What's happening to my Anemone

[Adam]

Hello Gang,

I have another Anemone question. About 4 days ago my BTA went to the back
of the tank and folded in half. He hasn't relocated since he got there but
has stretched to the top of the rocks a couple of times. When he stretches
to the top of the rocks he will open just a little but never even close to
all the way. I'm needing to know what is going on with him. All of my
water levels are perfect except PH which is only off by .1 (8.2) and
hardness (usually runs 12 but is only 9 at this time) Here are some
pictures of him taken with the use of a mirror.
http://webpages.charter.net/sal****er/
Can someone please tell me what is happening to him and if there is anything
I can do. Thanks in advance.

Ed

[Marc Levenson]

Hi Ed,

Turn the rock around to have him face the front. He looks like he's stretching
to get more light currently. Maybe he just wanted a better spot to secure his
foot.

Marc


Adam wrote:

> Hello Gang,
>
> I have another Anemone question. About 4 days ago my BTA went to the back
> of the tank and folded in half. He hasn't relocated since he got there but
> has stretched to the top of the rocks a couple of times. When he stretches
> to the top of the rocks he will open just a little but never even close to
> all the way. I'm needing to know what is going on with him. All of my
> water levels are perfect except PH which is only off by .1 (8.2) and
> hardness (usually runs 12 but is only 9 at this time) Here are some
> pictures of him taken with the use of a mirror.
> http://webpages.charter.net/sal****er/
> Can someone please tell me what is happening to him and if there is anything
> I can do. Thanks in advance.
>
> Ed

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[Adam]

Howdy Marc,

I moved the rock he is on to the top of the tank facing the top (lights).
He opened right up and the clowns were all over him. Everyone looked happy.
Now here it is a couple hours later and he is on the side of the rock with
his foot attached to the bottom. So my question now is is there a way to
make him stay on top of the rock? I've read (on here I think) that I can
bury the rock level with the sand with no other rocks close enough that he
can get to it without crossing the sand and he would stay put because he
couldn't get traction in the sand to make a move. Do you know if this will
work? I will have to rearrange the tank but am willing to do so if it will
keep him from killing himself. Thanks for helping. So far I've never had a
problem with anything you have told me so I'll take any advise you might be
willing to give. Also can you give me the link to your web site so I can
show the wife what I'm trying to do with my little operation, in time?
Thanks alot.

Ed

"Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
...
> Hi Ed,
>
> Turn the rock around to have him face the front. He looks like he's
stretching
> to get more light currently. Maybe he just wanted a better spot to
secure his
> foot.
>
> Marc
>
>
> Adam wrote:
>
> > Hello Gang,
> >
> > I have another Anemone question. About 4 days ago my BTA went to the
back
> > of the tank and folded in half. He hasn't relocated since he got there
but
> > has stretched to the top of the rocks a couple of times. When he
stretches
> > to the top of the rocks he will open just a little but never even close
to
> > all the way. I'm needing to know what is going on with him. All of my
> > water levels are perfect except PH which is only off by .1 (8.2) and
> > hardness (usually runs 12 but is only 9 at this time) Here are some
> > pictures of him taken with the use of a mirror.
> > http://webpages.charter.net/sal****er/
> > Can someone please tell me what is happening to him and if there is
anything
> > I can do. Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Ed
>
> --
> Personal Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/oanda/index.html
> Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com
> Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com
>
>

[Adam]

Ok so the last question was stupid since your website is at the bottom of
the quoted message. :-)

"Adam" > wrote in message
...
> Howdy Marc,
>
> I moved the rock he is on to the top of the tank facing the top (lights).
> He opened right up and the clowns were all over him. Everyone looked
happy.
> Now here it is a couple hours later and he is on the side of the rock with
> his foot attached to the bottom. So my question now is is there a way to
> make him stay on top of the rock? I've read (on here I think) that I can
> bury the rock level with the sand with no other rocks close enough that he
> can get to it without crossing the sand and he would stay put because he
> couldn't get traction in the sand to make a move. Do you know if this
will
> work? I will have to rearrange the tank but am willing to do so if it
will
> keep him from killing himself. Thanks for helping. So far I've never had
a
> problem with anything you have told me so I'll take any advise you might
be
> willing to give. Also can you give me the link to your web site so I can
> show the wife what I'm trying to do with my little operation, in time?
> Thanks alot.
>
> Ed
>
> "Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Hi Ed,
> >
> > Turn the rock around to have him face the front. He looks like he's
> stretching
> > to get more light currently. Maybe he just wanted a better spot to
> secure his
> > foot.
> >
> > Marc
> >
> >
> > Adam wrote:
> >
> > > Hello Gang,
> > >
> > > I have another Anemone question. About 4 days ago my BTA went to the
> back
> > > of the tank and folded in half. He hasn't relocated since he got
there
> but
> > > has stretched to the top of the rocks a couple of times. When he
> stretches
> > > to the top of the rocks he will open just a little but never even
close
> to
> > > all the way. I'm needing to know what is going on with him. All of
my
> > > water levels are perfect except PH which is only off by .1 (8.2) and
> > > hardness (usually runs 12 but is only 9 at this time) Here are some
> > > pictures of him taken with the use of a mirror.
> > > http://webpages.charter.net/sal****er/
> > > Can someone please tell me what is happening to him and if there is
> anything
> > > I can do. Thanks in advance.
> > >
> > > Ed
> >
> > --
> > Personal Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/oanda/index.html
> > Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com
> > Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com
> >
> >
>
>

[David Young]

I've forgotten how small they start out since mine's bigger than a 12"
dinner plate now. I could control the movement of mine with water flow to an
extent. I then found a piece of LR with a hollow part about the size of his
foot. I put it near the area he was wondering and within a few days he was
firmly planted and hasn't moved for months.
David Young
"Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
...
> Hi Ed,
>
> Turn the rock around to have him face the front. He looks like he's
stretching
> to get more light currently. Maybe he just wanted a better spot to
secure his
> foot.
>
> Marc
>
>
> Adam wrote:
>
> > Hello Gang,
> >
> > I have another Anemone question. About 4 days ago my BTA went to the
back
> > of the tank and folded in half. He hasn't relocated since he got there
but
> > has stretched to the top of the rocks a couple of times. When he
stretches
> > to the top of the rocks he will open just a little but never even close
to
> > all the way. I'm needing to know what is going on with him. All of my
> > water levels are perfect except PH which is only off by .1 (8.2) and
> > hardness (usually runs 12 but is only 9 at this time) Here are some
> > pictures of him taken with the use of a mirror.
> > http://webpages.charter.net/sal****er/
> > Can someone please tell me what is happening to him and if there is
anything
> > I can do. Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Ed
>
> --
> Personal Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/oanda/index.html
> Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com
> Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com
>
>

[Marc Levenson]

Hi Ed,

Maybe you shouldn't try to put it facing upwards. If it wants to be at the top,
it will ascend toward the light for its needs.

