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coolchinchilla
August 7th 05, 04:20 AM
Someone here used the term "terbang" (but I can't remember who). I
googled it and came to a site about folding paper airplanes. 8O I
don't think that's what it means in realtion to aquaria. Can anyone
enlighten me? Thanks!

coolchinchilla

Billy
August 7th 05, 05:31 AM
It's a material used to acidify water, like peat. Netmax would know
more, he's likely the one who mentioned it.

billy

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"coolchinchilla" > wrote in
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> Someone here used the term "terbang" (but I can't remember who). I
> googled it and came to a site about folding paper airplanes. 8O I
> don't think that's what it means in realtion to aquaria. Can
> anyone enlighten me? Thanks!
>
> coolchinchilla

NetMax
August 7th 05, 03:40 PM
;~) ancient Chinese secret
a terbang leaf in every bowl and you will have many babies

Breeders in Asia seem to use them a lot (I guess they come from a local
Terbang tree). Some of my more expensive fish purchases would arrive
with a large leaf in amber colored water. I made some enquires and they
sent me pictures where they had a leaf in every jar of spawning Bettas
(literally 1000s of jars in an industrial setting). I purchased a few
pounds of the stuff which I would use / sell / give away (generally
experiment with :o).

For example, I had a shipment of wild caught corys coming and I wanted to
quickly prep a tank for them. I filled a new tank, dropped in an aged
filter and about 1 leaf per 10g. In the morning the water was equivalent
to what you would get from adding 'black water tonic' (sold in some
stores for a similar effect). The corys would also de-stress by hiding
in the leaf litter.

Terbang was their inexpensive local equivalent of peat moss. In North
America, we would probably settle on the oak leaf (allowed to completely
dry out first). There are probably some differences in the end result,
between oak, terbang and peat, but for our application, I suspect the
fish might not care. Note that not all leaves are fish-safe though.
Something about the sap they use, avoid leaves which winter like cedars
(non-deciduous?).
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"Billy" > wrote in message
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> It's a material used to acidify water, like peat. Netmax would know
> more, he's likely the one who mentioned it.
>
> billy
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> "coolchinchilla" > wrote in message
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>> Someone here used the term "terbang" (but I can't remember who). I
>> googled it and came to a site about folding paper airplanes. 8O I
>> don't think that's what it means in realtion to aquaria. Can anyone
>> enlighten me? Thanks!
>>
>> coolchinchilla
>
>

Ross Vandegrift
August 7th 05, 06:57 PM
On 2005-08-07, NetMax > wrote:
> avoid leaves which winter like cedars

Cedar, specifically, is extremely toxic.


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"The good Christian should beware of mathematicians, and all those who
make empty prophecies. The danger already exists that the mathematicians
have made a covenant with the devil to darken the spirit and to confine
man in the bonds of Hell."
--St. Augustine, De Genesi ad Litteram, Book II, xviii, 37

kclmymy
August 8th 05, 12:13 PM
"coolchinchilla" > wrote in message
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> Someone here used the term "terbang" (but I can't remember who). I
> googled it and came to a site about folding paper airplanes. 8O I don't
> think that's what it means in realtion to aquaria. Can anyone enlighten
> me? Thanks!
>
> coolchinchilla

Do Google on "Ketapang Leaves". You may find:-

http://www.aquarist-classifieds.co.uk/php/detail49_19261.php

http://www.siamsbestbettas.com/articles.html#Ketapang

& more

Very cheap "peat moss", found easily in tropical Asia.

Cheers.


kclmymy

NetMax
August 14th 05, 08:52 PM
"Ross Vandegrift" > wrote in message
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> On 2005-08-07, NetMax > wrote:
>> avoid leaves which winter like cedars
>
> Cedar, specifically, is extremely toxic.
>
>
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> Ross Vandegrift


Ironically most driftwood sold for aquariums is Western cedar. Drained
of its sap, cedar wood works quite well for aquariums. Cedar leaves
however....
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