Help...Nitrate problems

[Susan]

Hoping someone can help me with this. I have 2 fish and reef tanks one is a
46 gallon bow front and the other is a 29 gallon. The Nitrates in both
tanks seem to be staying off the scale. They aren't over stocked. Fish,
Invertebraes and corals (polys, soft corals) all seem to be doing well
though. I still would like to get it lowered. I change the water in them
but this doesn't seem to help. My question is I have Fluval filters on both
of them. A 204 on the 29 gallon and a 304 on the 46 gallon. I also have
skimmers running on both. A Jebo on the 29 gallon and I upgraded to a
Aqua-Remora on the 46 gallon (Didn't make a difference though.) Is there
something in the Fluvals that I need to take out that could be causing this?
I keep the charcoal changed. Just wandering if it could be the bio ceramic
filtration that could be causing this in the Fluval? Anybody have any
ideas?

Thanks in advance :)
Susan

[Cindy]

Susan wrote:
> Hoping someone can help me with this. I have 2 fish and reef tanks
> one is a 46 gallon bow front and the other is a 29 gallon. The
> Nitrates in both tanks seem to be staying off the scale. They aren't
> over stocked. Fish, Invertebraes and corals (polys, soft corals) all
> seem to be doing well though. I still would like to get it lowered.
> I change the water in them but this doesn't seem to help. My question
> is I have Fluval filters on both of them. A 204 on the 29 gallon and
> a 304 on the 46 gallon. I also have skimmers running on both. A Jebo
> on the 29 gallon and I upgraded to a Aqua-Remora on the 46 gallon
> (Didn't make a difference though.) Is there something in the Fluvals
> that I need to take out that could be causing this? I keep the
> charcoal changed. Just wandering if it could be the bio ceramic
> filtration that could be causing this in the Fluval? Anybody have
> any ideas?
> Thanks in advance :)
> Susan

Someone just posted the other day about the same problem. She cleaned out
all her empty hermit crab shells and her nitrates went down.

[Wayne Sallee]

Denitrification takes place down in the low oxygen areas
of the sand, and in the low oxygen areas in the liverock.

Let your live rock and live sand do the biological
filtering instead of the fluval. You may have to do this
change gradualy.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Susan wrote on 12/6/2005 1:36 PM:
> Hoping someone can help me with this. I have 2 fish and reef tanks one is a
> 46 gallon bow front and the other is a 29 gallon. The Nitrates in both
> tanks seem to be staying off the scale. They aren't over stocked. Fish,
> Invertebraes and corals (polys, soft corals) all seem to be doing well
> though. I still would like to get it lowered. I change the water in them
> but this doesn't seem to help. My question is I have Fluval filters on both
> of them. A 204 on the 29 gallon and a 304 on the 46 gallon. I also have
> skimmers running on both. A Jebo on the 29 gallon and I upgraded to a
> Aqua-Remora on the 46 gallon (Didn't make a difference though.) Is there
> something in the Fluvals that I need to take out that could be causing this?
> I keep the charcoal changed. Just wandering if it could be the bio ceramic
> filtration that could be causing this in the Fluval? Anybody have any
> ideas?
>
> Thanks in advance :)
> Susan
>
>

[Susan]

Thanks, I did happen to read about that and kind of forgot about it. I'll
work on doing that.

Susan :)
"Cindy" > wrote in message
. net...
> Susan wrote:
>> Hoping someone can help me with this. I have 2 fish and reef tanks
>> one is a 46 gallon bow front and the other is a 29 gallon. The
>> Nitrates in both tanks seem to be staying off the scale. They aren't
>> over stocked. Fish, Invertebraes and corals (polys, soft corals) all
>> seem to be doing well though. I still would like to get it lowered.
>> I change the water in them but this doesn't seem to help. My question
>> is I have Fluval filters on both of them. A 204 on the 29 gallon and
>> a 304 on the 46 gallon. I also have skimmers running on both. A Jebo
>> on the 29 gallon and I upgraded to a Aqua-Remora on the 46 gallon
>> (Didn't make a difference though.) Is there something in the Fluvals
>> that I need to take out that could be causing this? I keep the
>> charcoal changed. Just wandering if it could be the bio ceramic
>> filtration that could be causing this in the Fluval? Anybody have
>> any ideas?
>> Thanks in advance :)
>> Susan
>
> Someone just posted the other day about the same problem. She cleaned out
> all her empty hermit crab shells and her nitrates went down.
>

[Susan]

Thanks, I'll work on getting the bio ceramic cylinders out of the filter.
Worth a shot.

