Fed up with python no spill performance - any one know where I can get an aquarium safe garden hose?

[Daniel Morrow]

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I am really fed up with my python no spill clean and fill tool
performance. I only use it to fill and even that is getting much
worse. It wastes water like crazy and gives me poor water pressure
and therefore takes forever to fill tanks with. It's strange as it
used to work a lot better than now, I even tried a new water pump
replacement for it's water powered water pump and it doesn't make any
difference. I checked all of the entire tool/hoses etc. and can't
find any blockages/kinks etc.. I want to replace my no spill with an
aquarium safe garden hose, anyone know where I can get one? I already
have the kitchen faucet adaptors for the said garden hose because of
owning the python. My python wastes tons of water whether it is
draining/filling tanks and I am just fed up with the waste of water
like that. Summary - anyone know were I can buy an aquarium safe
garden hose that I want because even if I use the no spill hose
without a water powered water pump that no spill hose could rupture
under that kind of pressure, I don't like wasting all of that water
either? Thanks, good luck and later!

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[Steve]

Daniel Morrow wrote:
I want to replace my no spill with an
> aquarium safe garden hose, anyone know where I can get one?

I've read on these groups that drinking water-safe hoses are sold for
recreational vehicles (motorhomes, etc).

I just use a very old garden hose, naively assuming that any algicides
have long leached out of it. By the way, gravity syphons my water from
aquarium to laundry tub, do no need for water-wasting water bed-style
tap adapters.

Steve

[Koi-lo]

"Daniel Morrow" > wrote in message
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> I am really fed up with my python no spill clean and fill tool
> performance. I only use it to fill and even that is getting much
> worse. It wastes water like crazy and gives me poor water pressure
> and therefore takes forever to fill tanks with. It's strange as it
> used to work a lot better than now, I even tried a new water pump
> replacement for it's water powered water pump and it doesn't make any
> difference. I checked all of the entire tool/hoses etc. and can't
> find any blockages/kinks etc.. I want to replace my no spill with an
> aquarium safe garden hose, anyone know where I can get one?

## They're all aquarium safe these days. I use hoses from Lowe's, Home
Depot and Wal*Mart to fill my ponds and pools. Why not an aquarium? Let
the water run through it for 15 or 20 seconds to flush out anything that may
have leeched in to the water....... then have at it. I hate my Python and
only use it to drain down the tanks. It's crap like the Cyprio Pond Vac.

I already
> have the kitchen faucet adaptors for the said garden hose because of
> owning the python. My python wastes tons of water whether it is
> draining/filling tanks and I am just fed up with the waste of water
> like that. Summary - anyone know were I can buy an aquarium safe
> garden hose that I want because even if I use the no spill hose
> without a water powered water pump that no spill hose could rupture
> under that kind of pressure, I don't like wasting all of that water
> either? Thanks, good luck and later!

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[NetMax]

"Daniel Morrow" > wrote in message
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> I am really fed up with my python no spill clean and fill tool
> performance. I only use it to fill and even that is getting much
> worse. It wastes water like crazy and gives me poor water pressure
> and therefore takes forever to fill tanks with. It's strange as it
> used to work a lot better than now, I even tried a new water pump
> replacement for it's water powered water pump and it doesn't make any
> difference. I checked all of the entire tool/hoses etc. and can't
> find any blockages/kinks etc.. I want to replace my no spill with an
> aquarium safe garden hose, anyone know where I can get one? I already
> have the kitchen faucet adaptors for the said garden hose because of
> owning the python. My python wastes tons of water whether it is
> draining/filling tanks and I am just fed up with the waste of water
> like that. Summary - anyone know were I can buy an aquarium safe
> garden hose that I want because even if I use the no spill hose
> without a water powered water pump that no spill hose could rupture
> under that kind of pressure, I don't like wasting all of that water
> either? Thanks, good luck and later!
>
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I don't need a python as my laundry tub is a floor below most of my
tanks, so a garden hose & gravity does my gravel vac, water changes and
filling, but if you already own a Python, is there any way you can move
it to a downstairs faucet. It doesn't waste any water that way.
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[Koi-lo]

