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November 20th 05, 02:51 PM
Hi GF fans,
I'm having another brainstorm, and want to bounce it off of you. My
testing resulted in an amonia spike as well as a Nitrate spike, with
reasonable Nitrite levels. I got both under control with my recent change
out, but want a more permanent solution to the problem. I understand that
plants will take care of the remaining part of the nitrogen cycle. I also
know that my fish will eat the heck out of them, and just produce more
waste, breaking down into more amonia and aggravating the problem more.
Here is what I propose to do about it. Please tell me if you thing this
will work.
Create a second tank on a strong shelf above my main tank. Use some of the
water from my main tank to get it started when I do my next change out.
Keep this tank strictly for aquatic plants, and create a system to
circulate the water from one tank to the other in a loop. I figure an
overflow hole with hose connected will run the water from the upper
(plant) tank to the lower (main) tank. And a powerhead will supply the
upper (plant) tank with the nutrient rich water from the main tank. This
feeds the plants, and give the fish better water quality.
Hopefully!???????
I got this idea from watching the old man that lived next to me as a
child. He used to have 50 large tanks in his basement for breeding angel
fish, and this is how he kept his tanks clean and easy to manage. It also
made it possible for him to remove the fish without fighting the plants to
catch them. This seems like a great way to isolote the beneficial plants
from my vorocious GF's. And I can always clip a few pieces of for the boys
as a treat now and then.
Does anyone else use this system? If so, how well does it work? Are there
any unique problems that it creates? Are there any other benefits you
could see from doing this?

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With all due respect
Kevin

November 21st 05, 02:35 PM
As a ponder with lots of plants and goldfish.....it will work. Plants
do help lessen the nitrate levels....not all the way....I flush
(10%)the pond with dechlor water about once a month. There are tanks I
believe that can be added behind your current tank called
(refundum-????spelling)...mainly used for salt water. They use certain
muds, substrates(KoiClay) and plants to maintain water quality....just
an idea.
Larry
Carmichael/Sacramento

November 24th 05, 03:49 AM
Thanks for the input. I'm dying to try some of these ideas, but I have to
learn patience enough to establish the initial biofilter. I don't want to
move too fast and send old Sharky & Face to the eternal whirlpool. :)

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With all due respect
Kevin

swarvegorilla
December 25th 05, 02:30 PM
Vegetable filters (plants) do work well though.
I use several philadendrom species in my tanks.... adding the odd well
sprouted sweet potato has been quite successful too.
As far as nitrate eating goes I recon duckweed is the **** though. grows
like crazy.
I use duckweed treated water from a pond to do water changes on me goldy
breeder tank. WOrks well and means I can move eggs straight to fry savers in
da pond after a quick temp adjustment.
duckweed keeps my nitrates under 5ppm which for a pond that gets maybe a 50%
waterchange every 6 months isn't too bad at all!!


> wrote in message
...
> Thanks for the input. I'm dying to try some of these ideas, but I have to
> learn patience enough to establish the initial biofilter. I don't want to
> move too fast and send old Sharky & Face to the eternal whirlpool. :)
>
> --
> With all due respect
> Kevin

Koi-lo
December 25th 05, 05:23 PM
"swarvegorilla" > wrote in message
...
> Vegetable filters (plants) do work well though.
> I use several philadendrom species in my tanks.... adding the odd well
> sprouted sweet potato has been quite successful too.
> As far as nitrate eating goes I recon duckweed is the **** though. grows
> like crazy.
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My goldfish and koi consider duckweed a delicacy. It doesn't last more than
5 minutes in my ponds or tanks.
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December 26th 05, 03:35 AM
Thanks for the tips!
Should I use rooted philodendron, or just place cuttings directly in the
tank so they root in the same water?

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With all due respect
Kevin

December 27th 05, 09:43 PM
either way works. Ingrid

wrote:

>Thanks for the tips!
> Should I use rooted philodendron, or just place cuttings directly in the
> tank so they root in the same water?



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December 31st 05, 05:44 AM
Thanks again Ingrid! I just got a couple of cuttings today, and set them
promptly in a vase full of water at work. I figure, why not use the bosses
lighting and save a few bucks ;)

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