Re: sump

[Marc Levenson]

Use the 20g, or larger. More is better, because you are adding additional water
volume. "Dilution is the Solution to Pollution"
http://www.melevsreef.com/what_sump.html

I'd not use the Rio for a return pump though. Use that to mix sal****er and
pump water in and out of your tank during water changes. I prefer the Supreme
Mag pumps available online & at the LFS.

Marc


Dinky wrote:

> I am making plans to switch my 75 fw over to a reef tank, and I'm currently
> looking at filtration. I have 2 options;
>
> 1: An Eheim Pro 2320.
> Opinions on this unit for a 75 gallon reef?
>
> 2:Sump. I have empy 10 and 20 gallon tanks I can create sumps out of. Would
> the ten work? Too small? I would likely be powering it with a Rio pump,
> about 550gph.
>
> All opinions appreciated.
>
> --
> --------
> Billy
> --------
> I'm not closed-minded.
> You're just wrong.

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[Charles Spitzer]

and on #1, don't use a filter on a reef. use a skimmer in your sump, live
rock in the tank (and perhaps sump) instead.

"Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
...
> Use the 20g, or larger. More is better, because you are adding additional
water
> volume. "Dilution is the Solution to Pollution"
> http://www.melevsreef.com/what_sump.html
>
> I'd not use the Rio for a return pump though. Use that to mix sal****er
and
> pump water in and out of your tank during water changes. I prefer the
Supreme
> Mag pumps available online & at the LFS.
>
> Marc
>
>
> Dinky wrote:
>
> > I am making plans to switch my 75 fw over to a reef tank, and I'm
currently
> > looking at filtration. I have 2 options;
> >
> > 1: An Eheim Pro 2320.
> > Opinions on this unit for a 75 gallon reef?
> >
> > 2:Sump. I have empy 10 and 20 gallon tanks I can create sumps out of.
Would
> > the ten work? Too small? I would likely be powering it with a Rio pump,
> > about 550gph.
> >
> > All opinions appreciated.
> >
> > --
> > --------
> > Billy
> > --------
> > I'm not closed-minded.
> > You're just wrong.
>
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>
>

[Pszemol]

"Marc Levenson" > wrote in message ...
> I prefer the Supreme Mag pumps available online & at the LFS.

Are "Supreme Mag" and "Mag Drive" pumps the same
or maybe the names are only similar for two different things?

And if we are already at Mag pumps - how do they behave with
electronic wavemakers without soft start? Do they start hard
like Penquin pumps or rather nice, like MaxiJets and others?

BTW - I see some screws outside the pump outline - are they
stainless steel? I am rather worried puting any metal in the tank.

[Marc Levenson]

Marine Depot lists them as Supreme Mag Drives:
http://www.marinedepot.com/a_ph_danner.asp?CartId=

Same thing, just referred to slightly differently.

I've never seen or heard of a Mag pump being put on a wavemaker, but I always here that
using Maxijets with one works out great.

I don't know what the screws are made of. I'd assume stainless, but I can't be positive.
If in doubt, buy some stainless ones at Home Depot to swap them out. All my Mags are
submerged and no issues at all.

Marc


Pszemol wrote:

> "Marc Levenson" > wrote in message ...
> > I prefer the Supreme Mag pumps available online & at the LFS.
>
> Are "Supreme Mag" and "Mag Drive" pumps the same
> or maybe the names are only similar for two different things?
>
> And if we are already at Mag pumps - how do they behave with
> electronic wavemakers without soft start? Do they start hard
> like Penquin pumps or rather nice, like MaxiJets and others?
>
> BTW - I see some screws outside the pump outline - are they
> stainless steel? I am rather worried puting any metal in the tank.

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[Charles Spitzer]

filters of any kind (canister, bio balls, foam blocks, etc) are designed to
break down waste products into nitrates. you don't want this to occur in a
reef. if your doing a marine tank, it's ok to use filters.

my sump is a 20 gal rubbermaid tub. lots cheaper, and easier to obtain.