"NetMax" > wrote in message
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> I don't need a python as my laundry tub is a floor below most of my tanks,
> so a garden hose & gravity does my gravel vac, water changes and filling,
> but if you already own a Python, is there any way you can move it to a
> downstairs faucet. It doesn't waste any water that way.
=========================
Or run it out the door like like I do. :-) My 55's are near the side door
in the sun-fishroom. I siphon the dirty water right out the door into the
yard.
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[NetMax]

"Koi-lo" > wrote in message
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>
> "NetMax" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I don't need a python as my laundry tub is a floor below most of my
>> tanks, so a garden hose & gravity does my gravel vac, water changes
>> and filling, but if you already own a Python, is there any way you can
>> move it to a downstairs faucet. It doesn't waste any water that way.
> =========================
> Or run it out the door like like I do. :-) My 55's are near the side
> door in the sun-fishroom. I siphon the dirty water right out the door
> into the yard.
> --
> Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995...
> My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
> http://bellsouthpwp.net/s/h/shastadaisy
> ~~~ }<((((o> ~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~ }<(((((o>


Obviously you aren't familiar with Canadian weather ;~).

In the summer, for tank tear downs, I'll use an outdoor faucet to pump
water up to the tank I want to drain (running a hose through a window).
Once the hose is filled, I unattach the end at the faucet and let gravity
take over. Never any need to suck on a hose to start a water flow.
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[Koi-lo]

"NetMax" > wrote in message
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> "Koi-lo" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "NetMax" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> I don't need a python as my laundry tub is a floor below most of my
>>> tanks, so a garden hose & gravity does my gravel vac, water changes and
>>> filling, but if you already own a Python, is there any way you can move
>>> it to a downstairs faucet. It doesn't waste any water that way.
>> =========================
>> Or run it out the door like like I do. :-) My 55's are near the side
>> door in the sun-fishroom. I siphon the dirty water right out the door
>> into the yard.
>> --
>> Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995...
>> My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
>> http://bellsouthpwp.net/s/h/shastadaisy
>> ~~~ }<((((o> ~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~ }<(((((o>
>
>
> Obviously you aren't familiar with Canadian weather ;~).

## I was up in Banff one June. I must say I found the Canadians friendlier
than Americans. :-) But that's another topic. I have a good idea what
you're winters are like as I had property in upstate NY. It can get down in
to the teens where I live but our weather isn't brutal. I do my water
changes on days that are over 50F. The door needs only be open an inch to
allow the hose to exit and because the room faces south it's always quite
warm in there. The bit of fresh air that comes in is refreshing to say the
least.

> In the summer, for tank tear downs, I'll use an outdoor faucet to pump
> water up to the tank I want to drain (running a hose through a window).
> Once the hose is filled, I unattach the end at the faucet and let gravity
> take over. Never any need to suck on a hose to start a water flow.

## LOL! That tank water has a real unique flavor........
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http://bellsouthpwp.net/s/h/shastadaisy
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[Beano]

wow, kind of makes me glad I only have one 66gal in a tropical
climate!! Can't imagine even having to change the water on that when
it's snowing or anything like that!

[Daniel Morrow]

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"Steve" > wrote in message
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> Daniel Morrow wrote:
> I want to replace my no spill with an
> > aquarium safe garden hose, anyone know where I can get one?
>
> I've read on these groups that drinking water-safe hoses are sold
for
> recreational vehicles (motorhomes, etc).
>
> I just use a very old garden hose, naively assuming that any
algicides
> have long leached out of it. By the way, gravity syphons my water
from
> aquarium to laundry tub, do no need for water-wasting water
bed-style
> tap adapters.
>
> Steve

Thanks steve - I will look into the rv hoses. I gravity siphon all of
my tanks now instead of wasting water with the python. My big dilemma
now is filling as my python no spill fills but very slowly and still
wastes a lot of water. Summary - my python no sill wastes a lot of
water whether it is draining or filling. Good luck and later!

