I hate doing this

[Victor Martinez]

but I need to euthanize of my peruvian angelfish. :(
He (she?) was found idling upside-down between some plants. His fins
look torn and both eyes cloudy. When I tried to trap him, he swam away,
but stayed hidden between plants. He hasn't eaten in two days and still
looks bad. I think I ought to put him out of his misery.
I hate doing this.

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[Nikki Casali]

Victor Martinez wrote:

> but I need to euthanize of my peruvian angelfish. :(
> He (she?) was found idling upside-down between some plants. His fins
> look torn and both eyes cloudy. When I tried to trap him, he swam away,
> but stayed hidden between plants. He hasn't eaten in two days and still
> looks bad. I think I ought to put him out of his misery.
> I hate doing this.
>

I'm sorry to hear this. This is the worst part of fish keeping. I had to
recently euthanize an angelfish with a debilitating tumour. She had just
about put up with it for 6 months. It restricted her movements
gradually, and I knew there'd come the day when I'd have to do the
horrible deed. One morning I found her resting sideways stuffed in
between the watersprite. She had started using the watersprite daily as
a crutch, pushing herself in between where she could completely relax
and maintain a posture. That morning she darted out of the plant and had
absolutely no control. There was nothing I could do for her anymore, and
I knew the clove oil was the best and kindest option for her.

Have you tried any type of medication? Is he managing to swim upright?

Nikki

[Victor Martinez]

Nikki Casali wrote:
> Have you tried any type of medication? Is he managing to swim upright?

I can't even diagnose what it is, though I'm fairly sure he's blind now.
It all happened very, very quickly. He seems to be able to keep upright,
but because he can't see, he's not eating.

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[me myself and the rest of us]

clove oil... do a google search. probably the most humane method

"Victor Martinez" > wrote in message
...
> Nikki Casali wrote:
>> Have you tried any type of medication? Is he managing to swim upright?
>
> I can't even diagnose what it is, though I'm fairly sure he's blind now.
> It all happened very, very quickly. He seems to be able to keep upright,
> but because he can't see, he's not eating.
>
> --
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[Victor Martinez]

me myself and the rest of us wrote:
> clove oil... do a google search. probably the most humane method

I doubt it... :) The most humane method is what I used, physical force
to whack its little brains out. :(

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[Dick]

On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 02:53:32 GMT, Victor Martinez >
wrote:

>me myself and the rest of us wrote:
>> clove oil... do a google search. probably the most humane method
>
>I doubt it... :) The most humane method is what I used, physical force
>to whack its little brains out. :(

I use the inside of the toilet bowl as the target and throw as hard as
I can. I hope it is over quickly for the fish, but once I flush the
remains, the worst is over for me. Out of sight, out of mind.

I know our concerns over fish strike some as over done with real
people dying and children starving and all the health and terrorist
problems facing the world, but that sick fish is right in my face
real.

dick

[me myself and the rest of us]

but... what if you don't hit it dead on, or at an angle? fish is not dead,
in intense pain, then you have to do it all over again... and the fish may
only be stunned going into the toilet and not breathing, but still alive.
clove oil works like an aenestetic (sp?) kindof.

heh heard of another way: if you use a python gravel cleaner, just suck the
fish up, instant decapitation... no messing with potential misses. you just
have to have good high water presure driving the pump on teh python.



"Dick" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 02:53:32 GMT, Victor Martinez >
> wrote:
>
>>me myself and the rest of us wrote:
>>> clove oil... do a google search. probably the most humane method
>>
>>I doubt it... :) The most humane method is what I used, physical force
>>to whack its little brains out. :(
>
> I use the inside of the toilet bowl as the target and throw as hard as
> I can. I hope it is over quickly for the fish, but once I flush the
> remains, the worst is over for me. Out of sight, out of mind.
>
> I know our concerns over fish strike some as over done with real
> people dying and children starving and all the health and terrorist
> problems facing the world, but that sick fish is right in my face
> real.
>
> dick

[Victor Martinez]

me myself and the rest of us wrote:
> heh heard of another way: if you use a python gravel cleaner, just suck the
> fish up, instant decapitation... no messing with potential misses. you just
> have to have good high water presure driving the pump on teh python.

How exactly would a pithon decapitate a fish?

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[2pods]

"Victor Martinez" > wrote in message
.. .
> me myself and the rest of us wrote:
>> heh heard of another way: if you use a python gravel cleaner, just suck
>> the fish up, instant decapitation... no messing with potential misses.
>> you just have to have good high water presure driving the pump on teh
>> python.
>
> How exactly would a pithon decapitate a fish?

