white spots???? help

[danny]

hi,
i have noticed wome white spots appearing on my fish
and they are dying is there any way to save them or will they all die
please reply as soon as possible.

thank you,
danny

[Pete Stephenson]

In article . com>,
"danny" > wrote:

> i have noticed wome white spots appearing on my fish
> and they are dying is there any way to save them or will they all die
> please reply as soon as possible.

Sounds like Ich.

They have treatments at your local fish store to treat Ich. I'm sure
other people could provide more information...

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[Elaine T]

danny wrote:
> hi,
> i have noticed wome white spots appearing on my fish
> and they are dying is there any way to save them or will they all die
> please reply as soon as possible.
>
> thank you,
> danny
>
If the spots are pure white and about the size of a grain of salt, your
fish probably have a very common disease called ich or white spot
disease. As you've noticed, left untreated it can be quite lethal.
Fortunately, it's usually pretty easy to treat.
http://tinyurl.com/dhxsw is a link to the Wayback Machine's archived
version of an outstanding article on protozoan diseases and ich by the
Skeptical Aquarist.

You haven't posted anything about your water, fish, or tank so I can't
recommend a specific treatment or know why your fish got sick in the
first place. Gravel vacuuming frequently to remove parasites is quite
helpful in ich outbreaks.

Many fish do well with formalin/malachite green remedies like Rid Ich,
Quick Cure, or ContraSpot. However, loaches, scaleless fish, and tetras
can react badly to these medicines. Read the bottle of whatever you
choose and follow the dosage amounts carefully. Be ready to do a quick
water change to lower the dose if your fish look distressed after
medicating. Dose for a longer period of time, though. Once all of the
spots are gone from every single fish, change water and dose 3 days
later, 6 days later, and 9 days later to be sure the ich doesn't come back.

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[Gill Passman]

"Pete Stephenson" > wrote in message
...
> In article . com>,
> "danny" > wrote:
>
> > i have noticed wome white spots appearing on my fish
> > and they are dying is there any way to save them or will they all die
> > please reply as soon as possible.
>
> Sounds like Ich.
>
> They have treatments at your local fish store to treat Ich. I'm sure
> other people could provide more information...
>
> --
> Pete Stephenson
> HeyPete.com

Raise the temperature in the tank, do a 30% water change and add some salt
(at a level that your fish can cope with). Get some Ich/white spot treatment
from your LFS and keep up the treatment.

Check out:-

http://www.netpets.com/fish/reference/freshref/ich.html

This gives some great info on the treatment. With luck you can save them - I
have done so in the past.....but not every time :-(

Gill

[danny]

hi thanks for this everyone and i have a 30 litre biorb which had four
fish in but i recently added 2 and thats when it all started to go
wrong i thaught it was just food which had fallen on to the poor little
guy but then i found him dead in the plants so i got rid of him and
then another died so i thaught i might ask you guys anyway my nitrit
0.3pph i think ive put that right my nitrat is just fine and ammonia 0
but i have been noticing loads of brown spots appearing everywhere so i
keep wiping them but i cant see that it is making any effect but i did
notce loads of little white things which seemed to be little eggs but i
thaught nothing of it, i wonder if it could have been that??? i have
put some dosage into the tank 3ml worth so i dont think ove overdont it
it said 3ml on the bottle.

[Elaine T]

danny wrote:
> hi thanks for this everyone and i have a 30 litre biorb which had four
> fish in but i recently added 2 and thats when it all started to go
> wrong i thaught it was just food which had fallen on to the poor little
> guy but then i found him dead in the plants so i got rid of him and
> then another died so i thaught i might ask you guys anyway my nitrit
> 0.3pph i think ive put that right my nitrat is just fine and ammonia 0
> but i have been noticing loads of brown spots appearing everywhere so i
> keep wiping them but i cant see that it is making any effect but i did
> notce loads of little white things which seemed to be little eggs but i
> thaught nothing of it, i wonder if it could have been that??? i have
> put some dosage into the tank 3ml worth so i dont think ove overdont it
> it said 3ml on the bottle.

Hi. You're welcome. I'm finding your writing a bit hard to read, but
I'm going to do my best.

If I have it right, you had 6 fish of some sort in a new biorb and
you're back to four. I hope they are small fish. The ich probably came
in with the newcomers - especially if you added the fish store water.
Never put fish store water in your tank. Many people use a separate
quarantine tank to watch new fish for a while.

There is soft, brown algae on the glass - this is normal for new tanks.
Keep wiping. It will go away or at least get better in a few weeks.

There are white spots on the fish, and you used 3 ml of an ich (white
spot) medicine that said to use 3 ml? Good. Keep following the
instructions on the package and once the disease is gone, give the extra
doses I said in my earlier post. Hopefully you won't lose any more fish.

There is 0.3 ppm nitrite in the water. This indicates that your filter
is still being colonized by helpful bacteria, which is normal in new
tanks. Nitrite stresses fish and may have been why the ich got out of
control, but 0.3 ppm is not a terribly high amount. If it gets up to
1.0 ppm, change some water to lower it.

Keep going with the ich medicine, and don't add any more fish until the
ich has been gone for a week, there is no ammonia or nitrite, and you do
find some nitrate in the water. Add fish slowly, and you don't ever
want to put more than about seven 1" (2.5 cm) fish in the water, or
three or four 2" (5 cm) fish total.

You can find LOTS more info in the FAQ. http://faq.thekrib.com

Good luck, and feel free to ask more questions.

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[danny]

thks again, im sorry you couldnt read my writing,

anyway i dont add the fish water they came in i fish them out of the
bag and into the tank with a net
but i have noticed that both of my platys ave their fins clamped
against their bodies is this sign of bacterial infection?

[Elaine T]

danny wrote:
> thks again, im sorry you couldnt read my writing,

It's just a bit confusing with no capitalization or punctuation. I
think I get your meaning.

> anyway i dont add the fish water they came in i fish them out of the
> bag and into the tank with a net

Good. That's the best thing to do if you don't have a way to quarantine
them.

> but i have noticed that both of my platys ave their fins clamped
> against their bodies is this sign of bacterial infection?

Clamped fins are a general sign of stress. You've got a new tank with
nitrite, ich, and now ich medicine. It really doesn't get much worse
for a fish. :-( Keep changing about 6 litres of water (20%) every few
days, cleaning the gravel with your siphon. Small, frequent water
changes are very good for sick fish because they're gentle but keep the
water and gravel clean. Clean water helps the fish heal themselves of
things like bacterial infections and even ich. You probably know to
feed so that there is never any uneaten food left in the tank.

You could add a bit of aquarium salt if you like - it helps with both
the nitrites and ich. Don't use ordinary table salt because it has
anti-caking agents that aren't good for fish. If you can't get aquarium
salt, pickling salt or some kosher salts are pure as well. Try
dissolving 1 US tbsp of salt (about 15 ml) and adding it to the water in
2 or 3 doses over the course of a day. The water changes will dilute it
back out, so put about 3 ml of salt into each 6 litres of replacement
water. Keep the the salt in your tank until nitrites test zero, and
then stop adding any more. It will gradually dilute out and be gone.

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