Susan :)
"Wayne Sallee" > wrote in message
...
> Denitrification takes place down in the low oxygen areas of the sand, and
> in the low oxygen areas in the liverock.
>
> Let your live rock and live sand do the biological filtering instead of
> the fluval. You may have to do this change gradualy.
>
> Wayne Sallee
> Wayne's Pets
>
>
>
> Susan wrote on 12/6/2005 1:36 PM:
>> Hoping someone can help me with this. I have 2 fish and reef tanks one
>> is a 46 gallon bow front and the other is a 29 gallon. The Nitrates in
>> both tanks seem to be staying off the scale. They aren't over stocked.
>> Fish, Invertebraes and corals (polys, soft corals) all seem to be doing
>> well though. I still would like to get it lowered. I change the water in
>> them but this doesn't seem to help. My question is I have Fluval filters
>> on both of them. A 204 on the 29 gallon and a 304 on the 46 gallon. I
>> also have skimmers running on both. A Jebo on the 29 gallon and I
>> upgraded to a Aqua-Remora on the 46 gallon (Didn't make a difference
>> though.) Is there something in the Fluvals that I need to take out that
>> could be causing this? I keep the charcoal changed. Just wandering if it
>> could be the bio ceramic filtration that could be causing this in the
>> Fluval? Anybody have any ideas?
>>
>> Thanks in advance :)
>> Susan

[Wayne Sallee]

What kind of substrate do you have?

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Susan wrote on 12/6/2005 11:38 PM:
> Thanks, I'll work on getting the bio ceramic cylinders out of the filter.
> Worth a shot.
>
> Susan :)
> "Wayne Sallee" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Denitrification takes place down in the low oxygen areas of the sand, and
>>in the low oxygen areas in the liverock.
>>
>>Let your live rock and live sand do the biological filtering instead of
>>the fluval. You may have to do this change gradualy.
>>
>>Wayne Sallee
>>Wayne's Pets

>>
>>
>>Susan wrote on 12/6/2005 1:36 PM:
>>
>>>Hoping someone can help me with this. I have 2 fish and reef tanks one
>>>is a 46 gallon bow front and the other is a 29 gallon. The Nitrates in
>>>both tanks seem to be staying off the scale. They aren't over stocked.
>>>Fish, Invertebraes and corals (polys, soft corals) all seem to be doing
>>>well though. I still would like to get it lowered. I change the water in
>>>them but this doesn't seem to help. My question is I have Fluval filters
>>>on both of them. A 204 on the 29 gallon and a 304 on the 46 gallon. I
>>>also have skimmers running on both. A Jebo on the 29 gallon and I
>>>upgraded to a Aqua-Remora on the 46 gallon (Didn't make a difference
>>>though.) Is there something in the Fluvals that I need to take out that
>>>could be causing this? I keep the charcoal changed. Just wandering if it
>>>could be the bio ceramic filtration that could be causing this in the
>>>Fluval? Anybody have any ideas?
>>>
>>>Thanks in advance :)
>>>Susan
>
>
>

[Susan]

I have about 2" of Agra-live (think that's how you spell it) sand. My tanks
have been running for a little over a year now.

Susan :)
"Wayne Sallee" > wrote in message
...
> What kind of substrate do you have?
>
> Wayne Sallee
> Wayne's Pets
>
>
>
> Susan wrote on 12/6/2005 11:38 PM:
>> Thanks, I'll work on getting the bio ceramic cylinders out of the filter.
>> Worth a shot.
>>
>> Susan :)
>> "Wayne Sallee" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>>Denitrification takes place down in the low oxygen areas of the sand, and
>>>in the low oxygen areas in the liverock.
>>>
>>>Let your live rock and live sand do the biological filtering instead of
>>>the fluval. You may have to do this change gradualy.
>>>
>>>Wayne Sallee
>>>Wayne's Pets

>>>
>>>
>>>Susan wrote on 12/6/2005 1:36 PM:
>>>
>>>>Hoping someone can help me with this. I have 2 fish and reef tanks one
>>>>is a 46 gallon bow front and the other is a 29 gallon. The Nitrates in
>>>>both tanks seem to be staying off the scale. They aren't over stocked.
>>>>Fish, Invertebraes and corals (polys, soft corals) all seem to be doing
>>>>well though. I still would like to get it lowered. I change the water
>>>>in them but this doesn't seem to help. My question is I have Fluval
>>>>filters on both of them. A 204 on the 29 gallon and a 304 on the 46
>>>>gallon. I also have skimmers running on both. A Jebo on the 29 gallon
>>>>and I upgraded to a Aqua-Remora on the 46 gallon (Didn't make a
>>>>difference though.) Is there something in the Fluvals that I need to
>>>>take out that could be causing this? I keep the charcoal changed. Just
>>>>wandering if it could be the bio ceramic filtration that could be
>>>>causing this in the Fluval? Anybody have any ideas?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks in advance :)
>>>>Susan
>>
>>

[Wayne Sallee]

Is it a fine grain sugar sized sand, or is it corse stuff?