I was suggesting you rotate the rock to face the front rather than the back, if
possible. To the anemone, it might not notice this lateral move and stay put
where it feels secure.

And in this way you can still see it to enjoy it.

There are many pages on my site, so be sure to click on the "Helpful Tips" page
to find them all.

Marc


Adam wrote:

> Howdy Marc,
>
> I moved the rock he is on to the top of the tank facing the top (lights).
> He opened right up and the clowns were all over him. Everyone looked happy.
> Now here it is a couple hours later and he is on the side of the rock with
> his foot attached to the bottom. So my question now is is there a way to
> make him stay on top of the rock? I've read (on here I think) that I can
> bury the rock level with the sand with no other rocks close enough that he
> can get to it without crossing the sand and he would stay put because he
> couldn't get traction in the sand to make a move. Do you know if this will
> work? I will have to rearrange the tank but am willing to do so if it will
> keep him from killing himself. Thanks for helping. So far I've never had a
> problem with anything you have told me so I'll take any advise you might be
> willing to give. Also can you give me the link to your web site so I can
> show the wife what I'm trying to do with my little operation, in time?
> Thanks alot.
>
> Ed

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[Adam]

Hi Marc,

Just wanted to give an update on my wayward Anemone. As per advice on your
site I made a few adjustments to how I had earlier placed my BTA. I moved
him lower in the tank (still facing up towards the light). But I moved him
out of the direct current of a power head that he was in front of on the
first move. He seems to like it much better in this position. Here are the
latest photos. http://webpages.charter.net/sal****er/ Do you think that he
might be taking cover to avoid the constant attention of my YSMClowns? The
female is much larger than the BTA and I was thinking that she might be just
a little to much for him. The BTA seems to perk right up when placed in the
light but before long it tends to run for cover and then starts to look
almost dead. Any advice? Thanks for your help.

Ed

"Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
...
> Hi Ed,
>
> Maybe you shouldn't try to put it facing upwards. If it wants to be at
the top,
> it will ascend toward the light for its needs.
>
> I was suggesting you rotate the rock to face the front rather than the
back, if
> possible. To the anemone, it might not notice this lateral move and stay
put
> where it feels secure.
>
> And in this way you can still see it to enjoy it.
>
> There are many pages on my site, so be sure to click on the "Helpful Tips"
page
> to find them all.
>
> Marc
>
>
> Adam wrote:
>
> > Howdy Marc,
> >
> > I moved the rock he is on to the top of the tank facing the top
(lights).
> > He opened right up and the clowns were all over him. Everyone looked
happy.
> > Now here it is a couple hours later and he is on the side of the rock
with
> > his foot attached to the bottom. So my question now is is there a way
to
> > make him stay on top of the rock? I've read (on here I think) that I
can
> > bury the rock level with the sand with no other rocks close enough that
he
> > can get to it without crossing the sand and he would stay put because he
> > couldn't get traction in the sand to make a move. Do you know if this
will
> > work? I will have to rearrange the tank but am willing to do so if it
will
> > keep him from killing himself. Thanks for helping. So far I've never
had a
> > problem with anything you have told me so I'll take any advise you might
be
> > willing to give. Also can you give me the link to your web site so I
can
> > show the wife what I'm trying to do with my little operation, in time?
> > Thanks alot.
> >
> > Ed
>
> --
> Personal Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/oanda/index.html
> Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com
> Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com
>
>

[Marc Levenson]

Hi Ed,

First of all, isn't it cool how clowns can take to an anemone and stick to it?
I love that look. Great pictures!

I know what you are trying to accompish by showcasing your prized anemone in the
perfect visual spot. However, these creatures prefer to pick their own spot.
Maybe I just got lucky, because mine chose the perfect spot within 3 days of
being acclimated to the tank.

If you'll feed it a *piece* of a shrimp every 3 days, it will grow a little more
quickly and be able to handle your large clowns. Eventually your BTA will be
12" wide or better, and the clowns will have an excellent home.

Marc


Adam wrote:

> Hi Marc,
>
> Just wanted to give an update on my wayward Anemone. As per advice on your
> site I made a few adjustments to how I had earlier placed my BTA. I moved
> him lower in the tank (still facing up towards the light). But I moved him
> out of the direct current of a power head that he was in front of on the
> first move. He seems to like it much better in this position. Here are the
> latest photos. http://webpages.charter.net/sal****er/ Do you think that he
> might be taking cover to avoid the constant attention of my YSMClowns? The
> female is much larger than the BTA and I was thinking that she might be just
> a little to much for him. The BTA seems to perk right up when placed in the
> light but before long it tends to run for cover and then starts to look
> almost dead. Any advice? Thanks for your help.
>
> Ed
>
> "Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Hi Ed,
> >
> > Maybe you shouldn't try to put it facing upwards. If it wants to be at
> the top,
> > it will ascend toward the light for its needs.
> >
> > I was suggesting you rotate the rock to face the front rather than the
> back, if
> > possible. To the anemone, it might not notice this lateral move and stay
> put
> > where it feels secure.
> >
> > And in this way you can still see it to enjoy it.
> >
> > There are many pages on my site, so be sure to click on the "Helpful Tips"
> page
> > to find them all.
> >
> > Marc
> >
> >
> > Adam wrote:
> >
> > > Howdy Marc,
> > >
> > > I moved the rock he is on to the top of the tank facing the top
> (lights).
> > > He opened right up and the clowns were all over him. Everyone looked
> happy.
> > > Now here it is a couple hours later and he is on the side of the rock
> with
> > > his foot attached to the bottom. So my question now is is there a way
> to
> > > make him stay on top of the rock? I've read (on here I think) that I
> can
> > > bury the rock level with the sand with no other rocks close enough that
> he
> > > can get to it without crossing the sand and he would stay put because he
> > > couldn't get traction in the sand to make a move. Do you know if this
> will
> > > work? I will have to rearrange the tank but am willing to do so if it
> will
> > > keep him from killing himself. Thanks for helping. So far I've never
> had a
> > > problem with anything you have told me so I'll take any advise you might
> be
> > > willing to give. Also can you give me the link to your web site so I
> can
> > > show the wife what I'm trying to do with my little operation, in time?
> > > Thanks alot.
> > >
> > > Ed
> >
> > --
> > Personal Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/oanda/index.html
> > Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com
> > Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com
> >
> >

