Quarantining Question

[fish lover]

I don't have a QT tank set up and I want to add some fish to my
existing tank.

What other options do I have? Set up a QT tank is out of the question.

Thanks

[Jim Anderson]

In article >,
says...
> I don't have a QT tank set up and I want to add some fish to my
> existing tank.
>
> What other options do I have? Set up a QT tank is out of the question.
>
> Thanks
>

For freshwater fish, dip them into a bowl with near salt water salinity.
It stresses the fish, but is deadly for the small parasites that
literally burst from the different osmotic pressure.

I am not sure about how long to dip fish, something around a minute
rings a bell.

This does not help for diseases, just parasites.

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Jim Anderson
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[Koi-lo]

"fish lover" > wrote in message
...
>I don't have a QT tank set up and I want to add some fish to my
> existing tank.
>
> What other options do I have? Set up a QT tank is out of the question.
================================
All you really need to quarantine fish is a sweater box big enough to hold
about 5 to 8 gallons of water. Get them at K-Mart or Wal*Mart, and a cheap
airpump with a air driven filter box. This should run you around $30 and
last a lifetime. Fill the filter box with gravel from your established
tank. Use water from your established also. Watch for an ammonia or
nitrite spike. It's the safest way to add fish to an established tank or
pond. If the fish show with some disease it's also easier and cheaper to
treat them in a Q-tank than in an established aquarium and it doesn't spread
to your other fish. Do not use the SAME net for both tanks. Assume the new
fish have "something" and keep everything separate.
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Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995...
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[fish lover]

On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 19:39:10 GMT, Jim Anderson
> wrote:
Thanks, sounds like what I can do. How much salt do I need to put in
per G of water?


>In article >,
says...
>> I don't have a QT tank set up and I want to add some fish to my
>> existing tank.
>>
>> What other options do I have? Set up a QT tank is out of the question.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>
>For freshwater fish, dip them into a bowl with near salt water salinity.
>It stresses the fish, but is deadly for the small parasites that
>literally burst from the different osmotic pressure.
>
>I am not sure about how long to dip fish, something around a minute
>rings a bell.
>
>This does not help for diseases, just parasites.

[fish lover]

On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 15:34:19 -0600, "Koi-lo" >
wrote:
Thanks. It's not the money. I have a limited space and my wife would
not want another tank in the house. I have a 125 g tank taking up some
space already, plus two big dogs, a pound outside AND a 5 yeard old
son. I think adding one more thing is going to tip her over the edge.
>
>"fish lover" > wrote in message
...
>>I don't have a QT tank set up and I want to add some fish to my
>> existing tank.
>>
>> What other options do I have? Set up a QT tank is out of the question.
>================================
>All you really need to quarantine fish is a sweater box big enough to hold
>about 5 to 8 gallons of water. Get them at K-Mart or Wal*Mart, and a cheap
>airpump with a air driven filter box. This should run you around $30 and
>last a lifetime. Fill the filter box with gravel from your established
>tank. Use water from your established also. Watch for an ammonia or
>nitrite spike. It's the safest way to add fish to an established tank or
>pond. If the fish show with some disease it's also easier and cheaper to
>treat them in a Q-tank than in an established aquarium and it doesn't spread
>to your other fish. Do not use the SAME net for both tanks. Assume the new
>fish have "something" and keep everything separate.

[Koi-lo]

