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Jakaul
November 22nd 03, 03:17 PM
The House voted overwhelmingly Saturday for a bill to outlaw most Internet
spam and create a "do not spam" registry (can't wait to get my hands on that
list) for those who do not wish to receive unsolicited junk e-mail.

This is funny because the government thinks that by creating a law, people
like me will go away. Wrong. I'll just move the business offshore and there
is absolutely nothing they can do or you can do to stop the spam.

I have contracts with Sprint that pay in excess of $12 Million a year. SPAM
is a profitable business and we will continue to make the world of SPAM
profitable until this Gore Internet ceases to exist. That day will never
come.


DaTroll

NomoreRGS
November 22nd 03, 09:26 PM
What will the penalties be for SPAMming someone on the list?


On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 09:17:29 -0600, "Jakaul" > wrote:

>The House voted overwhelmingly Saturday for a bill to outlaw most Internet
>spam and create a "do not spam" registry (can't wait to get my hands on that
>list) for those who do not wish to receive unsolicited junk e-mail.
>
>This is funny because the government thinks that by creating a law, people
>like me will go away. Wrong. I'll just move the business offshore and there
>is absolutely nothing they can do or you can do to stop the spam.
>
>I have contracts with Sprint that pay in excess of $12 Million a year. SPAM
>is a profitable business and we will continue to make the world of SPAM
>profitable until this Gore Internet ceases to exist. That day will never
>come.
>
>
>DaTroll
>

Jakaul
November 23rd 03, 12:29 AM
Who knows and who cares... they won't be able to enforce anything...
businesses like myself will just set up shop outside the US (virtually of
course) and that will be that.


"NomoreRGS" > wrote in message
...
What will the penalties be for SPAMming someone on the list?


On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 09:17:29 -0600, "Jakaul" > wrote:

>The House voted overwhelmingly Saturday for a bill to outlaw most Internet
>spam and create a "do not spam" registry (can't wait to get my hands on
that
>list) for those who do not wish to receive unsolicited junk e-mail.
>
>This is funny because the government thinks that by creating a law, people
>like me will go away. Wrong. I'll just move the business offshore and there
>is absolutely nothing they can do or you can do to stop the spam.
>
>I have contracts with Sprint that pay in excess of $12 Million a year. SPAM
>is a profitable business and we will continue to make the world of SPAM
>profitable until this Gore Internet ceases to exist. That day will never
>come.
>
>
>DaTroll
>

Marco Qualizza
November 24th 03, 08:24 PM
> This is funny because the government thinks that by creating a law, people
> like me will go away. Wrong. I'll just move the business offshore and there
> is absolutely nothing they can do or you can do to stop the spam.

I have to agree with Jakaul (Cybil?) on this one... a do-not-spam registry
is totally meaningless.
1. People have more email address than they do shoes, and changing an
email addy/getting a new one is easier than buying a new pair.
2. *shrug* Prove that the email sent from Africa came from me? If the
fool is running an open relay, he's most probably not got the proper
logging in place. And even if he does, how long does it take to crack
another box, and then route through there? Heck, after cracking someone
wide open, I don't even need to bother routing...

Gotta love useless legislation :-)
- m

Mark Breithaupt
November 25th 03, 12:37 AM
I've had more spam since posting to this group than I have all my life.
Which is why I won't post again.
Later Spam Prix.


"Marco Qualizza" > wrote in message
...
> > This is funny because the government thinks that by creating a law,
people
> > like me will go away. Wrong. I'll just move the business offshore and
there
> > is absolutely nothing they can do or you can do to stop the spam.
>
> I have to agree with Jakaul (Cybil?) on this one... a do-not-spam registry
> is totally meaningless.
> 1. People have more email address than they do shoes, and changing an
> email addy/getting a new one is easier than buying a new pair.
> 2. *shrug* Prove that the email sent from Africa came from me? If the
> fool is running an open relay, he's most probably not got the proper
> logging in place. And even if he does, how long does it take to crack
> another box, and then route through there? Heck, after cracking someone
> wide open, I don't even need to bother routing...
>
> Gotta love useless legislation :-)
> - m

Kim Ross
November 25th 03, 02:33 AM
LOL. You are a moron for even posting to usenet with a valid email address.

Don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.... retarded
cocksucker.

"Mark Breithaupt" > wrote in message
...
I've had more spam since posting to this group than I have all my life.
Which is why I won't post again.
Later Spam Prix.