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[Adam]

Howdy again Marc,

You are right I'm trying to put him (it) out front and sitting upright to
make him "showy" but the bigger issue is that when he makes a move it is
usually to an area where he gets little to no light and soon there after he
starts looking brown around the edges and his tenicles get stringy looking
and he just looks like he's dieing or dead. I did manage to get a couple
shrimp to him yesterday after I made the move that I showed you in the
pictures. But as you'll see from the pictures I'm sending this time, he's
moved to a position were I'm not going to be able to target feed him. I
have no problem now with leaving him where ever he wants to move to but as I
said before I don't want to sit by while he kills himself. Anyway here's
todays photos http://webpages.charter.net/sal****er/ BTW that is the
decorator crab in a few of the photos. The one you told me I'd have to try
to see if it could live in the same tank as the Anemone. He's been in there
for three days and doesn't seem to pay the BTA any attention at all.

Thanks for all your help Marc

Ed

"Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
...
> Hi Ed,
>
> First of all, isn't it cool how clowns can take to an anemone and stick to
it?
> I love that look. Great pictures!
>
> I know what you are trying to accompish by showcasing your prized anemone
in the
> perfect visual spot. However, these creatures prefer to pick their own
spot.
> Maybe I just got lucky, because mine chose the perfect spot within 3 days
of
> being acclimated to the tank.
>
> If you'll feed it a *piece* of a shrimp every 3 days, it will grow a
little more
> quickly and be able to handle your large clowns. Eventually your BTA will
be
> 12" wide or better, and the clowns will have an excellent home.
>
> Marc

[Rod]

>Do you think that he
>might be taking cover to avoid the constant attention of my YSMClowns? The
>female is much larger than the BTA and I was thinking that she might be just
>a little to much for him.

This is an issueu that is often overlooked. Many time large clowns will
pester/irritate an anemone if the anemone is small.. sometimes enough to cause
a slow death of the anemone.
Rod Buehler
www.asplashoflife.com

[Marc Levenson]

Adam,

Have you read this article yet?

http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/bubbletipanemones.htm

It is in a bad spot as you pointed out, but the clownfish are surely in there
with it.

Don't overfeed your anemone. It only needs enough food to feed itself, without
having to regurgitate any excess. That is why I said a piece of a shrimp, not
"feed it shrimp".

I've often times thought about taking a picture of my BTA every hour for a 24
hour period and documenting it on my site. It can look absolutely gorgeous one
hour, and a few hours later look like it is surely dead. Later it perks up
again. I don't believe this is necessarily natural to be honest. It may have
to do with my particular way of reefkeeping, or this is how it responds to
captivity. I've had it for 17 months now, so I must be doing something right.

That is one SCARY crab you got in there. HUGE. :)

Marc


Adam wrote:

> Howdy again Marc,
>
> You are right I'm trying to put him (it) out front and sitting upright to
> make him "showy" but the bigger issue is that when he makes a move it is
> usually to an area where he gets little to no light and soon there after he
> starts looking brown around the edges and his tenicles get stringy looking
> and he just looks like he's dieing or dead. I did manage to get a couple
> shrimp to him yesterday after I made the move that I showed you in the
> pictures. But as you'll see from the pictures I'm sending this time, he's
> moved to a position were I'm not going to be able to target feed him. I
> have no problem now with leaving him where ever he wants to move to but as I
> said before I don't want to sit by while he kills himself. Anyway here's
> todays photos http://webpages.charter.net/sal****er/ BTW that is the
> decorator crab in a few of the photos. The one you told me I'd have to try
> to see if it could live in the same tank as the Anemone. He's been in there
> for three days and doesn't seem to pay the BTA any attention at all.
>
> Thanks for all your help Marc
>
> Ed
>
> "Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Hi Ed,
> >
> > First of all, isn't it cool how clowns can take to an anemone and stick to
> it?
> > I love that look. Great pictures!
> >
> > I know what you are trying to accompish by showcasing your prized anemone
> in the
> > perfect visual spot. However, these creatures prefer to pick their own
> spot.
> > Maybe I just got lucky, because mine chose the perfect spot within 3 days
> of
> > being acclimated to the tank.
> >
> > If you'll feed it a *piece* of a shrimp every 3 days, it will grow a
> little more
> > quickly and be able to handle your large clowns. Eventually your BTA will
> be
> > 12" wide or better, and the clowns will have an excellent home.
> >
> > Marc

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[Adam]

Marc,

"Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
...
> Adam,
>
> Have you read this article yet?
>
>
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/bubbletipanemones.htm

I had read it before but just reread it to make sure I hadn't missed
anything. This was the article I had mentioned in an earlier post about
making the BTA an island. In the article you call it a "Bommie". I'm
considering doing this but size is a problem as I am dealing with a 30
gallon tank. I might end up doing it any way.
Another thought I had (I think I got it from a picture on your site) was to
put the BTA out on a rock and put a cut off two liter soda bottle over it to
keep the Clowns off of it till it gets bigger. What do you think?

> It is in a bad spot as you pointed out, but the clownfish are surely in
there
> with it.

Just the male can fit in there. This is why I was wondering if the larger
female's constant harrassment was the reason for the BTA going into hiding.
Every time it moves it goes somewhere where the male can still get to it but
the female can't. Poor girl looks really depressed when it does that.

> Don't overfeed your anemone. It only needs enough food to feed itself,
without
> having to regurgitate any excess. That is why I said a piece of a shrimp,
not
> "feed it shrimp".

I don't think I was to clear when I said I got a couple shimp to it. I
didn't mean full size shrimp like you buy fresh in a store. It was frozen
shrimp in a cube. The kind that have what seems like a hundred shrimp or so
per cube. The BTA only got two or three of these.