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Susan wrote on 12/7/2005 2:51 PM:
> I have about 2" of Agra-live (think that's how you spell it) sand. My tanks
> have been running for a little over a year now.
>
> Susan :)
> "Wayne Sallee" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>What kind of substrate do you have?
>>
>>Wayne Sallee
>>Wayne's Pets

>>
>>
>>Susan wrote on 12/6/2005 11:38 PM:
>>
>>>Thanks, I'll work on getting the bio ceramic cylinders out of the filter.
>>>Worth a shot.
>>>
>>>Susan :)
>>>"Wayne Sallee" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Denitrification takes place down in the low oxygen areas of the sand, and
>>>>in the low oxygen areas in the liverock.
>>>>
>>>>Let your live rock and live sand do the biological filtering instead of
>>>>the fluval. You may have to do this change gradualy.
>>>>
>>>>Wayne Sallee
>>>>Wayne's Pets

>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Susan wrote on 12/6/2005 1:36 PM:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hoping someone can help me with this. I have 2 fish and reef tanks one
>>>>>is a 46 gallon bow front and the other is a 29 gallon. The Nitrates in
>>>>>both tanks seem to be staying off the scale. They aren't over stocked.
>>>>>Fish, Invertebraes and corals (polys, soft corals) all seem to be doing
>>>>>well though. I still would like to get it lowered. I change the water
>>>>>in them but this doesn't seem to help. My question is I have Fluval
>>>>>filters on both of them. A 204 on the 29 gallon and a 304 on the 46
>>>>>gallon. I also have skimmers running on both. A Jebo on the 29 gallon
>>>>>and I upgraded to a Aqua-Remora on the 46 gallon (Didn't make a
>>>>>difference though.) Is there something in the Fluvals that I need to
>>>>>take out that could be causing this? I keep the charcoal changed. Just
>>>>>wandering if it could be the bio ceramic filtration that could be
>>>>>causing this in the Fluval? Anybody have any ideas?
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks in advance :)
>>>>>Susan
>>>
>>>
>

[Susan]

It's more course size.

Susan :)
"Wayne Sallee" > wrote in message
...
> Is it a fine grain sugar sized sand, or is it corse stuff?
>
> Wayne Sallee
> Wayne's Pets
>
>
>
> Susan wrote on 12/7/2005 2:51 PM:
>> I have about 2" of Agra-live (think that's how you spell it) sand. My
>> tanks have been running for a little over a year now.
>>
>> Susan :)
>> "Wayne Sallee" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>>What kind of substrate do you have?
>>>
>>>Wayne Sallee
>>>Wayne's Pets

>>>
>>>
>>>Susan wrote on 12/6/2005 11:38 PM:
>>>
>>>>Thanks, I'll work on getting the bio ceramic cylinders out of the
>>>>filter. Worth a shot.
>>>>
>>>>Susan :)
>>>>"Wayne Sallee" > wrote in message
...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Denitrification takes place down in the low oxygen areas of the sand,
>>>>>and in the low oxygen areas in the liverock.
>>>>>
>>>>>Let your live rock and live sand do the biological filtering instead of
>>>>>the fluval. You may have to do this change gradualy.
>>>>>
>>>>>Wayne Sallee
>>>>>Wayne's Pets

>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Susan wrote on 12/6/2005 1:36 PM:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hoping someone can help me with this. I have 2 fish and reef tanks
>>>>>>one is a 46 gallon bow front and the other is a 29 gallon. The
>>>>>>Nitrates in both tanks seem to be staying off the scale. They aren't
>>>>>>over stocked. Fish, Invertebraes and corals (polys, soft corals) all
>>>>>>seem to be doing well though. I still would like to get it lowered. I
>>>>>>change the water in them but this doesn't seem to help. My question is
>>>>>>I have Fluval filters on both of them. A 204 on the 29 gallon and a
>>>>>>304 on the 46 gallon. I also have skimmers running on both. A Jebo on
>>>>>>the 29 gallon and I upgraded to a Aqua-Remora on the 46 gallon (Didn't
>>>>>>make a difference though.) Is there something in the Fluvals that I
>>>>>>need to take out that could be causing this? I keep the charcoal
>>>>>>changed. Just wandering if it could be the bio ceramic filtration
>>>>>>that could be causing this in the Fluval? Anybody have any ideas?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks in advance :)
>>>>>>Susan
>>>>
>>>>
>>

