New Tank

[ebeb]

I have a new 220gallon tank. has been up for a week with 175 pounds of
live rock.

Should I start putting in fish now? If so how many and what kind?

What else?

Thanks!


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[CapFusion]

Check your water parameter first before putting in any inhabitant.
I think you are on this stage - ReefCentral.com -
http://tinylink.com/?nvJOng8j6e
The above link should answer your question regarding when your tank is
ready.

CapFusion,...


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> I have a new 220gallon tank. has been up for a week with 175 pounds of
> live rock.
>
> Should I start putting in fish now? If so how many and what kind?
>
> What else?
>
> Thanks!
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[ebeb]

So if I want to put fish in now everyone keeps saying not damsels. What
can I put in that will be hardy, help finish off my cycling, and be
more interesting than watching my live rock?


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[Joseph]

What's wrong with damsels? They are active, responsive, smart?

IMO & IME they're not that bad of a fish... But yet I have a tank
that is less then 10% of yours and can't hold more then a couple of
Damsels and a gramma...

On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 01:33:43 +0000, ebeb >
wrote:

>
>So if I want to put fish in now everyone keeps saying not damsels. What
>can I put in that will be hardy, help finish off my cycling, and be
>more interesting than watching my live rock?

[Dragon Slayer]

> What's wrong with damsels? They are active, responsive, smart?
>

and to add to your list, they are also:

very territorial
mean as hell
like to nip at other fish
like to kill other fish
a 2" one can kill a 20' shark
a PITA to catch out and get rid of without taking the tank down.


the list goes on and on. they are very attractive fish, but they tend to be
better kept in a tank to themselves rather then in a community tank.

hth
kc

[Ct Midnite]

That's what I started with. Two blue damsels and one velvet damsel.
They have been nothing but trouble.

I used to really like the blue damsels but they weakened a 6 line
wrasse in one hour before I knew what was going on to the point he
ended up dying. I had to tear the tank apart to get them out.

The velvet was such a pest he's in a tank by his self. I think I've
seen where he's also know as a devil fish. Man he's mean.

It's not so much that they hurt thing when you put them in a tank with
other fish, it's more that they hurt a new fish when you put it in
with them.

The only good thing I can think about them is they are all less than
$5 around here and the lfs will take them back after your tank has
cycled. No money back but you don't have to flush them or eat them on
pizza :).

Ct Midnite

On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:19:41 -0600, "Dragon Slayer"
> wrote:

>> What's wrong with damsels? They are active, responsive, smart?
>>
>
>and to add to your list, they are also:
>
>very territorial
>mean as hell
>like to nip at other fish
>like to kill other fish
>a 2" one can kill a 20' shark
>a PITA to catch out and get rid of without taking the tank down.
>
>
>the list goes on and on. they are very attractive fish, but they tend to be
>better kept in a tank to themselves rather then in a community tank.
>
>hth
>kc
>
>
>

[CapFusion]

"Joseph" > wrote in message
...
> What's wrong with damsels? They are active, responsive, smart?
>
> IMO & IME they're not that bad of a fish... But yet I have a tank
> that is less then 10% of yours and can't hold more then a couple of
> Damsels and a gramma...


Nothing wrong really. You describe them as:
Active - Very active and terrotorial.
Responsive - Will defend and drive other that come near it space (probably
the whole tank).
Smart - Very, it will hide when you bring your net near, especially in the
rock-work.

Actually, the original post:

So if I want to put fish in now everyone keeps saying not damsels. What
can I put in that will be hardy, help finish off my cycling, and be
more interesting than watching my live rock?

If I understand correctly, this message regarding about assist in finishing
the tank cycle with regarding damsel. Eventhough Damsel is hardy, it not
really right to cause harm to any hardy fish. Better if new tank can finish
it cycle by adding raw gourmet shrimp and water changes to remove any
excessive A.N.N. and savage any left-over critter that are still alive in
the LR.

CapFusion,...

[plaguebeast]

"Dragon Slayer" > wrote in message
...
> > What's wrong with damsels? They are active, responsive, smart?
> >
>
> and to add to your list, they are also:
>
> very territorial
> mean as hell
> like to nip at other fish
> like to kill other fish
> a 2" one can kill a 20' shark
> a PITA to catch out and get rid of without taking the tank down.
>
>
> the list goes on and on. they are very attractive fish, but they tend to
be
> better kept in a tank to themselves rather then in a community tank.
>
> hth
> kc
>
>
>
>

how can a 2" damsel kill a 20' shark ? swim into it's mouth and choke it ?

