murder of button polyps

[Billy]

See, I liked them originally. They were cute. Then they
started....spreading. And spreading. And spreading. It's become what
can only be termed an infestation, making very real for me the lesson
that European reefers call these little darlings 'pest anemones'.
I have tried mashing them. I have tried squirting them with Kalk.
I have tried covering them with rockwork, but they still seem to get
enough light to persist....tell me...how does one murder a colony of
button polyps?

And before you mention it, the rock they're taking over is close to
30 pounds, over a third of the total LR in the tank.

--
billy

[Ray Martini]

Funny you should say that because I have button polyps and yellow colony
polyps and they just won't spread. I want them to a little but they just
don't. How long did it take them to start spreading?

One man's junk is another man's treasure!


"Billy" > wrote in message
...
> See, I liked them originally. They were cute. Then they
> started....spreading. And spreading. And spreading. It's become what can
> only be termed an infestation, making very real for me the lesson that
> European reefers call these little darlings 'pest anemones'.
> I have tried mashing them. I have tried squirting them with Kalk. I
> have tried covering them with rockwork, but they still seem to get enough
> light to persist....tell me...how does one murder a colony of button
> polyps?
>
> And before you mention it, the rock they're taking over is close to 30
> pounds, over a third of the total LR in the tank.
>
> --
> billy
>

[Billy]

"Ray Martini" > wrote in message
...
> Funny you should say that because I have button polyps and yellow
> colony polyps and they just won't spread. I want them to a little
> but they just don't. How long did it take them to start spreading?
>

They stayed sedentary for no more than a month. Now, I can't keep
them in one spot. As they are photosynthetic, perhaps light is the
key, but all I have is middle-o-the-road PowerCompact.
I already gave away the colonies that were on smaller pcs of LR,
and I'm left with the ones that spread onto the large hunks. After my
experience, it still seemed odd that they acted glad to get
them.....<g> I guess the bloke that gave me the 18" brittle star felt
the same way.......

billy

[Mark Elliott]

I found yellow polyp needs feeding (quite a lot) to get it to spread.

Mark

"Ray Martini" > wrote in message
...
> Funny you should say that because I have button polyps and yellow colony
> polyps and they just won't spread. I want them to a little but they just
> don't. How long did it take them to start spreading?
>
> One man's junk is another man's treasure!
>
>
> "Billy" > wrote in message
> ...
>> See, I liked them originally. They were cute. Then they
>> started....spreading. And spreading. And spreading. It's become what can
>> only be termed an infestation, making very real for me the lesson that
>> European reefers call these little darlings 'pest anemones'.
>> I have tried mashing them. I have tried squirting them with Kalk. I
>> have tried covering them with rockwork, but they still seem to get enough
>> light to persist....tell me...how does one murder a colony of button
>> polyps?
>>
>> And before you mention it, the rock they're taking over is close to 30
>> pounds, over a third of the total LR in the tank.
>>
>> --
>> billy
>>
>
>

[Pszemol]

"Billy" > wrote in message
...
> tell me...how does one murder a colony of button polyps?

The only way to do it is to peel them off the rock with some
wooden spatula. This way you will not destroy the tissue and
remove it as a whole thing. When not leaving any tissue
remainders on the rock you will solve your problem...

> And before you mention it, the rock they're taking over is
> close to 30 pounds, over a third of the total LR in the tank.

Too bad for you, but you have to take it out and peel them off.
Nobody said it will be easy to do - everything is trying to survive :-)

[Don Geddis]

"Billy" > wrote on Sat, 16 Jul 2005:
> See, I liked them originally. They were cute. Then they
> started....spreading. And spreading. And spreading. It's become what
> can only be termed an infestation

I had the same experience.

> tell me...how does one murder a colony of button polyps?

