Dechlorinating Water for Pond

[Mickey]

I have a 3000 gallon pond that I normally top off using my well water. The
house is on city water, the well pump quit after 17 years and it is getting
replaced. I need to top off the pond with about 200 gallons of water. Anyone
else here ever buy a applicator for fertilizer that goes on the end of hose
, mix the appropriate amount of water and dechlorinater in the jug and top
off there pond? I am doing it as I write this, I actually put twice the
required amount of dechlorinator in the jug and put enough for 2500 gallons
at the intake of the pump to spread it around. How do other people deal with
this when you use city water?

[Reel Mckoi]

"Mickey" > wrote in message
...
> I have a 3000 gallon pond that I normally top off using my well water. The
> house is on city water, the well pump quit after 17 years and it is
getting
> replaced. I need to top off the pond with about 200 gallons of water.
Anyone
> else here ever buy a applicator for fertilizer that goes on the end of
hose
> , mix the appropriate amount of water and dechlorinater in the jug and top
> off there pond? I am doing it as I write this, I actually put twice the
> required amount of dechlorinator in the jug and put enough for 2500
gallons
> at the intake of the pump to spread it around. How do other people deal
with
> this when you use city water?
============================
I use a garden or greenhouse water wand to top up our ponds. I don't use a
dechlorinator unless I'm replacing maybe 25% of the water, or more. Our
Water Company doesn't use a lot of chlorine in the water.
--
McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
EVERYONE: "Please check people's headers for forgeries
before flushing." NAMES ARE BEING FORGED.
My Pond Page http://tinyurl.com/cuq5b
~~~ }<((((o> ~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~ }<(((((o>

[Courageous]

>Anyone else here ever buy a applicator for fertilizer that goes on the end of hose
>, mix the appropriate amount of water and dechlorinater in the jug and top
>off there pond?

No, but it's a grand idea. It's basically an upside down venturi, that sucks
your application fluid into the jet stream. Quite clever of you. :)

>I am doing it as I write this, I actually put twice the
>required amount of dechlorinator

Not necessary, really, but also not harmful.

Don't quote me on this, but I suspect that you don't really need to dechlor
a 200 g top off for a 3000 gallon pond. But hey, better safe than sorry!
Anyway, as I'm admitting to being fuzzy about your amount (10%), why not
google around and see what the net thinks?

>at the intake of the pump to spread it around. How do other people deal with
>this when you use city water?

Small daily top offs don't really need dechlor, as the chlorine is both dilute
and quickly degasses out of your pond.

If your municipal water district happens to use chloramine (which they may
at any time, without notice, even if they generally don't), the top off will
still evaporate generally, as long as the amount is small.

In aquaria, the zealous often use reverse osmosis (RO) filters on their top
off water. I suspect that a 3000 G pond would put a lot of stress on any
/affordable/ RO unit, though...

C//

[Jim Beasley]

I bought one of those filters that use a cannister filter-the kind you mount
under the kitchen sink. Got 1 at Wally World for 27 bucks, with the
chlorine cartridge, added a couple parts to adapt to hose, and a valve, and
a shower head (just in case). About 36 bucks, but replacement cartridges
are only 7 bucks. Made a stand for it, works great! Also use for Mama's
"sensitive" plants.
"Mickey" > wrote in message
...
>I have a 3000 gallon pond that I normally top off using my well water. The
>house is on city water, the well pump quit after 17 years and it is getting
>replaced. I need to top off the pond with about 200 gallons of water.
>Anyone else here ever buy a applicator for fertilizer that goes on the end
>of hose , mix the appropriate amount of water and dechlorinater in the jug
>and top off there pond? I am doing it as I write this, I actually put twice
>the required amount of dechlorinator in the jug and put enough for 2500
>gallons at the intake of the pump to spread it around. How do other people
>deal with this when you use city water?
>

[~ janj JJsPond.us]

On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 18:37:55 -0500, "Mickey" > wrote:

>I have a 3000 gallon pond that I normally top off using my well water. The
>house is on city water, the well pump quit after 17 years and it is getting
>replaced. I need to top off the pond with about 200 gallons of water. Anyone
>else here ever buy a applicator for fertilizer that goes on the end of hose
>, mix the appropriate amount of water and dechlorinater in the jug and top
>off there pond? I am doing it as I write this, I actually put twice the
>required amount of dechlorinator in the jug and put enough for 2500 gallons
>at the intake of the pump to spread it around. How do other people deal with
>this when you use city water?
>
That's clever. I'm sure this is labeled under YMMV due to set up. In my
case I put the hose at the top of the stream and put dry dechlor. in the
pump chamber. ~ jan


See my ponds and filter design:
www.jjspond.us

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website

[George]

"Mickey" > wrote in message
...
>I have a 3000 gallon pond that I normally top off using my well water. The
