Sick Dutch Ram

[Gill Passman]

Hi,

As per previous posts I bought 3 Dutch Rams around 2 weeks ago (one
male/two females). A couple of days after buying them one of the females
died. Now the remaining female does not appear to be at all well. She is
very quiet and didn't feed this morning or properly yesterday (she had
been eating with gusto). Gill movement is very rapid but there are no
outward signs of any infections nor any evidence of any bullying going
on (at least not during the day).

Tank is 15UK galls and very heavily planted with bogwood.
Ammonia is 0, Nitrite 0, Nitrate 0 and pH 8 - the same as they have at
the LFS and they do acclimatize them prior to sale.

Other tank mates are:-

2 Dwarf Gouramis
5 Rummy Nose Tetras

The only thing I can think of is to do a water change - I could try
putting her in a QT tank but last time I did that to a suspect Ram it
died almost instantly....

Any suggestions greatly appreciated

Gill

[Ali Day]

"Gill Passman" > wrote in message
.. .
> Hi,
>
> As per previous posts I bought 3 Dutch Rams around 2 weeks ago (one
> male/two females). A couple of days after buying them one of the females
> died. Now the remaining female does not appear to be at all well. She is
> very quiet and didn't feed this morning or properly yesterday (she had
> been eating with gusto). Gill movement is very rapid but there are no
> outward signs of any infections nor any evidence of any bullying going on
> (at least not during the day).
>
> Tank is 15UK galls and very heavily planted with bogwood.
> Ammonia is 0, Nitrite 0, Nitrate 0 and pH 8

I'm no expert and there are so many names for Rams I lose track, Dutch
sometimes Holland, German, Bolivian, etc.
Is yours Mikrogeophagus ramirezi if so I would suggust the PH is too high, I
have Ram's and Rummy nosed's in my tank amongst other things and the max I
thought for these fish would be around 7.5

And for amazonian fish its a suprise to see an LFS to have such a high PH.

Cheers

A

[Gill Passman]

Ali Day wrote:
> "Gill Passman" > wrote in message
> .. .
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>As per previous posts I bought 3 Dutch Rams around 2 weeks ago (one
>>male/two females). A couple of days after buying them one of the females
>>died. Now the remaining female does not appear to be at all well. She is
>>very quiet and didn't feed this morning or properly yesterday (she had
>>been eating with gusto). Gill movement is very rapid but there are no
>>outward signs of any infections nor any evidence of any bullying going on
>>(at least not during the day).
>>
>>Tank is 15UK galls and very heavily planted with bogwood.
>>Ammonia is 0, Nitrite 0, Nitrate 0 and pH 8
>
>
> I'm no expert and there are so many names for Rams I lose track, Dutch
> sometimes Holland, German, Bolivian, etc.
> Is yours Mikrogeophagus ramirezi if so I would suggust the PH is too high, I
> have Ram's and Rummy nosed's in my tank amongst other things and the max I
> thought for these fish would be around 7.5
>
> And for amazonian fish its a suprise to see an LFS to have such a high PH.
>
> Cheers
>
> A
>
>
Sadly I lost her this morning :-(

I think it is the pH but LFS believes it might have been some sort of
gill parasite and gave me a credit note so who am I to argue

Thanks for the reply
Gill

BTW I agree with you on the names - way too confusing.

[Ali Day]

> Sadly I lost her this morning :-(

Sorry to hear that