Gotta Move - Advice?

[Mikey]

Hi all;
On December 1st, I will need to move, and have an 80 gallon sal****er tank.
I saw the move coming, so there is only a Freidmani Pseudochrmis in there, 3
hermit crabs and a handful of snails. I can put the live rock in 5 gallon
buckets w/tankwater, I suppose. Same for the substrate. Will this move make
the tank toxic after I reassemble it? I'm sure it will wreak havoc with the
bacteria in the substrate.

Will an airstone w/a battery powered pump mess up the Ph in a five gallon
bucket with the critters in it?

Any advice? I'm moving less than ten miles away, so distance is not a
factor. I'd just rather not kill the creatures, you know?

I'm assuming I'll need to let the tank re-cycle after the move? No more fish
for 6-8 weeks?

[Marc Levenson]

Try this: http://www.melevsreef.com/moving_a_tank.html

Marc


Mikey wrote:
> Hi all;
> On December 1st, I will need to move, and have an 80 gallon sal****er tank.
> I saw the move coming, so there is only a Freidmani Pseudochrmis in there, 3
> hermit crabs and a handful of snails. I can put the live rock in 5 gallon
> buckets w/tankwater, I suppose. Same for the substrate. Will this move make
> the tank toxic after I reassemble it? I'm sure it will wreak havoc with the
> bacteria in the substrate.
>
> Will an airstone w/a battery powered pump mess up the Ph in a five gallon
> bucket with the critters in it?
>
> Any advice? I'm moving less than ten miles away, so distance is not a
> factor. I'd just rather not kill the creatures, you know?
>
> I'm assuming I'll need to let the tank re-cycle after the move? No more fish
> for 6-8 weeks?
>
>

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[Ray Martini]

Excellent article Marc (as always). I may be moving sometime in the next
couple months and was seirously thinking about just hanging up the reef tank
and doing a FW tank instead. This article just changed my mind. The reef is
coming with me!! As everything else in the hobby, patience moving the system
will produce successful results.


"Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
m...
> Try this: http://www.melevsreef.com/moving_a_tank.html
>
> Marc
>
>
> Mikey wrote:
>> Hi all;
>> On December 1st, I will need to move, and have an 80 gallon sal****er
>> tank. I saw the move coming, so there is only a Freidmani Pseudochrmis in
>> there, 3 hermit crabs and a handful of snails. I can put the live rock in
>> 5 gallon buckets w/tankwater, I suppose. Same for the substrate. Will
>> this move make the tank toxic after I reassemble it? I'm sure it will
>> wreak havoc with the bacteria in the substrate.
>>
>> Will an airstone w/a battery powered pump mess up the Ph in a five gallon
>> bucket with the critters in it?
>>
>> Any advice? I'm moving less than ten miles away, so distance is not a
>> factor. I'd just rather not kill the creatures, you know?
>>
>> I'm assuming I'll need to let the tank re-cycle after the move? No more
>> fish for 6-8 weeks?
>
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[Marc Levenson]

Thanks Ray. I really hope it helps, and that you get to your
destination with happy healthy livestock.

FYI, if you need air bubblers, I found that Walmart sells some for $7
for fisherman to keep their bait alive. It uses D batteries and they
are supposed to run for a long time. So if you have a lot of fish
travelling, that may be a prudent item to acquire.

Marc


Ray Martini wrote:
> Excellent article Marc (as always). I may be moving sometime in the next
> couple months and was seirously thinking about just hanging up the reef tank
> and doing a FW tank instead. This article just changed my mind. The reef is
> coming with me!! As everything else in the hobby, patience moving the system
> will produce successful results.
>
>
> "Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
> m...
>
>>Try this: http://www.melevsreef.com/moving_a_tank.html
>>
>>Marc
>>
>>
>>Mikey wrote:
>>
>>>Hi all;
>>>On December 1st, I will need to move, and have an 80 gallon sal****er
>>>tank. I saw the move coming, so there is only a Freidmani Pseudochrmis in
>>>there, 3 hermit crabs and a handful of snails. I can put the live rock in
>>>5 gallon buckets w/tankwater, I suppose. Same for the substrate. Will
>>>this move make the tank toxic after I reassemble it? I'm sure it will
>>>wreak havoc with the bacteria in the substrate.
>>>
>>>Will an airstone w/a battery powered pump mess up the Ph in a five gallon
>>>bucket with the critters in it?
>>>
>>>Any advice? I'm moving less than ten miles away, so distance is not a
>>>factor. I'd just rather not kill the creatures, you know?
>>>
>>>I'm assuming I'll need to let the tank re-cycle after the move? No more
>>>fish for 6-8 weeks?
>>
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>>Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com
>>Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com
>
>
>

