Re: Great ideas wanted!

[Haywire]

Don't forget a GFCI circuit since you will have water and power in close
proximity.

"Kudzu" > wrote in
:

> For four years we have been talking about our new house. Now it is
> going to happen. In the next few weeks I will start to finalize and
> draw up the plans. One of the things I am going to have is a tank as a
> divider wall or screen if you will. The plan it have it open on three
> sides (two long sides open) with a custom made stand and hood.
>
> Size is up in the air but most likely a 4 or 5 foot long tank around
> 75 gallons. 6 ft long 120 gallons would be about the max. Nothing is
> decided yet but I am leaning toward a sump with a sand filter inside
> the stand. All the water lines will have to be plumbed up the one
> enclosed end of the tank to remain out of site. I am thinking either
> an overflow box or standpipe on one end of the tank and then just run
> rigid PVC inside the hood to dump the water on the opposite side of
> tank.
>
> Now for some of the ideas I am tossing around and maybe someone has
> done this or will have some suggestions on something I have not
> thought of.
>
> 1. Building the stand with a water proofed pan in the cabinet with a
> built in drain. Since I will be building the stand (I'm a woodworker)
> I am thinking about a shallow plywood box fiberglassed with a shower
> drain that is tied into the plumbing drains. Then overflows or leaks
> are not nearly as big of a problem. (like tonight when the 0 ring in
> my canister let go!)
>
> 2. Hot and cold water inside the stand. Perhaps a laundry sink faucet
> since they have a garden hose thread on the outlet. If I design this
> right I was thinking I could leave my python connected all the time.
> It would make servicing this tank and the others in my house MUCH
> simpler. I had a sink that would not drain fast enough so I attached a
> short garden hose to the sink and laid the python pump in the shower
> floor. The water splattered very little. So I was thinking of the same
> thing in the cabinet.
>
> OK, someone got some other ideas? Or see any flaws I might have
> overlooked?
>
> Kudzu <*\\><
>
>
>
>
>

[Kudzu]

> Don't forget a GFCI circuit since you will have water and power in close

> proximity.

Absolutely! That's just taken for granted. :-)

But that brings up something I had not thought about. I normally just put a

power strip on the floor or shelf of the stand. That won't work with this.

Need to look at mounting it up high in the cabinet to keep it out of the

water.

On second thought I need to divide the cabinet with an interior wall. Make

a dry area for the electric stuff and the food. Had not thought of that!

That simple comment made me see something big I had over looked! Comments

are welcome guys (and gals).

Kudzu <*\\><

[Christina Marie Thompson]

Kudzu,

You sound a lot like me. My dream house will have a river running
through it. I haven't quite figured out how it will work, but I want a
continuous flow of water from one end of the house to the other. I could
have it a floor level and just have bridges at the doorways, and that
would work fine for fish that look pretty from above, like koi. But I
want a mini-Amazon with all South American tropical fish and plants. And
tropicals generally look prettiest from the side, so I have to figure
out how to have an eye-level river and still deal with doorways,
windows, and such.

Oh, well, that's a few years down the road, after I finish nursing
school and spend a few years letting the U.S. Army show me the world,
while I save my pennies. While I'm out and about, I'll have a real
estate agent looking for acreage in the Idaho mountains, then give my
dream over to an architect and see how he pulls it off.

Keep us posted on the process. Links to pictures throughout the
construction will inspire more people like us, I'm sure. And of course,
we want to see pictures when it's done, too.

Good Luck,
Christina

Kudzu wrote:

>For four years we have been talking about our new house. Now it is going to
>happen. In the next few weeks I will start to finalize and draw up the
>plans. One of the things I am going to have is a tank as a divider wall or
>screen if you will. The plan it have it open on three sides (two long sides
>open) with a custom made stand and hood.
>
>Size is up in the air but most likely a 4 or 5 foot long tank around 75
>gallons. 6 ft long 120 gallons would be about the max. Nothing is decided
>yet but I am leaning toward a sump with a sand filter inside the stand. All
>the water lines will have to be plumbed up the one enclosed end of the tank
>to remain out of site. I am thinking either an overflow box or standpipe on
>one end of the tank and then just run rigid PVC inside the hood to dump the
>water on the opposite side of tank.
>
>Now for some of the ideas I am tossing around and maybe someone has done
>this or will have some suggestions on something I have not thought of.
>
>1. Building the stand with a water proofed pan in the cabinet with a built
>in drain. Since I will be building the stand (I'm a woodworker) I am
>thinking about a shallow plywood box fiberglassed with a shower drain that
>is tied into the plumbing drains. Then overflows or leaks are not nearly as
>big of a problem. (like tonight when the 0 ring in my canister let go!)
>
>2. Hot and cold water inside the stand. Perhaps a laundry sink faucet since
>they have a garden hose thread on the outlet. If I design this right I was
>thinking I could leave my python connected all the time. It would make
>servicing this tank and the others in my house MUCH simpler. I had a sink
>that would not drain fast enough so I attached a short garden hose to the
>sink and laid the python pump in the shower floor. The water splattered very
>little. So I was thinking of the same thing in the cabinet.
>
>OK, someone got some other ideas? Or see any flaws I might have overlooked?
>
>Kudzu <*\\><
>
>