"Dinky" > wrote in message
news:B5vzb.294987$9E1.1499199@attbi_s52...
>
> "Charles Spitzer" > wrote in message
> ...
> > and on #1, don't use a filter on a reef. use a skimmer in your sump,
live
> > rock in the tank (and perhaps sump) instead.
> >
>
>
> Gotcha, no problem, making the sump will be more fun anyway, but can you
> tell my why the canister filter is bad for a reef tank?
>
>

[Pszemol]

The reason I ask about the wavemaker is I would like to put two pumps
in opposite action instead of using SCWD device... If they make noise
when turned on, like Penguins do, I would order only one with SCWD.

Could you please check this for me if you have a chance?
Just observe how do they start when the power is set to on...
Maxijets start noiseless! I believe you have mag 5 and mag 7, right?
Could you test both? I would appreciate your help.

"Marc Levenson" > wrote in message ...
> Marine Depot lists them as Supreme Mag Drives:
> http://www.marinedepot.com/a_ph_danner.asp?CartId=
>
> Same thing, just referred to slightly differently.
>
> I've never seen or heard of a Mag pump being put on a wavemaker, but I always here that
> using Maxijets with one works out great.
>
> I don't know what the screws are made of. I'd assume stainless, but I can't be positive.
> If in doubt, buy some stainless ones at Home Depot to swap them out. All my Mags are
> submerged and no issues at all.
>
> Marc
>
>
> Pszemol wrote:
>
> > "Marc Levenson" > wrote in message ...
> > > I prefer the Supreme Mag pumps available online & at the LFS.
> >
> > Are "Supreme Mag" and "Mag Drive" pumps the same
> > or maybe the names are only similar for two different things?
> >
> > And if we are already at Mag pumps - how do they behave with
> > electronic wavemakers without soft start? Do they start hard
> > like Penquin pumps or rather nice, like MaxiJets and others?
> >
> > BTW - I see some screws outside the pump outline - are they
> > stainless steel? I am rather worried puting any metal in the tank.
>
> --
> Personal Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/oanda/index.html
> Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com
> Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com
>
>

[Dragon Slayer]

IME Mag drive pumps will shear the impeller shaft (its plastic) if switched
on and off constantly like on a wave maker. it breaks at the point it
enters the outer case where the rubber bushing is at. it doesn't stop the
pump, it just makes it very noisy and allows the impeller to wobble, and it
causes wear if not fixed.

hth
kc

"Pszemol" > wrote in message
...
> The reason I ask about the wavemaker is I would like to put two pumps
> in opposite action instead of using SCWD device... If they make noise
> when turned on, like Penguins do, I would order only one with SCWD.
>
> Could you please check this for me if you have a chance?
> Just observe how do they start when the power is set to on...
> Maxijets start noiseless! I believe you have mag 5 and mag 7, right?
> Could you test both? I would appreciate your help.
>
> "Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
...
> > Marine Depot lists them as Supreme Mag Drives:
> > http://www.marinedepot.com/a_ph_danner.asp?CartId=
> >
> > Same thing, just referred to slightly differently.
> >
> > I've never seen or heard of a Mag pump being put on a wavemaker, but I
always here that
> > using Maxijets with one works out great.
> >
> > I don't know what the screws are made of. I'd assume stainless, but I
can't be positive.
> > If in doubt, buy some stainless ones at Home Depot to swap them out.
All my Mags are
> > submerged and no issues at all.
> >
> > Marc
> >
> >
> > Pszemol wrote:
> >
> > > "Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
...
> > > > I prefer the Supreme Mag pumps available online & at the LFS.
> > >
> > > Are "Supreme Mag" and "Mag Drive" pumps the same
> > > or maybe the names are only similar for two different things?
> > >
> > > And if we are already at Mag pumps - how do they behave with
> > > electronic wavemakers without soft start? Do they start hard
> > > like Penquin pumps or rather nice, like MaxiJets and others?
> > >
> > > BTW - I see some screws outside the pump outline - are they
> > > stainless steel? I am rather worried puting any metal in the tank.
> >
> > --
> > Personal Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/oanda/index.html
> > Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com
> > Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com
> >
> >