Re: CO2 hoses : how long maximum?

[Iain Miller]

"teizman" > wrote in message
ynet.net...
> hi,
>
> I m thinking about buying a CO2 (automatic) system with a classic CO2
bottle
> from SERA.
>
> Can I use very long hoses for the CO2 bottle ? (So I can put the Co2
bottle
> in the cellar beneath the aquarium (thing this is more safer and more
> discrete) With very long, I mean about 7 or 8 meters (=20ft or a slightly
> more).
>
> Or will this cause some loss or something else?

Main thing is to get the right kind of hose. I don't see why there should be
a limit anywhere near what you want in terms of length. CO2 as a gas is made
up of much smaller molecules than say Nitrogen or Oxygen & therefore will
actually leak through some materials - silicone Airline being the relvant
example. That said, if you are using bottled gas do you really care about a
small amount of leakage of this nature? The only thing I can think of is
that it will be more difficult to set up because the needle valve that
controls the flow will be downstairs attached to the bottle so you could be
doing a bit of running up & down the stairs adjusting the thing till you get
it right (either that or get someone to help & shout a lot!)

I've got a 7lb bottle in the cupboard under my tank & although I am aware
that if it "went off" it could make a bit of a mess I think the chances of
it doing so are somewhat limited....as long as you handle it properly I
wouldn't worry about it too much.

I.

[Matthew Comstock]

>
>
>Main thing is to get the right kind of hose. I don't see why there should be
>a limit anywhere near what you want in terms of length. CO2 as a gas is made
>up of much smaller molecules than say Nitrogen or Oxygen & therefore will
>actually leak through some materials - silicone Airline being the relvant
>example.
>
CO2 molecules are actually quite a bit larger than Oxygen or Nitrogen.
Silicon tubing won't work due to a chemical effect. (it is the makeup of
the molecule, not its size that counts in this case.) Go with the
polyethylene/polypropylene tubing that you can buy at home depot for
icemakers. That won't leak CO2, and you are only limited to 30 yards or
so length. Ought to be enough for you.
-mat

[Ian Smith]

On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 00:04:01 +0200, teizman > wrote:
> hi,
>
> I m thinking about buying a CO2 (automatic) system with a classic CO2 bottle
> from SERA.
>
> Can I use very long hoses for the CO2 bottle ? (So I can put the Co2 bottle
> in the cellar beneath the aquarium (thing this is more safer and more
> discrete) With very long, I mean about 7 or 8 meters (=20ft or a slightly
> more).
>
> Or will this cause some loss or something else?

I have my CO2 cylinder in the next room, with teh hose going through a
hole in teh wall. Due to layout of where I have things, it's about a
6 or 7m length of pipe from cylnder to where it's injected into the
water.

The only issue really is adjustment of flow. The way I deal with that
is to have a bubble counter inline in the pipe near the cylinder, so I
can make flow adjustments and see the effect without walking to and
fro. Otherwise, no problems.

regards, Ian SMith
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[marc]

Make sure you use co2 resistant tubing,
I have it on sale currently

Marcus
Http://www.Aquatic-store.com This weeks sales co2 tanks
Co2 regulator, bubble counter and needle valve $75.20

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On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 00:04:01 +0200, "teizman"
> wrote:


>hi,
>
>I m thinking about buying a CO2 (automatic) system with a classic CO2 bottle
>from SERA.
>
>Can I use very long hoses for the CO2 bottle ? (So I can put the Co2 bottle
>in the cellar beneath the aquarium (thing this is more safer and more
>discrete) With very long, I mean about 7 or 8 meters (=20ft or a slightly
>more).
>
>Or will this cause some loss or something else?
>
>thanx,
>tijs
>