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"NetMax" > wrote in message
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> > I am really fed up with my python no spill clean and fill tool
> > performance. I only use it to fill and even that is getting much
> > worse. It wastes water like crazy and gives me poor water
pressure
> > and therefore takes forever to fill tanks with. It's strange as
it
> > used to work a lot better than now, I even tried a new water
pump
> > replacement for it's water powered water pump and it doesn't make
any
> > difference. I checked all of the entire tool/hoses etc. and
can't
> > find any blockages/kinks etc.. I want to replace my no spill with
an
> > aquarium safe garden hose, anyone know where I can get one? I
already
> > have the kitchen faucet adaptors for the said garden hose because
of
> > owning the python. My python wastes tons of water whether it is
> > draining/filling tanks and I am just fed up with the waste of
water
> > like that. Summary - anyone know were I can buy an aquarium safe
> > garden hose that I want because even if I use the no spill hose
> > without a water powered water pump that no spill hose could
rupture
> > under that kind of pressure, I don't like wasting all of that
water
> > either? Thanks, good luck and later!
> >
> > - --
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> I don't need a python as my laundry tub is a floor below most of my

> tanks, so a garden hose & gravity does my gravel vac, water changes
and
> filling, but if you already own a Python, is there any way you can
move
> it to a downstairs faucet. It doesn't waste any water that way.
> --
> www.NetMax.tk
>
>

Sorry netmax - I meant to say that my python no spill wastes water
with both draining and filling. That's right - even when I am filling
a lot of water comes out of the bottom of both of my water powered
water pumps and the pressure/current is low so filling takes forever
and wastes water. Summary - both filling and draining wastes water
when it comes to both water powered water pumps and my rest of my
python no spill. I don't know why it does that but coincidentally I
want to use a safe garden type hose to fill and a simple ball valve
on the end to turn it on and off. Do you know where I could get an
aquarium safe garden hose? Would a drinkable (rv like hose - steve
mentions?) garden hose do? What about the metal on the ends of the
hose? Would tetra aquasafe eliminate the metals? Thanks all,
especially netmax this time! Good luck and later!

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>> > I am really fed up with my python no spill clean and fill tool
>> > performance. I only use it to fill and even that is getting much
>> > worse. It wastes water like crazy and gives me poor water
> pressure
>> > and therefore takes forever to fill tanks with. It's strange as
> it
>> > used to work a lot better than now, I even tried a new water
> pump
>> > replacement for it's water powered water pump and it doesn't make
> any
>> > difference. I checked all of the entire tool/hoses etc. and
> can't
>> > find any blockages/kinks etc.. I want to replace my no spill with
> an
>> > aquarium safe garden hose, anyone know where I can get one? I
> already
>> > have the kitchen faucet adaptors for the said garden hose because
> of
>> > owning the python. My python wastes tons of water whether it is
>> > draining/filling tanks and I am just fed up with the waste of
> water
>> > like that. Summary - anyone know were I can buy an aquarium safe
>> > garden hose that I want because even if I use the no spill hose
>> > without a water powered water pump that no spill hose could
> rupture
>> > under that kind of pressure, I don't like wasting all of that
> water
>> > either? Thanks, good luck and later!
>> >
>> > - --
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>> I don't need a python as my laundry tub is a floor below most of my
>
>> tanks, so a garden hose & gravity does my gravel vac, water changes
> and
>> filling, but if you already own a Python, is there any way you can
> move
>> it to a downstairs faucet. It doesn't waste any water that way.
>> --
>> www.NetMax.tk
>>
>>
>
> Sorry netmax - I meant to say that my python no spill wastes water
> with both draining and filling. That's right - even when I am filling
> a lot of water comes out of the bottom of both of my water powered
> water pumps and the pressure/current is low so filling takes forever
> and wastes water. Summary - both filling and draining wastes water
> when it comes to both water powered water pumps and my rest of my
> python no spill. I don't know why it does that but coincidentally I
> want to use a safe garden type hose to fill and a simple ball valve
> on the end to turn it on and off. Do you know where I could get an
> aquarium safe garden hose? Would a drinkable (rv like hose - steve
> mentions?) garden hose do? What about the metal on the ends of the
> hose? Would tetra aquasafe eliminate the metals? Thanks all,
> especially netmax this time! Good luck and later!

