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[Priscilla McCullough]

Saturday I was catching one of my cream color Koi and it got its fin
underneath caught in the net. I think it wedge it down in there from all the
flopping it was doing in the net. This is the first time I had that happen.
I tried to pull the net off it but it wasn't coming. The Koi was beginning
to get really stressed. I transfered the Koi to my bigger pond and tried to
pull off the net. That net was NOT coming off unless I did damage to the
Koi. I ran in the house and got a pair of scissors and cut a circle around
the fin. The net is just hanging there. Will the net disingrate in time or
is it going to cause the Koi problems?
Its still eating and looks fine.
Thanks

[~Roy]

Don't know what the net is made out of but if its any synthetic
material (nylon,m polyester , dacron etc) it may not rot or
disintegrate. A lot of nets sold are totally unsuitable for moving
koi for just this reason...... The Japanese sock nets are good, and
will not snag a fin, but are pretty pricey. Try and find a net that
does not have small fibers that are not woven tightly, as its these
small fibers that tend to snarl up in the edges of the fins.....I
would try and net the fish once again and remove that piece of net if
by chance it has not gotten free of it. Its possible depending on the
size left attached to the koi that it could get snagged on somethng
else as well. Since I can not afford a high quality Jap sock net, I
have been usuing a fairly open weave monofiliment net (not the best
net choice) but it doesnot snag the fish like the Pyton and other
nets I have that were supposedly so good. LOts of luck in removing
the net remnant.....



On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 07:01:08 -0400, "Priscilla McCullough"
> wrote:

>===<> Saturday I was catching one of my cream color Koi and it got its fin
>===<>underneath caught in the net. I think it wedge it down in there from all the
>===<>flopping it was doing in the net. This is the first time I had that happen.
>===<>I tried to pull the net off it but it wasn't coming. The Koi was beginning
>===<>to get really stressed. I transfered the Koi to my bigger pond and tried to
>===<>pull off the net. That net was NOT coming off unless I did damage to the
>===<>Koi. I ran in the house and got a pair of scissors and cut a circle around
>===<>the fin. The net is just hanging there. Will the net disingrate in time or
>===<>is it going to cause the Koi problems?
>===<>Its still eating and looks fine.
>===<>Thanks
>===<>


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[Derek Broughton]

Priscilla McCullough wrote:

> Saturday I was catching one of my cream color Koi and it got its fin
> underneath caught in the net. I think it wedge it down in there from all
> the flopping it was doing in the net.

As you've learned, it's best to avoid nets. With smaller fish, what I
usually do is use a 2 liter clear pop bottle with the top cut off, and herd
the fish into it with the net. Obviously with a good sized koi, that's not
an option, but I'd still devising some kind of "trap" to catch them in.

> Will the net
> disingrate in time or is it going to cause the Koi problems?

It probably won't disintegrate since they're usually a single piece of
nylon. Keep an eye on it, and if it shows no sign of coming off in the
near future, you'll need to remove it. It's not likely to cause immediate
problems, but it will cut into the flesh as the fish grows.
--
derek

[Reel Mckoi]

"Priscilla McCullough" > wrote in message
...
> Saturday I was catching one of my cream color Koi and it got its fin
> underneath caught in the net. I think it wedge it down in there from all
> the flopping it was doing in the net. This is the first time I had that
> happen. I tried to pull the net off it but it wasn't coming.

## I think many of us have had something like this happen. The next time
you can gently squeeze the fin and work it out of the netting. This may not
be easy of the fish is large and panicking. If that doesn't work you can
cut the net in such a way as to slide it off the fin - somewhat like one
would cut a ring that was too small for their finger and can't be removed.
It frees the fish and does the least damage to the net. The new large net
we bought this summer in a sporting goods store works great - not one fin
was caught and we moved many fish around this summer.

The Koi was beginning
> to get really stressed. I transfered the Koi to my bigger pond and tried
> to pull off the net. That net was NOT coming off unless I did damage to
> the Koi.

## The sharp point of a cuticle scissors should work. Get the tip between
the net and the fin... and snip!

I ran in the house and got a pair of scissors and cut a circle around
> the fin. The net is just hanging there. Will the net disingrate in time or
> is it going to cause the Koi problems?

## Since they don't use cotton anymore to make nets it's not likely to
disintegrate. It may get caught on something in the pond and do more damage
when the fish panics.

