Any one have any feedback about automatic feeders (Netmax)?

[Daniel Morrow]

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I just thought I would do a tiny survey about you all's results with
automatic feeders, for fun. I myself have received proper operation
of my automatic feeder at all times since I elevated it 12 or so
inches above that tank's water's surface, and that's on a tank with a
lot of bubbles bursting at the surface. One thing I would like to see
regarding automatic feeders is bigger ones, like the one fishmate (I
think) makes for ponds (too small for ponds, about right for
aquariums). The only thing I need to do is 2 things - 1. refill it
regularly and 2. change the battery every 1 or 2 months as I use
rechargeable nickel metal hydrides (1 aa). Anyone still getting
clogged automatic feeders even after elevating it properly? Just
curious, netmax you got me thinking after your recent message in one
of your posts about automatic feeders. Later, all, and good luck!

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[NetMax]

"Gill Passman" > wrote in message
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>> I just thought I would do a tiny survey about you all's results with
>> automatic feeders, for fun. I myself have received proper operation
>> of my automatic feeder at all times since I elevated it 12 or so
>> inches above that tank's water's surface, and that's on a tank with a
>> lot of bubbles bursting at the surface. One thing I would like to see
>> regarding automatic feeders is bigger ones, like the one fishmate (I
>> think) makes for ponds (too small for ponds, about right for
>> aquariums). The only thing I need to do is 2 things - 1. refill it
>> regularly and 2. change the battery every 1 or 2 months as I use
>> rechargeable nickel metal hydrides (1 aa). Anyone still getting
>> clogged automatic feeders even after elevating it properly? Just
>> curious, netmax you got me thinking after your recent message in one
>> of your posts about automatic feeders. Later, all, and good luck!
>>
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>
> I've never used one myself as I actually really enjoy fishy food time
> but I can see the benefit...just been over to my LFS and spotted a
> really cool programable one but resisted the temptation - £40 is a lot,
> but might be worth considering on the larger tanks though....they also
> had some cheaper ones....but I do quite like gadgets (also an
> electronic one might fit into my thoughts on getting warnings when
> things go wrong).
>
> Gill


My experienced is quite limited. I have 3, 2 models. All from Hagen,
digital, don't know their name... I'll go look... NutraMatic. Black one
with limited controls, green ones with more buttons. The batteries seem
to last forever (don't recall ever changing them). They could hold more
food (but I can always get more lazy). They are set to feeding twice a
day, with 12 hours between feedings. This is a little annoying, but I
might be able to change this on the unit with more buttons (if I was
really inclined). Like most feeders, the food used really influences
their operation. Using only flakes would clog it up. I use a
pellet/flake mixture and I make sure the flakes are not huge (as you get
with bulk purchases).

In terms of infant mortality, these auto-feeders were very poor. I think
2 broke within a few months (replaced at no cost, just inconvenience).
The failure mechanism was that the digital display would go into la-la
land (flashing incoherently). I've since softened my opinion as they
have been operating problem-free for about 2 years.

The NutraMatics cost about $50 cdn, so they are not cheap to buy, but I
have no regrets now. My running cost has been about 7 cents a day per
tank (dividing their purchase cost by current operating life). If I
needed more, I would probably buy the best I could afford (quality)
on-line (save some bucks) from a reputable supplier (in case of early
failures).

I also love feeding the fish, but I love more that they get regularly
fed, so I only hand feed the treats (evenings and weekends, when at all).
If I was inclined, I'd program just the morning feedings, and I could do
all the evening feedings. I don't enjoy the morning feedings anyways,
too busy, too many tanks (one is built into a wall), I'm lazy, ymmv, they
are not for everyone.
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[Gill Passman]

Daniel Morrow wrote:
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> I just thought I would do a tiny survey about you all's results with
> automatic feeders, for fun. I myself have received proper operation
> of my automatic feeder at all times since I elevated it 12 or so
> inches above that tank's water's surface, and that's on a tank with a
> lot of bubbles bursting at the surface. One thing I would like to see
> regarding automatic feeders is bigger ones, like the one fishmate (I
> think) makes for ponds (too small for ponds, about right for
> aquariums). The only thing I need to do is 2 things - 1. refill it
> regularly and 2. change the battery every 1 or 2 months as I use
> rechargeable nickel metal hydrides (1 aa). Anyone still getting
> clogged automatic feeders even after elevating it properly? Just
> curious, netmax you got me thinking after your recent message in one
> of your posts about automatic feeders. Later, all, and good luck!
>
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I've never used one myself as I actually really enjoy fishy food time
but I can see the benefit...just been over to my LFS and spotted a
really cool programable one but resisted the temptation - £40 is a lot,
but might be worth considering on the larger tanks though....they also
had some cheaper ones....but I do quite like gadgets (also an electronic
one might fit into my thoughts on getting warnings when things go wrong).