"Marco Qualizza" > wrote in message
...
> > This is funny because the government thinks that by creating a law,
people
> > like me will go away. Wrong. I'll just move the business offshore and
there
> > is absolutely nothing they can do or you can do to stop the spam.
>
> I have to agree with Jakaul (Cybil?) on this one... a do-not-spam registry
> is totally meaningless.
> 1. People have more email address than they do shoes, and changing an
> email addy/getting a new one is easier than buying a new pair.
> 2. *shrug* Prove that the email sent from Africa came from me? If the
> fool is running an open relay, he's most probably not got the proper
> logging in place. And even if he does, how long does it take to crack
> another box, and then route through there? Heck, after cracking someone
> wide open, I don't even need to bother routing...
>
> Gotta love useless legislation :-)
> - m

RedForeman ©®
November 25th 03, 04:31 PM
> I have contracts with Sprint that pay in excess of $12 Million a year.
SPAM
> is a profitable business and we will continue to make the world of SPAM
> profitable until this Gore Internet ceases to exist. That day will never
> come.

You mean Gore didn't invent the internet??? wow... what a shock

--

RedForeman ©®

Kim Ross
November 25th 03, 11:29 PM
Your ©® on your name makes you look like a total retard, but of course, we
already knew you were a redneck so, retard is obvious too.


"RedForeman ©®" > wrote in message
...
> I have contracts with Sprint that pay in excess of $12 Million a year.
SPAM
> is a profitable business and we will continue to make the world of SPAM
> profitable until this Gore Internet ceases to exist. That day will never
> come.

You mean Gore didn't invent the internet??? wow... what a shock

--

RedForeman ©®

RedForeman ©®
November 26th 03, 03:06 PM
Why thank you Troll sir/ma'am... I take that as a total compliment.

Redneck I am, so what? Why waste your oh so valuable time on a redneck loser
like me? Am I special? Am I honored? Maybe you like rednecks and just
haven't found the right one.... Keep searchin' maybe you'll find your
redneck bimbo out there somewhere...
--

RedForeman ©®
daTrolls "much beter looking" alter ego


"Kim Ross" > wrote in message
news:RBRwb.52513$xV6.4633@lakeread04...
> Your ©® on your name makes you look like a total retard, but of course, we
> already knew you were a redneck so, retard is obvious too.
>
>
> "RedForeman ©®" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I have contracts with Sprint that pay in excess of $12 Million a year.
> SPAM
> > is a profitable business and we will continue to make the world of SPAM
> > profitable until this Gore Internet ceases to exist. That day will never
> > come.
>
> You mean Gore didn't invent the internet??? wow... what a shock
>
> --
>
> RedForeman ©®
>
>
>
>

Jamie Rays
November 26th 03, 06:11 PM
Posting these messages from supernews.com is a violation of your TOS. Won't
you be ****ed to get your news account suspended? Why don't you do me a
favor, doctor... go pick up that book from Barnes and Noble and read it.

I should post the email that you sent to my abuse account about a month
ago... you are an idiot and try to be smart in this group when in reality,
you are a DF moron. Go back to setting up your fish tank in your office and
leave the trolling to me.

BTW, checked your credit bureau lately?

DaTroll


"RedForeman ©®" > wrote in message
...
Why thank you Troll sir/ma'am... I take that as a total compliment.

Redneck I am, so what? Why waste your oh so valuable time on a redneck loser
like me? Am I special? Am I honored? Maybe you like rednecks and just
haven't found the right one.... Keep searchin' maybe you'll find your
redneck bimbo out there somewhere...
--

RedForeman ©®
daTrolls "much beter looking" alter ego


"Kim Ross" > wrote in message
news:RBRwb.52513$xV6.4633@lakeread04...
> Your ©® on your name makes you look like a total retard, but of course, we
> already knew you were a redneck so, retard is obvious too.
>
>
> "RedForeman ©®" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I have contracts with Sprint that pay in excess of $12 Million a year.
> SPAM
> > is a profitable business and we will continue to make the world of SPAM
> > profitable until this Gore Internet ceases to exist. That day will never
> > come.
>
> You mean Gore didn't invent the internet??? wow... what a shock
>
> --
>
> RedForeman ©®
>
>
>
>

Dave
November 27th 03, 01:55 PM
"RedForeman ©®" > wrote in message
...
> > I have contracts with Sprint that pay in excess of $12 Million a year.
> SPAM
> > is a profitable business and we will continue to make the world of SPAM
> > profitable until this Gore Internet ceases to exist. That day will never
> > come.
>
> You mean Gore didn't invent the internet??? wow... what a shock

http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.htm

Jamie Rays
November 27th 03, 03:10 PM
Wow... we have someone in the group that has some wits about them. I am
impressed, but that isn't too hard in here.



