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JT
December 3rd 03, 04:26 PM
anybody ever use kent's turbo calcium-- is it any better than regular
kalkwasser to dose tank?
tia
Lee
December 4th 03, 02:31 AM
I've used Turbo Calcium to raise my calcium, but learned the hard way
(alkalinity bottomed out) not to use it in place of kalk. I would not use
this on an ongoing basis/replacement for kalk as it takes considerable
effort and water changes to bring the alk back into check once you overdose
the Turbo.
Lee
"JT" > wrote in message
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> anybody ever use kent's turbo calcium-- is it any better than regular
> kalkwasser to dose tank?
> tia
>
Kevin M
December 4th 03, 02:42 AM
"JT" > wrote in message
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| anybody ever use kent's turbo calcium-- is it any better than regular
| kalkwasser to dose tank?
| tia
No, not better. Kalkwasser is a balanced system. Turbo Calcium is just Ca,
no alkalinity.
Kev
Dragon Slayer
December 4th 03, 07:46 AM
I have been chatting things over with Anthony Calfo about his 'slurry'
method of adding kalk to a tank. its considerably less hassle then mixing
and dripping kalk. do a google or look for his articles on wetwebmedia.com
his corals seam to back the fact that it works, and it doesn't get much
simpler unless you go with a Ca reactor.
kc
"JT" > wrote in message
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> anybody ever use kent's turbo calcium-- is it any better than regular
> kalkwasser to dose tank?
> tia
>
Marc Levenson
December 4th 03, 10:57 AM
Share the method with us, KC. As you know, I'm not a fan of Kalk myself.
Marc
Dragon Slayer wrote:
> I have been chatting things over with Anthony Calfo about his 'slurry'
> method of adding kalk to a tank. its considerably less hassle then mixing
> and dripping kalk. do a google or look for his articles on wetwebmedia.com
>
> his corals seam to back the fact that it works, and it doesn't get much
> simpler unless you go with a Ca reactor.
>
> kc
>
> "JT" > wrote in message
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> > anybody ever use kent's turbo calcium-- is it any better than regular
> > kalkwasser to dose tank?
> > tia
> >
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Dragon Slayer
December 4th 03, 07:27 PM
> Share the method with us, KC. As you know, I'm not a fan of Kalk myself.
>
> Marc
well Marc as I understand it (and I've asked Anthony about a hundred
questions regarding it) you do a test of Ca on your system over a 3 day
period and divide the loss of Ca by 3 to get the daily demand of your system
(the longer the wait the more accurate the daily consumption demand will
be). then you start with a minimum amount of kalk (the higher grade the
less impurities that make it to your tank) and just 'slurry' it up in a cup
with ro/di water. add it directly to the sump when its 'slurried' up good
(about a 30 second swirling)
checking PH with a monitor (this is a required item to have) will tell if
your adding to much kalk to the cup of water. don't let the tank spike more
then 0.2 (and this is tested after an hour of circulation, not the initial
spike which on my 75 (100g total) was 0.5 w/ 1/4 tsp of kalk).
then by testing Ca you can see if your adding to much or to little for your
system.
at first it sounded to me like you'd end up with a sump full of kalk
precipitant, but after trying it for a few weeks it really doesn't seam to
do that. strange it is.
Anthony has some very good reading on it and he uses it exclusively in his
business which is a 'green house' full of pools with sps. it seams its tried
and true.
he also said this is the best way to get Ca into a system that dripping kalk
cant keep up with the demand because of not enough evaporation. and he
preferred it over the Ca reactor because of the $$$ it saves and it only
takes about 1 min per day to do it.
hth
kc
Xena Warrior Princess
December 5th 03, 06:19 PM
When you dose turbo calcium you are dosing calcium chloride. So you are
adding chloride to your system. If you don't do regular water changes the
chloride will cause long term harm. This came right out of the Kent
representatives mouth, not my idea.
I do use Turbo Calcium to bring the calcium levels up when they dip too low.
I also use Seachem's reefbuilder to keep the Alk levels up. Kalk drips 24/7
in my tanks to try and keep the Ca and dKh up, but sometimes I have to add
Turbo Ca and reefbuilder (you can't really add just one unless you've added
too much of one prior). Kalk is Calcium Hydroxide which leaves nothing bad
behind and can be used as much as you need as long as you don't goof up your
pH with too much at once.
"JT" > wrote in message
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> anybody ever use kent's turbo calcium-- is it any better than regular
> kalkwasser to dose tank?
> tia
>
Dragon Slayer
December 6th 03, 04:08 AM
> When you dose turbo calcium you are dosing calcium chloride. So you are
> adding chloride to your system. If you don't do regular water changes the
> chloride will cause long term harm. This came right out of the Kent
> representatives mouth, not my idea.
>
thats because if unchecked it will raise the level of salinity in the tank.
chlorides are salts. the water changes are just helping control the
salinity in the tank.
kc
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