bouilding water fall

[HUNTER]

hi can someone give me suggested on building a water fall
i have got some slat it's 2" thick by 2ft / 1ft x10 i was after some info
on building a water fall with them so can you give me some ideas

thanks

[Greg Cooper]

I am no real expert from my single pond/stream/waterfall.
But here is a few things:
Make sure your lip rock is very level so that the water will come off it
evenly, use a level. You will need a can of the black expanding foam
to seal under the rocks so to force the water over them. Dry fit them
till you get the look you think you like then lift and foam them in.
You dont need to put a lot of foam as the stuff really expands!
You dont need a big drop to make a nice sound. When the water is on
watch for excessive splashing that may give you water loss. When you
see where the water is going you may need to adjust a bit till you get
the look you like.

HUNTER wrote:
> hi can someone give me suggested on building a water fall
> i have got some slat it's 2" thick by 2ft / 1ft x10 i was after some info
> on building a water fall with them so can you give me some ideas
>
> thanks
>
>

[HUNTER]

Are there any dos and don'ts when it comes to doing a waterfall?
With send and morter and using concrete blocks for outside support
And providing levels in your waterfall.

Thanks hunter



"Greg Cooper" > wrote in message
news:Ecrve.59473$wr.33160@clgrps12...
> I am no real expert from my single pond/stream/waterfall.
> But here is a few things:
> Make sure your lip rock is very level so that the water will come off it
> evenly, use a level. You will need a can of the black expanding foam
> to seal under the rocks so to force the water over them. Dry fit them
> till you get the look you think you like then lift and foam them in.
> You dont need to put a lot of foam as the stuff really expands!
> You dont need a big drop to make a nice sound. When the water is on
> watch for excessive splashing that may give you water loss. When you
> see where the water is going you may need to adjust a bit till you get
> the look you like.
>
> HUNTER wrote:
> > hi can someone give me suggested on building a water fall
> > i have got some slat it's 2" thick by 2ft / 1ft x10 i was after some
info
> > on building a water fall with them so can you give me some ideas
> >
> > thanks
> >
> >

[Roy]

Check out http://www.wernersponds.com/waterfall.html

Its only one method, but about the only difference would be to mortar
your rocks etc into place, but its not a requirement by any means. It
has pros and cons in using mortar as it has potential to crack and
requires more time, but its done all the time as well as laid up dry
as in the url listed above. It is hard to make a completely sealed
surface under the waterfall and spill way as over time it will crack,
and leaks can be a bear to find, so using some heavy grade liner to
build on is a good idea IMHO, and then those minor cracks will not be
a headache later on.

On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:18:35 GMT, "HUNTER" > wrote:

>===<>Are there any dos and don'ts when it comes to doing a waterfall?
>===<>With send and morter and using concrete blocks for outside support
>===<>And providing levels in your waterfall.
>===<>
>===<>Thanks hunter
>===<>
>===<>
>===<>
>===<>"Greg Cooper" > wrote in message
>===<>news:Ecrve.59473$wr.33160@clgrps12...
>===<>> I am no real expert from my single pond/stream/waterfall.
>===<>> But here is a few things:
>===<>> Make sure your lip rock is very level so that the water will come off it
>===<>> evenly, use a level. You will need a can of the black expanding foam
>===<>> to seal under the rocks so to force the water over them. Dry fit them
>===<>> till you get the look you think you like then lift and foam them in.
>===<>> You dont need to put a lot of foam as the stuff really expands!
>===<>> You dont need a big drop to make a nice sound. When the water is on
>===<>> watch for excessive splashing that may give you water loss. When you
>===<>> see where the water is going you may need to adjust a bit till you get
>===<>> the look you like.
>===<>>
>===<>> HUNTER wrote:
>===<>> > hi can someone give me suggested on building a water fall
>===<>> > i have got some slat it's 2" thick by 2ft / 1ft x10 i was after some
>===<>info
>===<>> > on building a water fall with them so can you give me some ideas
>===<>> >
>===<>> > thanks
>===<>> >
>===<>> >
>===<>


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[~ janj JJsPond.us]

On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:18:35 GMT, "HUNTER" > wrote:

>Are there any dos and don'ts when it comes to doing a waterfall?
>With send and morter and using concrete blocks for outside support
>And providing levels in your waterfall.
>
>Thanks hunter

Water can run uphill. If you put two liners together to make the run, there
is a certain amount of wicking that can happen between the two liners, so
overlap needs to be extensive or seam it.

