aiptasia

[Ken]

Hello Again,

Have a quick question. On a new piece of live rock I have what may be
Aiptasia. I will remove it if indeed it is. From the photos I can find it is
similar in appearance, but when touch it can totally retract into the rock.
Is this a common trait of Aiptasia? Being a anemone I thought this behavior
was a bit strange.

Ken

[Ken]

The two of them were on a very small piece of live rock I was cycling in a
tub in my garage. I removed the rock and placed it in a small amoumt of RO
water (no salt, cold). How long should I let the rock sit in there until
aiptasia is dead?

Ken

[Dragon Slayer]

O.K. Cap, I'm typing this really slow so you can grasp it................

ready............

the viniger is injected into the aptasia, not added directly to the tank.
if you inject a couple thousand in a tank (even a QT) the ph WILL drop.
this WILL kill things living in the tank as well as on/in the live rock.

no need for water changes, just dont put 50ml of viniger in a 10 gallon.
a little now and then will disipate and no ill effects.

the hot water trick i honestly cant see rising your tank temp any
significiant amount regardless of how many you inject. a cup will inject
many hundred of the little *&%$#'s.


did i type that slow enough?

:)

till later Cap.
kc

[Dragon Slayer]

putting LR in RO water with no salt for a length of time = dead rock

dont do that, do the injection method.

if you have allready kept the rock in the fresh water for any length of time
the life on and in it are most likely dead, sorry.

kc

"Ken" > wrote in message
. net...
> The two of them were on a very small piece of live rock I was cycling in a
> tub in my garage. I removed the rock and placed it in a small amoumt of RO
> water (no salt, cold). How long should I let the rock sit in there until
> aiptasia is dead?
>
> Ken
>
>

[Dinky]

"Dragon Slayer" > wrote in message
...
> O.K. Cap, I'm typing this really slow so you can grasp it................
>


Another jerk hiding behind a keyboard. Was that really necessary? He
misunderstood. Rule #1 for USENET posting in my book: If you wouldn't say it
to a guy standing in front of you holding an aluminum baseball bat, you
probably shouldn't post it.

billy

[Benjamin]

Hey! I wasn't issued a aluminum baseball bat! Are those standard
equipment where you come from? j/k

**My way of agreeing with Dinky**
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"Dinky" > wrote in message
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>
> "Dragon Slayer" > wrote in message
> ...
> > O.K. Cap, I'm typing this really slow so you can grasp
it................
> >
>
>
> Another jerk hiding behind a keyboard. Was that really necessary? He
> misunderstood. Rule #1 for USENET posting in my book: If you wouldn't say
it
> to a guy standing in front of you holding an aluminum baseball bat, you
> probably shouldn't post it.
>
> billy
>
>

[Richard Reynolds]

DS and Cap are well known around here, DS didnt break any rules and Cap should know it :)

you can search the archives of this group you will see both DS, and Cap have been here a
while.

so before name calling just make sure you know who your calling what.

plus it wouldnt have been a aluminum base ball bat it would have been a foam one :)

--
Richard Reynolds

[Adam]

I didn't think that sounded like the Dragon Slayer that has helped me so
many times...:-) My first thought was the troll is back. Good call
Richard.

Ed

"Richard Reynolds" > wrote in message
news:H65hb.49311$gv5.45487@fed1read05...
> DS and Cap are well known around here, DS didnt break any rules and Cap
should know it :)
>
> you can search the archives of this group you will see both DS, and Cap
have been here a
> while.
>
> so before name calling just make sure you know who your calling what.
>
> plus it wouldnt have been a aluminum base ball bat it would have been a
foam one :)
>
> --
> Richard Reynolds
>
>
>
>
>

[Benjamin]

Your right, foam would be so much better as it would likely get more use...
hehe

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"Richard Reynolds" > wrote in message
news:H65hb.49311$gv5.45487@fed1read05...
> DS and Cap are well known around here, DS didnt break any rules and Cap
should know it :)
>
> you can search the archives of this group you will see both DS, and Cap
have been here a
> while.
>
> so before name calling just make sure you know who your calling what.
>
> plus it wouldnt have been a aluminum base ball bat it would have been a
foam one :)
>
> --
> Richard Reynolds
>
>
>
>
>

[Ken]

The rock was a very small one. Was not concerned with die-off except to get
rid of unwanteds. Hey I didn't mean to get everyone all excited and
everything.

