Tiny Adult Fish?

[Liz McGuire]

All,

So I've seen this thing called an AquaCube (by Tropica) and I like
it. It's a hair over 2g (US) and I'm wondering if there are any tiny
fishies that would fit in such a setup with a bunch of plants? I was
thinking maybe pygmy/sparkling gourami, but wasn't sure. Is there
anything smaller / better for having 1 or 2 in a little 2g tank?

(If there's nothing that would work (I don't want miserable cramped
fishies), that's OK (I can't even find a place to buy it in the US, so
I could probably forget the idea by the time I find a US source for
them).)

Thanks,

Liz

[Mean_Chlorine]

Thusly Liz McGuire > Spake Unto All:

>So I've seen this thing called an AquaCube (by Tropica) and I like
>it. It's a hair over 2g (US) and I'm wondering if there are any tiny
>fishies that would fit in such a setup

2G?
Nothing. Nothing at all.

[Empty]

On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 23:01:26 -0700, Liz McGuire wrote:

> So I've seen this thing called an AquaCube (by Tropica) and I like
> it. It's a hair over 2g (US) and I'm wondering if there are any tiny
> fishies that would fit in such a setup with a bunch of plants? I was
> thinking maybe pygmy/sparkling gourami, but wasn't sure. Is there
> anything smaller / better for having 1 or 2 in a little 2g tank?

Sparklers will work, one or two on that tank, assuming you have good
filtration, do healthy water changes, and can provide a warm
temperature(~80F) for them.

I have one in a 2.5G (which is a size commonly available here) and he's
doing great, I will be adding one or possibly two females as soon as I
find some in an LFS. If you are interested, the tank is viewable at:
http://www.emptiedout.com/2.5/

~Empty

[Justice]

Liz McGuire wrote:
> All,
>
> So I've seen this thing called an AquaCube (by Tropica) and I like
> it. It's a hair over 2g (US) and I'm wondering if there are any tiny
> fishies that would fit in such a setup with a bunch of plants? I was
> thinking maybe pygmy/sparkling gourami, but wasn't sure. Is there
> anything smaller / better for having 1 or 2 in a little 2g tank?
>
> (If there's nothing that would work (I don't want miserable cramped
> fishies), that's OK (I can't even find a place to buy it in the US, so
> I could probably forget the idea by the time I find a US source for
> them).)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Liz
I recomend tetras most are small fishies get 3 as the like to school. I
personaly like glowlight tetras.

[Mean_Chlorine]

Thusly Justice > Spake Unto All:

>I recomend tetras most are small fishies get 3 as the like to school. I
>personaly like glowlight tetras.

Seriously, I can't believe people actually recommend fish to a 2
gallon tank, much less active schooling fish like tetras.
For a 2 gallon - plants and snails. Possibly cherry shrimp. Not fish.
IMO. Even ignoring the small living space of the fish, it gets
progressively harder to keep the water fresh and the fish alive the
smaller the tank gets, and a 2 gallon will require a lot of
maintenance.

Go to 5-10 gallons and I'd recommend Endlers Guppy, least killifish,
and other small unassuming fish, and they'll stand a much better
chance of living.

[Larry Blanchard]

On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 11:08:58 -0700, Liz McGuire wrote:

> Daniel and Charles - I'll go do some research on killifish (I was already
> wondering about these).

I've seen lots of references to breeding killifish in a 1 or 2 gallon
tank. I'd go with the two gallon as a minimum and order a pair from one
of the reputable online suppliers. Even in a large city, the
chance of getting a pair at a pet store are slim and none

BTW, while most killies like low ph, there are a few that do fine in
7.0-7.5 and somewhat hard water. Do a Google.

The reason I know this is that I've just been looking into getting some
myself :-).

PS: live plants help stabilize the tank chemistry and give the shy killies
a feeling of security.