Gill

[Daniel Morrow]

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"NetMax" > wrote in message
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> "Gill Passman" > wrote in message

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> > Daniel Morrow wrote:
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> >> I just thought I would do a tiny survey about you all's results
with
> >> automatic feeders, for fun. I myself have received proper
operation
> >> of my automatic feeder at all times since I elevated it 12 or
so
> >> inches above that tank's water's surface, and that's on a tank
with a
> >> lot of bubbles bursting at the surface. One thing I would like
to see
> >> regarding automatic feeders is bigger ones, like the one
fishmate (I
> >> think) makes for ponds (too small for ponds, about right for
> >> aquariums). The only thing I need to do is 2 things - 1. refill
it
> >> regularly and 2. change the battery every 1 or 2 months as I
use
> >> rechargeable nickel metal hydrides (1 aa). Anyone still getting
> >> clogged automatic feeders even after elevating it properly?
Just
> >> curious, netmax you got me thinking after your recent message in
one
> >> of your posts about automatic feeders. Later, all, and good
luck!
> > I've never used one myself as I actually really enjoy fishy food
time
> > but I can see the benefit...just been over to my LFS and spotted
a
> > really cool programable one but resisted the temptation - £40 is
a lot,
> > but might be worth considering on the larger tanks though....they
also
> > had some cheaper ones....but I do quite like gadgets (also an
> > electronic one might fit into my thoughts on getting warnings
when
> > things go wrong).
> >
> > Gill
>
>
> My experienced is quite limited. I have 3, 2 models. All from
Hagen,
> digital, don't know their name... I'll go look... NutraMatic

I have one usused (as of yet) nutramatic and 2 (1 being used) daily
double penn plax automqatic feeders.

.. Black one
> with limited controls, green ones with more buttons. The batteries
seem
> to last forever (don't recall ever changing them). They could hold
more
> food (but I can always get more lazy). They are set to feeding
twice a
> day, with 12 hours between feedings. This is a little annoying,
but I
> might be able to change this on the unit with more buttons (if I
was
> really inclined). Like most feeders, the food used really
influences
> their operation. Using only flakes would clog it up.

Seems to be true - I powder all flake food that goes into my
automatic feeder and plan to continue to do so as this way my feeder
never fails (although the ultimate key to automatic feeders always
working in my opinion is suspending (tricky I know, for some if not a
lot of situations they have to be suspended 12 or more inches above
the water's surface by hanging it from the ceiling by a string, I
lean a plane of glass against my 15 usa gallon bedroom tank and
fasten my daily double to the top of it making it hang over an open
area of my tank so the food always reaches the water's surface) the
automatic feeder 12 or more inches above the water's surface). I
agree with the other posters here though that too much automation
(again hence the word TOO) can depersonalize the hobby and devalue it
possibly causing neglect, I enjoy my fancy guppies getting excited
when they see me at the living room tank where I feed them and I
especially LOVE it when they tickle my arm/hand when I reach in every
4 days (plus) to lift the powerhead out for maintenance to keep it
clean so it always works and gets enough oooomph when the power comes
back on after a power outage, same with all of my other submersible
equipment. I LOVE that tickling they do to me. That is always fun.
Despite dropping my automatic feeder a few times on the floor and
once in the water and it not breaking they can be fragile.

I use a
> pellet/flake mixture and I make sure the flakes are not huge (as
you get
> with bulk purchases).
>
> In terms of infant mortality, these auto-feeders were very poor. I
think
> 2 broke within a few months (replaced at no cost, just
inconvenience).
> The failure mechanism was that the digital display would go into
la-la
> land (flashing incoherently). I've since softened my opinion as
they
> have been operating problem-free for about 2 years.
>
> The NutraMatics cost about $50 cdn, so they are not cheap to buy,
but I
> have no regrets now. My running cost has been about 7 cents a day
per
> tank (dividing their purchase cost by current operating life). If
I
> needed more, I would probably buy the best I could afford (quality)

> on-line (save some bucks) from a reputable supplier (in case of
early
> failures).
>
> I also love feeding the fish, but I love more that they get
regularly
> fed, so I only hand feed the treats (evenings and weekends, when at
all).
> If I was inclined, I'd program just the morning feedings, and I
could do
> all the evening feedings. I don't enjoy the morning feedings
anyways,
> too busy, too many tanks (one is built into a wall), I'm lazy,
ymmv, they
> are not for everyone.
> --
> www.NetMax.tk
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[Daniel Morrow]