"Dave" > wrote in message
...

"RedForeman ©®" > wrote in message
...
> > I have contracts with Sprint that pay in excess of $12 Million a year.
> SPAM
> > is a profitable business and we will continue to make the world of SPAM
> > profitable until this Gore Internet ceases to exist. That day will never
> > come.
>
> You mean Gore didn't invent the internet??? wow... what a shock

http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.htm

Dave
November 29th 03, 06:03 PM
> This is funny because the government thinks that by creating a law, people
> like me will go away. Wrong. I'll just move the business offshore and
there
> is absolutely nothing they can do or you can do to stop the spam.

Watch as I delve into my nifty filter "toolbox" ....

Blacklist: *.*
Whitelist: *.us

Tah dah.

Bob Reath
November 29th 03, 06:52 PM
I think you are confused as to what I was referring to, Dave@spamcop. The
business will be nested off shore and all proceeds will be in offshore bank
accounts. All spamming will be done remotely via ssh etc, but probably from
within the US. The mail would originate from outside the US (which your
filters would probably reject if you set up your mail server to reject
everything but mail from the US. BTW, little bit harder than what you are
suggesting especially since not everyone uses rdns.) but once they hit
compromised anonymous smtp relays in the US, the mail would be molested in a
way that no one would be able to filter out the message unless they set up
explicit whitelist/blacklist mail account filters. That's the only way you
can stop the type of spam that I send out.

Which (btw) I think is the best way to fight SPAM period. Multiple aliases
with forwarding and filtering is the best option to fight SPAM. If an alias
is compromised (i.e. you start getting spam) you kill it. Police the SPAM
yourself not by creating a law that will do nothing but waste your tax
dollars. Otherwise the government would need to do the same thing in regards
to spam in your snailmail boxes as well and I promise you that US Postal
Service wouldn't ever stop people from spamming your snailmail. Why? It
would cost the government BILLIONS in lost revenue by not processing the
spam in your snailmail box.

The government wants to police something they have no control over only so
that they can began to charge a fee or tax for this service that is FREE
today.

I have a lobbyist that works for me in Washington, D.C. for this reason.

There's more to come of all of this and I promise, when you start hearing
about all of this on the CBS Evening News with Dan Rather, I am sure that
you will see an interview with yours truly and then and only then will you
all know... DaTroll

I'll be sure to drop DaTroll line when the time is right just so you know
yours truly isn't full of ****.

DaTroll


"Dave" > wrote in message
...
> This is funny because the government thinks that by creating a law, people
> like me will go away. Wrong. I'll just move the business offshore and
there
> is absolutely nothing they can do or you can do to stop the spam.

Watch as I delve into my nifty filter "toolbox" ....

Blacklist: *.*
Whitelist: *.us

Tah dah.

RedForeman ©®
December 1st 03, 07:15 PM
sar·casm (särkzm)
n.
1.. A cutting, often ironic remark intended to wound.
2.. A form of wit that is marked by the use of sarcastic language and is
intended to make its victim the butt of contempt or ridicule.
3.. The use of sarcasm. See Synonyms at wit1.

--

RedForeman ©®

"Dave" > wrote in message
...
>
> "RedForeman ©®" > wrote in message
> ...
> > > I have contracts with Sprint that pay in excess of $12 Million a year.
> > SPAM
> > > is a profitable business and we will continue to make the world of
SPAM
> > > profitable until this Gore Internet ceases to exist. That day will
never
> > > come.
> >
> > You mean Gore didn't invent the internet??? wow... what a shock
>
> http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.htm
>
>

RedForeman ©®
December 1st 03, 07:21 PM
Violating a TOS, hilarious... suspended?? even MORE hilarious....

that's funny, supernews, teranews, google, whocares... I got 'em all... and
they can't be taken away... atleast not by a loser like you... btw, what
was that book you were suggesting????

it's obvious that my torpedos hit close to home, next time, they'll only hit
closer... now I know who to talk to, and how to go over your head.... How do
you do your job and be a troll all at the same time????

I'm sure the SysAdmin that I talked to last month still remembers me... We
did only have a few drinks, but I'm sure I can jog his/her memory...