> I've often times thought about taking a picture of my BTA every hour for a
24
> hour period and documenting it on my site. It can look absolutely
gorgeous one
> hour, and a few hours later look like it is surely dead. Later it perks
up
> again. I don't believe this is necessarily natural to be honest. It may
have
> to do with my particular way of reefkeeping, or this is how it responds to
> captivity. I've had it for 17 months now, so I must be doing something
right.

Mine gets to looking so bad at times that I feel like I have to do some
thing to save it. I wish you would do the picture thing so that I could see
if mine looks as bad as yours at it's worste.

> That is one SCARY crab you got in there. HUGE. :)

Gotta love him. He holds the distiction of being the very first invert I
bought on purpose.

Thanks again for walking me through this stuff.

Ed

> Marc
>
>
> Adam wrote:
>
> > Howdy again Marc,
> >
> > You are right I'm trying to put him (it) out front and sitting upright
to
> > make him "showy" but the bigger issue is that when he makes a move it is
> > usually to an area where he gets little to no light and soon there after
he
> > starts looking brown around the edges and his tenicles get stringy
looking
> > and he just looks like he's dieing or dead. I did manage to get a
couple
> > shrimp to him yesterday after I made the move that I showed you in the
> > pictures. But as you'll see from the pictures I'm sending this time,
he's
> > moved to a position were I'm not going to be able to target feed him. I
> > have no problem now with leaving him where ever he wants to move to but
as I
> > said before I don't want to sit by while he kills himself. Anyway
here's
> > todays photos http://webpages.charter.net/sal****er/ BTW that is the
> > decorator crab in a few of the photos. The one you told me I'd have to
try
> > to see if it could live in the same tank as the Anemone. He's been in
there
> > for three days and doesn't seem to pay the BTA any attention at all.
> >
> > Thanks for all your help Marc
> >
> > Ed
> >
> > "Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Hi Ed,
> > >
> > > First of all, isn't it cool how clowns can take to an anemone and
stick to
> > it?
> > > I love that look. Great pictures!
> > >
> > > I know what you are trying to accompish by showcasing your prized
anemone
> > in the
> > > perfect visual spot. However, these creatures prefer to pick their
own
> > spot.
> > > Maybe I just got lucky, because mine chose the perfect spot within 3
days
> > of
> > > being acclimated to the tank.
> > >
> > > If you'll feed it a *piece* of a shrimp every 3 days, it will grow a
> > little more
> > > quickly and be able to handle your large clowns. Eventually your BTA
will
> > be
> > > 12" wide or better, and the clowns will have an excellent home.
> > >
> > > Marc
>
> --
> Personal Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/oanda/index.html
> Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com
> Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com
>
>

[Joe V.]

Not sure if this is any help, but how's the water circulation in the tank?
I'm still a newbie and learning the ABCs of reef-keeping, but I did notice
that my anemone was miserable until I improved the water movement inside the
tank. Almost instantly, my anemone moved to a new location and spread out,
and now it's doing pretty good.

joe

"Adam" > wrote in message
...
> Howdy Marc,
>
> I moved the rock he is on to the top of the tank facing the top (lights).
> He opened right up and the clowns were all over him. Everyone looked

[Adam]

Joe,

This was a good response but unfortunately I turn over about 10 times the
tanks capacity per hour. The tank is 30 gallons with a backpack type
filter, a backpack type skimmer and three powerheads run at different water
levels. I've tried putting the BTA in the water stream and out of it. I'm
really starting to think it just wants to get away from the large YSMClown.
Thanks for your input though.

Ed

"Joe V." > wrote in message
...
> Not sure if this is any help, but how's the water circulation in the tank?
> I'm still a newbie and learning the ABCs of reef-keeping, but I did notice
> that my anemone was miserable until I improved the water movement inside
the
> tank. Almost instantly, my anemone moved to a new location and spread out,
> and now it's doing pretty good.
>
> joe
>
> "Adam" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Howdy Marc,
> >
> > I moved the rock he is on to the top of the tank facing the top
(lights).
> > He opened right up and the clowns were all over him. Everyone looked
>
>

[Marc Levenson]

Adam wrote:

> http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/bubbletipanemones.htm
>
> I had read it before but just reread it to make sure I hadn't missed
> anything. This was the article I had mentioned in an earlier post about
> making the BTA an island. In the article you call it a "Bommie". I'm
> considering doing this but size is a problem as I am dealing with a 30
> gallon tank. I might end up doing it any way.

Ed, that is'nt my article, although it was written by Marc from this group as well.
He goes by "marcq" when he posts. Nice guy, btw!

> Another thought I had (I think I got it from a picture on your site) was to
> put the BTA out on a rock and put a cut off two liter soda bottle over it to
> keep the Clowns off of it till it gets bigger. What do you think?

You could try it, but you must realize that even with lots of holes drilled in it,
you'll reduce the current quite a bit and the anemone will feel that difference as
well. LOL.... just thinking about it, I bet you'd end up with a 2 liter bottle with
an anemone glued to it. heheheh

> Just the male can fit in there. This is why I was wondering if the larger
> female's constant harrassment was the reason for the BTA going into hiding.
> Every time it moves it goes somewhere where the male can still get to it but
> the female can't. Poor girl looks really depressed when it does that.

She'll be fine.

> I don't think I was to clear when I said I got a couple shimp to it. I
> didn't mean full size shrimp like you buy fresh in a store. It was frozen
> shrimp in a cube. The kind that have what seems like a hundred shrimp or so
> per cube. The BTA only got two or three of these.

Sounds like Brine or Mysis perhaps? You can also feed it half a cube of thawed
Formula One as an alternative. I did that in the first few months.

> Mine gets to looking so bad at times that I feel like I have to do some
> thing to save it. I wish you would do the picture thing so that I could see
> if mine looks as bad as yours at it's worste.

I'll have to get to it. I've got a lot of pictures of the anemone doing wierd stuff,
and I started to make a page about it once, but it wasn't going as planned and I quit
working on it.

Marc

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[Adam]

"Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Adam wrote:
>
> >
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/bubbletipanemones.htm
> >
> > I had read it before but just reread it to make sure I hadn't missed
> > anything. This was the article I had mentioned in an earlier post about
> > making the BTA an island. In the article you call it a "Bommie". I'm
> > considering doing this but size is a problem as I am dealing with a 30
> > gallon tank. I might end up doing it any way.
>
> Ed, that is'nt my article, although it was written by Marc from this group
as well.
> He goes by "marcq" when he posts. Nice guy, btw!