[Koi-lo]

"Liz McGuire" > wrote in message
...
> All,
>
> So I've seen this thing called an AquaCube (by Tropica) and I like
> it. It's a hair over 2g (US) and I'm wondering if there are any tiny
> fishies that would fit in such a setup with a bunch of plants? I was
> thinking maybe pygmy/sparkling gourami, but wasn't sure. Is there
> anything smaller / better for having 1 or 2 in a little 2g tank?
==========================
If the temp in the room will keep the water above 72 F a betta would do fine
in such a small tank. There are small heaters for such tanks but be very
careful as you set it as it can easily cook your fish. Better to set the
temp a few days BEFORE you add the fish.
--
Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995...
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://bellsouthpwp.net/s/h/shastadaisy
~~~ }<((((o> ~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~ }<(((((o>

[js1]

On 2005-11-21, Liz McGuire > wrote:
> All,
>
> So I've seen this thing called an AquaCube (by Tropica) and I like
> it. It's a hair over 2g (US) and I'm wondering if there are any tiny
> fishies that would fit in such a setup with a bunch of plants? I was
> thinking maybe pygmy/sparkling gourami, but wasn't sure. Is there
> anything smaller / better for having 1 or 2 in a little 2g tank?
>

You may only be able to fit one sparkling gourami in there...

http://www.aquahobby.com/gallery/e_sparkling.php

Other small fish include...

Dwarf Pencilfish: http://www.aquahobby.com/gallery/e_pencil2.php
Exclamation Point Rasbora: http://tinyurl.com/86f35
Jellybean Tetras: http://tinyurl.com/cq92k

A school should probably be in at least a 10G tank.

--
"I have to decide between two equally frightening options.
If I wanted to do that, I'd vote." --Duckman

[Liz McGuire]

Thanks everyone!

Daniel and Charles - I'll go do some research on killifish (I was
already wondering about these).

Empty - That's a very nice tank! I've never heard of sparklers (as
fish, anyway)... Off I go to research...

js1 - have your links open now and will go read right after I post.

Koi-lo - I thought about a betta, but with no top for these things and
the fact that I've got a betta already (in a 6g), I'm hoping for
something else...

Justice - Tetras would look beautiful, but I worry about them in
smaller groups... Hopefully there's some tiny creature out there that
doesn't mind being alone or only having one buddy... (Yes, I know,
betta fits that description...)

Mean_Chlorine - I will carefully consider what you said. I have no
problems with doing frequent maintenance - I would expect to on such a
small tank. And I'm concerned, as you are, about the suitability for
fish (hence my post). I thought about a little shrimp too - thanks
for suggesting it (hmm, would a shrimp crawl out? these things have no
top). I've also thought even just the plants would be nice - could
keep it at work with just plants and it would make my desk look much
nicer.

I will research the suggestions and carefully consider everyone's
advice and if I decide to get the tank (and can find it!), I'll set it
up and stabilize it for at least several weeks before deciding on fish
(or other critters, if any (having it set up so I can see exactly what
kind of home it would be will likely help in the critter decision)).

Thanks,

Liz

PS: I know a larger tank would comfortably house a larger number /
greater variety of fish, however, in this case, it's not that I want
fish and need a home for them, it's that I want the home and am
wondering about fish for it. :-)

[Justice]

Mean_Chlorine wrote:
> Thusly Justice > Spake Unto All:
>
>
>>I recomend tetras most are small fishies get 3 as the like to school. I
>>personaly like glowlight tetras.
>
>
> Seriously, I can't believe people actually recommend fish to a 2
> gallon tank, much less active schooling fish like tetras.
> For a 2 gallon - plants and snails. Possibly cherry shrimp. Not fish.
> IMO. Even ignoring the small living space of the fish, it gets
> progressively harder to keep the water fresh and the fish alive the
> smaller the tank gets, and a 2 gallon will require a lot of
> maintenance.
>
> Go to 5-10 gallons and I'd recommend Endlers Guppy, least killifish,
> and other small unassuming fish, and they'll stand a much better
> chance of living.
>
>