You illustrate your abilities, but come up short on your info.... keep
digging... one of these days you'll figure out that, I'm not who you think I
am, nor am I someone you can easily 'learn' or 'search' about... but by all
means, keep trying... Here's a few choices to try

Babs
Cydar
AlLiNaDaYsWoRk
Stooper
Jorgus
and a few othes I've used...

btw, my credit score is way higher than yours, na-na-na-na-na-naaaa-naaa!!!!
850ish or something...
--

RedForeman ©®

"Jamie Rays" > wrote in message
news:q16xb.53065$xV6.9779@lakeread04...
> Posting these messages from supernews.com is a violation of your TOS.
Won't
> you be ****ed to get your news account suspended? Why don't you do me a
> favor, doctor... go pick up that book from Barnes and Noble and read it.
>
> I should post the email that you sent to my abuse account about a month
> ago... you are an idiot and try to be smart in this group when in
reality,
> you are a DF moron. Go back to setting up your fish tank in your office
and
> leave the trolling to me.
>
> BTW, checked your credit bureau lately?
>
> DaTroll
>
>
> "RedForeman ©®" > wrote in message
> ...
> Why thank you Troll sir/ma'am... I take that as a total compliment.
>
> Redneck I am, so what? Why waste your oh so valuable time on a redneck
loser
> like me? Am I special? Am I honored? Maybe you like rednecks and just
> haven't found the right one.... Keep searchin' maybe you'll find your
> redneck bimbo out there somewhere...
> --
>
> RedForeman ©®
> daTrolls "much beter looking" alter ego
>
>
> "Kim Ross" > wrote in message
> news:RBRwb.52513$xV6.4633@lakeread04...
> > Your ©® on your name makes you look like a total retard, but of course,
we
> > already knew you were a redneck so, retard is obvious too.
> >
> >
> > "RedForeman ©®" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > I have contracts with Sprint that pay in excess of $12 Million a year.
> > SPAM
> > > is a profitable business and we will continue to make the world of
SPAM
> > > profitable until this Gore Internet ceases to exist. That day will
never
> > > come.
> >
> > You mean Gore didn't invent the internet??? wow... what a shock
> >
> > --
> >
> > RedForeman ©®
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

Lisa
December 1st 03, 07:50 PM
You really need to get a clue. Remember, you emailed abuse. I am abuse,
administrator, any alias you can contact. I know everything about you, but
who cares? Now you are a troll. Troll.


"RedForeman ©®" > wrote in message
...
Violating a TOS, hilarious... suspended?? even MORE hilarious....

that's funny, supernews, teranews, google, whocares... I got 'em all... and
they can't be taken away... atleast not by a loser like you... btw, what
was that book you were suggesting????

it's obvious that my torpedos hit close to home, next time, they'll only hit
closer... now I know who to talk to, and how to go over your head.... How do
you do your job and be a troll all at the same time????

I'm sure the SysAdmin that I talked to last month still remembers me... We
did only have a few drinks, but I'm sure I can jog his/her memory...

You illustrate your abilities, but come up short on your info.... keep
digging... one of these days you'll figure out that, I'm not who you think I
am, nor am I someone you can easily 'learn' or 'search' about... but by all
means, keep trying... Here's a few choices to try

Babs
Cydar
AlLiNaDaYsWoRk
Stooper
Jorgus
and a few othes I've used...

btw, my credit score is way higher than yours, na-na-na-na-na-naaaa-naaa!!!!
850ish or something...
--

RedForeman ©®

"Jamie Rays" > wrote in message
news:q16xb.53065$xV6.9779@lakeread04...
> Posting these messages from supernews.com is a violation of your TOS.
Won't
> you be ****ed to get your news account suspended? Why don't you do me a
> favor, doctor... go pick up that book from Barnes and Noble and read it.
>
> I should post the email that you sent to my abuse account about a month
> ago... you are an idiot and try to be smart in this group when in
reality,
> you are a DF moron. Go back to setting up your fish tank in your office
and
> leave the trolling to me.
>
> BTW, checked your credit bureau lately?
>
> DaTroll
>
>
> "RedForeman ©®" > wrote in message
> ...
> Why thank you Troll sir/ma'am... I take that as a total compliment.
>
> Redneck I am, so what? Why waste your oh so valuable time on a redneck
loser
> like me? Am I special? Am I honored? Maybe you like rednecks and just
> haven't found the right one.... Keep searchin' maybe you'll find your
> redneck bimbo out there somewhere...
> --
>
> RedForeman ©®
> daTrolls "much beter looking" alter ego
>
>
> "Kim Ross" > wrote in message
> news:RBRwb.52513$xV6.4633@lakeread04...
> > Your ©® on your name makes you look like a total retard, but of course,
we
> > already knew you were a redneck so, retard is obvious too.
> >
> >
> > "RedForeman ©®" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > I have contracts with Sprint that pay in excess of $12 Million a year.
> > SPAM
> > > is a profitable business and we will continue to make the world of
SPAM
> > > profitable until this Gore Internet ceases to exist. That day will
never
> > > come.
> >
> > You mean Gore didn't invent the internet??? wow... what a shock
> >
> > --
> >
> > RedForeman ©®
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