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"Diorite" > wrote in message
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> In article >,
> Gill Passman > wrote:
>
> > Daniel Morrow wrote:
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> > > I just thought I would do a tiny survey about you all's results
with
> > > automatic feeders, for fun. I myself have received proper
operation
> > > of my automatic feeder at all times since I elevated it 12 or
so
> > > inches above that tank's water's surface, and that's on a tank
with a
> > > lot of bubbles bursting at the surface. One thing I would like
to see
> > > regarding automatic feeders is bigger ones, like the one
fishmate (I
> > > think) makes for ponds (too small for ponds, about right for
> > > aquariums). The only thing I need to do is 2 things - 1. refill
it
> > > regularly and 2. change the battery every 1 or 2 months as I
use
> > > rechargeable nickel metal hydrides (1 aa). Anyone still
getting
> > > clogged automatic feeders even after elevating it properly?
Just
> > > curious, netmax you got me thinking after your recent message
in one
> > > of your posts about automatic feeders. Later, all, and good
luck!
>
> The small auto feeder that I own (or think I do, haven't seen it
since
> we moved) has always worked fine. I did make sure it dropped food
> through a small hole in the canopy. I also turned off all bubblers
and
> other spray sources when it was in use. It might not work as well
in
> longer term use, I just use it when we are going to be away for
several
> days or more.
> > I've never used one myself as I actually really enjoy fishy food
time
> > but I can see the benefit...just been over to my LFS and spotted
a
> > really cool programable one but resisted the temptation - £40 is
a lot,
> > but might be worth considering on the larger tanks though....they
also
> > had some cheaper ones....but I do quite like gadgets (also an
electronic
> > one might fit into my thoughts on getting warnings when things go
wrong).
>
> I also like the interaction with the fish. But without a mechanical

> feeder a ten day vacation means coming home to fewer fish.

I need to figure out what the most appropriate way is for me to
suspend my automatic feeders above my 55 gallon tank in the living
room, Then if I do it right I can leave for 2 weeks and come back to
o.k. tanks (although the next thing I need to figure out is how to
keep the tank's water level good this whole time - anyone know of any
automatic water controllers? ;-)), I would have others here monitor
the tanks just in case and call me at my relatives' place and get
instructions from me on how to fix it or I can come back early to
save everything. This is all up in the air for now. I couldn't
believe the condition of my 15 gallon when I went away for 2 weeks 2
or more years ago when I got back - my "caretaker" didn't even tell
me the water level was getting low, I'll never trust him again
despite my success with everything else without him, unless of course
I had no choice but to leave and even then I would put up a big fight
about it. Any ways - good luck all, and later!


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[David C. Stone]

In article >,
Diorite > wrote:

> In article >,
> Gill Passman > wrote:
>
> > Daniel Morrow wrote:
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> > > I just thought I would do a tiny survey about you all's results with
> > > automatic feeders, for fun. I myself have received proper operation
> > > of my automatic feeder at all times since I elevated it 12 or so
> > > inches above that tank's water's surface, and that's on a tank with a
> > > lot of bubbles bursting at the surface.

[snipped much discussion]

I have a small, cheap one on the big tank at work, largely because I'm
not there on the weekends. I considered getting a programmable one
and just have it work at weekends, but the $$ weren't in the budget.

The one I ended up with is basically a battery-operated clock which,
instead of hands, has a shaft which rotates a drum. The fish get fed
twice a day, 12 hours apart. It sits just on the edge of the tank,
about 1-1.5 inches above the water. I've had it there since the spring,
and not had any problems with it, although the location the food tends
to drop out does depend on how full the drum is.

No complaints from the fish, either!

[Daniel Morrow]

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"NetMax" > wrote in message
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> "Gill Passman" > wrote in message

> .. .
> > Daniel Morrow wrote:
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> >> I just thought I would do a tiny survey about you all's results
with
> >> automatic feeders, for fun. I myself have received proper
operation
> >> of my automatic feeder at all times since I elevated it 12 or
so
> >> inches above that tank's water's surface, and that's on a tank
with a
> >> lot of bubbles bursting at the surface. One thing I would like
to see
> >> regarding automatic feeders is bigger ones, like the one
fishmate (I
> >> think) makes for ponds (too small for ponds, about right for
> >> aquariums). The only thing I need to do is 2 things - 1. refill
it
> >> regularly and 2. change the battery every 1 or 2 months as I
use
> >> rechargeable nickel metal hydrides (1 aa). Anyone still getting
> >> clogged automatic feeders even after elevating it properly?
Just
> >> curious, netmax you got me thinking after your recent message in
one
> >> of your posts about automatic feeders. Later, all, and good
luck!