I've read many places that 1" fish to 1 gal. their for 3 1" fish is not
to over stocked. and if you read other posts pepole use them. I would
relly only say get one but that is more crule.

[Empty]

On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 11:08:58 -0700, Liz McGuire wrote:

> Empty - That's a very nice tank! I've never heard of sparklers (as
> fish, anyway)... Off I go to research...

I was referring to sparkling gouramis, aka trichopsis pumilis :)

> Mean_Chlorine - I will carefully consider what you said. I have no
> problems with doing frequent maintenance - I would expect to on such a
> small tank.

I do 2+ quart water changes once or twice a week on my 2.5G. I
telecommute, so conference calls are water change times for me. I have 2
pitchers, one is taller than the tank so I set up a siphon from the tank
to that one, then I siphon new water into the filter with an air hose to
avoid mucking up the gravel too badly.

> fish (hence my post). I thought about a little shrimp too - thanks for
> suggesting it (hmm, would a shrimp crawl out? these things have no top).

I have an amano in mine and he seems very happy.

~Empty

[Liz McGuire]

Empty wrote:
>
> I was referring to sparkling gouramis, aka trichopsis pumilis :)

Figured that out when I went to read one of js1's links - I really
want a few of these - even if it's later with a community tank.

Thanks again,

Liz

[js1]

On 2005-11-21, Liz McGuire > wrote:
>
> Figured that out when I went to read one of js1's links - I really
> want a few of these - even if it's later with a community tank.
>

Unless there's a lot of room and some good hiding places, the males
will fight. I had four in a 10G. When it was thickly planted,
they did alright. When my lighting started to go, and I trimmed
the plants, two of them ended up dying. I eventually split up the
remaining two.


--
"I have to decide between two equally frightening options.
If I wanted to do that, I'd vote." --Duckman

[Tynk]

Liz McGuire wrote:
> All,
>
> So I've seen this thing called an AquaCube (by Tropica) and I like
> it. It's a hair over 2g (US) and I'm wondering if there are any tiny
> fishies that would fit in such a setup with a bunch of plants? I was
> thinking maybe pygmy/sparkling gourami, but wasn't sure. Is there
> anything smaller / better for having 1 or 2 in a little 2g tank?
>
> (If there's nothing that would work (I don't want miserable cramped
> fishies), that's OK (I can't even find a place to buy it in the US, so
> I could probably forget the idea by the time I find a US source for
> them).)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Liz
Well Liz....
A 2g tank can be ok for 1 Betta...male or female, Killifish (as already
stated) or maybe 2-3 Pygmy Cories.
It'snot even large enough to house 1 African Dwarf Frog (which
shouldn't be kept singly anyway).

[Mean_Chlorine]

Thusly Justice > Spake Unto All:

>I've read many places that 1" fish to 1 gal. their for 3 1" fish is not
>to over stocked. and if you read other posts pepole use them. I would
>relly only say get one but that is more crule.

It's not that it's overstocked (although that rule of thumb is not
intended to be used like that). It's that a 2 gallon tank goes bad in
a couple of hours if you overfeed. It has no margins of error.

Yes, an experienced aquarist can keep fish alive in small tanks like
these, especially air-breathers like anabantids (bettas & gouramies)
although it takes quite a bit of maintenance.
An inexperienced aquarist however will just kill a bunch of fish, buy
medications, kill more fish, get annoyed, and quit the hobby.

This is basically a variant of that excellent tool for slowkilling
fish through poisoning and asphyxiation we've probably all tried at
the start of our careers: the goldfish bowl.

Now, a ten gallon tank, that's a completely different story. Much
easier maintenance, much more forgiving to a beginner aquarists due to
larger margins of error. Even a 5 gallon is viable.

If the OP would still like to go with the 2G, my advice, like I said,
is cherry shrimp. http://www.azgardens.com/images/shrimp_cherry.jpg
4-10 of them.

Other shrimp work too, as would one apple snail, but cherries are
small & colorful & may even breed.

[Liz McGuire]

Thanks for the info js1. I wouldn't dream of putting more than two in
a little 2g, and that would have to be a male and a female. At this