Sorry. He must be pretty nice if he spends his time trying to help others.

> > Another thought I had (I think I got it from a picture on your site) was
to
> > put the BTA out on a rock and put a cut off two liter soda bottle over
it to
> > keep the Clowns off of it till it gets bigger. What do you think?
>
> You could try it, but you must realize that even with lots of holes
drilled in it,
> you'll reduce the current quite a bit and the anemone will feel that
difference as
> well. LOL.... just thinking about it, I bet you'd end up with a 2 liter
bottle with
> an anemone glued to it. heheheh

Yea I got that image too when i was looking at my tank trying to picture how
I could set it up.

> > Just the male can fit in there. This is why I was wondering if the
larger
> > female's constant harrassment was the reason for the BTA going into
hiding.
> > Every time it moves it goes somewhere where the male can still get to it
but
> > the female can't. Poor girl looks really depressed when it does that.
>
> She'll be fine.
>
> > I don't think I was to clear when I said I got a couple shimp to it. I
> > didn't mean full size shrimp like you buy fresh in a store. It was
frozen
> > shrimp in a cube. The kind that have what seems like a hundred shrimp
or so
> > per cube. The BTA only got two or three of these.
>
> Sounds like Brine or Mysis perhaps? You can also feed it half a cube of
thawed
> Formula One as an alternative. I did that in the first few months.

It was Mysis. I have read that brine has very little nutritional value so I
didn't want to give it that because of the infrequent feedings that you
suggested.

> > Mine gets to looking so bad at times that I feel like I have to do some
> > thing to save it. I wish you would do the picture thing so that I could
see
> > if mine looks as bad as yours at it's worste.
>
> I'll have to get to it. I've got a lot of pictures of the anemone doing
wierd stuff,
> and I started to make a page about it once, but it wasn't going as planned
and I quit
> working on it.

Cool. You can also send pictures to my email address if you feel like it.

> Marc
>
> --
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> Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com
> Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com

Thanks again.

Ed

[Dragon Slayer]

"Adam" > wrote in message
...
>
> I have read that brine has very little nutritional value so I
> didn't want to give it that because of the infrequent feedings that you
> suggested.
>



Even King Marc suggested once that "brine shrimp to fish are like eating
potato chips to humans" and I begged to differ.

I have been feeding newly hatched baby brine shrimp to my tanks (both
tropical and marine) for years and they make a vast difference in the growth
rates of fish. they also make for very healthy fish so the statements about
them lacking nutritional value just doesn't hold true.


kc

[Dragon Slayer]

you could always try moving the clown to a different holding tank for a
while and see.

kc

"Adam" > wrote in message
...
> Joe,
>
> This was a good response but unfortunately I turn over about 10 times the
> tanks capacity per hour. The tank is 30 gallons with a backpack type
> filter, a backpack type skimmer and three powerheads run at different
water
> levels. I've tried putting the BTA in the water stream and out of it.
I'm
> really starting to think it just wants to get away from the large
YSMClown.
> Thanks for your input though.
>
> Ed
>
> "Joe V." > wrote in message
> ...
> > Not sure if this is any help, but how's the water circulation in the
tank?
> > I'm still a newbie and learning the ABCs of reef-keeping, but I did
notice
> > that my anemone was miserable until I improved the water movement inside
> the
> > tank. Almost instantly, my anemone moved to a new location and spread
out,
> > and now it's doing pretty good.
> >
> > joe
> >
> > "Adam" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Howdy Marc,
> > >
> > > I moved the rock he is on to the top of the tank facing the top
> (lights).
> > > He opened right up and the clowns were all over him. Everyone looked
> >
> >
>
>

[Marc Levenson]

There is a difference between brine shrimp and nauptili (newly hatched brine
with the yolk-sac still attached). BBS are far more nutritious if fed to your
tank, which is between 48 and 72 hours (after they were set up to hatch).

Dragon Slayer wrote:

> Even King Marc suggested once that "brine shrimp to fish are like eating
> potato chips to humans" and I begged to differ.
>
> I have been feeding newly hatched baby brine shrimp to my tanks (both
> tropical and marine) for years and they make a vast difference in the growth
> rates of fish. they also make for very healthy fish so the statements about
> them lacking nutritional value just doesn't hold true.
>
> kc

--
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[Adam]

KC,

The only problem I have with that is that I don't have another tank (or
location for one). I have two sal****er tanks now and they already separate
fish that the group has told me won't work together. Also, if I could swing
another tank do you think that separating the paired clowns might end their
relationship upon the return (as in "Where have you been? I've been worried
sick.)? :-) Now that I have several critters accumulated the balancing act
is getting much tougher.

Ed

"Dragon Slayer" > wrote in message
...
> you could always try moving the clown to a different holding tank for a
> while and see.
>
> kc
>
> "Adam" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Joe,
> >
> > This was a good response but unfortunately I turn over about 10 times
the
> > tanks capacity per hour. The tank is 30 gallons with a backpack type
> > filter, a backpack type skimmer and three powerheads run at different
> water
> > levels. I've tried putting the BTA in the water stream and out of it.
> I'm
> > really starting to think it just wants to get away from the large
> YSMClown.
> > Thanks for your input though.
> >
> > Ed
> >
> > "Joe V." > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Not sure if this is any help, but how's the water circulation in the
> tank?
> > > I'm still a newbie and learning the ABCs of reef-keeping, but I did
> notice
> > > that my anemone was miserable until I improved the water movement
inside
> > the
> > > tank. Almost instantly, my anemone moved to a new location and spread
> out,
> > > and now it's doing pretty good.
> > >
> > > joe
> > >
> > > "Adam" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Howdy Marc,
> > > >
> > > > I moved the rock he is on to the top of the tank facing the top
> > (lights).
> > > > He opened right up and the clowns were all over him. Everyone
looked
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Adam]

I was just relating what I'd read somewhere. I'm pretty new to this stuff.
It's all Greek to me. Someone help me!!! Ok I'm better now. So you're
saying I need to hatch sea monkeys now? I tried that once but had very bad
results. I even bought a special kit to do it with. Don't think I had one
survivor. But if you fine folks care to run me through it I'll give it
another try. You all know way more than I do on this stuff so tell me where
to begin and I'll get it done. Thanks

Ed


"Dragon Slayer" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Adam" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > I have read that brine has very little nutritional value so I
> > didn't want to give it that because of the infrequent feedings that you
> > suggested.
> >
>
>
>
> Even King Marc suggested once that "brine shrimp to fish are like eating
> potato chips to humans" and I begged to differ.
>
> I have been feeding newly hatched baby brine shrimp to my tanks (both
> tropical and marine) for years and they make a vast difference in the
growth
> rates of fish. they also make for very healthy fish so the statements
about
> them lacking nutritional value just doesn't hold true.
>
>
> kc
>
>

[Adam]

Marc,

Like I said to KC, Tell me where to start and I'll get right on it.