"fish lover" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 15:34:19 -0600, "Koi-lo" >
> wrote:
> Thanks. It's not the money. I have a limited space and my wife would
> not want another tank in the house. I have a 125 g tank taking up some
> space already, plus two big dogs, a pound outside AND a 5 yeard old
> son. I think adding one more thing is going to tip her over the edge.
========================================
I understand. You will just have to be extra careful of the fish you
purchase,... and hope for the best.
--
Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995...
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://bellsouthpwp.net/s/h/shastadaisy
~~~ }<((((o> ~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~ }<(((((o>

[Daniel Morrow]

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"fish lover" > wrote in message
...
> I don't have a QT tank set up and I want to add some fish to my
> existing tank.
>
> What other options do I have? Set up a QT tank is out of the
question.
>
> Thanks

When you do put the fish in the main/community tank net it/them and
put them in the destination tank without any of the pet shop water
(or maybe even without any of the quarantine tank water as well for
good measure). You could possibly buy a dip medication and dip the
fish before putting in the destination tank (final destination tank).
As for a salt dip and how much salt to use and for how long to dip -
try searching this newsgroup archives on google groups for that
information and also the web if the newsgroup search fails. The
information should be there. Good luck and later!

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[Jim Anderson]

In article >,
says...
> On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 19:39:10 GMT, Jim Anderson
> > wrote:
> Thanks, sounds like what I can do. How much salt do I need to put in
> per G of water?
>
>
> >In article >,
> says...
> >> I don't have a QT tank set up and I want to add some fish to my
> >> existing tank.
> >>
> >> What other options do I have? Set up a QT tank is out of the question.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >
> >For freshwater fish, dip them into a bowl with near salt water salinity.
> >It stresses the fish, but is deadly for the small parasites that
> >literally burst from the different osmotic pressure.
> >
> >I am not sure about how long to dip fish, something around a minute
> >rings a bell.
> >
> >This does not help for diseases, just parasites.
>

It depends on the water, and salt, my RO water needed 1/2 cup of Instant
Ocean per gallon and a 24 hour stir with a powerhead to reach 1.023 sg
(full strength sea water).

Do not use table salt.

Oh, and the freshwater fish can't breath in salt water, they sufficate.
so find better info on the net. Google for 'sal****er dip'.

I have done the opposite, freshwater dip for sal****er fish, but that
was years ago.

--
Jim Anderson
( 8(|) To eMail me, just pull "my_finger"

[zir©on]

I guess you assume all your past husbands were probably quarrantined
as well...Your the one needing quarantine

On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 15:34:19 -0600, "Koi-lo" >
wrote:

>===<>
>===<>"fish lover" > wrote in message
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>===<>>I don't have a QT tank set up and I want to add some fish to my
>===<>> existing tank.
>===<>>
>===<>> What other options do I have? Set up a QT tank is out of the question.
>===<>================================
>===<>All you really need to quarantine fish is a sweater box big enough to hold
>===<>about 5 to 8 gallons of water. Get them at K-Mart or Wal*Mart, and a cheap
>===<>airpump with a air driven filter box. This should run you around $30 and
>===<>last a lifetime. Fill the filter box with gravel from your established
>===<>tank. Use water from your established also. Watch for an ammonia or
>===<>nitrite spike. It's the safest way to add fish to an established tank or
>===<>pond. If the fish show with some disease it's also easier and cheaper to
>===<>treat them in a Q-tank than in an established aquarium and it doesn't spread
>===<>to your other fish. Do not use the SAME net for both tanks. Assume the new
>===<>fish have "something" and keep everything separate.

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[Dick]

On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 15:59:21 -0600, "Koi-lo" >
wrote:

>
>"fish lover" > wrote in message
...
>> On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 15:34:19 -0600, "Koi-lo" >
>> wrote:
>> Thanks. It's not the money. I have a limited space and my wife would
>> not want another tank in the house. I have a 125 g tank taking up some
>> space already, plus two big dogs, a pound outside AND a 5 yeard old
>> son. I think adding one more thing is going to tip her over the edge.
>========================================
>I understand. You will just have to be extra careful of the fish you
>purchase,... and hope for the best.


If your existing tank is "healthy" I would be more concerned about the
health of the new fish than of the existing fish. I accidentally put
6 ich ridden Clown Loaches in my 75 gallon tank with about 70
community fish. Not one of the existing fish got the ich. Most of my
fish went into the 75 gallon tank before I started getting additional
tanks. By the time I finally established a Hospital tank I had
purchased all the fish I would own, I had too many fish thanks to
fertile live bearers.

A fishy friend got some new fish using an internet dealer (all of my
fish were bought via internet dealers) and they all died (yes, she is
careful about water changes) and finally she bought some fish in
nearby (200 miles) Odessa and these survived.

I am of the opinion that there are greater dangers to the new fish
than the existing fish. I don't like moving fish around. They may
not care, but it stresses me, so I would lean to putting the fish into
their "home to be" tank.

This is a current debate in my own mind. My Hospital tank is down to
2 fish and I am thinking of buying some fish to keep the tank cycled.
It will be the first additions in 2 years. I only put invalids into
the tank and no current need except to keep it "cycled."

dick