--
Though lovers be lost love shall not;
And death shall have no dominion.
--Dylan Thomas

[Bill]

"Christina Marie Thompson" > wrote in message
...
> Kudzu,
>
> You sound a lot like me. My dream house will have a river running
> through it. I haven't quite figured out how it will work, but I want a
> continuous flow of water from one end of the house to the other. I could
> have it a floor level and just have bridges at the doorways, and that
> would work fine for fish that look pretty from above, like koi. But I
> want a mini-Amazon with all South American tropical fish and plants. And
> tropicals generally look prettiest from the side, so I have to figure
> out how to have an eye-level river and still deal with doorways,
> windows, and such.

All it takes is money :)

[Haywire]

Well that's the thing, my fishroom is half way complete, and I'm trying to
get my cousin, the electrician over, to wire me a dedicated circuit for the
room. Because once the heaters go in, and stuff like that it will be a
decent draw on the circuit they are on now.

"Kudzu" > wrote in
:

>> Don't forget a GFCI circuit since you will have water and power in
>> close
>
>> proximity.
>
> Absolutely! That's just taken for granted. :-)
>
> But that brings up something I had not thought about. I normally just
> put a
>
> power strip on the floor or shelf of the stand. That won't work with
> this.
>
> Need to look at mounting it up high in the cabinet to keep it out of
> the
>
> water.
>
> On second thought I need to divide the cabinet with an interior wall.
> Make
>
> a dry area for the electric stuff and the food. Had not thought of
> that!
>
> That simple comment made me see something big I had over looked!
> Comments
>
> are welcome guys (and gals).
>
> Kudzu <*\\><
>
>
>
>
>

[Brad Irwin]

How about an automatic sprinkler valve on a timer and an overflow from
the sump to the drain and you have automatic water changing. You could
hard plum the python to the drain no splashing then. If you have water
and a drain there you are set you can do anything you want.

"Bill" > wrote in message news:<5EDXa.34937$Ne.11167@fed1read03>...
> "Christina Marie Thompson" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Kudzu,
> >
> > You sound a lot like me. My dream house will have a river running
> > through it. I haven't quite figured out how it will work, but I want a
> > continuous flow of water from one end of the house to the other. I could
> > have it a floor level and just have bridges at the doorways, and that
> > would work fine for fish that look pretty from above, like koi. But I
> > want a mini-Amazon with all South American tropical fish and plants. And
> > tropicals generally look prettiest from the side, so I have to figure
> > out how to have an eye-level river and still deal with doorways,
> > windows, and such.
>
> All it takes is money :)

[Mort]

"Kudzu" > wrote in message
...
> For four years we have been talking about our new house. Now it is going
to
> happen. In the next few weeks I will start to finalize and draw up the
> plans. One of the things I am going to have is a tank as a divider wall or
> screen if you will. The plan it have it open on three sides (two long
sides
> open) with a custom made stand and hood.
>
> Size is up in the air but most likely a 4 or 5 foot long tank around 75
> gallons. 6 ft long 120 gallons would be about the max. Nothing is decided
> yet but I am leaning toward a sump with a sand filter inside the stand.
All
> the water lines will have to be plumbed up the one enclosed end of the
tank
> to remain out of site. I am thinking either an overflow box or standpipe
on
> one end of the tank and then just run rigid PVC inside the hood to dump
the
> water on the opposite side of tank.
>
> Now for some of the ideas I am tossing around and maybe someone has done
> this or will have some suggestions on something I have not thought of.
>
> 1. Building the stand with a water proofed pan in the cabinet with a built
> in drain. Since I will be building the stand (I'm a woodworker) I am
> thinking about a shallow plywood box fiberglassed with a shower drain that
> is tied into the plumbing drains. Then overflows or leaks are not nearly
as
> big of a problem. (like tonight when the 0 ring in my canister let go!)
>
> 2. Hot and cold water inside the stand. Perhaps a laundry sink faucet
since
> they have a garden hose thread on the outlet. If I design this right I was
> thinking I could leave my python connected all the time. It would make
> servicing this tank and the others in my house MUCH simpler. I had a sink
> that would not drain fast enough so I attached a short garden hose to the
> sink and laid the python pump in the shower floor. The water splattered
very
> little. So I was thinking of the same thing in the cabinet.
>
> OK, someone got some other ideas? Or see any flaws I might have
overlooked?
>
> Kudzu <*\\><
>
>
>
>
>

Will this be sal****er or Fresh?

