Can antibiotic food nuke the Biofilter?

[Bill Stock]

Somewhat rhetorical I think.

I was cleaning the boys yesterday (pond refugees) and I noticed that their
Ammo-Alert was far from it's pale yellow. It was up in the danger zone, so I
tested with the Ammonia kit and it was reading around 400. YIKES. So I did a
water change and added all the Ammo-Lock I had. I also added some Stress
Zyme, but I've never had much luck with this in the past. I'll keep doing
daily water changes and replacing the Ammo-Lock until I get things going
again,

Any advice appreciated.

[Reel Mckoi]

"Bill Stock" > wrote in message
...
> Somewhat rhetorical I think.
>
> I was cleaning the boys yesterday (pond refugees) and I noticed that their
> Ammo-Alert was far from it's pale yellow. It was up in the danger zone, so
> I tested with the Ammonia kit and it was reading around 400. YIKES. So I
> did a water change and added all the Ammo-Lock I had. I also added some
> Stress Zyme, but I've never had much luck with this in the past. I'll keep
> doing daily water changes and replacing the Ammo-Lock until I get things
> going again,
>
> Any advice appreciated.
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Without knowing how large your pond is and how many fish you have it's hard
to make suggestions. I never had an ammonia surge from feeding medicated
food.
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[Elaine T]

Bill Stock wrote:
> Somewhat rhetorical I think.
>
> I was cleaning the boys yesterday (pond refugees) and I noticed that their
> Ammo-Alert was far from it's pale yellow. It was up in the danger zone, so I
> tested with the Ammonia kit and it was reading around 400. YIKES. So I did a
> water change and added all the Ammo-Lock I had. I also added some Stress
> Zyme, but I've never had much luck with this in the past. I'll keep doing
> daily water changes and replacing the Ammo-Lock until I get things going
> again,
>
> Any advice appreciated.

I've never had it happen, but perhaps the antibiotic in your food is
eliminated by excretion rather than metabolized. Seachem's Stabiliby is
supposed to be good for restoring a cycle.

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[humBill]

"Bill Stock" > wrote in message
...
> Somewhat rhetorical I think.
>
> I was cleaning the boys yesterday (pond refugees) and I noticed that their
> Ammo-Alert was far from it's pale yellow. It was up in the danger zone, so
> I tested with the Ammonia kit and it was reading around 400. YIKES. So I
> did a water change and added all the Ammo-Lock I had. I also added some
> Stress Zyme, but I've never had much luck with this in the past. I'll keep
> doing daily water changes and replacing the Ammo-Lock until I get things
> going again,
>
> Any advice appreciated.
>
>
>
Hi Bill
I am interested in the answer to this myself. If I understood your post
these are fish FROM the pond IN an aquarium. We have been feeding medicated
food lately as well. My wife told me she recently read that 'antibiotic
food' could kill your filter. This has not been the case with us, nor was
it in the pond. However, the info came from that 'About' site which I have
found is a bit generalized but often seeded in truth = sounds like a
possibility anyway.
Bill Brister - Austin, Texas

[Bill Stock]

"humBill" > wrote in message
. ..
>
> "Bill Stock" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Somewhat rhetorical I think.
>>
>> I was cleaning the boys yesterday (pond refugees) and I noticed that
>> their Ammo-Alert was far from it's pale yellow. It was up in the danger
>> zone, so I tested with the Ammonia kit and it was reading around 400.
>> YIKES. So I did a water change and added all the Ammo-Lock I had. I also
>> added some Stress Zyme, but I've never had much luck with this in the
>> past. I'll keep doing daily water changes and replacing the Ammo-Lock
>> until I get things going again,
>>
>> Any advice appreciated.
>>
>>
>>
> Hi Bill
> I am interested in the answer to this myself. If I understood your post
> these are fish FROM the pond IN an aquarium. We have been feeding
> medicated food lately as well. My wife told me she recently read that
> 'antibiotic food' could kill your filter. This has not been the case with
> us, nor was it in the pond. However, the info came from that 'About' site
> which I have found is a bit generalized but often seeded in truth = sounds
> like a possibility anyway.
> Bill Brister - Austin, Texas

Yes, these GF are in an aquarium. Pond refugees from two seasons ago, three
Heron survivors and two fry (now 3").

I originally thought the Potassium Permanganate treatments killed the
filter, but I did not see the Ammonia spike until after I started feeding
the medicated food. Roughly two weeks after the PP. I'm just lucky I noticed
the Ammonia Alert was not it's normal Yellow. They usually get so covered in
Algae that I don't always notice them. The Ammonia was getting close to 8
when I did their weekly water change.

BTW, the food contains sulfadimethoxine, ormetoprim sulfa, oxolinic acid and
kannamycin.

[humBill]

Hi Bill
Sorry - puter has been down and workload up. From what you have described I
would GUESS no to the antibiotic food. I do know PP will definitely kill
the filter and anything organic, along with the fish off course, if left
long enough. Maybe it just took a bit for the ammonia to build up??? I dont
know anything about those ingredients. Despite my warning my Medi Koi never
seems to harm the filter.
Bill

"Bill Stock" > wrote in message
...
>
> "humBill" > wrote in message
> . ..
>>
>> "Bill Stock" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Somewhat rhetorical I think.
>>>
>>> I was cleaning the boys yesterday (pond refugees) and I noticed that
>>> their Ammo-Alert was far from it's pale yellow. It was up in the danger
>>> zone, so I tested with the Ammonia kit and it was reading around 400.
>>> YIKES. So I did a water change and added all the Ammo-Lock I had. I also
>>> added some Stress Zyme, but I've never had much luck with this in the
>>> past. I'll keep doing daily water changes and replacing the Ammo-Lock
>>> until I get things going again,
>>>
>>> Any advice appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Hi Bill
>> I am interested in the answer to this myself. If I understood your post
>> these are fish FROM the pond IN an aquarium. We have been feeding
>> medicated food lately as well. My wife told me she recently read that
>> 'antibiotic food' could kill your filter. This has not been the case
>> with us, nor was it in the pond. However, the info came from that
>> 'About' site which I have found is a bit generalized but often seeded in
>> truth = sounds like a possibility anyway.
>> Bill Brister - Austin, Texas
>
> Yes, these GF are in an aquarium. Pond refugees from two seasons ago,
> three Heron survivors and two fry (now 3").
>
> I originally thought the Potassium Permanganate treatments killed the
> filter, but I did not see the Ammonia spike until after I started feeding
> the medicated food. Roughly two weeks after the PP. I'm just lucky I
> noticed the Ammonia Alert was not it's normal Yellow. They usually get so
> covered in Algae that I don't always notice them. The Ammonia was getting
> close to 8 when I did their weekly water change.
>
> BTW, the food contains sulfadimethoxine, ormetoprim sulfa, oxolinic acid
> and kannamycin.
>
>
>
>