Don't do anything solid till the waterfall has run a while. This includes
not trimming of the liner. Dry stack everything and let it run, make it
bigger to handle more flow than you currently have. ~ jan


See my ponds and filter design:
www.jjspond.us

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website

[Gabrielle]

>>Are there any dos and don'ts when it comes to doing a waterfall?
>>With send and morter and using concrete blocks for outside support
>>And providing levels in your waterfall.
>>
>>Thanks hunter
>
>
> Water can run uphill. If you put two liners together to make the run, there
> is a certain amount of wicking that can happen between the two liners, so
> overlap needs to be extensive or seam it.
>
This is a lesson I learned the hard way -- and it hold true for folds in
a liner. If water gets in the fold, it can have a siphon effect.
Gabrielle

> Don't do anything solid till the waterfall has run a while. This includes
> not trimming of the liner. Dry stack everything and let it run, make it
> bigger to handle more flow than you currently have. ~ jan
>
>
> See my ponds and filter design:
> www.jjspond.us
>
> ~Keep 'em Wet!~
> Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
> To e-mail see website

[matrix j]

[~ janj JJsPond.us]

On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 14:14:13 -0500, (matrix j) wrote:

>
Your last 3 messages, that I've opened, have been blank. ~ jan

~Power to the Porg, Flow On!~

[Courageous]

>On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 14:14:13 -0500, (matrix j) wrote:

>Your last 3 messages, that I've opened, have been blank. ~ jan

Same here. All of them are blank.

C//

[~ janj JJsPond.us]

>>On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 14:14:13 -0500, (matrix j) wrote:
>>Your last 3 messages, that I've opened, have been blank. ~ jan
>
>Same here. All of them are blank.
>C//

K, at least I know it's not me. ;) ~ jan


~Power to the Porg, Flow On!~

[pedro]

Roy Wrote:
> Check out http://tinyurl.com/flgof
>
> Its only one method, but about the only difference would be to mortar
> your rocks etc into place, but its not a requirement by any means. It
> has pros and cons in using mortar as it has potential to crack and
> requires more time, but its done all the time as well as laid up dry
> as in the url listed above. It is hard to make a completely sealed
> surface under the waterfall and spill way as over time it will crack,
> and leaks can be a bear to find, so using some heavy grade liner to
> build on is a good idea IMHO, and then those minor cracks will not be
> a headache later on.
>
> On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:18:35 GMT, "HUNTER" wrote:
> -
> ===Are there any dos and don'ts when it comes to doing a waterfall?
> ===With send and morter and using concrete blocks for outside support
> ===And providing levels in your waterfall.
> ===
> ===Thanks hunter
> ===
> ===
> ===
> ==="Greg Cooper" wrote in message
> ===news:Ecrve.59473$wr.33160@clgrps12...
> === I am no real expert from my single pond/stream/waterfall.
> === But here is a few things:
> === Make sure your lip rock is very level so that the water will come
> off it
> === evenly, use a level. You will need a can of the black expanding
> foam
> === to seal under the rocks so to force the water over them. Dry fit
> them
> === till you get the look you think you like then lift and foam them
> in.
> === You dont need to put a lot of foam as the stuff really expands!
> === You dont need a big drop to make a nice sound. When the water is
> on
> === watch for excessive splashing that may give you water loss. When
> you
> === see where the water is going you may need to adjust a bit till you
> get
> === the look you like.
> ===
> === HUNTER wrote:
> === hi can someone give me suggested on building a water fall
> === i have got some slat it's 2" thick by 2ft / 1ft x10 i was after
> some
> ===info
> === on building a water fall with them so can you give me some ideas
> ===
> === thanks
> ===
> ===
> ===-
>
>
> ==============================================
> Put some color in your cheeks...garden naked!
> "The original frugal ponder"
> ~~~~ }((((o ~~~~~~ }{{{{o ~~~~~~~ }(((((o



Hi
with regard to this black foam can you tell me where I can get it from.
Its proving a bit elusive.
cheers
P




--
pedro