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Timothy Tom
November 9th 03, 11:28 PM
I read the recent post regarding Mr. 4000 and the possibility of
salt/evaporation problems causing him grief. I have never noticed any
problems from evaporation or salt in my home from my 150 gallon tank.
Has anyone else had a problem with larger tanks?
Marc Levenson
November 9th 03, 11:47 PM
I don't, but I do feel the humidity from two tanks in one room. Try 4000g and
you can imagine the moisture in the air!
Marc
Timothy Tom wrote:
> I read the recent post regarding Mr. 4000 and the possibility of
> salt/evaporation problems causing him grief. I have never noticed any
> problems from evaporation or salt in my home from my 150 gallon tank.
> Has anyone else had a problem with larger tanks?
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rtk
November 10th 03, 12:00 AM
Timothy Tom wrote:
> I read the recent post regarding Mr. 4000 and the possibility of
> salt/evaporation problems causing him grief. I have never noticed any
> problems from evaporation or salt in my home from my 150 gallon tank.
> Has anyone else had a problem with larger tanks?
Yes, I have. I have 6 tanks, three of them uncovered by glass because
they are for frogs, toads, and turtles, the other three covered, about
350 gallons all totalled. The humidity coats all windows in this
weather so I have a humidistat fan in the attic and I leave the closet
door and attic open to take care of the dampness. Unfortunately I
didn't realize I should close the basement door because the gas furnace
couldn't pull in enough air when the fan was pulling the same air in the
other direction. It cost quite a bit in unnecessary professional
attention before we all understood the problem. So now it's open
basement door and closed attic during the day and closed basement door
and open attic at night. Now the humidity is manageable.
Ruth Kazez
Herb Leong
November 10th 03, 02:45 AM
In article >,
Timothy Tom > wrote:
#I read the recent post regarding Mr. 4000 and the possibility of
#salt/evaporation problems causing him grief. I have never noticed any
#problems from evaporation or salt in my home from my 150 gallon tank.
#Has anyone else had a problem with larger tanks?
I use a dehumidifier from Sears to keep moisture down. Does anyone else
use one? For grins, my wife tested the water in the collection bin and
it was *very* high in ammonia and the Ph was high as well. Must be
in the air from breathing.
/herb
Dragon Slayer
November 10th 03, 03:57 AM
cant say its got anything to do with the salt, but the evaporation of my
tanks has caused the sheetrock to bubble up behind the stand on a few
occasions.
with 4000 gallon i'd assume he has/had lots of problems with structural
damage to the house from the humidity.
with all my tanks I have about 700 gallon of total water volume and aprox 10
gallon of daily evaporation. my drain on the a/c looks more like a hose
with the faucet turned on when its running.
kc
~Vicki ~
November 10th 03, 06:21 PM
The only time we have any issues with high evaporation is summer with
central air and winter with the wood stove. But I don't mind it to much
because both systems dry out the air so much that we needed to run a
humidifier till we added more fish tanks in the house. I monitor four
tanks daily and add water as needed. But then it is not much of a choir
because I love to do it anyways. Plants need pruning, algae wiped off
glass and so on.
Vicki
I read the recent post regarding Mr. 4000 and the possibility of
salt/evaporation problems causing him grief. I have never noticed any
problems from evaporation or salt in my home from my 150 gallon tank.
Has anyone else had a problem with larger tanks?
mytoysdammit
November 11th 03, 08:22 AM
I had a 175 gallon freshwater Amazon tank in my living room for 15years and
the paint peeled off the wall behind it due to humidity. I'm not sure if
rather acid conditions played a part, nor if salt water tanks would've been
less or more destructive.
In our cold Chicago winters the tank provided what felt like needed humidity
and served as a real deterrant to anyone wanting to sack out on the couch.
Something about the sound of the filters and water trickling tended to make
couch sleepers head to the bathroom every couple of hours<g>
"Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
...
> I don't, but I do feel the humidity from two tanks in one room. Try 4000g
and
> you can imagine the moisture in the air!