>house is on city water, the well pump quit after 17 years and it is
>getting replaced. I need to top off the pond with about 200 gallons of
>water. Anyone else here ever buy a applicator for fertilizer that goes on
>the end of hose , mix the appropriate amount of water and dechlorinater in
>the jug and top off there pond? I am doing it as I write this, I actually
>put twice the required amount of dechlorinator in the jug and put enough
>for 2500 gallons at the intake of the pump to spread it around. How do
>other people deal with this when you use city water?

It doesn't hurt anything, but there is no need to use so much
dechlorinator. You are simply wasting it. In fact, with the size of your
pond, 200 gallons of chlorinated water, if added with a vigorous spray from
a nozzle, is about all you need do. When I top off the water, I always use
city water, and only use a squirt of decholorinator. Never lost a fish or
plant yet because of it.

[RichToyBox]

The canisters scare me. I have had two members of our watergarden club have
the filters fail and kill fish. If you are going to use them, then you
really need a chlorine test kit and check the outflow frequently to see when
it is full and stops working. In one case, it was like it started in
reverse. The water coming out of the filter had a higher chlorine level
than the water going into the filter. It read as high safe for a swimming
pool.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html

"Jim Beasley" > wrote in message
news:bykAe.145019$_o.118469@attbi_s71...
>I bought one of those filters that use a cannister filter-the kind you
>mount under the kitchen sink. Got 1 at Wally World for 27 bucks, with the
>chlorine cartridge, added a couple parts to adapt to hose, and a valve, and
>a shower head (just in case). About 36 bucks, but replacement cartridges
>are only 7 bucks. Made a stand for it, works great! Also use for Mama's
>"sensitive" plants.
> "Mickey" > wrote in message
> ...
>>I have a 3000 gallon pond that I normally top off using my well water. The
>>house is on city water, the well pump quit after 17 years and it is
>>getting replaced. I need to top off the pond with about 200 gallons of
>>water. Anyone else here ever buy a applicator for fertilizer that goes on
>>the end of hose , mix the appropriate amount of water and dechlorinater in
>>the jug and top off there pond? I am doing it as I write this, I actually
>>put twice the required amount of dechlorinator in the jug and put enough
>>for 2500 gallons at the intake of the pump to spread it around. How do
>>other people deal with this when you use city water?
>>
>
>

[Jim Beasley]

Didn't think of that, but I will keep an eye on it. Thanks !!
"RichToyBox" > wrote in message
...
> The canisters scare me. I have had two members of our watergarden club
> have the filters fail and kill fish. If you are going to use them, then
> you really need a chlorine test kit and check the outflow frequently to
> see when it is full and stops working. In one case, it was like it
> started in reverse. The water coming out of the filter had a higher
> chlorine level than the water going into the filter. It read as high safe
> for a swimming pool.
> --
> RichToyBox
> http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html
>
> "Jim Beasley" > wrote in message
> news:bykAe.145019$_o.118469@attbi_s71...
>>I bought one of those filters that use a cannister filter-the kind you
>>mount under the kitchen sink. Got 1 at Wally World for 27 bucks, with the
>>chlorine cartridge, added a couple parts to adapt to hose, and a valve,
>>and a shower head (just in case). About 36 bucks, but replacement
>>cartridges are only 7 bucks. Made a stand for it, works great! Also use
>>for Mama's "sensitive" plants.
>> "Mickey" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>I have a 3000 gallon pond that I normally top off using my well water.
>>>The house is on city water, the well pump quit after 17 years and it is
>>>getting replaced. I need to top off the pond with about 200 gallons of
>>>water. Anyone else here ever buy a applicator for fertilizer that goes on
>>>the end of hose , mix the appropriate amount of water and dechlorinater
>>>in the jug and top off there pond? I am doing it as I write this, I
>>>actually put twice the required amount of dechlorinator in the jug and
>>>put enough for 2500 gallons at the intake of the pump to spread it
>>>around. How do other people deal with this when you use city water?
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

[Reel Mckoi]

"Jim Beasley" > wrote in message
news:voxAe.145522$x96.127613@attbi_s72...
> Didn't think of that, but I will keep an eye on it. Thanks !!
=================
Chlorine can kill quickly. I partly drained, then refilled what I thought
was a fishless plant pool a few weeks ago. I had no idea a few small
goldfish were hiding among the plants. Not long afterward I went back there
to feed fry and saw several dead fish floating at the surface. :*(
--
McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
EVERYONE: "Please check people's headers for forgeries
before flushing." NAMES ARE BEING FORGED.
My Pond Page http://tinyurl.com/cuq5b
~~~ }<((((o> ~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~ }<(((((o>

[Roy]

I really think Jim is smart enough to know that Chlorine can
kill...............everyone is not as big a dumba$$ as you are.......