Ken

[CapFusion]

Depending on what you want to kill. If the LR only have Aiptasia and nothing
else, then you can use that method of using only RO water w/o those mix.
BUT, if there is a shrimp or hitchhiker that you want to keep, then you will
have to target the critter or specific thing you want to kill. Putting the
whole LR in RO (fresh water w/o mix) will eventually make your LR => DR
(Dead Rock). LR = living critter that occupy on, around and in your the
cavest / spore of the rock.

CapFusion,...


"Ken" > wrote in message
. net...
> The two of them were on a very small piece of live rock I was cycling in a
> tub in my garage. I removed the rock and placed it in a small amoumt of RO
> water (no salt, cold). How long should I let the rock sit in there until
> aiptasia is dead?
>
> Ken
>
>

[CapFusion]

Sorry Dragon Slayer, I guess it just flew by.

From previous message:

Lowering PH or raising HIGH temperature should not matter if it is being
done in a "Holding Tank" or somehting. If you have other critter in there
together, then that is another story.

Do you notice the last sentence?


Then you will need to specific target it to avoid killing those you do want.
During this battle, do some water changes.

Do you notices the first sentence? The second sentence is just a precaution
by using doing water changes. Any hitchhiker or critter that occupy the LR,
may or may not survive with those stress condition by using vingar or any
changes.

Continue reading below.....[mid post]

"Dragon Slayer" > wrote in message
...
> O.K. Cap, I'm typing this really slow so you can grasp it................
>
> ready............


> the viniger is injected into the aptasia, not added directly to the tank.
> if you inject a couple thousand in a tank (even a QT) the ph WILL drop.
> this WILL kill things living in the tank as well as on/in the live rock.
>

Please read above first quote. If just the ROCK just have Aiptasia only and
thing else, then yes. But if there are some critter that you do not want to
kill, then of course you do not mass kill everything with vinigar.



> no need for water changes, just dont put 50ml of viniger in a 10 gallon.
> a little now and then will disipate and no ill effects.
>

50ml in 10G, maybe. Depend on what you have with the LR. I would try to cure
the LR while trying to kill Aiptasia (in this case).

You do not want to cause other critter stress except for those you want to
get rid of.


> the hot water trick i honestly cant see rising your tank temp any
> significiant amount regardless of how many you inject. a cup will inject
> many hundred of the little *&%$#'s.
>

Hot water treatment for Aiptasia, it may or may not work.


>
> did i type that slow enough?
>
> :)

Sorry, I did not catch that. Proabably not slow enough. Heehehe.

>
> till later Cap.
> kc
>
>
Ok kc, until then.

CapFusion,...

[CapFusion]

"Dinky" > wrote in message
news:wv4hb.524193$Oz4.385379@rwcrnsc54...
>
> "Dragon Slayer" > wrote in message
> ...
> > O.K. Cap, I'm typing this really slow so you can grasp
it................
> >
>
>
> Another jerk hiding behind a keyboard. Was that really necessary? He
> misunderstood. Rule #1 for USENET posting in my book: If you wouldn't say
it
> to a guy standing in front of you holding an aluminum baseball bat, you
> probably shouldn't post it.
>
> billy
>
>
It is ok billy, it just only opinion. Any opinion that post here will get
corrected if there a problem or such. Everyone have different experience in
this hobby. There no one way or standard and or guideline to base on.
Newbies and lurker will need to try it and see if that solution will fit
their situation. Certain method or certain way of doing will work for some
but not for all.

This NG and other NG are just information that are share by other.

CapFusion,...

[CapFusion]

Heehe.... I would launch my "virtual Bat" and simulate a crack on the
monitor screen. Heehe.

CapFusion,...


"Richard Reynolds" > wrote in message
news:H65hb.49311$gv5.45487@fed1read05...
> DS and Cap are well known around here, DS didnt break any rules and Cap
should know it :)
>
> you can search the archives of this group you will see both DS, and Cap
have been here a
> while.
>
> so before name calling just make sure you know who your calling what.
>
> plus it wouldnt have been a aluminum base ball bat it would have been a
foam one :)
>
> --
> Richard Reynolds
>
>
>
>
>

[Dragon Slayer]

sorry it was me, not the troll, me and cap go way back as RR pointed out, we
all get along fine, guess others need to be here longer befor they but in
the middle of good old fashion horse play. how do you think we got Marc as
king, myself as the GREAT Knight and Cap is a pesky squire????