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[Mikey]

Thanks, Marc. This is the ticket. I will have to empty the substrate,
though, the tank is very heavy empty. If I tried to use all the sand in the
new tank, it would make it toxic, I'm guessing. Is this the reason behind
just saving some of the top layer, and tossing the rest?
"Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
om...
> Thanks Ray. I really hope it helps, and that you get to your destination
> with happy healthy livestock.
>
> FYI, if you need air bubblers, I found that Walmart sells some for $7 for
> fisherman to keep their bait alive. It uses D batteries and they are
> supposed to run for a long time. So if you have a lot of fish travelling,
> that may be a prudent item to acquire.
>
> Marc
>
>
> Ray Martini wrote:
>> Excellent article Marc (as always). I may be moving sometime in the next
>> couple months and was seirously thinking about just hanging up the reef
>> tank and doing a FW tank instead. This article just changed my mind. The
>> reef is coming with me!! As everything else in the hobby, patience moving
>> the system will produce successful results.
>>
>>
>> "Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
>> m...
>>
>>>Try this: http://www.melevsreef.com/moving_a_tank.html
>>>
>>>Marc
>>>
>>>
>>>Mikey wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi all;
>>>>On December 1st, I will need to move, and have an 80 gallon sal****er
>>>>tank. I saw the move coming, so there is only a Freidmani Pseudochrmis
>>>>in there, 3 hermit crabs and a handful of snails. I can put the live
>>>>rock in 5 gallon buckets w/tankwater, I suppose. Same for the substrate.
>>>>Will this move make the tank toxic after I reassemble it? I'm sure it
>>>>will wreak havoc with the bacteria in the substrate.
>>>>
>>>>Will an airstone w/a battery powered pump mess up the Ph in a five
>>>>gallon bucket with the critters in it?
>>>>
>>>>Any advice? I'm moving less than ten miles away, so distance is not a
>>>>factor. I'd just rather not kill the creatures, you know?
>>>>
>>>>I'm assuming I'll need to let the tank re-cycle after the move? No more
>>>>fish for 6-8 weeks?
>>>
>>>--
>>>Personal Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/oanda/index.html
>>>Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com
>>>Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com
>>
>>
>>
>
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[Marc Levenson]

Yes, if the sandbed is over 6 months old, I don't recommend reusing it
unless you want to wash it and dry it thoroughly. That is a ton of
work, but if you don't do this you'll be releasing phosphate and nitrate
and other bad stuff that has been trapped under the rockwork and deep
within the sand.

Marc


Mikey wrote:
> Thanks, Marc. This is the ticket. I will have to empty the substrate,
> though, the tank is very heavy empty. If I tried to use all the sand in the
> new tank, it would make it toxic, I'm guessing. Is this the reason behind
> just saving some of the top layer, and tossing the rest?
> "Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
> om...
>
>>Thanks Ray. I really hope it helps, and that you get to your destination
>>with happy healthy livestock.
>>
>>FYI, if you need air bubblers, I found that Walmart sells some for $7 for
>>fisherman to keep their bait alive. It uses D batteries and they are
>>supposed to run for a long time. So if you have a lot of fish travelling,
>>that may be a prudent item to acquire.
>>
>>Marc
>>
>>
>>Ray Martini wrote:
>>
>>>Excellent article Marc (as always). I may be moving sometime in the next
>>>couple months and was seirously thinking about just hanging up the reef
>>>tank and doing a FW tank instead. This article just changed my mind. The
>>>reef is coming with me!! As everything else in the hobby, patience moving
>>>the system will produce successful results.
>>>
>>>
>>>"Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
m...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Try this: http://www.melevsreef.com/moving_a_tank.html
>>>>
>>>>Marc
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Mikey wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hi all;
>>>>>On December 1st, I will need to move, and have an 80 gallon sal****er
>>>>>tank. I saw the move coming, so there is only a Freidmani Pseudochrmis
>>>>>in there, 3 hermit crabs and a handful of snails. I can put the live
>>>>>rock in 5 gallon buckets w/tankwater, I suppose. Same for the substrate.
>>>>>Will this move make the tank toxic after I reassemble it? I'm sure it
>>>>>will wreak havoc with the bacteria in the substrate.
>>>>>
>>>>>Will an airstone w/a battery powered pump mess up the Ph in a five
>>>>>gallon bucket with the critters in it?
>>>>>
>>>>>Any advice? I'm moving less than ten miles away, so distance is not a
>>>>>factor. I'd just rather not kill the creatures, you know?
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm assuming I'll need to let the tank re-cycle after the move? No more
>>>>>fish for 6-8 weeks?
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Personal Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/oanda/index.html
>>>>Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com
>>>>Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>--
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>>Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com
>>Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com
>
>
>