On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 12:10:04 -0500, babbling idiot "Reel Mckoi"
> wrote:


>===<>Chlorine can kill quickly.

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Put some color in your cheeks...garden naked!
"The original frugal ponder"
~~~~ }<((((o> ~~~~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~~~~~ }<(((((o>

[Gib]

"Mickey" > wrote in message
...
>I have a 3000 gallon pond that I normally top off using my well water. The
>house is on city water, the well pump quit after 17 years and it is getting
>replaced. I need to top off the pond with about 200 gallons of water.
>Anyone else here ever buy a applicator for fertilizer that goes on the end
>of hose , mix the appropriate amount of water and dechlorinater in the jug
>and top off there pond? I am doing it as I write this, I actually put twice
>the required amount of dechlorinator in the jug and put enough for 2500
>gallons at the intake of the pump to spread it around. How do other people
>deal with this when you use city water?


I do about that amount every day with city water, and haven't used dechlor
at all. On the few occasions I have done closer to a 50% change, I've used
it, just dumbed it in and proceeded to fill the pond. The fish have not
been bothered at all.
I would probably do it differently if I thought there were chloramines in
the water, but as far as I know, there aren't.

[San Diego Joe]

"George" wrote:

<snip>

> if added with a vigorous spray from
> a nozzle, is about all you need do. When I top off the water, I always use
> city water, and only use a squirt of decholorinator. Never lost a fish or
> plant yet because of it.
>
>
I've heard this spray mentioned before. Can you enlighten me? How does this
get rid of chlorine?

Thanks,

San Diego Joe
4,000 - 5,000 Gallons.
Koi, Goldfish, and RES named Colombo.

[Reel Mckoi]

"San Diego Joe" > wrote in message
...
> "George" wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> > if added with a vigorous spray from
> > a nozzle, is about all you need do. When I top off the water, I always
use
> > city water, and only use a squirt of decholorinator. Never lost a fish
or
> > plant yet because of it.
> >
> >
> I've heard this spray mentioned before. Can you enlighten me? How does
this
> get rid of chlorine?
=========================
It dissipates in the air as it's being sprayed. I keep the water-wand
sprayhead 24" or more from the surface. This allows some or most of the
chlorine to escape as the streams of water leave the wand head and hit the
pond surface.
--
McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
EVERYONE: "Please check people's headers for forgeries
before flushing." NAMES ARE BEING FORGED.
My Pond Page http://tinyurl.com/cuq5b
~~~ }<((((o> ~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~ }<(((((o>

[Courageous]

>I really think Jim is smart enough to know that Chlorine can
>kill...............everyone is not as big a dumba$$ as you are.......

Remarks like this reveal far more about the person making them
than they do about the person being so treated.

C//

[Roy]

Hey courageous......the offer still stands, your welcome to bite my
ass any time your up to it. Its little twerps like you that like to
broaden the so called problems..now come bite my back side and shut
up.

On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 18:41:14 -0700, another peanut from the peanut
gallery named Courageous fell off their fat backside and scribbled
> scribbled after the first imbecile named
Reel Mckoi scratched about chlorine being dangerous.........duh!


>===<>Remarks like this reveal far more about the person making them
>===<>than they do about the person being so treated.
>===<>
>===<>C//