point, if anything live goes into the tank (which may never be a
reality anyway), the "least killifish" (which stays under 1") is
looking like the best bet.

I'll save the sparkling gourami for another tank and make sure it's
also well planted with plenty of places to hide and room for everyone.

Thanks,

Liz


js1 wrote:
>
> Unless there's a lot of room and some good hiding places, the males
> will fight. I had four in a 10G. When it was thickly planted,
> they did alright. When my lighting started to go, and I trimmed
> the plants, two of them ended up dying. I eventually split up the
> remaining two.

[Liz McGuire]

I appreciate you sticking to your guns. FWIW, I wouldn't put fish (or
even shrimp) into this setup until I felt comfortable that it was
stable and that I had a good plan for keeping the environment
healthy. I've also decided that the killifish is the only fish to
consider in this setup (probably 2 so it's wouldn't be so lonely).
These stay under 1" from what I've read, so they shouldn't be cramped.

Regarding the shrimp - I do like the cherry shrimp as they've got some
color (which the killifish don't really). Do you know if they would
crawl out (that's my biggest concern with shrimp - floating plants
might help keep the fishies in, but would it (or anything short of a
lid) keep the shrimp in - or is this not a concern with these shrimp)?

Again, I haven't decided on anything for sure and can't even find a US
source for these (and may never find one), so at this point, it's
kinda like planning your dream home - it's nice to think about. I'm
just getting everyone's input, just in case...

Thanks,

Liz


Mean_Chlorine wrote:
>
> It's not that it's overstocked (although that rule of thumb is not
> intended to be used like that). It's that a 2 gallon tank goes bad in
> a couple of hours if you overfeed. It has no margins of error.
>
> Yes, an experienced aquarist can keep fish alive in small tanks like
> these, especially air-breathers like anabantids (bettas & gouramies)
> although it takes quite a bit of maintenance.
> An inexperienced aquarist however will just kill a bunch of fish, buy
> medications, kill more fish, get annoyed, and quit the hobby.
>
> This is basically a variant of that excellent tool for slowkilling
> fish through poisoning and asphyxiation we've probably all tried at
> the start of our careers: the goldfish bowl.
>
> Now, a ten gallon tank, that's a completely different story. Much
> easier maintenance, much more forgiving to a beginner aquarists due to
> larger margins of error. Even a 5 gallon is viable.
>
> If the OP would still like to go with the 2G, my advice, like I said,
> is cherry shrimp. http://www.azgardens.com/images/shrimp_cherry.jpg
> 4-10 of them.
>
> Other shrimp work too, as would one apple snail, but cherries are
> small & colorful & may even breed.

[Charles]

On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 17:06:50 -0700, Liz McGuire
> wrote:

>I appreciate you sticking to your guns. FWIW, I wouldn't put fish (or
>even shrimp) into this setup until I felt comfortable that it was
>stable and that I had a good plan for keeping the environment
>healthy. I've also decided that the killifish is the only fish to
>consider in this setup (probably 2 so it's wouldn't be so lonely).
>These stay under 1" from what I've read, so they shouldn't be cramped.
>
>Regarding the shrimp - I do like the cherry shrimp as they've got some
>color (which the killifish don't really). Do you know if they would
>crawl out (that's my biggest concern with shrimp - floating plants
>might help keep the fishies in, but would it (or anything short of a
>lid) keep the shrimp in - or is this not a concern with these shrimp)?
>
>Again, I haven't decided on anything for sure and can't even find a US
>source for these (and may never find one), so at this point, it's
>kinda like planning your dream home - it's nice to think about. I'm
>just getting everyone's input, just in case...
>
>Thanks,
>
>Liz
>
If you put a paid of heteranda formosa in there, you will have more
that two shortly. I had a colony of about a dozen in one of my 2.5G
tanks.

I have a lid, 13W lamp, Aquaclear 20 filter, substrate, just like a
big tank. Oh, and plants as well. I don't see the small tank being
such a problem as long as you keep the bioload light.

for suppliers, have you checked aquabid? good place.