Ed

"Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
...
> There is a difference between brine shrimp and nauptili (newly hatched
brine
> with the yolk-sac still attached). BBS are far more nutritious if fed to
your
> tank, which is between 48 and 72 hours (after they were set up to hatch).
>
> Dragon Slayer wrote:
>
> > Even King Marc suggested once that "brine shrimp to fish are like eating
> > potato chips to humans" and I begged to differ.
> >
> > I have been feeding newly hatched baby brine shrimp to my tanks (both
> > tropical and marine) for years and they make a vast difference in the
growth
> > rates of fish. they also make for very healthy fish so the statements
about
> > them lacking nutritional value just doesn't hold true.
> >
> > kc
>
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> Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com
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>
>

[Marc Levenson]

http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/tank/extras_page.html

Scroll down to the base of the webpage.

Marc

Adam wrote:

> I was just relating what I'd read somewhere. I'm pretty new to this stuff.
> It's all Greek to me. Someone help me!!! Ok I'm better now. So you're
> saying I need to hatch sea monkeys now? I tried that once but had very bad
> results. I even bought a special kit to do it with. Don't think I had one
> survivor. But if you fine folks care to run me through it I'll give it
> another try. You all know way more than I do on this stuff so tell me where
> to begin and I'll get it done. Thanks
>
> Ed
>

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[Dragon Slayer]

I didn't read Marc's link but here is what I do:

I take a glass gallon jar and fill it with water from the tank (water change
water is great for this) add a small pump w/ airstone. put in 1tsp of eggs
(cysts as some call them) and at 85 deg (you can use a heater to keep this
up, I do in the winter) they hatch within 20 hrs and you can feed your tank
daily. without the heater and a temp closer to 75ish it takes close to 40
hrs to hatch IME. I also add a drop or two of iodine, I believe it helps
them hatch easier and gives better ratio of hatching.

after they hatch I turn off the air pump and allow things to settle for
about 10 min, then I siphon off the live brine shrimp making sure not to
pick up the hatched egg shells on the bottom or the unhatched ones on the
top of the water.

I add them directly to the tanks and being that they only have a change of
temp to deal with (they are tough little critters IME) they live in the tank
until they are consumed rather then die salinity shock is the best killer
IME when hatching/moving them from jar to tank.

after a few times if adding the siphoned water back to the jar and allowing
it to settle again and doing the process over again (I have a few tanks to
feed) I add the remainder to a tank that I "grow out" the baby brine to
adults in. I feed them phytoplankton and they grow to adult size in about 6
weeks.

here lately I have just about stopped the growing to adult as I don't have
many fish that require it anymore. I used to do it mostly for my tropical
angels but I've about done away with all of them. and my tangs wont touch
brine regardless stage of growth.

kc

[Marc Levenson]

You didn't have to read mine, it was more a picture and a recipe. :)

Very interesting how you have been doing that, DS. Thanks for detailing it for
us.

Marc


Dragon Slayer wrote:

> I didn't read Marc's link but here is what I do:
>
> I take a glass gallon jar and fill it with water from the tank (water change
> water is great for this) add a small pump w/ airstone. put in 1tsp of eggs
> (cysts as some call them) and at 85 deg (you can use a heater to keep this
> up, I do in the winter) they hatch within 20 hrs and you can feed your tank
> daily. without the heater and a temp closer to 75ish it takes close to 40
> hrs to hatch IME. I also add a drop or two of iodine, I believe it helps
> them hatch easier and gives better ratio of hatching.
>
> after they hatch I turn off the air pump and allow things to settle for
> about 10 min, then I siphon off the live brine shrimp making sure not to
> pick up the hatched egg shells on the bottom or the unhatched ones on the
> top of the water.
>
> I add them directly to the tanks and being that they only have a change of
> temp to deal with (they are tough little critters IME) they live in the tank
> until they are consumed rather then die salinity shock is the best killer
> IME when hatching/moving them from jar to tank.
>
> after a few times if adding the siphoned water back to the jar and allowing
> it to settle again and doing the process over again (I have a few tanks to
> feed) I add the remainder to a tank that I "grow out" the baby brine to
> adults in. I feed them phytoplankton and they grow to adult size in about 6
> weeks.
>
> here lately I have just about stopped the growing to adult as I don't have
> many fish that require it anymore. I used to do it mostly for my tropical
> angels but I've about done away with all of them. and my tangs wont touch
> brine regardless stage of growth.
>
> kc

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[Dragon Slayer]

if they are a pair, I'd keep them together.

if they are a breading pair (meaning they spawn regularly now) then don't
move either.

kc

"Adam" > wrote in message
...
> KC,
>
> The only problem I have with that is that I don't have another tank (or
> location for one). I have two sal****er tanks now and they already
separate
> fish that the group has told me won't work together. Also, if I could
swing
> another tank do you think that separating the paired clowns might end
their
> relationship upon the return (as in "Where have you been? I've been
worried
> sick.)? :-) Now that I have several critters accumulated the balancing
act
> is getting much tougher.
>
> Ed
>
> "Dragon Slayer" > wrote in message
> ...
> > you could always try moving the clown to a different holding tank for a
> > while and see.
> >
> > kc
> >
> > "Adam" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Joe,
> > >
> > > This was a good response but unfortunately I turn over about 10 times
> the
> > > tanks capacity per hour. The tank is 30 gallons with a backpack type
> > > filter, a backpack type skimmer and three powerheads run at different
> > water
> > > levels. I've tried putting the BTA in the water stream and out of it.
> > I'm
> > > really starting to think it just wants to get away from the large
> > YSMClown.
> > > Thanks for your input though.
> > >
> > > Ed
> > >
> > > "Joe V." > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Not sure if this is any help, but how's the water circulation in the
> > tank?
> > > > I'm still a newbie and learning the ABCs of reef-keeping, but I did
> > notice
> > > > that my anemone was miserable until I improved the water movement
> inside
> > > the
> > > > tank. Almost instantly, my anemone moved to a new location and
spread
> > out,
> > > > and now it's doing pretty good.
> > > >
> > > > joe
> > > >
> > > > "Adam" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > Howdy Marc,
> > > > >
> > > > > I moved the rock he is on to the top of the tank facing the top
> > > (lights).
> > > > > He opened right up and the clowns were all over him. Everyone
> looked
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Dragon Slayer]

also I have read of people taking a mated pair and using an extra overflow
box hanging inside the tank to temporarily house a clown while they worked
out marriage issues. might be worth a shot for you.