>
> Marc
>
>
> Timothy Tom wrote:
>
> > I read the recent post regarding Mr. 4000 and the possibility of
> > salt/evaporation problems causing him grief. I have never noticed any
> > problems from evaporation or salt in my home from my 150 gallon tank.
> > Has anyone else had a problem with larger tanks?
>
> --
> Personal Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/oanda/index.html
> Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com
> Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com
>
>
Chris Taylor
November 11th 03, 08:43 AM
""""I'm not sure if rather acid conditions played a part, nor if salt water
tanks would've been less or more destructive."""
Shouldn't make a difference really, the humidity would've come from pure
evaporated water, same as marine humidity.
Chris
"mytoysdammit" > wrote in message
link.net...
> I had a 175 gallon freshwater Amazon tank in my living room for 15years
and
> the paint peeled off the wall behind it due to humidity. I'm not sure if
> rather acid conditions played a part, nor if salt water tanks would've
been
> less or more destructive.
>
> In our cold Chicago winters the tank provided what felt like needed
humidity
> and served as a real deterrant to anyone wanting to sack out on the couch.
> Something about the sound of the filters and water trickling tended to
make
> couch sleepers head to the bathroom every couple of hours<g>
> "Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I don't, but I do feel the humidity from two tanks in one room. Try
4000g
> and
> > you can imagine the moisture in the air!
> >
> > Marc
> >
> >
> > Timothy Tom wrote:
> >
> > > I read the recent post regarding Mr. 4000 and the possibility of
> > > salt/evaporation problems causing him grief. I have never noticed any
> > > problems from evaporation or salt in my home from my 150 gallon tank.
> > > Has anyone else had a problem with larger tanks?
> >
> > --
> > Personal Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/oanda/index.html
> > Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com
> > Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com
> >
> >
>
>
rtk
November 11th 03, 12:51 PM
Tom Burns wrote:
> What you really need is a separate exhaut to the OUTSIDE-NOT THE ATTIC.
> Excessive moisture in the attic will cause other even more serious
> problems. Your attic should have a thermostatically controlled exhaust
> fan. For the basement, you also need to provide comubustion air for the
> furnace so it doesn't draw inside air to heat, AND VERY IMPORTANTLY DOES
> NOT CAUSE EXHAUST BACKFLOW INTO THE HOUSE! THIS COULD BE FATAL!!!!
> Simple cure is to close the doors to the basement an open a basement
> window just a crack all year round.
>
> Please be carefull!
>
I also turned off the exhaust. I lose 4 gallons of water per day from
the tanks. That isn't all that terrible. Although the windows are
misted over for a little while in the morning, I don't think there's
real damage. Usually, houses around here suffer from excessive dryness
during the winter, so maybe it's even a good thing. Shouldn't the
installers of the gas system have understood the problem when the
furnace wouldn't work? They saw the downdraft from the chimney and
assumed it was clogged, for which we paid another pro to come out and
tell us it was clean.
Thank you again.
Ruth Kazez
rtk
November 11th 03, 01:02 PM
Tom Burns wrote:
>>
> What you really need is a separate exhaut to the OUTSIDE-NOT THE ATTIC.
> Excessive moisture in the attic will cause other even more serious
> problems. Your attic should have a thermostatically controlled exhaust
> fan. For the basement, you also need to provide comubustion air for the
> furnace so it doesn't draw inside air to heat, AND VERY IMPORTANTLY DOES
> NOT CAUSE EXHAUST BACKFLOW INTO THE HOUSE! THIS COULD BE FATAL!!!!
> Simple cure is to close the doors to the basement an open a basement
> window just a crack all year round.
>
> Please be carefull!
Thank you. I should have been more clear. The fan is in the attic and
the air does exhaust to the outside. It is thermostatically controlled,
both for temperature and humidity. I have been closing the basement
door, but it didn't occur to me to open a basement window. As soon as I
sign my name I'm running down and doing that!
Ruth Kazez
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