Weight of tank upstairs

[Fantastic Derek]

Hi

I am thinking of buying a new largish tank, a 4ft 60-70 gallon tank. I
was hoping to put it upstairs and was wondering if this would be safe.
I live in a Victorian terrace house in the UK although I believe the
room is part of an extension. The floor is made up of chipboard panels
sitting on top of orignial floorbaords sitting on fairly hefty joists.
I'm pretty sure it'll be ok as I will be stting it up against an
external wall, but was wondering if anybody had any experience in this
area?


Thanks

[Gill Passman]

"Fantastic Derek" > wrote in message
...
> Hi
>
> I am thinking of buying a new largish tank, a 4ft 60-70 gallon tank. I
> was hoping to put it upstairs and was wondering if this would be safe.
> I live in a Victorian terrace house in the UK although I believe the
> room is part of an extension. The floor is made up of chipboard panels
> sitting on top of orignial floorbaords sitting on fairly hefty joists.
> I'm pretty sure it'll be ok as I will be stting it up against an
> external wall, but was wondering if anybody had any experience in this
> area?
>
>
> Thanks

JMO but most Victorian Terraces were pretty solidly built so you should be
OK. We live in a late 70's house that just has the panels and they support a
3ft tank (30 UK gall) upstairs quite happily on an inside solid breeze block
wall. I don't think you would have any problems.

From your subsequent post the tank you are looking at is 47.5UK galls.

The only thing that I would consider is the pain of carrying the water up
and downstairs when you do the water changes - not pleasant :-( I don't
trust the upstairs bathroom water as it generally it comes from the tank
rather than the mains but maybe yours is different (or maybe yours is a
typical Victorian Terrace with a downstairs bathroom). A 20% change on the
30gall involves trips down the stairs with two very full 3gall buckets and
the same again going up to replenish and being a modern house our stairs
aren't quite as steep as a typical Victorian Terrace (and I've lived in a
few in my time).

Good Luck
Gill

[Fantastic Derek]

Good point!! 20% change means 5 or 6 trips up the stairs with my 10l
bucket. Mind you the exercise will do me good!

You're right, by the way, I have no bathroom upstairs.

Many thanks for the advice.


On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 19:51:48 +0100, "Gill Passman"
<gillspamattaylorpassmanspam.co.uk> wrote:

>
>"Fantastic Derek" > wrote in message
...
>> Hi
>>
>> I am thinking of buying a new largish tank, a 4ft 60-70 gallon tank. I
>> was hoping to put it upstairs and was wondering if this would be safe.
>> I live in a Victorian terrace house in the UK although I believe the
>> room is part of an extension. The floor is made up of chipboard panels
>> sitting on top of orignial floorbaords sitting on fairly hefty joists.
>> I'm pretty sure it'll be ok as I will be stting it up against an
>> external wall, but was wondering if anybody had any experience in this
>> area?
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>
>JMO but most Victorian Terraces were pretty solidly built so you should be
>OK. We live in a late 70's house that just has the panels and they support a
>3ft tank (30 UK gall) upstairs quite happily on an inside solid breeze block
>wall. I don't think you would have any problems.
>
>From your subsequent post the tank you are looking at is 47.5UK galls.
>
>The only thing that I would consider is the pain of carrying the water up
>and downstairs when you do the water changes - not pleasant :-( I don't
>trust the upstairs bathroom water as it generally it comes from the tank
>rather than the mains but maybe yours is different (or maybe yours is a
>typical Victorian Terrace with a downstairs bathroom). A 20% change on the
>30gall involves trips down the stairs with two very full 3gall buckets and
>the same again going up to replenish and being a modern house our stairs
>aren't quite as steep as a typical Victorian Terrace (and I've lived in a
>few in my time).
>
>Good Luck
>Gill
>
>

[sophie]

Fantastic Derek said this:
> Good point!! 20% change means 5 or 6 trips up the stairs with my 10l
> bucket. Mind you the exercise will do me good!
>
> You're right, by the way, I have no bathroom upstairs.
>
> Many thanks for the advice.