[Dragon Slayer]

out of sure damn meanness. they will nip his fins off till he cant swim and
then he'll die of asphyxiation.

kc

"plaguebeast" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Dragon Slayer" > wrote in message
> ...
> > > What's wrong with damsels? They are active, responsive, smart?
> > >
> >
> > and to add to your list, they are also:
> >
> > very territorial
> > mean as hell
> > like to nip at other fish
> > like to kill other fish
> > a 2" one can kill a 20' shark
> > a PITA to catch out and get rid of without taking the tank down.
> >
> >
> > the list goes on and on. they are very attractive fish, but they tend
to
> be
> > better kept in a tank to themselves rather then in a community tank.
> >
> > hth
> > kc
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> how can a 2" damsel kill a 20' shark ? swim into it's mouth and choke it
?
>
>

[plaguebeast]

"Dragon Slayer" > wrote in message
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> out of sure damn meanness. they will nip his fins off till he cant swim
and
> then he'll die of asphyxiation.
>

<snip>

> > >
> >
> > how can a 2" damsel kill a 20' shark ? swim into it's mouth and choke
it
> ?
> >
> >
>
>

are there any real, documented cases of this happening ?

[Dragon Slayer]

"plaguebeast" > wrote in message
.. .

>
> are there any real, documented cases of this happening ?
>
>


<eyeroll> No, I took the shark out of the tank just before he nipped the
last of his fins off.


geesh
kc

[plaguebeast]

"Dragon Slayer" > wrote in message
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>
> "plaguebeast" > wrote in message
> .. .
>
> >
> > are there any real, documented cases of this happening ?
> >
> >
>
>
> <eyeroll> No, I took the shark out of the tank just before he nipped the
> last of his fins off.
>
>
> geesh
> kc
>
>

how many gallons do you need to keep a 20' shark ?

[Dragon Slayer]

one thousand two hundred sixty three. less for the displacment of the
shark and the damsel.

kc

[Richard Reynolds]

> one thousand two hundred sixty three. less for the displacment of the
> shark and the damsel.

now remeber to take into acount that the damsel will eat the shark once that occurs you
will only need about 30 gallons.


> kc

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[Dragon Slayer]

well the damsel is now confined to a compartment with way less then 30g but
has a nice flow through it to keep him plenty of 'fresh' water.

kc

"Richard Reynolds" > wrote in message
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> > one thousand two hundred sixty three. less for the displacment of the
> > shark and the damsel.
>
> now remeber to take into acount that the damsel will eat the shark once
that occurs you
> will only need about 30 gallons.
>
>
> > kc
>
> :)
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>
>
>

[plaguebeast]

"Dragon Slayer" > wrote in message
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> one thousand two hundred sixty three. less for the displacment of the
> shark and the damsel.
>
> kc
>
>

that is incredibly inhumane (insharkly maybe) he would have hardly enough
room to turn around.

[Dragon Slayer]

after the Damsel nipped most of his fin's off he was able to turn around
quite easily. guess it was a "Give/Take" relationship they developed.
<eyeroll>

kc

"plaguebeast" > wrote in message
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>
> "Dragon Slayer" > wrote in message
> ...
> > one thousand two hundred sixty three. less for the displacment of the
> > shark and the damsel.
> >
> > kc
> >
> >
>
> that is incredibly inhumane (insharkly maybe) he would have hardly enough
> room to turn around.
>
>

[John B]

lol
this whole thread is awesome, lol

John

"Dragon Slayer" > wrote in message
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> after the Damsel nipped most of his fin's off he was able to turn around
> quite easily. guess it was a "Give/Take" relationship they developed.
> <eyeroll>
>
> kc
>
> "plaguebeast" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Dragon Slayer" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > one thousand two hundred sixty three. less for the displacment of
the
> > > shark and the damsel.
> > >
> > > kc
> > >
> > >
> >
> > that is incredibly inhumane (insharkly maybe) he would have hardly
enough
> > room to turn around.
> >
> >
>
>

[plaguebeast]

Seems like he would have just sunk to the bottom.


"Dragon Slayer" > wrote in message
...
> after the Damsel nipped most of his fin's off he was able to turn around
> quite easily. guess it was a "Give/Take" relationship they developed.
> <eyeroll>
>
> kc
>
> "plaguebeast" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Dragon Slayer" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > one thousand two hundred sixty three. less for the displacment of
the
> > > shark and the damsel.
> > >
> > > kc
> > >
> > >
> >
> > that is incredibly inhumane (insharkly maybe) he would have hardly
enough
> > room to turn around.
> >
> >
>
>

[Dragon Slayer]

most likely would have if not for the 10x Tunze Stream 6100's pushing 3175
gph ea. to keep him afloat.

<felling like a true troll now>

kc

[plaguebeast]

"Dragon Slayer" > wrote in message
...
> most likely would have if not for the 10x Tunze Stream 6100's pushing 3175
> gph ea. to keep him afloat.
>
> <felling like a true troll now>
>
> kc
>
>

maybe you could have hung him in the water with some wires attached to the
hood.

[Dragon Slayer]

>
> maybe you could have hung him in the water with some wires attached to the
> hood.
>

No hood on the tank, it's open top.

kc