red algae sucks, man

[Billy]

It's the kind that forms a nice smooth sheet across the, sand, you
know what I'm talking about. All I have in the tank is a large
Snowflake eel, a choc chip star, some astreus snails and a few
hermits. It's a 72g bowfront with plain flourescent lighting, since I
have no plans to add corals of any kind. The coraline is growing
nicely on the glass and LR, but the red algae (I'm assuming it's
cyano) is overtaking things. What are the main things I should be
looking into?


billy

[George]

"Billy" > wrote in message
...
> It's the kind that forms a nice smooth sheet across the, sand, you know
> what I'm talking about. All I have in the tank is a large Snowflake eel,
> a choc chip star, some astreus snails and a few hermits. It's a 72g
> bowfront with plain flourescent lighting, since I have no plans to add
> corals of any kind. The coraline is growing nicely on the glass and LR,
> but the red algae (I'm assuming it's cyano) is overtaking things. What
> are the main things I should be looking into?
>
>
> billy

Nitrates, and phosphorus, primarily. Regular partial water changes should
largely reduce the concentrations. And don't overfeed. Over time it
should go away with regular tank maintenance. Good luck.

George

[George Patterson]

George wrote:

> Nitrates, and phosphorus, primarily. Regular partial water changes should
> largely reduce the concentrations.

And check the concentrations in the raw water you're using. If you have RO, of
course, there will be none, but phosphates in particular can be quite high in
tap water.

George Patterson
We don't stop playing because we grow old. We grow old because we stop
playing.

[George]

"George Patterson" > wrote in message
news:uawhf.9836$RI5.2454@trndny09...
> George wrote:
>
>> Nitrates, and phosphorus, primarily. Regular partial water changes
>> should largely reduce the concentrations.
>
> And check the concentrations in the raw water you're using. If you have
> RO, of course, there will be none, but phosphates in particular can be
> quite high in tap water.
>
> George Patterson
> We don't stop playing because we grow old. We grow old because we
> stop
> playing.

Yes, that is true.

George(the other one)

P.S. my grandmother was a Patterson, from Kentucky

[George Patterson]

George wrote:

> P.S. my grandmother was a Patterson, from Kentucky

Probably not closely related. My family comes from Catawba County in North
Carolina, though we've spread out in the last few generations.

George Patterson
We don't stop playing because we grow old. We grow old because we stop
playing.

[Billy]

"George Patterson" > wrote in message
news:uawhf.9836$RI5.2454@trndny09...

>> Nitrates, and phosphorus, primarily. Regular partial water
>> changes should largely reduce the concentrations.

Phosphorus detected. Damn.

>
> And check the concentrations in the raw water you're using. If you
> have RO, of course, there will be none, but phosphates in
> particular can be quite high in tap water.

RO water. Just checked the water right out of the RO unit.
Phosphates. Membrane shouldn't be exhausted yet, damn. I really need
a TDS meter.


Thanks.

billy

[George]

"George Patterson" > wrote in message
news:imwhf.25258$%%5.18413@trndny06...
> George wrote:
>
>> P.S. my grandmother was a Patterson, from Kentucky
>
> Probably not closely related. My family comes from Catawba County in
> North Carolina, though we've spread out in the last few generations.
>
> George Patterson
> We don't stop playing because we grow old. We grow old because we
> stop
> playing.

Just curious. My brother has been doing a very extensive web geneology of
our family, all except the Pattersons, which, unfortunately, we don't know
a lot about yet. My grandmother's name was Lizzie Mae Patterson. She was
born on 11 Jun 1879 in Hardin Co. Ky. She died on 14 Oct 1957 in Hardin
County KY. Most of my family came to Kentucky via Virginia and Maryland,
though I understand that some of the family also moved to North Carolina
from those two states. Although Patterson is a relatively common name, a
lot of these English and Irish names here in the states originated from a
few individuals who arrived here, and some, just one person. For instance,
the name Yates (my last name) apparently originates from one man who
arrived from England sometime in the early 18th century. He is probably
the ancestor of most of the more than 4 million Yates's in the U.S. who can
trace their heritage to colonial days. Talk about prolific genes! If you
are interested in browsing around to see if you recognize any names, here
is my brother's web site:

http://www.yatesandmore.com/

Last time I talked to my brother, he said he had some more information on
the Pattersons, but hasn't had time to put it all together.