[Wayne Sallee]

The finer sand does a better job of denitrifying the
nitrates. You can add some fine calcium sand to improve
denitrification.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Susan wrote on 12/7/2005 3:12 PM:
> It's more course size.
>
> Susan :)
> "Wayne Sallee" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Is it a fine grain sugar sized sand, or is it corse stuff?
>>
>>Wayne Sallee
>>Wayne's Pets

>>
>>
>>Susan wrote on 12/7/2005 2:51 PM:
>>
>>>I have about 2" of Agra-live (think that's how you spell it) sand. My
>>>tanks have been running for a little over a year now.
>>>
>>>Susan :)
>>>"Wayne Sallee" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>
>>>>What kind of substrate do you have?
>>>>
>>>>Wayne Sallee
>>>>Wayne's Pets

>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Susan wrote on 12/6/2005 11:38 PM:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Thanks, I'll work on getting the bio ceramic cylinders out of the
>>>>>filter. Worth a shot.
>>>>>
>>>>>Susan :)
>>>>>"Wayne Sallee" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Denitrification takes place down in the low oxygen areas of the sand,
>>>>>>and in the low oxygen areas in the liverock.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Let your live rock and live sand do the biological filtering instead of
>>>>>>the fluval. You may have to do this change gradualy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Wayne Sallee
>>>>>>Wayne's Pets

>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Susan wrote on 12/6/2005 1:36 PM:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hoping someone can help me with this. I have 2 fish and reef tanks
>>>>>>>one is a 46 gallon bow front and the other is a 29 gallon. The
>>>>>>>Nitrates in both tanks seem to be staying off the scale. They aren't
>>>>>>>over stocked. Fish, Invertebraes and corals (polys, soft corals) all
>>>>>>>seem to be doing well though. I still would like to get it lowered. I
>>>>>>>change the water in them but this doesn't seem to help. My question is
>>>>>>>I have Fluval filters on both of them. A 204 on the 29 gallon and a
>>>>>>>304 on the 46 gallon. I also have skimmers running on both. A Jebo on
>>>>>>>the 29 gallon and I upgraded to a Aqua-Remora on the 46 gallon (Didn't
>>>>>>>make a difference though.) Is there something in the Fluvals that I
>>>>>>>need to take out that could be causing this? I keep the charcoal
>>>>>>>changed. Just wandering if it could be the bio ceramic filtration
>>>>>>>that could be causing this in the Fluval? Anybody have any ideas?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks in advance :)
>>>>>>>Susan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>
>

[Susan]

Thanks Wayne. I always liked the sugar type sand. Where is a good place to
get this?

Susan :)
"Wayne Sallee" > wrote in message
...
> The finer sand does a better job of denitrifying the nitrates. You can add
> some fine calcium sand to improve denitrification.
>
> Wayne Sallee
> Wayne's Pets
>
>
>
> Susan wrote on 12/7/2005 3:12 PM:
>> It's more course size.
>>
>> Susan :)
>> "Wayne Sallee" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>>Is it a fine grain sugar sized sand, or is it corse stuff?
>>>
>>>Wayne Sallee
>>>Wayne's Pets

>>>
>>>
>>>Susan wrote on 12/7/2005 2:51 PM:
>>>
>>>>I have about 2" of Agra-live (think that's how you spell it) sand. My
>>>>tanks have been running for a little over a year now.
>>>>
>>>>Susan :)
>>>>"Wayne Sallee" > wrote in message
...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>What kind of substrate do you have?
>>>>>
>>>>>Wayne Sallee
>>>>>Wayne's Pets

>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Susan wrote on 12/6/2005 11:38 PM:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks, I'll work on getting the bio ceramic cylinders out of the
>>>>>>filter. Worth a shot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Susan :)
>>>>>>"Wayne Sallee" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Denitrification takes place down in the low oxygen areas of the sand,
>>>>>>>and in the low oxygen areas in the liverock.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Let your live rock and live sand do the biological filtering instead
>>>>>>>of the fluval. You may have to do this change gradualy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Wayne Sallee
>>>>>>>Wayne's Pets