Too easily, I did it last week.
Usually, my danios like to swim in and out of the python attachment.
If they get into too much trouble, I'll cut the pressure and shake them out.
However, an emergency cropped up and I thought I'd switched the pressure off
(what I should have done was take the attachment OUT of the tank).

Came back, finished up, was coiling python up, and bits of danio were stuck
in the python drain, and yes, the head had been forced through separately.

It's bad enough it was only one Danio, but that's too many AFAIC, so if I
stop from now on the python comes out.

Peter

[Nikki Casali]

2pods wrote:

> "Victor Martinez" > wrote in message
> .. .
>
>>me myself and the rest of us wrote:
>>
>>>heh heard of another way: if you use a python gravel cleaner, just suck
>>>the fish up, instant decapitation... no messing with potential misses.
>>>you just have to have good high water presure driving the pump on teh
>>>python.
>>
>>How exactly would a pithon decapitate a fish?
>
>
> Too easily, I did it last week.
> Usually, my danios like to swim in and out of the python attachment.
> If they get into too much trouble, I'll cut the pressure and shake them out.
> However, an emergency cropped up and I thought I'd switched the pressure off
> (what I should have done was take the attachment OUT of the tank).
>
> Came back, finished up, was coiling python up, and bits of danio were stuck
> in the python drain, and yes, the head had been forced through separately.
>
> It's bad enough it was only one Danio, but that's too many AFAIC, so if I
> stop from now on the python comes out.

Nice. I'll keep to my old gravel cleaner!

Nikki

[Gill Passman]

"Nikki Casali" > wrote in message
...
> 2pods wrote:
>
> > "Victor Martinez" > wrote in message
> > .. .
> >
> >>me myself and the rest of us wrote:
> >>
> >>>heh heard of another way: if you use a python gravel cleaner, just suck
> >>>the fish up, instant decapitation... no messing with potential misses.
> >>>you just have to have good high water presure driving the pump on teh
> >>>python.
> >>
> >>How exactly would a pithon decapitate a fish?
> >
> >
> > Too easily, I did it last week.
> > Usually, my danios like to swim in and out of the python attachment.
> > If they get into too much trouble, I'll cut the pressure and shake them
out.
> > However, an emergency cropped up and I thought I'd switched the pressure
off
> > (what I should have done was take the attachment OUT of the tank).
> >
> > Came back, finished up, was coiling python up, and bits of danio were
stuck
> > in the python drain, and yes, the head had been forced through
separately.
> >
> > It's bad enough it was only one Danio, but that's too many AFAIC, so if
I
> > stop from now on the python comes out.
>
> Nice. I'll keep to my old gravel cleaner!
>
> Nikki
>
My oldest son, Chris, nearly decapitated a Flying Fox being over zealous
with our manual gravel cleaner....fortunately it "flew" but so fast that we
didn't see it move out of the way...there was that sickening moment when we
had to look not sure what we ould find...

BTW Chris no longer vacuums gravel....

Gill

[Nikki Casali]

Gill Passman wrote:

> "Nikki Casali" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>2pods wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"Victor Martinez" > wrote in message
.. .
>>>
>>>
>>>>me myself and the rest of us wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>heh heard of another way: if you use a python gravel cleaner, just suck
>>>>>the fish up, instant decapitation... no messing with potential misses.
>>>>>you just have to have good high water presure driving the pump on teh
>>>>>python.
>>>>
>>>>How exactly would a pithon decapitate a fish?
>>>
>>>
>>>Too easily, I did it last week.
>>>Usually, my danios like to swim in and out of the python attachment.
>>>If they get into too much trouble, I'll cut the pressure and shake them
>
> out.
>
>>>However, an emergency cropped up and I thought I'd switched the pressure
>
> off
>
>>>(what I should have done was take the attachment OUT of the tank).
>>>
>>>Came back, finished up, was coiling python up, and bits of danio were
>
> stuck
>
>>>in the python drain, and yes, the head had been forced through
>
> separately.
>
>>>It's bad enough it was only one Danio, but that's too many AFAIC, so if
>
> I
>
>>>stop from now on the python comes out.
>>
>>Nice. I'll keep to my old gravel cleaner!
>>
>>Nikki
>>
>
> My oldest son, Chris, nearly decapitated a Flying Fox being over zealous
> with our manual gravel cleaner....fortunately it "flew" but so fast that we
> didn't see it move out of the way...there was that sickening moment when we
> had to look not sure what we ould find...

I skipped the "nearly" the first time and missed a heart beat. It was
considerably less painful the second read. Phew!

> BTW Chris no longer vacuums gravel....

Can't blame him. I'm always paranoid about it.

Nikki