> > I've never used one myself as I actually really enjoy fishy food
time
> > but I can see the benefit...just been over to my LFS and spotted
a
> > really cool programable one but resisted the temptation - £40 is
a lot,
> > but might be worth considering on the larger tanks though....they
also
> > had some cheaper ones....but I do quite like gadgets (also an
> > electronic one might fit into my thoughts on getting warnings
when
> > things go wrong).
> >
> > Gill
>
>
> My experienced is quite limited. I have 3, 2 models. All from
Hagen,
> digital, don't know their name... I'll go look... NutraMatic.
Black one
> with limited controls, green ones with more buttons. The batteries
seem
> to last forever (don't recall ever changing them).

Alkaline battery(s) like you probably use hold a unused charge for
years as compared to only approximately 2 months for rechargeable
nickel metal hydrides like I use, practically speaking, that's why I
change my batteries as often as I do.

Si They could hold more
> food (but I can always get more lazy). They are set to feeding
twice a
> day, with 12 hours between feedings. This is a little annoying,
but I
> might be able to change this on the unit with more buttons (if I
was
> really inclined). Like most feeders, the food used really
influences
> their operation. Using only flakes would clog it up. I use a
> pellet/flake mixture and I make sure the flakes are not huge (as
you get
> with bulk purchases).
>
> In terms of infant mortality, these auto-feeders were very poor. I
think
> 2 broke within a few months (replaced at no cost, just
inconvenience).
> The failure mechanism was that the digital display would go into
la-la
> land (flashing incoherently). I've since softened my opinion as
they
> have been operating problem-free for about 2 years.
>
> The NutraMatics cost about $50 cdn, so they are not cheap to buy,
but I
> have no regrets now. My running cost has been about 7 cents a day
per
> tank (dividing their purchase cost by current operating life). If
I
> needed more, I would probably buy the best I could afford (quality)

> on-line (save some bucks) from a reputable supplier (in case of
early
> failures).
>
> I also love feeding the fish, but I love more that they get
regularly
> fed, so I only hand feed the treats (evenings and weekends, when at
all).
> If I was inclined, I'd program just the morning feedings, and I
could do
> all the evening feedings. I don't enjoy the morning feedings
anyways,
> too busy, too many tanks (one is built into a wall), I'm lazy,
ymmv, they
> are not for everyone.
> --
> www.NetMax.tk
>
>

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[Jürgen Exner]

Daniel Morrow wrote:
> I just thought I would do a tiny survey about you all's results with
> automatic feeders, for fun.

Back in Germany with my old aquarium (that was some 15 years ago) I had an
Eheim feeders with a rotating drum that would drop flake food. No good,
would clog, amount of dispensed food varied a lot, difficult to adjust the
amount, ...
Then I bought a Grässlin Rondomatic and no problems whatsoever. Would do
tablets, flakes, freeze dried in premeasured amounts without a glitch for as
many times a day as you like. No clogging, extremely easy and accurate to
use. Only small problem was cleaning: rinsing those 28 small containers,
drying them, and then re-assembling them was a pain.

And as you may have seen in an earlier post now I am looking for a source
for a reasonably priced source for a Grässlin Rondomatic in North America
for my new tank here. I would buy one in Germany and bring it across the big
pond myself, but unfortunately that is a chicken-and-egg problem: before I
can go to Germany I need the feeder.

jue

[Daniel Morrow]

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"Jürgen Exner" > wrote in message
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> Daniel Morrow wrote:
> > I just thought I would do a tiny survey about you all's results
with
> > automatic feeders, for fun.
>
> Back in Germany with my old aquarium (that was some 15 years ago) I
had an
> Eheim feeders with a rotating drum that would drop flake food. No
good,
> would clog, amount of dispensed food varied a lot, difficult to
adjust the
> amount, ...
> Then I bought a Grässlin Rondomatic and no problems whatsoever.
Would do
> tablets, flakes, freeze dried in premeasured amounts without a
glitch for as
> many times a day as you like. No clogging, extremely easy and
accurate to
> use. Only small problem was cleaning: rinsing those 28 small
containers,
> drying them, and then re-assembling them was a pain.
>
> And as you may have seen in an earlier post now I am looking for a
source
> for a reasonably priced source for a Grässlin Rondomatic in North
America
> for my new tank here. I would buy one in Germany and bring it
across the big
> pond myself, but unfortunately that is a chicken-and-egg problem:
before I
> can go to Germany I need the feeder.
>
> jue
>
>

Your request has not gone unnoticed. I saw your messages but don't
have anything to say that would help you. My only source for the
rondomatic is www.thatpetplace.com but it costs approximately 70-80
dollars (usa) which is not what you're looking for. I would love to
get one cheaper like you, it may very well be the best feeder out
there yet. Good luck and later!

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