There are applications where the Python is not very efficient, so without
seeing your setup, I'll presume that's the case and you don't have
something which has clogged up the intake hose at the vortex connection.
In regards to hoses, avoid black rubber, as there has been a toxicity
link between that and fish. Generally all other hoses would be safe,
except that they have started introducing fungicide into some
plastic/vinyl products (I don't know if they use it on garden hoses), so
an RV hose or anything noted for potable water would be safe. I think
very old hoses are good too, and just flush them before filling (which is
usually easy, cause you drain the tank first ;~). The connectors are
often brass which is ok. Even copper (poisonous to fish) connectors
would probably be fine if the hose was flushed first, as it takes some
time and/or low pH for metal to leech. That's just my opinion though. I
don't know if the heavy metals neutralized by some de-chlors works on the
metals you're worried about, but I imagine it wouldn't hurt ;~).
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[Steve]

Daniel Morrow wrote:

>
>
> Thanks steve - I will look into the rv hoses. I gravity siphon all of
> my tanks now instead of wasting water with the python. My big dilemma
> now is filling as my python no spill fills but very slowly and still
> wastes a lot of water. Summary - my python no sill wastes a lot of
> water whether it is draining or filling. Good luck and later!
>

One other thing I do, is to loosely cover the in-aquarium end of my hose
with a net bag while syphoning. It's tied tight around the hose, but
otherwise loose and baggy to prevent clogging.

I've sucked up the occasional fish with my gravel syphon, and don't want
that to happen with the quite long garden hose. Here's to happy fish
keeping!

Steve

[Koi-lo]

"Beano" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> wow, kind of makes me glad I only have one 66gal in a tropical
> climate!! Can't imagine even having to change the water on that when
> it's snowing or anything like that!
===========================
That's why I wait for a nice sunny day. The fresh air coming in the cracked
door doesn't chill the whole house. I wish I lived in a tropical climate.
:-)
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[David C. Stone]

In article >, NetMax
> wrote:

[snippety-snip]
>
> There are applications where the Python is not very efficient, so without
> seeing your setup, I'll presume that's the case and you don't have
> something which has clogged up the intake hose at the vortex connection.
> In regards to hoses, avoid black rubber, as there has been a toxicity
> link between that and fish. Generally all other hoses would be safe,
> except that they have started introducing fungicide into some
> plastic/vinyl products (I don't know if they use it on garden hoses), so
> an RV hose or anything noted for potable water would be safe. I think
> very old hoses are good too, and just flush them before filling (which is
> usually easy, cause you drain the tank first ;~). The connectors are
> often brass which is ok. Even copper (poisonous to fish) connectors
> would probably be fine if the hose was flushed first, as it takes some
> time and/or low pH for metal to leech. That's just my opinion though. I
> don't know if the heavy metals neutralized by some de-chlors works on the
> metals you're worried about, but I imagine it wouldn't hurt ;~).

I don't think you'd need to worry about copper leaching from brass
hose fittings in this case - you have copper pipe in your domestic
water supply anyway, and much more of it. The only way to leach more
copper than is already in the water would be to put strong acid through
it, which would be more harmful to your fish than the copper leachate.

To put that into perspective:
The guy who runs our analytical services lab. has occasionally done
tests for copper in tap water leaching out of the pipes. It is
detectabe at trace (part per billion) levels if the water has been
sitting in the pipe for a while (e.g. a week), but drops below
the detection limit pretty quickly once the water starts flowing.
That's also far below any toxicity threshold for copper.

In short, unless your water is so acidic that you shouldn't be putting
it in your fish tank anyway, you shouldn't worry about copper leachate.

(High ammonia levels would also leach copper, but your fish would
again likely be dead from the ammonia before you got noticeable levels
of ammonia-copper leachate)

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I've recently moved and my new home is a bit nicer (perfect carpets).
Also, the kitchen sink isn't as deep so a five gallon bucket won't fit
under the spout. At my old house I would fill the bucket in the sink
and pour it into an 18 gallon tote on the kitchen floor. I'd drag the
tote around the corner to the fish room and fill the tanks with a pump
setup. Now, I'd rather just fill the tote near the tank from a hose
attached to the sink. In the tote, I can check water temp, add
chemicals as required and then pump right into the tank.
Question: Where to buy the simplest most cost effective method to
attach a hose to the kitchen faucet? I'd rather not go full python
route because I only need fill method. I can siphon down to the tote
and use my pump to squirt it outside. I like to have my thumb on the
end of the hose while I'm gravel vaccing.