RedForeman ©®
December 1st 03, 08:03 PM
Good, now I know who to talk to, and how to get over your head.... that was
easy...

Not only did I already know who you are, I have had fun playing... You are
good though, I'll give you that.. The best troll is one who can't get in
trouble for it, or can atleast intercept the complaints that come in...
That's pretty cool....

good luck though... Cox is laying off, and last I heard, Rich is on a pink
slip spree!!!

--

RedForeman ©®





"Lisa" > wrote in message
news:YXMyb.74154$xV6.3110@lakeread04...
> You really need to get a clue. Remember, you emailed abuse. I am abuse,
> administrator, any alias you can contact. I know everything about you, but
> who cares? Now you are a troll. Troll.
>
>
> "RedForeman ©®" > wrote in message
> ...
> Violating a TOS, hilarious... suspended?? even MORE hilarious....
>
> that's funny, supernews, teranews, google, whocares... I got 'em all...
and
> they can't be taken away... atleast not by a loser like you... btw, what
> was that book you were suggesting????
>
> it's obvious that my torpedos hit close to home, next time, they'll only
hit
> closer... now I know who to talk to, and how to go over your head.... How
do
> you do your job and be a troll all at the same time????
>
> I'm sure the SysAdmin that I talked to last month still remembers me... We
> did only have a few drinks, but I'm sure I can jog his/her memory...
>
> You illustrate your abilities, but come up short on your info.... keep
> digging... one of these days you'll figure out that, I'm not who you think
I
> am, nor am I someone you can easily 'learn' or 'search' about... but by
all
> means, keep trying... Here's a few choices to try
>
> Babs
> Cydar
> AlLiNaDaYsWoRk
> Stooper
> Jorgus
> and a few othes I've used...
>
> btw, my credit score is way higher than yours,
na-na-na-na-na-naaaa-naaa!!!!
> 850ish or something...
> --
>
> RedForeman ©®
>
> "Jamie Rays" > wrote in message
> news:q16xb.53065$xV6.9779@lakeread04...
> > Posting these messages from supernews.com is a violation of your TOS.
> Won't
> > you be ****ed to get your news account suspended? Why don't you do me a
> > favor, doctor... go pick up that book from Barnes and Noble and read it.
> >
> > I should post the email that you sent to my abuse account about a month
> > ago... you are an idiot and try to be smart in this group when in
> reality,
> > you are a DF moron. Go back to setting up your fish tank in your office
> and
> > leave the trolling to me.
> >
> > BTW, checked your credit bureau lately?
> >
> > DaTroll
> >
> >
> > "RedForeman ©®" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > Why thank you Troll sir/ma'am... I take that as a total compliment.
> >
> > Redneck I am, so what? Why waste your oh so valuable time on a redneck
> loser
> > like me? Am I special? Am I honored? Maybe you like rednecks and just
> > haven't found the right one.... Keep searchin' maybe you'll find your
> > redneck bimbo out there somewhere...
> > --
> >
> > RedForeman ©®
> > daTrolls "much beter looking" alter ego
> >
> >
> > "Kim Ross" > wrote in message
> > news:RBRwb.52513$xV6.4633@lakeread04...
> > > Your ©® on your name makes you look like a total retard, but of
course,
> we
> > > already knew you were a redneck so, retard is obvious too.
> > >
> > >
> > > "RedForeman ©®" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > I have contracts with Sprint that pay in excess of $12 Million a
year.
> > > SPAM
> > > > is a profitable business and we will continue to make the world of
> SPAM
> > > > profitable until this Gore Internet ceases to exist. That day will
> never
> > > > come.
> > >
> > > You mean Gore didn't invent the internet??? wow... what a shock
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > RedForeman ©®
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>