across the joists.
put it across the joists.
(and I always siphon the water out of the tank and straight out the window
with a very long hose, but this goes into the garden - I'm not sure it would
work if the hose went into the street!) My biggest tank is on a piece of
furniture with a flat bottom; I have a feeling that the ones with legs will
exert a lot more pressure on a very small area which might be dodgy, but I
honestly don't think your tank is big enough to be a problem. I had a 4ft x
18" x 18" set up upstairs in a thirties terrace till it sprung a leak. which
was 250l, whihc weighs I think quarter of a tonne, which isn't too big a load
as long as it's spread properly. think of hot water tanks and baths.
>
>
> On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 19:51:48 +0100, "Gill Passman"
> <gillspamattaylorpassmanspam.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Fantastic Derek" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I am thinking of buying a new largish tank, a 4ft 60-70 gallon tank. I
>>> was hoping to put it upstairs and was wondering if this would be safe.
>>> I live in a Victorian terrace house in the UK although I believe the
>>> room is part of an extension. The floor is made up of chipboard panels
>>> sitting on top of orignial floorbaords sitting on fairly hefty joists.
>>> I'm pretty sure it'll be ok as I will be stting it up against an
>>> external wall, but was wondering if anybody had any experience in this
>>> area?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>
>> JMO but most Victorian Terraces were pretty solidly built so you should be
>> OK. We live in a late 70's house that just has the panels and they support a
>> 3ft tank (30 UK gall) upstairs quite happily on an inside solid breeze block
>> wall. I don't think you would have any problems.
>>
>> From your subsequent post the tank you are looking at is 47.5UK galls.
>>
>> The only thing that I would consider is the pain of carrying the water up
>> and downstairs when you do the water changes - not pleasant :-( I don't
>> trust the upstairs bathroom water as it generally it comes from the tank
>> rather than the mains but maybe yours is different (or maybe yours is a
>> typical Victorian Terrace with a downstairs bathroom). A 20% change on the
>> 30gall involves trips down the stairs with two very full 3gall buckets and
>> the same again going up to replenish and being a modern house our stairs
>> aren't quite as steep as a typical Victorian Terrace (and I've lived in a
>> few in my time).
>>
>> Good Luck
>> Gill
>>
>>



--
sophie

[Fantastic Derek]

Actually, I have a drain in my back garden right outside the window of
the room in question so that could save me some effort. And there's a
tap there!

I thought it would be ok, but I felt it wise to ask people who
actually had some experience. Thanks for your help.


On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 20:56:50 +0100, sophie
> wrote:

>Fantastic Derek said this:
>> Good point!! 20% change means 5 or 6 trips up the stairs with my 10l
>> bucket. Mind you the exercise will do me good!
>>
>> You're right, by the way, I have no bathroom upstairs.
>>
>> Many thanks for the advice.
>
>across the joists.
>put it across the joists.
>(and I always siphon the water out of the tank and straight out the window
>with a very long hose, but this goes into the garden - I'm not sure it would
>work if the hose went into the street!) My biggest tank is on a piece of
>furniture with a flat bottom; I have a feeling that the ones with legs will
>exert a lot more pressure on a very small area which might be dodgy, but I
>honestly don't think your tank is big enough to be a problem. I had a 4ft x
>18" x 18" set up upstairs in a thirties terrace till it sprung a leak. which
>was 250l, whihc weighs I think quarter of a tonne, which isn't too big a load
>as long as it's spread properly. think of hot water tanks and baths.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 19:51:48 +0100, "Gill Passman"
>> <gillspamattaylorpassmanspam.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Fantastic Derek" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> I am thinking of buying a new largish tank, a 4ft 60-70 gallon tank. I
>>>> was hoping to put it upstairs and was wondering if this would be safe.
>>>> I live in a Victorian terrace house in the UK although I believe the
>>>> room is part of an extension. The floor is made up of chipboard panels
>>>> sitting on top of orignial floorbaords sitting on fairly hefty joists.
>>>> I'm pretty sure it'll be ok as I will be stting it up against an
>>>> external wall, but was wondering if anybody had any experience in this
>>>> area?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> JMO but most Victorian Terraces were pretty solidly built so you should be
>>> OK. We live in a late 70's house that just has the panels and they support a
>>> 3ft tank (30 UK gall) upstairs quite happily on an inside solid breeze block
>>> wall. I don't think you would have any problems.
>>>
>>> From your subsequent post the tank you are looking at is 47.5UK galls.
>>>
>>> The only thing that I would consider is the pain of carrying the water up
>>> and downstairs when you do the water changes - not pleasant :-( I don't
>>> trust the upstairs bathroom water as it generally it comes from the tank
>>> rather than the mains but maybe yours is different (or maybe yours is a
>>> typical Victorian Terrace with a downstairs bathroom). A 20% change on the
>>> 30gall involves trips down the stairs with two very full 3gall buckets and
>>> the same again going up to replenish and being a modern house our stairs
>>> aren't quite as steep as a typical Victorian Terrace (and I've lived in a
>>> few in my time).
>>>
>>> Good Luck
>>> Gill
>>>
>>>