George

[George]

"Billy" > wrote in message
...
>
> "George Patterson" > wrote in message
> news:uawhf.9836$RI5.2454@trndny09...
>
>>> Nitrates, and phosphorus, primarily. Regular partial water changes
>>> should largely reduce the concentrations.
>
> Phosphorus detected. Damn.

That would likely do it.

>>
>> And check the concentrations in the raw water you're using. If you have
>> RO, of course, there will be none, but phosphates in particular can be
>> quite high in tap water.
>
> RO water. Just checked the water right out of the RO unit. Phosphates.
> Membrane shouldn't be exhausted yet, damn. I really need a TDS meter.
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> billy
>

Sure thing. Glad I could help.

George

[gbnw28178]

Red algae is the bain of a marine fish keepers nightmare. I saw one of the
best display tanks in the UK ruined in 12w months because of red algae

--
http://www.garybolton.co.uk


"Billy" > wrote in message
...
> It's the kind that forms a nice smooth sheet across the, sand, you know
> what I'm talking about. All I have in the tank is a large Snowflake eel, a
> choc chip star, some astreus snails and a few hermits. It's a 72g bowfront
> with plain flourescent lighting, since I have no plans to add corals of
> any kind. The coraline is growing nicely on the glass and LR, but the red
> algae (I'm assuming it's cyano) is overtaking things. What are the main
> things I should be looking into?
>
>
> billy
>

[Wilbur Slice]

On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 19:56:16 -0800, "Billy"
> wrote:

>It's the kind that forms a nice smooth sheet across the, sand, you
>know what I'm talking about. All I have in the tank is a large
>Snowflake eel, a choc chip star, some astreus snails and a few
>hermits. It's a 72g bowfront with plain flourescent lighting, since I
>have no plans to add corals of any kind. The coraline is growing
>nicely on the glass and LR, but the red algae (I'm assuming it's
>cyano) is overtaking things. What are the main things I should be
>looking into?
>
>
>billy


I had red algae in my 54-gal reef tank REALLY bad, and couldn't get
rid of it. I tried this stuff called Boyd Chemi-Clean (google for
it), and it worked amazingly well. I had almost no red alge within a
few days, and no apparent harmfil side effects to anything else in my
tank.

[zir©on]

Some brands of falke foods accelerate it as does some petted feed. Cut
back on feeding amounts and frequency for a few days. I find it does
not grow where there is good current flow, but that may be false
security since it just gets blown elsewhere. You can also get
phosphate sponges that do a good job at removing any phosphates that
may be adding to it, as well as do a few more frequent water
changes....I have a container of ChemiClean but have yet to have to
use it. Seems mine was eliminated with water changes and phospate
sponge use and no longer using the flaked food I had been feeding.
I do use RODI water.


On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 10:07:00 -0600, Wilbur Slice
> wrote:

>===<>On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 19:56:16 -0800, "Billy"
> wrote:
>===<>
>===<>>It's the kind that forms a nice smooth sheet across the, sand, you
>===<>>know what I'm talking about. All I have in the tank is a large
>===<>>Snowflake eel, a choc chip star, some astreus snails and a few
>===<>>hermits. It's a 72g bowfront with plain flourescent lighting, since I
>===<>>have no plans to add corals of any kind. The coraline is growing
>===<>>nicely on the glass and LR, but the red algae (I'm assuming it's
>===<>>cyano) is overtaking things. What are the main things I should be
>===<>>looking into?
>===<>>
>===<>>
>===<>>billy
>===<>
>===<>
>===<>I had red algae in my 54-gal reef tank REALLY bad, and couldn't get
>===<>rid of it. I tried this stuff called Boyd Chemi-Clean (google for
>===<>it), and it worked amazingly well. I had almost no red alge within a
>===<>few days, and no apparent harmfil side effects to anything else in my
>===<>tank.
>===<>
>===<>

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[TheRock]

Cyanobacteria, it's everywhere, you can't get rid of it.
Just control it.