>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Susan wrote on 12/6/2005 1:36 PM:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hoping someone can help me with this. I have 2 fish and reef tanks
>>>>>>>>one is a 46 gallon bow front and the other is a 29 gallon. The
>>>>>>>>Nitrates in both tanks seem to be staying off the scale. They
>>>>>>>>aren't over stocked. Fish, Invertebraes and corals (polys, soft
>>>>>>>>corals) all seem to be doing well though. I still would like to get
>>>>>>>>it lowered. I change the water in them but this doesn't seem to
>>>>>>>>help. My question is I have Fluval filters on both of them. A 204
>>>>>>>>on the 29 gallon and a 304 on the 46 gallon. I also have skimmers
>>>>>>>>running on both. A Jebo on the 29 gallon and I upgraded to a
>>>>>>>>Aqua-Remora on the 46 gallon (Didn't make a difference though.) Is
>>>>>>>>there something in the Fluvals that I need to take out that could be
>>>>>>>>causing this? I keep the charcoal changed. Just wandering if it
>>>>>>>>could be the bio ceramic filtration that could be causing this in
>>>>>>>>the Fluval? Anybody have any ideas?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks in advance :)
>>>>>>>>Susan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>

[Wayne Sallee]

ummm, your local pet store :-) Preferabley a privately
owned store, instead of a chain store.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Susan wrote on 12/7/2005 4:23 PM:
> Thanks Wayne. I always liked the sugar type sand. Where is a good place to
> get this?
>
> Susan :)
> "Wayne Sallee" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>The finer sand does a better job of denitrifying the nitrates. You can add
>>some fine calcium sand to improve denitrification.
>>
>>Wayne Sallee
>>Wayne's Pets

>>
>>
>>Susan wrote on 12/7/2005 3:12 PM:
>>
>>>It's more course size.
>>>
>>>Susan :)
>>>"Wayne Sallee" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Is it a fine grain sugar sized sand, or is it corse stuff?
>>>>
>>>>Wayne Sallee
>>>>Wayne's Pets

>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Susan wrote on 12/7/2005 2:51 PM:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I have about 2" of Agra-live (think that's how you spell it) sand. My
>>>>>tanks have been running for a little over a year now.
>>>>>
>>>>>Susan :)
>>>>>"Wayne Sallee" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>What kind of substrate do you have?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Wayne Sallee
>>>>>>Wayne's Pets

>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Susan wrote on 12/6/2005 11:38 PM:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks, I'll work on getting the bio ceramic cylinders out of the
>>>>>>>filter. Worth a shot.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Susan :)
>>>>>>>"Wayne Sallee" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Denitrification takes place down in the low oxygen areas of the sand,
>>>>>>>>and in the low oxygen areas in the liverock.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Let your live rock and live sand do the biological filtering instead
>>>>>>>>of the fluval. You may have to do this change gradualy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Wayne Sallee
>>>>>>>>Wayne's Pets

>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Susan wrote on 12/6/2005 1:36 PM:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Hoping someone can help me with this. I have 2 fish and reef tanks
>>>>>>>>>one is a 46 gallon bow front and the other is a 29 gallon. The
>>>>>>>>>Nitrates in both tanks seem to be staying off the scale. They
>>>>>>>>>aren't over stocked. Fish, Invertebraes and corals (polys, soft
>>>>>>>>>corals) all seem to be doing well though. I still would like to get
>>>>>>>>>it lowered. I change the water in them but this doesn't seem to
>>>>>>>>>help. My question is I have Fluval filters on both of them. A 204
>>>>>>>>>on the 29 gallon and a 304 on the 46 gallon. I also have skimmers
>>>>>>>>>running on both. A Jebo on the 29 gallon and I upgraded to a
>>>>>>>>>Aqua-Remora on the 46 gallon (Didn't make a difference though.) Is
>>>>>>>>>there something in the Fluvals that I need to take out that could be
>>>>>>>>>causing this? I keep the charcoal changed. Just wandering if it
>>>>>>>>>could be the bio ceramic filtration that could be causing this in
>>>>>>>>>the Fluval? Anybody have any ideas?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Thanks in advance :)
>>>>>>>>>Susan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>

[Susan]

I haven't seen any local but will look around. Most places only have the
arag-alive. Thanks again.