I got "lucky", in that a tank mini-crash seemed to change the water
parameters enough that they are no longer spreading, and in fact in the process
of a very slow decline (-10%/year?). Whereas they used to be doubling every
few months. Unfortunately, I don't know the difference between my tank before
and my tank after, as to why they spread before but not now. The remaining
ones sure look healthy, they just aren't spreading any more. Moreover, plenty
of other corals (plate/montipora, closed brain/maze) are growing like
gangbusters.

However, here's the one piece of advice I have for you: I also got a few
Aiptasia anemones, some of which were growing it the middle of my buttons
polyps. Squirted a bit of Joe's Juice into the mix to kill the Aiptasias.
Those are hearty little suckers, though, and while damaged, they appear to
be trying to survive and come back.

But: All the button polyps that were nearby where I squirted the Joe's Juice
died. If that's you're goal, you might want to try some anti-Aiptasia
solutions, and see if that can help control your button polyps.

-- Don
__________________________________________________ _____________________________
Don Geddis http://reef.geddis.org/
I prefer my lovers to be female, human, and breathing, but I'll take any two
out of three in a pinch.

[Billy]

"Don Geddis" > wrote in message
...


Don't you get huge amounts of spam as a result of posting your email
address, unmunged, on USENET?


billy

[Billy]

"Pszemol" > wrote in message
...
>
> Too bad for you, but you have to take it out and peel them off.
> Nobody said it will be easy to do - everything is trying to survive
> :-)


Yeah, I think I've admitted this to myself. Ah well, I didn't have
any plans next weekend. I don't mind so much the actual removal of a
hunk of LR, but whenever I do something like that, I always find
other things that "have to be done" and I spend all day covered in SW
and smelling of skimmate. <g>

billy

[Xerces]

Its all about getting them spread out in a way that is
constructive.... :->

I've got them hiding an ugly powerhead here and covering the back
glass
http://community.webshots.com/photo/236290540/395300971sjCwLw

http://aquariacanada.com/PhotoPost/showphoto.php?photo=958&password=&sort=1&cat=500&page=1

I love them!

[Billy]

"Xerces" > wrote in message
...
> Its all about getting them spread out in a way that is
> constructive.... :->
>
> I've got them hiding an ugly powerhead here and covering the back
> glass
> http://community.webshots.com/photo/236290540/395300971sjCwLw
>
> http://aquariacanada.com/PhotoPost/showphoto.php?photo=958&password=&sort=1&cat=500&page=1
>


Sadly, second pic requires registration. I'm in awe of what I can see
of your tank, from what I understand, Canadian reefers have to work
much harder than us silly 'merkins to find equipment and stock, and
spend much more money. Well done, it's beautiful.

billy

[Xerces]

Sorry, try this link

http://community.webshots.com/photo/236290540/397864107SolTsH

Under all that is a Hagen 202 powerhead :-P

[Xerces]

I look at US sites and drool... soo much stock, so cheap! We Canucks
have been known to drive over the border to get a bag of Southdown!
:-( Ya'll have it made, cheap HW and lots of great livestock. On the
plus side of living here on the East coast I can and do use natural
seawater.

[George Patterson]

Xerces wrote:
> Sorry, try this link
>
> http://community.webshots.com/photo/236290540/397864107SolTsH
>
> Under all that is a Hagen 202 powerhead :-P


How do they get any food?

George Patterson
Why do men's hearts beat faster, knees get weak, throats become dry,
and they think irrationally when a woman wears leather clothing?
Because she smells like a new truck.

[Xerces]

I am generous with the feeding and they pick up whatever floats their
way. Given the way they have spread out over the glass I know they are
not starving! :->

[George Patterson]

Xerces wrote:
> I am generous with the feeding and they pick up whatever floats their
> way. Given the way they have spread out over the glass I know they are
> not starving! :->

Hummm.... I just bought a chunk of rock with some brown ones on it. I've been
making sure they get enough to eat. Considering Billy's problems, maybe I
shouldn't feed them so much.

George Patterson
Why do men's hearts beat faster, knees get weak, throats become dry,
and they think irrationally when a woman wears leather clothing?
Because she smells like a new truck.