:)
kc

"Adam" > wrote in message
...
> I didn't think that sounded like the Dragon Slayer that has helped me so
> many times...:-) My first thought was the troll is back. Good call
> Richard.
>
> Ed
>
> "Richard Reynolds" > wrote in message
> news:H65hb.49311$gv5.45487@fed1read05...
> > DS and Cap are well known around here, DS didnt break any rules and Cap
> should know it :)
> >
> > you can search the archives of this group you will see both DS, and Cap
> have been here a
> > while.
> >
> > so before name calling just make sure you know who your calling what.
> >
> > plus it wouldnt have been a aluminum base ball bat it would have been a
> foam one :)
> >
> > --
> > Richard Reynolds
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

[Dragon Slayer]

my appologies Cap, didnt mean to ruffel any feathers, guess i'll have to
pick on somone else now................humm where is Richard at??.......

:)
agian, i'm sorry
kc

"CapFusion" > wrote in message
...
> Sorry Dragon Slayer, I guess it just flew by.
>
> From previous message:
>
> Lowering PH or raising HIGH temperature should not matter if it is being
> done in a "Holding Tank" or somehting. If you have other critter in there
> together, then that is another story.
>
> Do you notice the last sentence?
>
>
> Then you will need to specific target it to avoid killing those you do
want.
> During this battle, do some water changes.
>
> Do you notices the first sentence? The second sentence is just a
precaution
> by using doing water changes. Any hitchhiker or critter that occupy the
LR,
> may or may not survive with those stress condition by using vingar or any
> changes.
>
> Continue reading below.....[mid post]
>
> "Dragon Slayer" > wrote in message
> ...
> > O.K. Cap, I'm typing this really slow so you can grasp
it................
> >
> > ready............
>
>
> > the viniger is injected into the aptasia, not added directly to the
tank.
> > if you inject a couple thousand in a tank (even a QT) the ph WILL drop.
> > this WILL kill things living in the tank as well as on/in the live rock.
> >
>
> Please read above first quote. If just the ROCK just have Aiptasia only
and
> thing else, then yes. But if there are some critter that you do not want
to
> kill, then of course you do not mass kill everything with vinigar.
>
>
>
> > no need for water changes, just dont put 50ml of viniger in a 10 gallon.
> > a little now and then will disipate and no ill effects.
> >
>
> 50ml in 10G, maybe. Depend on what you have with the LR. I would try to
cure
> the LR while trying to kill Aiptasia (in this case).
>
> You do not want to cause other critter stress except for those you want to
> get rid of.
>
>
> > the hot water trick i honestly cant see rising your tank temp any
> > significiant amount regardless of how many you inject. a cup will
inject
> > many hundred of the little *&%$#'s.
> >
>
> Hot water treatment for Aiptasia, it may or may not work.
>
>
> >
> > did i type that slow enough?
> >
> > :)
>
> Sorry, I did not catch that. Proabably not slow enough. Heehehe.
>
> >
> > till later Cap.
> > kc
> >
> >
> Ok kc, until then.
>
> CapFusion,...
>
>

[Dragon Slayer]

not a problem, if the new guy would have left well enough
alone..............Cap is a pretty sharp guy for a squire and we have been
poking back and forth for quite a while on this NG this is the first time
its been taken so harshly.

kc

"Ken" > wrote in message
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> The rock was a very small one. Was not concerned with die-off except to
get
> rid of unwanteds. Hey I didn't mean to get everyone all excited and
> everything.
>
> Ken
>
>

[CapFusion]

"Dragon Slayer" > wrote in message
...
> sorry it was me, not the troll, me and cap go way back as RR pointed out,
we
> all get along fine, guess others need to be here longer befor they but in
> the middle of good old fashion horse play. how do you think we got Marc
as
> king, myself as the GREAT Knight and Cap is a pesky squire????
>
> :)
> kc
Yeap, that me.... just a lonely "squire".
Do not left out the "Oracle".

CapFusion,...

[CapFusion]

"Dragon Slayer" > wrote in message
...
> my appologies Cap, didnt mean to ruffel any feathers, guess i'll have to
> pick on somone else now................humm where is Richard at??.......
>
> :)
> agian, i'm sorry
> kc
>
Apology is unnecessary. I would ruffle your feather if I see something
wrong.
I am just trying to get it straight, just in-case a lurker or newbie read it
and get confuse.

CapFusion,...

[Ctmidnite]

On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 09:19:56 GMT, "Ken" > wrote:

>Hello Again,
>
>Have a quick question. On a new piece of live rock I have what may be
>Aiptasia. I will remove it if indeed it is. From the photos I can find it is
>similar in appearance, but when touch it can totally retract into the rock.
>Is this a common trait of Aiptasia? Being a anemone I thought this behavior
>was a bit strange.
>
>Ken
>

I've only done it twice but it worked.

Use a syringe and needle like for insulin injections. Inject about
1cc of lemon juice right into it. Both of mine went away and never
returned.

1cc won't hurt a thing.

Captain Midnite