[Liz McGuire]

Charles wrote:
>
> If you put a paid of heteranda formosa in there, you will have more
> that two shortly. I had a colony of about a dozen in one of my 2.5G
> tanks.

Well, this is good to know - guess I should have expected that as
they're live-bearers. I'll take that into consideration (e.g. plan on
having some in another tank, or something...).

> I have a lid, 13W lamp, Aquaclear 20 filter, substrate, just like a
> big tank. Oh, and plants as well. I don't see the small tank being
> such a problem as long as you keep the bioload light.
>
> for suppliers, have you checked aquabid? good place.

I haven't - keep seeing it and meaning to go there and then forget...
OK, there, I've just pulled it up, will check it after I finish
reading.

Maybe I'll ponder a make-shift lid for this thing (as long as I'm
dreaming anyway <g>).

Thanks,

Liz

[srb]

Pygmy corys? They stay less than an inch (or at least mine have).

Scottie

"Liz McGuire" > wrote in message
...
> All,
>
> So I've seen this thing called an AquaCube (by Tropica) and I like
> it. It's a hair over 2g (US) and I'm wondering if there are any tiny
> fishies that would fit in such a setup with a bunch of plants? I was
> thinking maybe pygmy/sparkling gourami, but wasn't sure. Is there
> anything smaller / better for having 1 or 2 in a little 2g tank?
>
> (If there's nothing that would work (I don't want miserable cramped
> fishies), that's OK (I can't even find a place to buy it in the US, so
> I could probably forget the idea by the time I find a US source for
> them).)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Liz

[Larry Blanchard]

On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 17:06:50 -0700, Liz McGuire wrote:

> Regarding the shrimp - I do like the cherry shrimp as they've got some
> color (which the killifish don't really).

Killifish don't have color??? They're about the most brilliantly colored
freshwater fish there is. Yes, there are a few drab ones, but they're in
the minority. Look some more. Except for the few that get over 2",
you've got lots of choices.

BTW, I've about decided against getting some. Apparently they're quite
inactive. Don't move much. If what I read is erroneous, sombody please
correct me.

[Eric]

On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 00:34:57 -0600, Mean_Chlorine wrote
(in article >):

> Thusly Liz McGuire > Spake Unto All:
>
>> So I've seen this thing called an AquaCube (by Tropica) and I like
>> it. It's a hair over 2g (US) and I'm wondering if there are any tiny
>> fishies that would fit in such a setup
>
> 2G?
> Nothing. Nothing at all.


Hey! I've kept two white clouds in a 1.5 gal quite well for over a year now.

-E

[Daniel Morrow]

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> On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 00:34:57 -0600, Mean_Chlorine wrote
> (in article >):
>
> > Thusly Liz McGuire > Spake Unto All:
> >
> >> So I've seen this thing called an AquaCube (by Tropica) and I
like
> >> it. It's a hair over 2g (US) and I'm wondering if there are any
tiny
> >> fishies that would fit in such a setup
> >
> > 2G?
> > Nothing. Nothing at all.
>
>
> Hey! I've kept two white clouds in a 1.5 gal quite well for over a
year now.
>
> -E
>

I did wonder if white clouds would be appropriate - I think you are
right that they are, thanks for pointing that out, later!

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[Mean_Chlorine]

Thusly Liz McGuire > Spake Unto All:

>Regarding the shrimp - I do like the cherry shrimp as they've got some
>color (which the killifish don't really). Do you know if they would
>crawl out

Crawl out, no. They might jump, shrimp are quite decent jumpers, but
floating plants would help to prevent that.

>Again, I haven't decided on anything for sure and can't even find a US
>source for these

It depends on where you are, of course, but cherry shrimp (and other
small colorful shrimp) are reasonably common in the trade.

[Mean_Chlorine]

Thusly "Daniel Morrow" > Spake Unto All:

>> > Nothing. Nothing at all.
>>
>> Hey! I've kept two white clouds in a 1.5 gal quite well for over a
>year now.

They're 1.5" *extremely* active fish. No, they're not suitable. They
might live, you can keep anything which physically fits in the tank
alive if you do frequent enough water changes, but that doesn't make