[Ray Martini]

Great pictures! I notice your Copperband and Marine Beta. They don't bother
the polyps and corals? The LFS here says neither one of those fish are reef
safe.


"Xerces" > wrote in message
...
> Its all about getting them spread out in a way that is
> constructive.... :->
>
> I've got them hiding an ugly powerhead here and covering the back
> glass
> http://community.webshots.com/photo/236290540/395300971sjCwLw
>
> http://aquariacanada.com/PhotoPost/showphoto.php?photo=958&password=&sort=1&cat=500&page=1
>
> I love them!

[Xerces]

The Beta is a perfect tank mate to all the other fish and inverts. I
have him trained to eat from the end of a turkey baster. The CB took
out my feather dusters and aptastia. Other then that he is a great
fish (a real mooch, always looking for snacks!)

On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 11:41:40 -0400, "Ray Martini"
> wrote:

>Great pictures! I notice your Copperband and Marine Beta. They don't bother
>the polyps and corals? The LFS here says neither one of those fish are reef
>safe.
>
>
>"Xerces" > wrote in message
...
>> Its all about getting them spread out in a way that is
>> constructive.... :->
>>
>> I've got them hiding an ugly powerhead here and covering the back
>> glass
>> http://community.webshots.com/photo/236290540/395300971sjCwLw
>>
>> http://aquariacanada.com/PhotoPost/showphoto.php?photo=958&password=&sort=1&cat=500&page=1
>>
>> I love them!
>

[Don Geddis]

"Billy" > wrote on Sun, 17 Jul 2005:
> Don't you get huge amounts of spam as a result of posting your email
> address, unmunged, on USENET?

Yes :-).

But I've got at least one email address, still valid, which has been working
since about 1986 or so. Keeping spam away from my email doesn't seem feasible.
Meanwhile, all the "munging" solutions make it harder for ordinary people to
contact me.

So I've been forced to deal with spam on the receive side. Some combination of
the obvious stuff (a huge whitelist, built over years; Bayesian filtering,
SpamAssassin, etc.) does an excellent job of categorizing my incoming email,
and there is very little spam that I need to process manually.

But yes, it's a hard problem with no great solution.

-- Don
__________________________________________________ _____________________________
Don Geddis http://reef.geddis.org/
No computer has ever been designed that is ever aware of what it's doing; but
most of the time, we aren't either. -- Marvin Minsky

[Rene Brehmer]

Documented research indicate that on Tue, 19 Jul 2005 14:52:20 -0700, Don
Geddis wrote:

> "Billy" > wrote on Sun, 17 Jul 2005:
>> Don't you get huge amounts of spam as a result of posting your email
>> address, unmunged, on USENET?
>
> Yes :-).
>
> But I've got at least one email address, still valid, which has been working
> since about 1986 or so. Keeping spam away from my email doesn't seem feasible.
> Meanwhile, all the "munging" solutions make it harder for ordinary people to
> contact me.
>
> So I've been forced to deal with spam on the receive side. Some combination of
> the obvious stuff (a huge whitelist, built over years; Bayesian filtering,
> SpamAssassin, etc.) does an excellent job of categorizing my incoming email,
> and there is very little spam that I need to process manually.
>
> But yes, it's a hard problem with no great solution.

Seperate public and private email by using different accounts/aliases. I
use a system of about 50 aliases for my 1 email account, one alias for each
type of service. Then when one alias gets overrun by spam, I simply remove
it from my list, and create a new one ... that way I've been 99% spam free
for over 2 years ...

I use a few custom made spam filters that look for patterns and word
structures in subjects and bodies, reducing the amount of spam that
actually gets through to a handful each month.

Personally I have a much bigger problem with virus and worms coming to my
email, forcing the antivirus to work overtime to keep them out.

--
Rene Brehmer
aka Metalbunny

We have nothing to fear from free speech and free information on the
Internet, but pop-up advertising!

http://metalbunny.net/
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