Susan :)
"Wayne Sallee" > wrote in message
...
> ummm, your local pet store :-) Preferabley a privately owned store,
> instead of a chain store.
>
> Wayne Sallee
> Wayne's Pets
>
>
>
> Susan wrote on 12/7/2005 4:23 PM:
>> Thanks Wayne. I always liked the sugar type sand. Where is a good place
>> to get this?
>>
>> Susan :)
>> "Wayne Sallee" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>>The finer sand does a better job of denitrifying the nitrates. You can
>>>add some fine calcium sand to improve denitrification.
>>>
>>>Wayne Sallee
>>>Wayne's Pets

>>>
>>>
>>>Susan wrote on 12/7/2005 3:12 PM:
>>>
>>>>It's more course size.
>>>>
>>>>Susan :)
>>>>"Wayne Sallee" > wrote in message
...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Is it a fine grain sugar sized sand, or is it corse stuff?
>>>>>
>>>>>Wayne Sallee
>>>>>Wayne's Pets

>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Susan wrote on 12/7/2005 2:51 PM:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I have about 2" of Agra-live (think that's how you spell it) sand. My
>>>>>>tanks have been running for a little over a year now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Susan :)
>>>>>>"Wayne Sallee" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>What kind of substrate do you have?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Wayne Sallee
>>>>>>>Wayne's Pets

>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Susan wrote on 12/6/2005 11:38 PM:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks, I'll work on getting the bio ceramic cylinders out of the
>>>>>>>>filter. Worth a shot.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Susan :)
>>>>>>>>"Wayne Sallee" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Denitrification takes place down in the low oxygen areas of the
>>>>>>>>>sand, and in the low oxygen areas in the liverock.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Let your live rock and live sand do the biological filtering
>>>>>>>>>instead of the fluval. You may have to do this change gradualy.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Wayne Sallee
>>>>>>>>>Wayne's Pets

>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Susan wrote on 12/6/2005 1:36 PM:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Hoping someone can help me with this. I have 2 fish and reef
>>>>>>>>>>tanks one is a 46 gallon bow front and the other is a 29 gallon.
>>>>>>>>>>The Nitrates in both tanks seem to be staying off the scale. They
>>>>>>>>>>aren't over stocked. Fish, Invertebraes and corals (polys, soft
>>>>>>>>>>corals) all seem to be doing well though. I still would like to
>>>>>>>>>>get it lowered. I change the water in them but this doesn't seem
>>>>>>>>>>to help. My question is I have Fluval filters on both of them. A
>>>>>>>>>>204 on the 29 gallon and a 304 on the 46 gallon. I also have
>>>>>>>>>>skimmers running on both. A Jebo on the 29 gallon and I upgraded
>>>>>>>>>>to a Aqua-Remora on the 46 gallon (Didn't make a difference
>>>>>>>>>>though.) Is there something in the Fluvals that I need to take
>>>>>>>>>>out that could be causing this? I keep the charcoal changed. Just
>>>>>>>>>>wandering if it could be the bio ceramic filtration that could be
>>>>>>>>>>causing this in the Fluval? Anybody have any ideas?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Thanks in advance :)
>>>>>>>>>>Susan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>

[Wayne Sallee]

Ask your favorate LFS if they can special order World Wide
Imports ATLANT#1 CORAL SAND 20LB. The retail price for it
is only around $10.00. That's what I sell a lot of. It's a
nice fine sand at a good price. Just rense it in a 5
gallon bucket real good, and use a 2" pvc pipe to despence
it into the tank so as to not cloud up the tank.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Susan wrote on 12/7/2005 4:56 PM:
> I haven't seen any local but will look around. Most places only have the
> arag-alive. Thanks again.
>
> Susan :)
> "Wayne Sallee" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>ummm, your local pet store :-) Preferabley a privately owned store,
>>instead of a chain store.
>>
>>Wayne Sallee
>>Wayne's Pets

>>
>>
>>Susan wrote on 12/7/2005 4:23 PM:
>>
>>>Thanks Wayne. I always liked the sugar type sand. Where is a good place
>>>to get this?
>>>
>>>Susan :)
>>>"Wayne Sallee" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>
>>>>The finer sand does a better job of denitrifying the nitrates. You can
>>>>add some fine calcium sand to improve denitrification.
>>>>
>>>>Wayne Sallee
>>>>Wayne's Pets

>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Susan wrote on 12/7/2005 3:12 PM:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>It's more course size.
>>>>>
>>>>>Susan :)
>>>>>"Wayne Sallee" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Is it a fine grain sugar sized sand, or is it corse stuff?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Wayne Sallee
>>>>>>Wayne's Pets

>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Susan wrote on 12/7/2005 2:51 PM:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I have about 2" of Agra-live (think that's how you spell it) sand. My
>>>>>>>tanks have been running for a little over a year now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Susan :)
>>>>>>>"Wayne Sallee" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>What kind of substrate do you have?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Wayne Sallee
>>>>>>>>Wayne's Pets

>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Susan wrote on 12/6/2005 11:38 PM:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Thanks, I'll work on getting the bio ceramic cylinders out of the
>>>>>>>>>filter. Worth a shot.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Susan :)
>>>>>>>>>"Wayne Sallee" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Denitrification takes place down in the low oxygen areas of the
>>>>>>>>>>sand, and in the low oxygen areas in the liverock.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Let your live rock and live sand do the biological filtering
>>>>>>>>>>instead of the fluval. You may have to do this change gradualy.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Wayne Sallee
>>>>>>>>>>Wayne's Pets