> Its still eating and looks fine.
> Thanks
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[Priscilla McCullough]

Wow, thanks for the replies. I don't see how I'm going to catch that Koi
now. The pond is 15x15 and 4ft deep.
Its going to be near impossible.
Priss
"Reel Mckoi" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Priscilla McCullough" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Saturday I was catching one of my cream color Koi and it got its fin
>> underneath caught in the net. I think it wedge it down in there from all
>> the flopping it was doing in the net. This is the first time I had that
>> happen. I tried to pull the net off it but it wasn't coming.
>
> ## I think many of us have had something like this happen. The next time
> you can gently squeeze the fin and work it out of the netting. This may
> not be easy of the fish is large and panicking. If that doesn't work you
> can cut the net in such a way as to slide it off the fin - somewhat like
> one would cut a ring that was too small for their finger and can't be
> removed. It frees the fish and does the least damage to the net. The new
> large net we bought this summer in a sporting goods store works great -
> not one fin was caught and we moved many fish around this summer.
>
> The Koi was beginning
>> to get really stressed. I transfered the Koi to my bigger pond and tried
>> to pull off the net. That net was NOT coming off unless I did damage to
>> the Koi.
>
> ## The sharp point of a cuticle scissors should work. Get the tip between
> the net and the fin... and snip!
>
> I ran in the house and got a pair of scissors and cut a circle around
>> the fin. The net is just hanging there. Will the net disingrate in time
>> or is it going to cause the Koi problems?
>
> ## Since they don't use cotton anymore to make nets it's not likely to
> disintegrate. It may get caught on something in the pond and do more
> damage when the fish panics.
>
>> Its still eating and looks fine.
>> Thanks
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[Reel Mckoi]

"Priscilla McCullough" > wrote in message
...
> Wow, thanks for the replies. I don't see how I'm going to catch that Koi
> now. The pond is 15x15 and 4ft deep.
> Its going to be near impossible.
==========================
Have you considered using a seine net after draining the pond down some?
You can find them at any sporting goods store.
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[~ jan jjspond]

>Wow, thanks for the replies. I don't see how I'm going to catch that Koi
>now. The pond is 15x15 and 4ft deep.
>Its going to be near impossible.
>Priss

Many people in this situation drain the pond down, and get in the pond.
Nets are used to catch tiny fish in pet shops. For our pond fish, nets are
used to herd them into large bowls, or as Roy mentioned, use a koi sock.

I got my koi sock from a fellow ponder who likes to upgrade, but can't keep
the old equipment so he sells it cheap. It was a cheaper priced one to
begin with, but after using and/or seeing how the others are used, I'm a
lot happier with my cheaper version, that lets the water drain out quickly.
I think it is priced around $30-35. I've found the bigger the fish, the
easier to deal with. ~ jan

[~Roy]

I have two black moors (named Hoover and Eureka) that are just as
friendly as can be. I relocated them from the 90 gal tank inside to
the outside yesterday. They are about as big as a softball. All I had
to do was put the net in the tank, and the both fish tried to get into
it at the same time........I actually had to fight with them so I
could only get one in the net at a time. Too bad all fish are not that
way...........I can place both hands in the tank and make a circle
with my thumbs and fingers and they will swim up in side and lay on
my hand. They like their bellies rubbed as well... We named them
Hoover and Eureka as they are like big vaccum cleaners. Seems most
times however once they get into a large pond they soon learn other
habits. These two were about the size of a marble when we got them,
and they are as spoiled as the dogs are........

On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 15:33:54 -0700, ~ jan jjspond
> wrote:

>===<>>Wow, thanks for the replies. I don't see how I'm going to catch that Koi
>===<>>now. The pond is 15x15 and 4ft deep.
>===<>>Its going to be near impossible.
>===<>>Priss
>===<>
>===<>Many people in this situation drain the pond down, and get in the pond.
>===<>Nets are used to catch tiny fish in pet shops. For our pond fish, nets are
>===<>used to herd them into large bowls, or as Roy mentioned, use a koi sock.
>===<>
>===<>I got my koi sock from a fellow ponder who likes to upgrade, but can't keep
>===<>the old equipment so he sells it cheap. It was a cheaper priced one to
>===<>begin with, but after using and/or seeing how the others are used, I'm a
>===<>lot happier with my cheaper version, that lets the water drain out quickly.
>===<>I think it is priced around $30-35. I've found the bigger the fish, the
>===<>easier to deal with. ~ jan


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