kc

"Adam" > wrote in message
...
> KC,
>
> The only problem I have with that is that I don't have another tank (or
> location for one). I have two sal****er tanks now and they already
separate
> fish that the group has told me won't work together. Also, if I could
swing
> another tank do you think that separating the paired clowns might end
their
> relationship upon the return (as in "Where have you been? I've been
worried
> sick.)? :-) Now that I have several critters accumulated the balancing
act
> is getting much tougher.
>
> Ed
>
> "Dragon Slayer" > wrote in message
> ...
> > you could always try moving the clown to a different holding tank for a
> > while and see.
> >
> > kc
> >
> > "Adam" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Joe,
> > >
> > > This was a good response but unfortunately I turn over about 10 times
> the
> > > tanks capacity per hour. The tank is 30 gallons with a backpack type
> > > filter, a backpack type skimmer and three powerheads run at different
> > water
> > > levels. I've tried putting the BTA in the water stream and out of it.
> > I'm
> > > really starting to think it just wants to get away from the large
> > YSMClown.
> > > Thanks for your input though.
> > >
> > > Ed
> > >
> > > "Joe V." > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Not sure if this is any help, but how's the water circulation in the
> > tank?
> > > > I'm still a newbie and learning the ABCs of reef-keeping, but I did
> > notice
> > > > that my anemone was miserable until I improved the water movement
> inside
> > > the
> > > > tank. Almost instantly, my anemone moved to a new location and
spread
> > out,
> > > > and now it's doing pretty good.
> > > >
> > > > joe
> > > >
> > > > "Adam" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > Howdy Marc,
> > > > >
> > > > > I moved the rock he is on to the top of the tank facing the top
> > > (lights).
> > > > > He opened right up and the clowns were all over him. Everyone
> looked
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[CapFusion]

"Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
...
> You didn't have to read mine, it was more a picture and a recipe. :)
>
> Very interesting how you have been doing that, DS. Thanks for detailing
it for
> us.
>
> Marc

Beside King Marc site, you can try this site, too -
http://www.webrbiz.com/angelfish/bbshatch05.html

CapFusion,...

[who]

Adam wrote:

> KC,
>
> The only problem I have with that is that I don't have another tank (or
> location for one). I have two sal****er tanks now and they already separate
> fish that the group has told me won't work together. Also, if I could swing
> another tank do you think that separating the paired clowns might end their
> relationship upon the return (as in "Where have you been? I've been worried
> sick.)? :-) Now that I have several critters accumulated the balancing act
> is getting much tougher.
>
> Ed




How about putting a basket over the anemone? Like the plastic kind you
buy berries in at the grocery store. It would allow decent water flow.
You could cut larger openings to let the smaller clown in (or they
could both do without for awhile and let the anemone recover from thei
attentions).

Lisa
mlgarner @ netins(dot)net

[Adam]

Thanks again Marc. This cleared up a few of the problems that weren't
addressed with "the kit". I'll give it another try in a week or so.

Ed

"Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
...
> http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/tank/extras_page.html
>
> Scroll down to the base of the webpage.
>
> Marc
>
> Adam wrote:
>
> > I was just relating what I'd read somewhere. I'm pretty new to this
stuff.
> > It's all Greek to me. Someone help me!!! Ok I'm better now. So you're
> > saying I need to hatch sea monkeys now? I tried that once but had very
bad
> > results. I even bought a special kit to do it with. Don't think I had
one
> > survivor. But if you fine folks care to run me through it I'll give it
> > another try. You all know way more than I do on this stuff so tell me
where
> > to begin and I'll get it done. Thanks
> >
> > Ed
> >
>
> --
> Personal Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/oanda/index.html
> Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com
> Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com
>
>

[Adam]

Thank you KC. This addresses the same issues that Marc's web posting does.
So like I replied to him. I'll give it another try in a week or so.

Ed

"Dragon Slayer" > wrote in message
...
> I didn't read Marc's link but here is what I do:
>
> I take a glass gallon jar and fill it with water from the tank (water
change
> water is great for this) add a small pump w/ airstone. put in 1tsp of
eggs
> (cysts as some call them) and at 85 deg (you can use a heater to keep this
> up, I do in the winter) they hatch within 20 hrs and you can feed your
tank
> daily. without the heater and a temp closer to 75ish it takes close to 40
> hrs to hatch IME. I also add a drop or two of iodine, I believe it helps
> them hatch easier and gives better ratio of hatching.
>
> after they hatch I turn off the air pump and allow things to settle for
> about 10 min, then I siphon off the live brine shrimp making sure not to
> pick up the hatched egg shells on the bottom or the unhatched ones on the
> top of the water.
>
> I add them directly to the tanks and being that they only have a change of
> temp to deal with (they are tough little critters IME) they live in the
tank
> until they are consumed rather then die salinity shock is the best killer
> IME when hatching/moving them from jar to tank.
>
> after a few times if adding the siphoned water back to the jar and
allowing
> it to settle again and doing the process over again (I have a few tanks to
> feed) I add the remainder to a tank that I "grow out" the baby brine to
> adults in. I feed them phytoplankton and they grow to adult size in about
6
> weeks.
>
> here lately I have just about stopped the growing to adult as I don't have
> many fish that require it anymore. I used to do it mostly for my tropical
> angels but I've about done away with all of them. and my tangs wont touch
> brine regardless stage of growth.
>
> kc
>
>

[Adam]

Thanks CapFusion. I now have plenty of information to get started with.
What did folks ever do before this newsgroup? Other than kill fish that
is...:-)

Ed


"CapFusion" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
> ...
> > You didn't have to read mine, it was more a picture and a recipe. :)
> >
> > Very interesting how you have been doing that, DS. Thanks for detailing
> it for
> > us.
> >
> > Marc
>
> Beside King Marc site, you can try this site, too -
> http://www.webrbiz.com/angelfish/bbshatch05.html
>
> CapFusion,...
>
>

[Adam]

Dragon Slayer,

They are a pair but haven't spawned yet. I think I need to work on my
lighting regiments a little before that will happen (Yet another thing I
could use some instruction with). I will keep them together for now though.