the fish suitable for the tank. Or rather the tank suitable for the
fish.

[Larry Blanchard]

On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 11:25:02 -0700, Liz McGuire wrote:

> I too would be interested in knowing whether they're not terribly active -
> that would actually be an argument in favor of keeping them in a 2g cube
> (they wouldn't be bouncing off the walls (like danios, e.g.)).

Liz look at:

http://www.aquarticles.com/articles/breeding/Mckinnon_killifish_for%20_dummies.html

A "10 liter" tank for a trio sounds like a pair in a 2 gallon tank would
work just fine.

A good place for killie pictures is:

http://www.killi.co.uk/latest.php

I especially like Fundulopanchax gardneri nigerianus.

The inactivity opinion was from a magazine quite a while back.

[Liz McGuire]

Mean_Chlorine wrote:
>
> Crawl out, no. They might jump, shrimp are quite decent jumpers, but
> floating plants would help to prevent that.

Ah, OK, good to know. If I decide to put some kind of critter (fish,
shrimp, whatever) in there, I'll see if I can design a pseudo lid for
it (perhaps out of some kind of screen or mesh) which could be used
when I'm not around.

> >Again, I haven't decided on anything for sure and can't even find a US
> >source for these
>
> It depends on where you are, of course, but cherry shrimp (and other
> small colorful shrimp) are reasonably common in the trade.

Sorry, I meant the AquaCube - they're made in Denmark (or the company
that has them made (Tropica) is) - can't find a US dealer online
(well, there's one place linked from Topica's site, but they don't
list this specific product, so I'd have to contact them to see if they
can get it).

Thanks for the info.

Liz

[Liz McGuire]

Sorry, I should have been more specific. The "least killifish"
(Heterandria formosa), which we've been discussing as a potential
resident in my potential cube, isn't that colorful - basically brown.
Not that that's bad - fish don't have to be colorful to be enjoyable -
it's just a fact. From what I've read, these particular fish could be
very enjoyable (and if I put two in, my cube would have a regular
colony in short order <g>).

I too would be interested in knowing whether they're not terribly
active - that would actually be an argument in favor of keeping them
in a 2g cube (they wouldn't be bouncing off the walls (like danios,
e.g.)).

Thanks,

Liz


Larry Blanchard wrote:
>
> Killifish don't have color??? They're about the most brilliantly colored
> freshwater fish there is.

[NetMax]

"Liz McGuire" > wrote in message
...
> All,
>
> So I've seen this thing called an AquaCube (by Tropica) and I like
> it. It's a hair over 2g (US) and I'm wondering if there are any tiny
> fishies that would fit in such a setup with a bunch of plants? I was
> thinking maybe pygmy/sparkling gourami, but wasn't sure. Is there
> anything smaller / better for having 1 or 2 in a little 2g tank?
>
> (If there's nothing that would work (I don't want miserable cramped
> fishies), that's OK (I can't even find a place to buy it in the US, so
> I could probably forget the idea by the time I find a US source for
> them).)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Liz

A little unorthodox, but a cup of water from your local swamp will fill
your tank with a variety of aquatic bugs and insect larvae which should
be far more amusing than watching a fish swim from one end to the other,
and lower maintenance. If you think I'm kidding, imagine watching these
little bugs eating growing and multiplying. If the culture thins out,
grab another cup of water to re-start it. If you want a miniature slice
of life, then you need miniature life. Just don't forget to put a screen
on top (did I mention flying insect larvae? ;~)
--
www.NetMax.tk

[Empty]

On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 22:05:19 -0500, NetMax wrote:

> A little unorthodox, but a cup of water from your local swamp will fill
> your tank with a variety of aquatic bugs and insect larvae which should
> be far more amusing than watching a fish swim from one end to the other,
> and lower maintenance.

Awesome idea! now I just need to find a swamp local to Phoenix AZ.

> If you think I'm kidding, imagine watching these
> little bugs eating growing and multiplying. If the culture thins out,
> grab another cup of water to re-start it. If you want a miniature slice