>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Susan wrote on 12/6/2005 1:36 PM:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Hoping someone can help me with this. I have 2 fish and reef
>>>>>>>>>>>tanks one is a 46 gallon bow front and the other is a 29 gallon.
>>>>>>>>>>>The Nitrates in both tanks seem to be staying off the scale. They
>>>>>>>>>>>aren't over stocked. Fish, Invertebraes and corals (polys, soft
>>>>>>>>>>>corals) all seem to be doing well though. I still would like to
>>>>>>>>>>>get it lowered. I change the water in them but this doesn't seem
>>>>>>>>>>>to help. My question is I have Fluval filters on both of them. A
>>>>>>>>>>>204 on the 29 gallon and a 304 on the 46 gallon. I also have
>>>>>>>>>>>skimmers running on both. A Jebo on the 29 gallon and I upgraded
>>>>>>>>>>>to a Aqua-Remora on the 46 gallon (Didn't make a difference
>>>>>>>>>>>though.) Is there something in the Fluvals that I need to take
>>>>>>>>>>>out that could be causing this? I keep the charcoal changed. Just
>>>>>>>>>>>wandering if it could be the bio ceramic filtration that could be
>>>>>>>>>>>causing this in the Fluval? Anybody have any ideas?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks in advance :)
>>>>>>>>>>>Susan
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>
>

[Wayne Sallee]

Item number 1037

Wayne Sallee wrote on 12/7/2005 6:53 PM:
> Ask your favorate LFS if they can special order World Wide Imports
> ATLANT#1 CORAL SAND 20LB. The retail price for it is only around $10.00.
> That's what I sell a lot of. It's a nice fine sand at a good price. Just
> rense it in a 5 gallon bucket real good, and use a 2" pvc pipe to
> despence it into the tank so as to not cloud up the tank.
>
> Wayne Sallee
> Wayne's Pets
>
>
>
> Susan wrote on 12/7/2005 4:56 PM:
>
>> I haven't seen any local but will look around. Most places only have
>> the arag-alive. Thanks again.
>>
>> Susan :)
>> "Wayne Sallee" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> ummm, your local pet store :-) Preferabley a privately owned store,
>>> instead of a chain store.
>>>
>>> Wayne Sallee
>>> Wayne's Pets
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Susan wrote on 12/7/2005 4:23 PM:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Wayne. I always liked the sugar type sand. Where is a good
>>>> place to get this?
>>>>
>>>> Susan :)
>>>> "Wayne Sallee" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The finer sand does a better job of denitrifying the nitrates. You
>>>>> can add some fine calcium sand to improve denitrification.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wayne Sallee
>>>>> Wayne's Pets
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Susan wrote on 12/7/2005 3:12 PM:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> It's more course size.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Susan :)
>>>>>> "Wayne Sallee" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is it a fine grain sugar sized sand, or is it corse stuff?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wayne Sallee
>>>>>>> Wayne's Pets
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Susan wrote on 12/7/2005 2:51 PM:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have about 2" of Agra-live (think that's how you spell it)
>>>>>>>> sand. My tanks have been running for a little over a year now.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Susan :)
>>>>>>>> "Wayne Sallee" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What kind of substrate do you have?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Wayne Sallee
>>>>>>>>> Wayne's Pets
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Susan wrote on 12/6/2005 11:38 PM:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, I'll work on getting the bio ceramic cylinders out of
>>>>>>>>>> the filter. Worth a shot.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Susan :)
>>>>>>>>>> "Wayne Sallee" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Denitrification takes place down in the low oxygen areas of
>>>>>>>>>>> the sand, and in the low oxygen areas in the liverock.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Let your live rock and live sand do the biological filtering
>>>>>>>>>>> instead of the fluval. You may have to do this change gradualy.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Wayne Sallee
>>>>>>>>>>> Wayne's Pets
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Susan wrote on 12/6/2005 1:36 PM:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hoping someone can help me with this. I have 2 fish and
>>>>>>>>>>>> reef tanks one is a 46 gallon bow front and the other is a
>>>>>>>>>>>> 29 gallon. The Nitrates in both tanks seem to be staying off
>>>>>>>>>>>> the scale. They aren't over stocked. Fish, Invertebraes and
>>>>>>>>>>>> corals (polys, soft corals) all seem to be doing well
>>>>>>>>>>>> though. I still would like to get it lowered. I change the
>>>>>>>>>>>> water in them but this doesn't seem to help. My question is
>>>>>>>>>>>> I have Fluval filters on both of them. A 204 on the 29
>>>>>>>>>>>> gallon and a 304 on the 46 gallon. I also have skimmers
>>>>>>>>>>>> running on both. A Jebo on the 29 gallon and I upgraded to a
>>>>>>>>>>>> Aqua-Remora on the 46 gallon (Didn't make a difference
>>>>>>>>>>>> though.) Is there something in the Fluvals that I need to
>>>>>>>>>>>> take out that could be causing this? I keep the charcoal
>>>>>>>>>>>> changed. Just wandering if it could be the bio ceramic
>>>>>>>>>>>> filtration that could be causing this in the Fluval?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Anybody have any ideas?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance :)
>>>>>>>>>>>> Susan
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>
>>