thanks,
steve

[Koi-lo]

"default" > wrote in message
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Where to buy the simplest most cost effective method to
> attach a hose to the kitchen faucet?
==================
You can check out Home Depot, Lowe's or ACE Hardware.
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[Rocco Moretti]

Daniel Morrow wrote:

>
> Sorry netmax - I meant to say that my python no spill wastes water
> with both draining and filling. That's right - even when I am filling
> a lot of water comes out of the bottom of both of my water powered
> water pumps and the pressure/current is low so filling takes forever
> and wastes water.

Never had one myself, but if water's flowing where it shouldn't (e.g.
out the bottom while filling), I'd look for either a dirty/clogged
valve, or a broken gasket/o-ring. If you can, take the faucet portion
apart and look for something cracked/dirty. You may be able to pick up
replacement parts at your LFS or home center/hardware store.

[Daniel Morrow]

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"David C. Stone" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, NetMax
> > wrote:
>
> [snippety-snip]
> >
> > There are applications where the Python is not very efficient, so
without
> > seeing your setup, I'll presume that's the case and you don't
have
> > something which has clogged up the intake hose at the vortex
connection.
> > In regards to hoses, avoid black rubber, as there has been a
toxicity
> > link between that and fish. Generally all other hoses would be
safe,
> > except that they have started introducing fungicide into some
> > plastic/vinyl products (I don't know if they use it on garden
hoses), so
> > an RV hose or anything noted for potable water would be safe. I
think
> > very old hoses are good too, and just flush them before filling
(which is
> > usually easy, cause you drain the tank first ;~). The connectors
are
> > often brass which is ok. Even copper (poisonous to fish)
connectors
> > would probably be fine if the hose was flushed first, as it takes
some
> > time and/or low pH for metal to leech. That's just my opinion
though. I
> > don't know if the heavy metals neutralized by some de-chlors
works on the
> > metals you're worried about, but I imagine it wouldn't hurt ;~).
>
> I don't think you'd need to worry about copper leaching from brass
> hose fittings in this case - you have copper pipe in your domestic
> water supply anyway, and much more of it. The only way to leach
more
> copper than is already in the water would be to put strong acid
through
> it, which would be more harmful to your fish than the copper
leachate.
>
> To put that into perspective:
> The guy who runs our analytical services lab. has occasionally
done
> tests for copper in tap water leaching out of the pipes. It is
> detectabe at trace (part per billion) levels if the water has been

> sitting in the pipe for a while (e.g. a week), but drops below
> the detection limit pretty quickly once the water starts flowing.
> That's also far below any toxicity threshold for copper.
>
> In short, unless your water is so acidic that you shouldn't be
putting
> it in your fish tank anyway, you shouldn't worry about copper
leachate.
>
> (High ammonia levels would also leach copper, but your fish would
> again likely be dead from the ammonia before you got noticeable
levels
> of ammonia-copper leachate)

Thanks dave and rocco! I plan on getting new hoses instead of buying
yet another water powered water pump which wouldn't help. Good luck
and later!

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[NetMax]