> of life, then you need miniature life. Just don't forget to put a screen
> on top (did I mention flying insect larvae? ;~)

If you make this mistake, or do something equally idiotic like, say,
bringing home maggots from work(long story) to feed geckos then getting
lazy and leaving the maggots to pupate, most flying insects can be taken
care of by turning the AC as cold as you can for an hour or so. This slows
down their metabolism so they will land and stay where they land. Then you
can vacuum them up easily. Just be sure to toss the bag immediately ;)

~Empty

[Liz McGuire]

Yes, well, did you see the part where it doesn't come with a lid? <g>
Of course, making one wouldn't be unheard of (wait, didn't someone
mention that already <vbg>

Now, let's see, where would one find a swamp in Utah... <g> And no, I
can't go get brine shrimp from the lake - it's illegal (seems some
business has paid for the privilege)! :-(

But as long as it's still a dream house, I'll consider the *creepy*
crawlies...

Liz


NetMax wrote:
>
> Just don't forget to put a screen
> on top (did I mention flying insect larvae? ;~)
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[Liz McGuire]

Man! I thought *I* was gonna have a hard time... <g>

Liz


Empty wrote:
>
> Awesome idea! now I just need to find a swamp local to Phoenix AZ.
>

[Eric]

On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 06:35:13 -0600, Mean_Chlorine wrote
(in article >):

> Thusly "Daniel Morrow" > Spake Unto All:
>
>>>> Nothing. Nothing at all.
>>>
>>> Hey! I've kept two white clouds in a 1.5 gal quite well for over a
>> year now.
>
> They're 1.5" *extremely* active fish. No, they're not suitable. They
> might live, you can keep anything which physically fits in the tank
> alive if you do frequent enough water changes, but that doesn't make
> the fish suitable for the tank. Or rather the tank suitable for the
> fish.
>

The tank has a nano-filter that turns the water over many times per hour, a
compact florescent light, live plants and i take a pint of water out and top
off about every three days. They use the current from the filter as a kind of
treadmill, so they get plenty of exercise. I feed them a couple of dried
bloodworms every morning, and a tiny pinch of flakes at night. On sundays I
thaw out a few brine shrimp and carefully dangle them one at a time in the
water so that no uneaten shrimp will foul the water. My fish are as brightly
colored as any I have seen on a a website or in a book. My male does his
spawning dance every day, but does not harass the female and I even believe
that they have spawned a few times. I think I lost the babies to the filter.

I hope soon to set up a 55 gal just for white clouds and otos. I have most of
the equipment already and my two little fishies will soon have a great big
mansion and lots of new friends. But until that time I assure you my fish are
in excellent health. i know what I'm doing.

I do agree that small tanks can have big problems, especially for beginners.
At least I'm not trying to keep a goldfish in that thing.

-E

[Dan Abel]

In article >,
Liz McGuire > wrote:

> All,
>
> So I've seen this thing called an AquaCube (by Tropica) and I like
> it. It's a hair over 2g (US) and I'm wondering if there are any tiny
> fishies that would fit in such a setup with a bunch of plants? I was
> thinking maybe pygmy/sparkling gourami, but wasn't sure. Is there
> anything smaller / better for having 1 or 2 in a little 2g tank?
>
> (If there's nothing that would work (I don't want miserable cramped
> fishies), that's OK (I can't even find a place to buy it in the US, so
> I could probably forget the idea by the time I find a US source for
> them).)

I'm fond of neon tetras and you could easily fit 3 in here. However, I
note that it is just intended for plants and has no heater, and no top.

Some one else suggested white clouds. I don't know how they would do
with no top, but they can live without a heater if it doesn't get too
cold where you keep this.

--
Dan Abel

Petaluma, California, USA

[A Man]

White Cloud Mountain minnow adults get 1" max. Guppies up to 1 1/4" max.

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[Mean_Chlorine]

Thusly A Man > Spake Unto All:

>White Cloud Mountain minnow adults get 1" max.

No.
http://www.fishbase.se/Summary/speciesSummary.php?ID=4758