra from Missouri
Zone 6

[kathy]

Nedra :-)))))))

Looking forward to posts on the pond redo!

Too much time rinsing is time away from
pond pondering - sitting and enjoying!

kathy :-)

[Mike Patterson]

On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 01:51:01 -0500, "Reel McKoi"
> wrote:

>
>"Mike Patterson" > wrote in message
...
>> Considering the light weight of the swingarm, I'd think you could
>> cobble up a bracket out of about a 3" length of 1" aluminum angle.
>> Oddly enough, I have all of those in my basement...hmmmm.
>=========================
>Would something swinging be a danger to small children? As the arm came
>around it could clip them... :-(

If they're out in the middle of my pond and I'm not there, then the
arm swinging around at 1 revolution every 10-15 seconds is NOT their
most pressing problem!

The arm's pivot point is out in the middle of the pond.

Are you the one who was afraid I'd destroy the planet with my fire &
water experiment? :-)

Mike
Mike Patterson
Please remove the spamtrap to email me.
"I always wanted to be somebody...I should have been more specific..." - Lily Tomlin

[Reel McKoi]

"Mike Patterson" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 01:51:01 -0500, "Reel McKoi"
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >"Mike Patterson" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> Considering the light weight of the swingarm, I'd think you could
> >> cobble up a bracket out of about a 3" length of 1" aluminum angle.
> >> Oddly enough, I have all of those in my basement...hmmmm.
> >=========================
> >Would something swinging be a danger to small children? As the arm came
> >around it could clip them... :-(
>
> If they're out in the middle of my pond and I'm not there, then the
> arm swinging around at 1 revolution every 10-15 seconds is NOT their
> most pressing problem!
>
> The arm's pivot point is out in the middle of the pond.
>
> Are you the one who was afraid I'd destroy the planet with my fire &
> water experiment? :-)
=========================
LOL!!! I don't think so........ :-))
--
McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
EVERYONE: "Please check people's headers for forgeries
before flushing." NAMES ARE BEING FORGED.
Do not feed the trolls.
~~~ }<((((o> ~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~ }<(((((o>

[~Roy~]

The price on that item is pretty well overinflated by about 400% After
seeing that device, I starated to look around on what can be used, and
so far I can make one in less than 2 hours for under
$90...........Anyone even half capable of doing odds and ends and a
little scrounging could assemble one of them pretty cheap and
easy...... Other than the motor, I can scrounge up or have already,
from my routine scrounge places all the materials to make them. Given
a bit of time I know I can find a motor as well. The motors used on
BBQ grill rotisseries can be had for under $20.00.......rpm is right
in the ball park, as is torque needed to swing it. A core from a lunge
whip or stock whip which is fiberglass or even an old CB whip antenna
could easily be used to the rotating part, and an antennae extension
mast from a base station could be used for the support arm. These
extension masts are easy to find as trash in places that sell
communications equipment as they frequently get opens or shorts in
them which renders them useless for communications.

Then the $95 S & H fee is absurd. I bet the entire device weighs less
than #30 pounds probably less..........add that to the $500 and some
charge for a unit as such ....its a rip once again aimed at the deep
pockets ponders and fish keepers are accused of having.

==============================================
Put some color in your cheeks...garden naked!
"The original frugal ponder"
~~~~ }<((((o> ~~~~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~~~~~ }<(((((o>

[Nedra]

Thanks Kathy ... your sweet comments were are total surprise to me and
very welcome.

The pond society is having the annual auction for the next several days
so the guys are otherwise occupied. I just hope they get here soon -
how lovely it will be to have this awful PF filter Gone!

Nedra from Missouri
zone 6