Dont forget lights in the cabinet for underneath the tank. That makes
things SO much better.

~Mort

[Charlie Spitzer]

i have a 125 in the middle of the room. bottom drill it and plumb from the
bottom. it looks better than a 3 sided one. have your builder put power in
the floor for you.

"Mort" > wrote in message
y.com...
>
> "Kudzu" > wrote in message
> ...
> > For four years we have been talking about our new house. Now it is going
> to
> > happen. In the next few weeks I will start to finalize and draw up the
> > plans. One of the things I am going to have is a tank as a divider wall
or
> > screen if you will. The plan it have it open on three sides (two long
> sides
> > open) with a custom made stand and hood.
> >
> > Size is up in the air but most likely a 4 or 5 foot long tank around 75
> > gallons. 6 ft long 120 gallons would be about the max. Nothing is
decided
> > yet but I am leaning toward a sump with a sand filter inside the stand.
> All
> > the water lines will have to be plumbed up the one enclosed end of the
> tank
> > to remain out of site. I am thinking either an overflow box or standpipe
> on
> > one end of the tank and then just run rigid PVC inside the hood to dump
> the
> > water on the opposite side of tank.
> >
> > Now for some of the ideas I am tossing around and maybe someone has done
> > this or will have some suggestions on something I have not thought of.
> >
> > 1. Building the stand with a water proofed pan in the cabinet with a
built
> > in drain. Since I will be building the stand (I'm a woodworker) I am
> > thinking about a shallow plywood box fiberglassed with a shower drain
that
> > is tied into the plumbing drains. Then overflows or leaks are not nearly
> as
> > big of a problem. (like tonight when the 0 ring in my canister let go!)
> >
> > 2. Hot and cold water inside the stand. Perhaps a laundry sink faucet
> since
> > they have a garden hose thread on the outlet. If I design this right I
was
> > thinking I could leave my python connected all the time. It would make
> > servicing this tank and the others in my house MUCH simpler. I had a
sink
> > that would not drain fast enough so I attached a short garden hose to
the
> > sink and laid the python pump in the shower floor. The water splattered
> very
> > little. So I was thinking of the same thing in the cabinet.
> >
> > OK, someone got some other ideas? Or see any flaws I might have
> overlooked?
> >
> > Kudzu <*\\><
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> Will this be sal****er or Fresh?
>
> Dont forget lights in the cabinet for underneath the tank. That makes
> things SO much better.
>
> ~Mort
>
>
>

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"Kudzu" > wrote in message
...
For four years we have been talking about our new house. Now it is going to
happen. In the next few weeks I will start to finalize and draw up the
plans. One of the things I am going to have is a tank as a divider wall or
screen if you will. The plan it have it open on three sides (two long sides
open) with a custom made stand and hood.

Size is up in the air but most likely a 4 or 5 foot long tank around 75
gallons. 6 ft long 120 gallons would be about the max. Nothing is decided
yet but I am leaning toward a sump with a sand filter inside the stand. All
the water lines will have to be plumbed up the one enclosed end of the tank
to remain out of site. I am thinking either an overflow box or standpipe on
one end of the tank and then just run rigid PVC inside the hood to dump the
water on the opposite side of tank.

Now for some of the ideas I am tossing around and maybe someone has done
this or will have some suggestions on something I have not thought of.

1. Building the stand with a water proofed pan in the cabinet with a built
in drain. Since I will be building the stand (I'm a woodworker) I am
thinking about a shallow plywood box fiberglassed with a shower drain that
is tied into the plumbing drains. Then overflows or leaks are not nearly as
big of a problem. (like tonight when the 0 ring in my canister let go!)

2. Hot and cold water inside the stand. Perhaps a laundry sink faucet since
they have a garden hose thread on the outlet. If I design this right I was
thinking I could leave my python connected all the time. It would make
servicing this tank and the others in my house MUCH simpler. I had a sink
that would not drain fast enough so I attached a short garden hose to the
sink and laid the python pump in the shower floor. The water splattered very
little. So I was thinking of the same thing in the cabinet.

OK, someone got some other ideas? Or see any flaws I might have overlooked?

Kudzu <*\\><