Amano Shrimp

[Bill Stock]

I was thinking of adding a few Amano Shrimp to my planted tank, but I'm
concerned that my Barbs or Yoyo might consider them a snack. Any
experiences?

[Elaine T]

Bill Stock wrote:
> I was thinking of adding a few Amano Shrimp to my planted tank, but I'm
> concerned that my Barbs or Yoyo might consider them a snack. Any
> experiences?
>
>
>
I have a fair-sized pygmy loach that leaves my Amanos alone. No barbs
in my tank, so I can't say about those. Maybe look in Amano's books and
see what he keeps in the tanks with shrimp.

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[Victor Martinez]

Bill Stock wrote:
> I was thinking of adding a few Amano Shrimp to my planted tank, but I'm
> concerned that my Barbs or Yoyo might consider them a snack. Any
> experiences?

I wouldn't trust a loach with shrimp.

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[Billy]

"Bill Stock" > wrote in message
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>I was thinking of adding a few Amano Shrimp to my planted tank, but
>I'm concerned that my Barbs or Yoyo might consider them a snack. Any
>experiences?
>
>

I've read that both barbs and Loaches will make meals of shrimp, but
as usual, YMMV. My 55 fw planted has three 4 inch+ clown loaches, as
well as several adult tiger barbs, none of which pay the amano's the
slightest attention.

billy

[Bill Stock]

"Billy" > wrote in message
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>
> "Bill Stock" > wrote in message
> ...
>>I was thinking of adding a few Amano Shrimp to my planted tank, but I'm
>>concerned that my Barbs or Yoyo might consider them a snack. Any
>>experiences?
>>
>>
>
> I've read that both barbs and Loaches will make meals of shrimp, but as
> usual, YMMV. My 55 fw planted has three 4 inch+ clown loaches, as well as
> several adult tiger barbs, none of which pay the amano's the slightest
> attention.
>
> billy

Thanks Billy (Victor & Elaine),

I was more concerned about the Tiger Barbs than my silly Yoyo. I'd read a
few stories about the T' barbs making Shrimp Kebabs. I was beginning to
think my Yoyo was a vegetarian, as he never showed any interest in the Blood
Worms. But the other day when I was feeding the gang their Blood Worms he
came out of his slumber (he's become very nocturnal) to cruise the bottom.
So perhaps he's not as innocent as I thought. :) I intend to add a few more
Yoyos and Otos once my new Quarantine tank gets going, so the next Yoyos may
not be as laid back.

I'd also read that the recommended Amano count is about one per two gallons
of water. That seems like a lot of Shrimp, especially since I have no idea
what these things cost. Although I suppose a larger group might make any
losses more manageable.

[Billy]

"Bill Stock" > wrote in message
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>
> I'd also read that the recommended Amano count is about one per two
> gallons of water. That seems like a lot of Shrimp, especially since
> I have no idea what these things cost. Although I suppose a larger
> group might make any losses more manageable.
>


If you really want Amano's, and are willing to be patient, stop by
the PetsMart and PetCo type stores every couple days. All the ones
around here regularily stock them under the name 'ghost shimp' for 99
cents. Weird, because they're very easy to discern from ghosties. The
smaller LFS's charge up to 5 bucks a pc for Amano's, at least
here-abouts. Wish they were easier to breed.

billy

[Elaine T]

Billy wrote:
> "Bill Stock" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>
>>I'd also read that the recommended Amano count is about one per two
>>gallons of water. That seems like a lot of Shrimp, especially since
>>I have no idea what these things cost. Although I suppose a larger
>>group might make any losses more manageable.
>>
>
>
>
> If you really want Amano's, and are willing to be patient, stop by
> the PetsMart and PetCo type stores every couple days. All the ones
> around here regularily stock them under the name 'ghost shimp' for 99
> cents. Weird, because they're very easy to discern from ghosties. The
> smaller LFS's charge up to 5 bucks a pc for Amano's, at least
> here-abouts. Wish they were easier to breed.
>
> billy
>
>
Wow! Nice to know. I'd never looked closely at the 'ghost shrimp',
assuming they were Palaeomonetes spp.

Bill S. - Be sure your tank is WELL covered before you spend any money
on Amano or any other Caridina shrimp. They're escape artists and I
found my floor littered with $2.99 "shrimp chips" the first time I
bought some. I add a drop/10g of reef iodine at water changes because
it's an essential trace element for the shrimp.

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[Rocco Moretti]

Elaine T wrote:
> I add a drop/10g of reef iodine at water changes because
> it's an essential trace element for the shrimp.

There is some debate whether iodine supplementation is needed for
freshwater shrimp. Some people claim that the moulting seen upon iodine
addition is the shrimp's way of getting rid of excess iodine - they
claim they are able to raise & breed shrimp successfully without iodine
addition (aside from that in the food).