==============================================
Put some color in your cheeks...garden naked!
"The original frugal ponder"
~~~~ }<((((o> ~~~~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~~~~~ }<(((((o>

[Courageous]

>>===<>Remarks like this reveal far more about the person making them
>>===<>than they do about the person being so treated.

>Hey courageous......the offer still stands, your welcome to bite my
>ass any time your up to it. Its little twerps like you that like to
>broaden the so called problems..now come bite my back side and shut
>up.

Redoubling your efforts will only double the above results.

C//

[George]

"San Diego Joe" > wrote in message
...
> "George" wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> if added with a vigorous spray from
>> a nozzle, is about all you need do. When I top off the water, I always
>> use
>> city water, and only use a squirt of decholorinator. Never lost a fish
>> or
>> plant yet because of it.
>>
>>
> I've heard this spray mentioned before. Can you enlighten me? How does
> this
> get rid of chlorine?
>
> Thanks,
>
> San Diego Joe
> 4,000 - 5,000 Gallons.
> Koi, Goldfish, and RES named Colombo.
>

Chlorine has a low vapor pressure, and since there is very little natural
chlorine in the atmosphere, it will outgas from water rather easily when
the water is agitated. As proof of this, if you have city water with
chlorine, and you turn your faucet on, you should get a little whiff of
chlorine as the water flows out of the faucet. So if you use a good nozzle
on your garden hose, and pinch it down some, you should get a moderately
dispersed spray and then spray the water at the surface of your pond. The
vigorous bubbling will cause the chlorine to outgas. In addition, some will
be neutralized by unfixed dechlor already in your water It is fairly
persistent), and the rest will be diluted and eventually evaporate since
you are adding a small amount of water to a relatively large pond. Having
said all of this, you should be aware of whether or not your water company
uses chloramine, which is quite a different animal, as it is more
persistent in water, and can be very toxic to aquatic life. Fortunately,
most water companies today are required to neutralize the chlorimine to low
levels before it goes out to their customers. If you have chloramine in
your water, it is recommended to use a dechlor agent that specifically
removes chloramine. Having said that, unless the concentration is
unusually high, you shouldn't have any problems with adding this small
amount to your pond. If in doubt, add some dechlor, but don't overdo it,
because that is just wasting the product. I have chloramine in my tap
water. If I do a 10% water change, I just agitate the water. If I do a
20% change, I agitate the water and add some dechlor, but not a lot. Good
luck.

[Mickey]

Fish are still alive and pigs so I am happy.

"Mickey" > wrote in message
...
>I have a 3000 gallon pond that I normally top off using my well water. The
>house is on city water, the well pump quit after 17 years and it is getting
>replaced. I need to top off the pond with about 200 gallons of water.
>Anyone else here ever buy a applicator for fertilizer that goes on the end
>of hose , mix the appropriate amount of water and dechlorinater in the jug
>and top off there pond? I am doing it as I write this, I actually put twice
>the required amount of dechlorinator in the jug and put enough for 2500
>gallons at the intake of the pump to spread it around. How do other people
>deal with this when you use city water?
>

[George]

"Mickey" > wrote in message
...
> Fish are still alive and pigs so I am happy.

Good to hear.

>
> "Mickey" > wrote in message
> ...
>>I have a 3000 gallon pond that I normally top off using my well water.
>>The house is on city water, the well pump quit after 17 years and it is
>>getting replaced. I need to top off the pond with about 200 gallons of
>>water. Anyone else here ever buy a applicator for fertilizer that goes on
>>the end of hose , mix the appropriate amount of water and dechlorinater
>>in the jug and top off there pond? I am doing it as I write this, I
>>actually put twice the required amount of dechlorinator in the jug and
>>put enough for 2500 gallons at the intake of the pump to spread it
>>around. How do other people deal with this when you use city water?
>>
>
>

[Lt. Kizhe Catson]

Mickey wrote:
> I have a 3000 gallon pond that I normally top off using my well water. The
> house is on city water, the well pump quit after 17 years and it is getting
> replaced. I need to top off the pond with about 200 gallons of water. Anyone
> else here ever buy a applicator for fertilizer that goes on the end of hose
> , mix the appropriate amount of water and dechlorinater in the jug and top
> off there pond? I am doing it as I write this, I actually put twice the
> required amount of dechlorinator in the jug and put enough for 2500 gallons
> at the intake of the pump to spread it around. How do other people deal with
> this when you use city water?

My 2c worth a bit late, but:

I've never worried about pre-mixing the dechlor with the top-up water.
I just drop the hose over-hanging the pond a bit and let 'er rip. The
dechlor I either pour in where the hose stream enters the water, or dump
it in the waterfall (the idea being to get the dechlor distributed into
the pond).

Of course, I'm rarely adding more than 10%, so it's not all that
critical anyway.

-- Kizhe

[Roy]

I can go on for ever dumbass Keep replying and so will I.........I
have nothing but timne on my hands for the most part...now you gonna
bite my ass or kill file me.........not that it really matters to
me..........


On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 19:46:47 -0700, Courageous
> wrote:

>===<>
>===<>>>===<>Remarks like this reveal far more about the person making them
>===<>>>===<>than they do about the person being so treated.
>===<>
>===<>>Hey courageous......the offer still stands, your welcome to bite my
>===<>>ass any time your up to it. Its little twerps like you that like to
>===<>>broaden the so called problems..now come bite my back side and shut
>===<>>up.
>===<>
>===<>Redoubling your efforts will only double the above results.
>===<>
>===<>C//


==============================================
Put some color in your cheeks...garden naked!
"The original frugal ponder"
~~~~ }<((((o> ~~~~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~~~~~ }<(((((o>

[Courageous]

>I can go on for ever dumbass Keep replying and so will I.........I
>have nothing but timne on my hands for the most part...now you gonna
>bite my ass or kill file me.........not that it really matters to
>me..........

I can believe all this.

C//