"David C. Stone" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, NetMax
> > wrote:
>
> [snippety-snip]
>>
>> There are applications where the Python is not very efficient, so
>> without
>> seeing your setup, I'll presume that's the case and you don't have
>> something which has clogged up the intake hose at the vortex
>> connection.
>> In regards to hoses, avoid black rubber, as there has been a toxicity
>> link between that and fish. Generally all other hoses would be safe,
>> except that they have started introducing fungicide into some
>> plastic/vinyl products (I don't know if they use it on garden hoses),
>> so
>> an RV hose or anything noted for potable water would be safe. I think
>> very old hoses are good too, and just flush them before filling (which
>> is
>> usually easy, cause you drain the tank first ;~). The connectors are
>> often brass which is ok. Even copper (poisonous to fish) connectors
>> would probably be fine if the hose was flushed first, as it takes some
>> time and/or low pH for metal to leech. That's just my opinion though.
>> I
>> don't know if the heavy metals neutralized by some de-chlors works on
>> the
>> metals you're worried about, but I imagine it wouldn't hurt ;~).
>
> I don't think you'd need to worry about copper leaching from brass
> hose fittings in this case - you have copper pipe in your domestic
> water supply anyway, and much more of it. The only way to leach more
> copper than is already in the water would be to put strong acid through
> it, which would be more harmful to your fish than the copper leachate.
>
> To put that into perspective:
> The guy who runs our analytical services lab. has occasionally done
> tests for copper in tap water leaching out of the pipes. It is
> detectabe at trace (part per billion) levels if the water has been
> sitting in the pipe for a while (e.g. a week), but drops below
> the detection limit pretty quickly once the water starts flowing.
> That's also far below any toxicity threshold for copper.
>
> In short, unless your water is so acidic that you shouldn't be putting
> it in your fish tank anyway, you shouldn't worry about copper leachate.
>
> (High ammonia levels would also leach copper, but your fish would
> again likely be dead from the ammonia before you got noticeable levels
> of ammonia-copper leachate)

Thanks for that David. I've always used tap water through hoses, mixing
hot water (from an oil-fired hot water tank or electric). I haven't
lived in a brand new house (yet), but I've never been convinced that hot
water was the kiss of death that some make it sound like. I think some
extra caution is warranted with a new house, otherwise, run the water a
bit and you should be good to go. However, this doesn't recognize all
the different conditions which exist around the world, so as always ymmv.
--
www.NetMax.tk

[David C. Stone]

In article >, NetMax
> wrote:

[snip]
>
> Thanks for that David. I've always used tap water through hoses, mixing
> hot water (from an oil-fired hot water tank or electric). I haven't
> lived in a brand new house (yet), but I've never been convinced that hot
> water was the kiss of death that some make it sound like. I think some
> extra caution is warranted with a new house, otherwise, run the water a
> bit and you should be good to go. However, this doesn't recognize all
> the different conditions which exist around the world, so as always ymmv.

A _reputable_ plumber will always flush the lines after any plumbing
work, and advise you to leave the taps running for a while if they have
to leave before doing so.

I'd really only be concerned about lead or galvanised pipe in very old
houses, because lead bioaccumulates and the galvanised pipe can get
pretty badly furred (scaled).

I regularly use a mix from the hot and cold taps, and haven't had any
problems with that. (Good idea to keep an eye on the hardness though!)

What I do at work is discard the first bucket of water from the taps,
and start filling with the second. This is because work is a large
chemistry lab with big pipes, that only gets used mornings for one
semester. I wouldn't bother doing that at home as, with a family of
four (plus dog), the water doesn't sit in the pipes too long!!

As you say, local conditions do vary, so a little research into local
water quality and the state of your plumbing are always a good
invsetment of time.

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Koi-lo wrote:
> "default" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
> Where to buy the simplest most cost effective method to
> > attach a hose to the kitchen faucet?
> ==================
> You can check out Home Depot, Lowe's or ACE Hardware.

What area, and what specific equipment would you suggest I look for?

thanks,
steve

[Koi-lo]

"default" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
> Koi-lo wrote:
>> "default" > wrote in message
>> oups.com...
>> Where to buy the simplest most cost effective method to
>> > attach a hose to the kitchen faucet?
>> ==================
>> You can check out Home Depot, Lowe's or ACE Hardware.
>
> What area, and what specific equipment would you suggest I look for?
>
> thanks,
> steve
========================
What area are you posting from? I'm in the USA. The workers in these stores
are usually quite knowledgeable, especially at ACE Hardware. Tell them you
need an *adapter* to attach a garden hose to your kitchen sink. Bring the
screwout screen (aerator) from the sink with you so you get the correct
size.
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[default]

Koi-lo wrote:
> What area are you posting from? I'm in the USA. The workers in these stores
> are usually quite knowledgeable, especially at ACE Hardware. Tell them you
> need an *adapter* to attach a garden hose to your kitchen sink. Bring the
> screwout screen (aerator) from the sink with you so you get the correct
> size.


Excellent advice, I'll give it a try. Thanks,
steve