1. Too much nutrients in the water....overstocked tank, too much food etc.
2. Too much light...(Only leave light on for 7 - 8 hours)
3. Water flow...get rid of dead areas
4. Get some red and blue legged hermit crabs, they'll munch a bit.

Check out the articles on Cyanobacteria on wetwebmedia.com
Awesome site with lots of info.

It's NOT Algae....

Chris




"Billy" > wrote in message
...
> It's the kind that forms a nice smooth sheet across the, sand, you know
> what I'm talking about. All I have in the tank is a large Snowflake eel, a
> choc chip star, some astreus snails and a few hermits. It's a 72g bowfront
> with plain flourescent lighting, since I have no plans to add corals of
> any kind. The coraline is growing nicely on the glass and LR, but the red
> algae (I'm assuming it's cyano) is overtaking things. What are the main
> things I should be looking into?
>
>
> billy
>

[Roy]

I found 99% of my red algae went away when I stopped feeding any flake
type food.......I did a massive water change, after syphoning ut what
I could, and usuing a tooth brush to clean off rocks etc, ran filter
(hob AC110 used for mechanical removal of detrius) fitted with a fine
mesh bag over a micro sponge to collect larger pieces and clumps
removed during brushing of rock, did the water change and within 2
days it was gone.....I also have a few asterinia stars that appear to
consume the cyano from what I can tell, as well as a cerith snail
seems to eat it.
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[Susan]

Just remember when using Boyd Chemi-Clean you need to remove and replace
some of the water after treatment. Great stuff though!!

Susan :)
"Roy" > wrote in message
...
>I found 99% of my red algae went away when I stopped feeding any flake
> type food.......I did a massive water change, after syphoning ut what
> I could, and usuing a tooth brush to clean off rocks etc, ran filter
> (hob AC110 used for mechanical removal of detrius) fitted with a fine
> mesh bag over a micro sponge to collect larger pieces and clumps
> removed during brushing of rock, did the water change and within 2
> days it was gone.....I also have a few asterinia stars that appear to
> consume the cyano from what I can tell, as well as a cerith snail
> seems to eat it.
> --
> \\\|///
> ( @ @ )
> -----------oOOo(_)oOOo---------------
>
>
> oooO
> ---------( )----Oooo----------------
> \ ( ( )
> \_) ) /
> (_/
> The original frugal ponder! Koi-ahoi mates....

[~Roy]

I had purchased an emerald crab, not that I needed it for bubble
algae etc, just because they are neat, and I was amazed to see it set
there hours on end cleaning off my liverock orf algae, red slime algae
included..It did a wonderfull job at clenaing a lot of it up....But I
still contribute any red algae problems to feeding flake food......Ask
around at various lfs, they are usually more than happy to give you
any asterina stars they find in their tanks.....

On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 17:05:43 GMT, "Susan" >
wrote:

>===<>Just remember when using Boyd Chemi-Clean you need to remove and replace
>===<>some of the water after treatment. Great stuff though!!
>===<>
>===<>Susan :)
>===<>"Roy" > wrote in message
...
>===<>>I found 99% of my red algae went away when I stopped feeding any flake
>===<>> type food.......I did a massive water change, after syphoning ut what
>===<>> I could, and usuing a tooth brush to clean off rocks etc, ran filter
>===<>> (hob AC110 used for mechanical removal of detrius) fitted with a fine
>===<>> mesh bag over a micro sponge to collect larger pieces and clumps
>===<>> removed during brushing of rock, did the water change and within 2
>===<>> days it was gone.....I also have a few asterinia stars that appear to
>===<>> consume the cyano from what I can tell, as well as a cerith snail
>===<>> seems to eat it.
>===<>> --
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>===<>> The original frugal ponder! Koi-ahoi mates....
>===<>

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