My Heater Keeps Slipping

[chris]

Hi everyone,

I have a problem with my heater. I have one that hangs off the edge of
the tank, but it keeps slipping down too low and I feel like it's gonna
eventually short out and fry my fish. So, I'm looking for suggestions
on fully submersible heaters, as I like the idea of them better anyway.

Thanks,

Chris

[Billy]

"chris" > wrote in message
ps.com...
> Hi everyone,
>
> I have a problem with my heater. I have one that hangs off the
> edge of
> the tank, but it keeps slipping down too low and I feel like it's
> gonna
> eventually short out and fry my fish. So, I'm looking for
> suggestions
> on fully submersible heaters, as I like the idea of them better
> anyway.
>


I'm rather partial to Ebo Jager heaters myself. And, just FYI, I
understand that an exposed heater dropped in tank will not fry the
fish. Someone with more understanding of electrical science can
explain this, I assume.

b

[Dick]

On 11 Oct 2005 20:23:00 -0700, "chris" > wrote:

>Hi everyone,
>
>I have a problem with my heater. I have one that hangs off the edge of
>the tank, but it keeps slipping down too low and I feel like it's gonna
>eventually short out and fry my fish. So, I'm looking for suggestions
>on fully submersible heaters, as I like the idea of them better anyway.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Chris

Until you get the submersible, try cleaning the glass to which the
suction cups are attached. Wipe the suction cups as well. I find
that helps for a few months.

dick

[spiral_72]

See if you can reposition the heater next time you do a water change. I
have found that if you use clean dry suction cups on clean and dry
glass, when you fill the tank back up..... they pretty much weld
themselves to the glass.

But yes, submersible heaters are da' bomb....... However, there's
really no reason to replace a working heater.

[Patricia A. Shaffer]

On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 04:47:52 -0500, Dick >
wrote:

>On 11 Oct 2005 20:23:00 -0700, "chris" > wrote:
>
>>Hi everyone,
>>
>>I have a problem with my heater. I have one that hangs off the edge of
>>the tank, but it keeps slipping down too low and I feel like it's gonna
>>eventually short out and fry my fish. So, I'm looking for suggestions
>>on fully submersible heaters, as I like the idea of them better anyway.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Chris
>
>Until you get the submersible, try cleaning the glass to which the
>suction cups are attached. Wipe the suction cups as well. I find
>that helps for a few months.

Believe it or not, a thin dab of vaseline spread on the suction cups
helps to hold them on the clean glass. I, too, am moving to
submersible heaters for my 30+ gallon tanks, but I want to use the
non-submersibles as back-ups and in smaller tanks.


--
Patricia
Proud Citizen of the Commonwealth of Virginia

[George Pontis]

In article m>,
says...
> Hi everyone,
>
> I have a problem with my heater. I have one that hangs off the edge of
> the tank, but it keeps slipping down too low and I feel like it's gonna
> eventually short out and fry my fish. So, I'm looking for suggestions
> on fully submersible heaters, as I like the idea of them better anyway.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chris

Unlikely that your fish would be harmed electrically, it would be more of a risk
to you when you stick your hand in the water. However, these hang on back heaters
tend to be cheaply built and more failure prone than the submersibles, even under
the best of conditions. If you are interested to buy a new heater, my suggestion
is the Hagen Tronic.

For any heater, they will work better if the heating element does not too directly
warm the temperature sensor. You can minimize that problem by locating the heater
in an area of water circulation. For submersibles, you also have the option of
mounting the heater at a 45 degree angle or even horizontally in the tank.

For more information: http://www.netmax.tk/

[Gill Passman]

George Pontis wrote:
> In article m>,
> says...
>
>>Hi everyone,
>>
>>I have a problem with my heater. I have one that hangs off the edge of
>>the tank, but it keeps slipping down too low and I feel like it's gonna
>>eventually short out and fry my fish. So, I'm looking for suggestions
>>on fully submersible heaters, as I like the idea of them better anyway.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Chris
>
>
> Unlikely that your fish would be harmed electrically, it would be more of a risk
> to you when you stick your hand in the water. However, these hang on back heaters
> tend to be cheaply built and more failure prone than the submersibles, even under
> the best of conditions. If you are interested to buy a new heater, my suggestion
> is the Hagen Tronic.
>
> For any heater, they will work better if the heating element does not too directly
> warm the temperature sensor. You can minimize that problem by locating the heater
> in an area of water circulation. For submersibles, you also have the option of
> mounting the heater at a 45 degree angle or even horizontally in the tank.
>
> For more information: http://www.netmax.tk/


Some of my Hagen Tronics are for ever slipping down into the gravel...we
clean the glass and suction pads, stick them back up...wait 5 mins and
hey they are back in the gravel (but only in the planted tanks - doesn't
seem to happen in the Malawi tank).

My small tanks I mount the heater vertically - seems to work better that
way - by this I mean up to 15 UK gall

Just my 2p worth

Gill

[Daniel Morrow]

Bottom posted.


"chris" > wrote in message
ps.com...
> Hi everyone,
>
> I have a problem with my heater. I have one that hangs off the edge of
> the tank, but it keeps slipping down too low and I feel like it's gonna
> eventually short out and fry my fish. So, I'm looking for suggestions
> on fully submersible heaters, as I like the idea of them better anyway.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chris
>

If you decide to get a submersible I would recommend a visi-therm stealth
submersible heater, or next in line a hagen tronic, or next in line one of
those expensive but heavy-duty titanium heaters I have seen talked about in
this very newsgroup. If you stick with your suction cup external heater
don't worry about the fish, the heater should hurt them but watch out for
yourself! Good luck and later!

[chris]

I have a 33g tank, do you think a Hagen Tronic of 200W would be good or
should I get myself one of the 150s? The difference in price on eBay
seems negligible.

Chris

[Daniel Morrow]

Bottom posted.


"chris" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> I have a 33g tank, do you think a Hagen Tronic of 200W would be good or
> should I get myself one of the 150s? The difference in price on eBay
> seems negligible.
>
> Chris
>

I would recommend the 150 if your house, or whatever, is always relatively
comfortable within reason. If your house ever gets down to 55 or so degrees
fahrenheit then I would play it safe and get the 200. Also - I think a 200
would be best with the tronics because they might not be able to be overkill
because they have an accurate heat sensor (thermostat if you will)
supposedly as accurate as a separate probe and the 150 and 200 have the same
length (physically). Good luck and later!