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kc
December 2nd 05, 11:54 AM
One last question--how do you keep the plants from being nibbled by the
koi/goldfish when they're "sunk" in the pond?
Kirsten

Derek
December 2nd 05, 02:00 PM
kc wrote:

> One last question--how do you keep the plants from being nibbled by the
> koi/goldfish when they're "sunk" in the pond?

At this time of year, they're not eating much anyway. I just don't worry
about it.
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derek

Koi-lo
December 2nd 05, 03:29 PM
"kc" > wrote in message
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> One last question--how do you keep the plants from being nibbled by the
> koi/goldfish when they're "sunk" in the pond?
> Kirsten
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That's not going to do them much damage when they're dormant unless the fish
pull them out of their pots. I don't sink my plants here in zone 6 and
can't remember losing any to frost.

Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995...
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Stephen Henning
December 2nd 05, 04:13 PM
"Koi-lo" > wrote:

> That's not going to do them much damage when they're dormant unless the fish
> pull them out of their pots. I don't sink my plants here in zone 6 and
> can't remember losing any to frost.

I sink my plants to keep from loosing the pots. Most of mine are in
terra-cotta pots which crack when the wet clay soil inside freezes. It
is amazing how much they grow under water. I have to cut some of them
way back when I bring them back up.
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Koi-lo
December 2nd 05, 08:07 PM
"Stephen Henning" > wrote in message
...
> "Koi-lo" > wrote:
>
>> That's not going to do them much damage when they're dormant unless the
>> fish
>> pull them out of their pots. I don't sink my plants here in zone 6 and
>> can't remember losing any to frost.
>
> I sink my plants to keep from loosing the pots. Most of mine are in
> terra-cotta pots which crack when the wet clay soil inside freezes. It
> is amazing how much they grow under water. I have to cut some of them
> way back when I bring them back up.
======================
Terra-cotta pots are a definite concern, and they're not cheap. I use those
inexpensive black plastic pots that seem to weather the cold and ice ok.
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Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995...
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Stephen Henning
December 3rd 05, 12:24 AM
"Koi-lo" > wrote:

> Terra-cotta pots are a definite concern, and they're not cheap. I use those
> inexpensive black plastic pots that seem to weather the cold and ice ok.

My iris are in black plastic baskets and the tubers are bursting the
baskets. I may have to cut away the plastic to separate them next
spring.
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Koi-lo
December 3rd 05, 02:20 AM
"Stephen Henning" > wrote in message
...
> "Koi-lo" > wrote:
>
>> Terra-cotta pots are a definite concern, and they're not cheap. I use
>> those
>> inexpensive black plastic pots that seem to weather the cold and ice ok.
>
> My iris are in black plastic baskets and the tubers are bursting the
> baskets. I may have to cut away the plastic to separate them next
> spring.
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Iris grow so outrageously I'm considering not putting them in my ponds
anymore. Their roots spread to nearby pots and they choke out other plants.
I didn't put any iris back in my 800g pond after we cleaned it last summer.
Pickerel weed is the same. I don't use them anymore. I'm going to stick to
more controllable and manageable plants like the arrowheads, mini cattails,
mini papyrus etc.
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Stephen Henning
December 3rd 05, 03:01 PM
"Koi-lo" > wrote:

> Iris grow so outrageously I'm considering not putting them in my ponds
> anymore. Their roots spread to nearby pots and they choke out other plants.
> I didn't put any iris back in my 800g pond after we cleaned it last summer.
> Pickerel weed is the same. I don't use them anymore. I'm going to stick to
> more controllable and manageable plants like the arrowheads, mini cattails,
> mini papyrus etc.

Iris is one of my main filter plants. I will need to transplant it
every 2 years to manage it. Also, they are very heavy to move. I will
be moving them into many smaller pots. When I sink it on the bottom (2'
deep), the leaves grow up out of the water by early spring.
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Derek
December 4th 05, 02:39 PM
Stephen Henning wrote:

> "Koi-lo" > wrote:
>
>> Iris grow so outrageously I'm considering not putting them in my ponds
>> anymore. Their roots spread to nearby pots and they choke out other
>> plants. I didn't put any iris back in my 800g pond after we cleaned it
>> last summer.
>> Pickerel weed is the same. I don't use them anymore. I'm going to stick
>> to more controllable and manageable plants like the arrowheads, mini
>> cattails, mini papyrus etc.
>
> Iris is one of my main filter plants. I will need to transplant it
> every 2 years to manage it. Also, they are very heavy to move. I will
> be moving them into many smaller pots. When I sink it on the bottom (2'
> deep), the leaves grow up out of the water by early spring.

I grew Iris, bare-root, in the head pond of my waterfall. You'd have to
pull out half of it every summer and compost it, but it works great as a
filter plant. I let it freeze solid, too.
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derek