Pond electrics

[Steve]

Hi,
I recently purchased an all-in-one fountain, filter, pump and light. I
asked if I needed a Residual Circuit Breaker but was told that most modern
electrical systems will trip in the event of a problem.

Also, with or without the RCB, is it best practice to wire this to an
always-on spur or just plug them into the nearest socket?

Many thanks,

Steve

[Charles]

On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 20:53:59 GMT, "Steve" > wrote:

>Hi,
>I recently purchased an all-in-one fountain, filter, pump and light. I
>asked if I needed a Residual Circuit Breaker but was told that most modern
>electrical systems will trip in the event of a problem.
>
>Also, with or without the RCB, is it best practice to wire this to an
>always-on spur or just plug them into the nearest socket?
>
>Many thanks,
>
>Steve
>


Want to gamble with your life.

Although I do it, I don't recommend it.

You can get a GFCI outlet for not much money, have it instakked or
install it yourself, and be a lot safer.

[Roy]

Not to sound harsh, buty if you have to ask these questions I would
think its best to hire a qualified electrican to do whats necessary.
Not many folks get a sceond chance when dealing with water and
electricty.
On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 21:00:24 GMT, Charles >
wrote:

>===<>On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 20:53:59 GMT, "Steve" > wrote:
>===<>
>===<>>Hi,
>===<>>I recently purchased an all-in-one fountain, filter, pump and light. I
>===<>>asked if I needed a Residual Circuit Breaker but was told that most modern
>===<>>electrical systems will trip in the event of a problem.
>===<>>
>===<>>Also, with or without the RCB, is it best practice to wire this to an
>===<>>always-on spur or just plug them into the nearest socket?
>===<>>
>===<>>Many thanks,
>===<>>
>===<>>Steve
>===<>>
>===<>
>===<>
>===<>Want to gamble with your life.
>===<>
>===<>Although I do it, I don't recommend it.
>===<>
>===<>You can get a GFCI outlet for not much money, have it instakked or
>===<>install it yourself, and be a lot safer.


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[Derek Broughton]

Roy wrote:

> Not to sound harsh, buty if you have to ask these questions I would
> think its best to hire a qualified electrican to do whats necessary.
> Not many folks get a sceond chance when dealing with water and
> electricty.

Plus, given his wording, he's probably dealing with 240V - twice the chance
of a painful ending :-)

>>On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 20:53:59 GMT, "Steve" > wrote:
>>
>>I recently purchased an all-in-one fountain, filter, pump and light.
>>I asked if I needed a Residual Circuit Breaker but was told that
>> most modern electrical systems will trip in the event of a problem.

That's pure BS, unless it's standard practice to put RCB/GFCI breakers in
panels in your location. Most modern systems will trip if there's a short
- but after letting fatal quantities of electricity pass to ground (earth)
through your body.

Yes, you need an RCB, and you should get it done by an electrician.
--
derek

[Paul]

Derek Broughton wrote:
> Roy wrote:
>
>
>>Not to sound harsh, buty if you have to ask these questions I would
>>think its best to hire a qualified electrican to do whats necessary.
>>Not many folks get a sceond chance when dealing with water and
>>electricty.
>
>
> Plus, given his wording, he's probably dealing with 240V - twice the chance
> of a painful ending :-)
>
>
>>>On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 20:53:59 GMT, "Steve" > wrote:
>>>
>>>I recently purchased an all-in-one fountain, filter, pump and light.
>>>I asked if I needed a Residual Circuit Breaker but was told that
>>>most modern electrical systems will trip in the event of a problem.
>
>
> That's pure BS, unless it's standard practice to put RCB/GFCI breakers in
> panels in your location. Most modern systems will trip if there's a short
> - but after letting fatal quantities of electricity pass to ground (earth)
> through your body.
>
> Yes, you need an RCB, and you should get it done by an electrician.

Modern uk electrical installation have a RCD built into the consumer
unit. But I would still have a dedicated one to a garden supply.

Paul