Ed

"Dragon Slayer" > wrote in message
...
> if they are a pair, I'd keep them together.
>
> if they are a breading pair (meaning they spawn regularly now) then don't
> move either.
>
> kc
>
> "Adam" > wrote in message
> ...
> > KC,
> >
> > The only problem I have with that is that I don't have another tank (or
> > location for one). I have two sal****er tanks now and they already
> separate
> > fish that the group has told me won't work together. Also, if I could
> swing
> > another tank do you think that separating the paired clowns might end
> their
> > relationship upon the return (as in "Where have you been? I've been
> worried
> > sick.)? :-) Now that I have several critters accumulated the balancing
> act
> > is getting much tougher.
> >
> > Ed
> >
> > "Dragon Slayer" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > you could always try moving the clown to a different holding tank for
a
> > > while and see.
> > >
> > > kc
> > >
> > > "Adam" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Joe,
> > > >
> > > > This was a good response but unfortunately I turn over about 10
times
> > the
> > > > tanks capacity per hour. The tank is 30 gallons with a backpack
type
> > > > filter, a backpack type skimmer and three powerheads run at
different
> > > water
> > > > levels. I've tried putting the BTA in the water stream and out of
it.
> > > I'm
> > > > really starting to think it just wants to get away from the large
> > > YSMClown.
> > > > Thanks for your input though.
> > > >
> > > > Ed
> > > >
> > > > "Joe V." > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > Not sure if this is any help, but how's the water circulation in
the
> > > tank?
> > > > > I'm still a newbie and learning the ABCs of reef-keeping, but I
did
> > > notice
> > > > > that my anemone was miserable until I improved the water movement
> > inside
> > > > the
> > > > > tank. Almost instantly, my anemone moved to a new location and
> spread
> > > out,
> > > > > and now it's doing pretty good.
> > > > >
> > > > > joe
> > > > >
> > > > > "Adam" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > Howdy Marc,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I moved the rock he is on to the top of the tank facing the top
> > > > (lights).
> > > > > > He opened right up and the clowns were all over him. Everyone
> > looked
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Adam]

Dragon Slayer,

That don't sound like to bad of an idea. I think the BTA has finally found
a pretty suitable location (for it, not me) though. It is under a rock but
just enough that it can stick its' top out to get to the light. At night it
pulls in under the rock and don't get bothered. I think I'll leave well
enough alone for now. Thanks for the help.

Ed

"Dragon Slayer" > wrote in message
...
> also I have read of people taking a mated pair and using an extra overflow
> box hanging inside the tank to temporarily house a clown while they worked
> out marriage issues. might be worth a shot for you.
>
> kc
>
> "Adam" > wrote in message
> ...
> > KC,
> >
> > The only problem I have with that is that I don't have another tank (or
> > location for one). I have two sal****er tanks now and they already
> separate
> > fish that the group has told me won't work together. Also, if I could
> swing
> > another tank do you think that separating the paired clowns might end
> their
> > relationship upon the return (as in "Where have you been? I've been
> worried
> > sick.)? :-) Now that I have several critters accumulated the balancing
> act
> > is getting much tougher.
> >
> > Ed
> >
> > "Dragon Slayer" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > you could always try moving the clown to a different holding tank for
a
> > > while and see.
> > >
> > > kc
> > >
> > > "Adam" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Joe,
> > > >
> > > > This was a good response but unfortunately I turn over about 10
times
> > the
> > > > tanks capacity per hour. The tank is 30 gallons with a backpack
type
> > > > filter, a backpack type skimmer and three powerheads run at
different
> > > water
> > > > levels. I've tried putting the BTA in the water stream and out of
it.
> > > I'm
> > > > really starting to think it just wants to get away from the large
> > > YSMClown.
> > > > Thanks for your input though.
> > > >
> > > > Ed
> > > >
> > > > "Joe V." > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > Not sure if this is any help, but how's the water circulation in
the
> > > tank?
> > > > > I'm still a newbie and learning the ABCs of reef-keeping, but I
did
> > > notice
> > > > > that my anemone was miserable until I improved the water movement
> > inside
> > > > the
> > > > > tank. Almost instantly, my anemone moved to a new location and
> spread
> > > out,
> > > > > and now it's doing pretty good.
> > > > >
> > > > > joe
> > > > >
> > > > > "Adam" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > Howdy Marc,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I moved the rock he is on to the top of the tank facing the top
> > > > (lights).
> > > > > > He opened right up and the clowns were all over him. Everyone
> > looked
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Adam]

> > KC,
> >
> > The only problem I have with that is that I don't have another tank (or
> > location for one). I have two sal****er tanks now and they already
separate
> > fish that the group has told me won't work together. Also, if I could
swing
> > another tank do you think that separating the paired clowns might end
their
> > relationship upon the return (as in "Where have you been? I've been
worried
> > sick.)? :-) Now that I have several critters accumulated the balancing
act
> > is getting much tougher.
> >
> > Ed
>
>
>
>
> How about putting a basket over the anemone? Like the plastic kind you
> buy berries in at the grocery store. It would allow decent water flow.
> You could cut larger openings to let the smaller clown in (or they
> could both do without for awhile and let the anemone recover from thei
> attentions).
>
> Lisa

Lisa,

Yet another idea to try if my BTA doesn't like its' current location under
its' rock. Like I told DS, It's under just far enough to stick its' "head"
out for light and pull back under when the lights are out. Thanks for the
idea I'm sure I'll be able to use it at some point in time.

Ed

[CapFusion]

"Adam" > wrote in message
...
> Thanks CapFusion. I now have plenty of information to get started with.
> What did folks ever do before this newsgroup? Other than kill fish that
> is...:-)
>
> Ed
>
Aaah.... Try to follow the foot step of Darwin and see how he observe
critter. Or be a "mad scientist". Heehe.

CapFusion,...