[Susan]

Wow, not a bad price either.

Thanks for the info,
Susan :)
"Wayne Sallee" > wrote in message
...
> Item number 1037
>
> Wayne Sallee wrote on 12/7/2005 6:53 PM:
>> Ask your favorate LFS if they can special order World Wide Imports
>> ATLANT#1 CORAL SAND 20LB. The retail price for it is only around $10.00.
>> That's what I sell a lot of. It's a nice fine sand at a good price. Just
>> rense it in a 5 gallon bucket real good, and use a 2" pvc pipe to
>> despence it into the tank so as to not cloud up the tank.
>>
>> Wayne Sallee
>> Wayne's Pets
>>
>>
>>
>> Susan wrote on 12/7/2005 4:56 PM:
>>
>>> I haven't seen any local but will look around. Most places only have
>>> the arag-alive. Thanks again.
>>>
>>> Susan :)
>>> "Wayne Sallee" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>>> ummm, your local pet store :-) Preferabley a privately owned store,
>>>> instead of a chain store.
>>>>
>>>> Wayne Sallee
>>>> Wayne's Pets
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Susan wrote on 12/7/2005 4:23 PM:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Wayne. I always liked the sugar type sand. Where is a good
>>>>> place to get this?
>>>>>
>>>>> Susan :)
>>>>> "Wayne Sallee" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> The finer sand does a better job of denitrifying the nitrates. You
>>>>>> can add some fine calcium sand to improve denitrification.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wayne Sallee
>>>>>> Wayne's Pets
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Susan wrote on 12/7/2005 3:12 PM:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's more course size.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Susan :)
>>>>>>> "Wayne Sallee" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is it a fine grain sugar sized sand, or is it corse stuff?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Wayne Sallee
>>>>>>>> Wayne's Pets
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Susan wrote on 12/7/2005 2:51 PM:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have about 2" of Agra-live (think that's how you spell it) sand.
>>>>>>>>> My tanks have been running for a little over a year now.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Susan :)
>>>>>>>>> "Wayne Sallee" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What kind of substrate do you have?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Wayne Sallee
>>>>>>>>>> Wayne's Pets
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Susan wrote on 12/6/2005 11:38 PM:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, I'll work on getting the bio ceramic cylinders out of
>>>>>>>>>>> the filter. Worth a shot.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Susan :)
>>>>>>>>>>> "Wayne Sallee" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Denitrification takes place down in the low oxygen areas of the
>>>>>>>>>>>> sand, and in the low oxygen areas in the liverock.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Let your live rock and live sand do the biological filtering
>>>>>>>>>>>> instead of the fluval. You may have to do this change gradualy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Wayne Sallee
>>>>>>>>>>>> Wayne's Pets
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Susan wrote on 12/6/2005 1:36 PM:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hoping someone can help me with this. I have 2 fish and reef
>>>>>>>>>>>>> tanks one is a 46 gallon bow front and the other is a 29
>>>>>>>>>>>>> gallon. The Nitrates in both tanks seem to be staying off the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> scale. They aren't over stocked. Fish, Invertebraes and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> corals (polys, soft corals) all seem to be doing well though.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I still would like to get it lowered. I change the water in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> them but this doesn't seem to help. My question is I have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fluval filters on both of them. A 204 on the 29 gallon and a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 304 on the 46 gallon. I also have skimmers running on both. A
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jebo on the 29 gallon and I upgraded to a Aqua-Remora on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 46 gallon (Didn't make a difference though.) Is there
>>>>>>>>>>>>> something in the Fluvals that I need to take out that could be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> causing this? I keep the charcoal changed. Just wandering if
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it could be the bio ceramic filtration that could be causing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this in the Fluval? Anybody have any ideas?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Susan
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>>