[Bill Stock]

"Billy" > wrote in message
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>
> "Bill Stock" > wrote in message
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>> I'd also read that the recommended Amano count is about one per two
>> gallons of water. That seems like a lot of Shrimp, especially since I
>> have no idea what these things cost. Although I suppose a larger group
>> might make any losses more manageable.
>>
>
>
> If you really want Amano's, and are willing to be patient, stop by the
> PetsMart and PetCo type stores every couple days. All the ones around here
> regularily stock them under the name 'ghost shimp' for 99 cents. Weird,
> because they're very easy to discern from ghosties. The smaller LFS's
> charge up to 5 bucks a pc for Amano's, at least here-abouts. Wish they
> were easier to breed.
>
> billy


No PetCo here (Canada) just PetsMart, but I fear Victor may be correct. I
just picked up two more Loaches, which are supposed to be Yoyos, but they
seem more Brown than "Slinky" whose stripes are closer to Black. I put them
in the Q tank with some plants I had purchased and they were rummaging
around the plants right away. Perhaps there are some Snail eggs in the
plants. So I decided to give them a few Brine Shrimp that I was getting
ready for the troops. Talk about aggressive, they started devouring those
Shrimp, whereas Slinky has only shown mild interest. Either there is quite a
bit of variation in the species or these aren't Yoyos?

[Victor Martinez]

Bill Stock wrote:
> just picked up two more Loaches, which are supposed to be Yoyos, but they
> seem more Brown than "Slinky" whose stripes are closer to Black. I put them

With yoyo's it's the shape of the markins that helps identify them.

> Shrimp, whereas Slinky has only shown mild interest. Either there is quite a
> bit of variation in the species or these aren't Yoyos?

Do they look like these?
http://loaches.com/species_pages/botia_almorhae.html

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[Bill Stock]

"Victor Martinez" > wrote in message
. ..
> Bill Stock wrote:
>> just picked up two more Loaches, which are supposed to be Yoyos, but they
>> seem more Brown than "Slinky" whose stripes are closer to Black. I put
>> them
>
> With yoyo's it's the shape of the markins that helps identify them.
>
>> Shrimp, whereas Slinky has only shown mild interest. Either there is
>> quite a bit of variation in the species or these aren't Yoyos?
>
> Do they look like these?
> http://loaches.com/species_pages/botia_almorhae.html

Slinky looks very much like the one at the top of the page, while the newer
ones look more like http://loaches.com/species_images/yoyo6.jpg further down
the page. they seem to have larger dorsal fins, tail and a rounder body.
Although they are roughly the same length. I guess it's just a species
variation, they certainly act much differently.

How dod the males and females differ?



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[Elaine T]

Rocco Moretti wrote:
> Elaine T wrote:
>
>> I add a drop/10g of reef iodine at water changes because it's an
>> essential trace element for the shrimp.
>
>
> There is some debate whether iodine supplementation is needed for
> freshwater shrimp. Some people claim that the moulting seen upon iodine
> addition is the shrimp's way of getting rid of excess iodine - they
> claim they are able to raise & breed shrimp successfully without iodine
> addition (aside from that in the food).

Interesting. Mine seem none the worse for wear because of it. I even
had a female carrying eggs. Aren't they found in brackish water as well
as fresh, though? That suggests iodine tolerance, in the least.

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[Victor Martinez]

Elaine T wrote:
> Interesting. Mine seem none the worse for wear because of it. I even
> had a female carrying eggs. Aren't they found in brackish water as well
> as fresh, though? That suggests iodine tolerance, in the least.

My females always carry eggs and I add iodine whenever I top off the
tank. Their larvae cannot survive in freshwater, they need sal****er to
live.

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[Victor Martinez]

Bill Stock wrote:
> How dod the males and females differ?

Females get the size of small blimps a few times a year.

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[Billy]

"Victor Martinez" > wrote in message
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> My females always carry eggs and I add iodine whenever I top off
> the tank. Their larvae cannot survive in freshwater, they need
> sal****er to live.
>


I've heard that it requires brackish, and frequent feedings of
decapsulated brine shrimp eggs and such.

But perhaps we're both wrong:
http://www.uniquaria.com/articles/amano.html

Interesting.

billy

[Victor Martinez]

Billy wrote:
> But perhaps we're both wrong:
> http://www.uniquaria.com/articles/amano.html

There's a much more complete website, with pictures of every larvae
stage and all.
http://hem.bredband.net/micnor/breeding_yamato.htm

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[Nikki Casali]

Victor Martinez wrote:

> Elaine T wrote:
>
>> Interesting. Mine seem none the worse for wear because of it. I even
>> had a female carrying eggs. Aren't they found in brackish water as
>> well as fresh, though? That suggests iodine tolerance, in the least.
>
>
> My females always carry eggs and I add iodine whenever I top off the
> tank. Their larvae cannot survive in freshwater, they need sal****er to
> live.
>

I don't add anything to my tank except plant fertiliser. I have 12 Amano
Shrimp, three of which have been carrying eggs for 5 months. They don't
seem to ever become fertilised or hatch.

Nikki