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[Wayne Sallee]

Yes you can reuse all of the sand.

Just take the top layer off, and put it in a container
where it will be rather shallow. Those plastic tubs you
get at department stores work well. The deaper sand, just
put in 5 gallon buckets. Your only making a short move, so
it's very simple.

If you can, make up your new water ahead of time there at
the new location. Use 33 gallon rubbermade trash cans.
Those trash cans are not made as strong as they used to
be, so figure on it being in there for 24 hours, not more
than a few days. They used to hold up for months and
years. I've still got some that I've used for about 5
years, but the newer ones should not be holding water for
more than a few days. After holding water for about a
month, they start to leak.

Put the buckets of sand in the tank, and spread it out,
and then put the top layer of sand on top, then put
plastic on top and a heavy bowl on top of that, Poor your
water into the bowl. Pumps and hoses make that easyer. The
bowl and plastic are to keep you from stiring up the sand.

Your sand is fine to be reused.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets




Marc Levenson wrote on 11/11/2005 6:37 AM:
> Yes, if the sandbed is over 6 months old, I don't recommend reusing it
> unless you want to wash it and dry it thoroughly. That is a ton of
> work, but if you don't do this you'll be releasing phosphate and nitrate
> and other bad stuff that has been trapped under the rockwork and deep
> within the sand.
>
> Marc
>
>
> Mikey wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Marc. This is the ticket. I will have to empty the substrate,
>> though, the tank is very heavy empty. If I tried to use all the sand
>> in the new tank, it would make it toxic, I'm guessing. Is this the
>> reason behind just saving some of the top layer, and tossing the rest?
>> "Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
>> om...
>>
>>> Thanks Ray. I really hope it helps, and that you get to your
>>> destination with happy healthy livestock.
>>>
>>> FYI, if you need air bubblers, I found that Walmart sells some for $7
>>> for fisherman to keep their bait alive. It uses D batteries and they
>>> are supposed to run for a long time. So if you have a lot of fish
>>> travelling, that may be a prudent item to acquire.
>>>
>>> Marc
>>>
>>>
>>> Ray Martini wrote:
>>>
>>>> Excellent article Marc (as always). I may be moving sometime in the
>>>> next couple months and was seirously thinking about just hanging up
>>>> the reef tank and doing a FW tank instead. This article just changed
>>>> my mind. The reef is coming with me!! As everything else in the
>>>> hobby, patience moving the system will produce successful results.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
>>>> m...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Try this: http://www.melevsreef.com/moving_a_tank.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Marc
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mikey wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all;
>>>>>> On December 1st, I will need to move, and have an 80 gallon
>>>>>> sal****er tank. I saw the move coming, so there is only a
>>>>>> Freidmani Pseudochrmis in there, 3 hermit crabs and a handful of
>>>>>> snails. I can put the live rock in 5 gallon buckets w/tankwater, I
>>>>>> suppose. Same for the substrate. Will this move make the tank
>>>>>> toxic after I reassemble it? I'm sure it will wreak havoc with the
>>>>>> bacteria in the substrate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Will an airstone w/a battery powered pump mess up the Ph in a five
>>>>>> gallon bucket with the critters in it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any advice? I'm moving less than ten miles away, so distance is
>>>>>> not a factor. I'd just rather not kill the creatures, you know?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm assuming I'll need to let the tank re-cycle after the move? No
>>>>>> more fish for 6-8 weeks?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Personal Page:
>>>>> http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/oanda/index.html
>>>>> Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com
>>>>> Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>> Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com
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>>
>>
>>
>>
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