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Mikey
January 13th 06, 12:06 PM
Hi all, my 80 gallon tank has 2 medium hermits, 1 green brittle star, 1
Emerald Mithrax Crab, 1 Lawnmower blenny, 1 Fridmani Pseudochromis, and 1
Flame Angel. And a bunch of snails. I've been VERY slow to add new life to
the tank.

This morning I saw ich on the flame angel. (I think its technically not ich,
but you know what I mean) There is no way I can catch this fish without
removing the live rock, and there is a LOT in there, as it will eventually
be a reef. It took a long time to get it all "cavey" for the future
inhabitants

Can anyone offer a suggestion on what to do? This "ich" has just shown up,
but it's definitely there.

Thanks, Mike

Roy
January 13th 06, 01:24 PM
The only thing you can do to get rid of it is remove the fish and put
it in a QT setup and treat. Treatments in a display tank itself is not
a very good idea by any means. It may be hard to remove a fish, but
its still doable with a little intuition and outwitting the fish....

On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 12:06:54 GMT, "Mikey"
> wrote:
>><>Hi all, my 80 gallon tank has 2 medium hermits, 1 green brittle star, 1
>><>Emerald Mithrax Crab, 1 Lawnmower blenny, 1 Fridmani Pseudochromis, and 1
>><>Flame Angel. And a bunch of snails. I've been VERY slow to add new life to
>><>the tank.
>><>
>><>This morning I saw ich on the flame angel. (I think its technically not ich,
>><>but you know what I mean) There is no way I can catch this fish without
>><>removing the live rock, and there is a LOT in there, as it will eventually
>><>be a reef. It took a long time to get it all "cavey" for the future
>><>inhabitants
>><>
>><>Can anyone offer a suggestion on what to do? This "ich" has just shown up,
>><>but it's definitely there.
>><>
>><>Thanks, Mike
>><>

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Wayne Sallee
January 13th 06, 03:42 PM
Roy wrote on 1/13/2006 8:24 AM:
> The only thing you can do to get rid of it is remove the fish and put
> it in a QT setup and treat.

Or you can make sure that there are no stress factores,
and let it get over it on it's own.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets

Wayne Sallee
January 13th 06, 05:15 PM
It's also highly recomendable to keep a pair of cleaner
shrimp in your reef tank.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Wayne Sallee wrote on 1/13/2006 10:42 AM:
> Roy wrote on 1/13/2006 8:24 AM:
>
>> The only thing you can do to get rid of it is remove the fish and put
>> it in a QT setup and treat.
>
>
> Or you can make sure that there are no stress factores, and let it get
> over it on it's own.
>
> Wayne Sallee
> Wayne's Pets
>

George
January 13th 06, 06:34 PM
"Wayne Sallee" > wrote in message
...
> It's also highly recomendable to keep a pair of cleaner shrimp in your
> reef tank.
>
> Wayne Sallee
> Wayne's Pets
>
>

Umm, the Green brittle star will make a good meal out of any shrimp you put
in that tank. Take it from someone who has had a green brittle star in his
tank for ten years.

George

Wayne Sallee
January 13th 06, 06:54 PM
I didn't pay attention to what he had. :-)
I see now that he also has a Pseudochromis, and they would
be a big risk to the cleaner shrimp. I am actualy able to
keep pseudochromis in tanks with cleaner shrimp here in
the store, but the way I am able to do so, is to put the
cleaner shrimp in first, so that the Pseudochromis is the
new guy. The other way around, the the shrimp becomes
lunch. Also the Pseudochromis that I have are not full
grown, as they do get biger. I don't recomend this
combonation to customers though.


Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



George wrote on 1/13/2006 1:34 PM:
> "Wayne Sallee" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>It's also highly recomendable to keep a pair of cleaner shrimp in your
>>reef tank.
>>
>>Wayne Sallee
>>Wayne's Pets

>>
>
>
> Umm, the Green brittle star will make a good meal out of any shrimp you put
> in that tank. Take it from someone who has had a green brittle star in his
> tank for ten years.
>
> George
>
>

Susan
January 13th 06, 07:05 PM
Yep, I like the cleaner shrimp to keep rid of ich on my fish. I call it a
car wash as the fish "pulls up" lifts it fin and the cleaner shrimp cleans
it up. I also though don't have any other inverts or fish to bother the
cleaners. I would recommend having a tank set up where you can keep several
of them. Just my 2 cents :)

Susan :)



"Wayne Sallee" > wrote in message
...
>I didn't pay attention to what he had. :-)
> I see now that he also has a Pseudochromis, and they would be a big risk
> to the cleaner shrimp. I am actualy able to keep pseudochromis in tanks
> with cleaner shrimp here in the store, but the way I am able to do so, is
> to put the cleaner shrimp in first, so that the Pseudochromis is the new
> guy. The other way around, the the shrimp becomes lunch. Also the
> Pseudochromis that I have are not full grown, as they do get biger. I
> don't recomend this combonation to customers though.
>
>
> Wayne Sallee
> Wayne's Pets
>
>
>
> George wrote on 1/13/2006 1:34 PM:
>> "Wayne Sallee" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>>It's also highly recomendable to keep a pair of cleaner shrimp in your
>>>reef tank.
>>>
>>>Wayne Sallee
>>>Wayne's Pets

>>>
>>
>>
>> Umm, the Green brittle star will make a good meal out of any shrimp you
>> put in that tank. Take it from someone who has had a green brittle star
>> in his tank for ten years.
>>
>> George

Mikey
January 14th 06, 02:15 AM
There's no way to net this guy. Maybe a trap of some sort? All the research
I did for the fish and animals I liked mentioned "Plenty of caves and hiding
places" I took it literally when I chose the live rock from Drs. Foster and
Smith, and when I arranged the rock in the tank. The tank is clean, water
temp 76, specific gravity 1.022. Wet/dry filter, big skimmer, I test the
water for ph, alkalinity, phosphates, nitrates, ammonia, etc. I use oceanic
sea salt mix. Twice daily feedings of Formula Foods Pygmy Angel Formula. The
Pseudochromis gets plankton and helps with the angel formula. The blenny
keeps the hair algae mowed down. Is there anything else I could do to
relieve stress?

I'm just worried because it's such a beautiful fish. I swear it looks like
there is less on him/her now than this morning. This morning there were
maybe 12-20 "Ich dots" on him, and after being gone all day, tonight I see
maybe 4-6. None on the other 2 fish, although its a little hard to be 100%
certain on the blenny.

So these things can clear up on their own? Or is it wishful thinking on my
part? I know I had to dose the crap out of the fish when I got it in my
freshwater tank way back when.

Thanks for all your advice to panic boy here....


"Wayne Sallee" > wrote in message
...
> Roy wrote on 1/13/2006 8:24 AM:
>> The only thing you can do to get rid of it is remove the fish and put
>> it in a QT setup and treat.
>
> Or you can make sure that there are no stress factores, and let it get
> over it on it's own.
>
> Wayne Sallee
> Wayne's Pets
>

Hawk-I
January 14th 06, 06:38 AM
If you don't want or (can't) remove your fish
a sudden drop in salinity over a few hours
to 1.017 or 16 and raise the temp to 80 for
about 3 weeks works real well I have done this
in the past with success also you will find it
recommended by Delbeek and Sprung in the first
volume of there two part book

Mikey wrote:
> Hi all, my 80 gallon tank has 2 medium hermits, 1 green brittle star, 1
> Emerald Mithrax Crab, 1 Lawnmower blenny, 1 Fridmani Pseudochromis, and 1
> Flame Angel. And a bunch of snails. I've been VERY slow to add new life to
> the tank.
>
> This morning I saw ich on the flame angel. (I think its technically not ich,
> but you know what I mean) There is no way I can catch this fish without
> removing the live rock, and there is a LOT in there, as it will eventually
> be a reef. It took a long time to get it all "cavey" for the future
> inhabitants
>
> Can anyone offer a suggestion on what to do? This "ich" has just shown up,
> but it's definitely there.
>
> Thanks, Mike
>
>

Hawk-I
January 14th 06, 06:38 AM
If you don't want or (can't) remove your fish
a sudden drop in salinity over a few hours
to 1.017 or 16 and raise the temp to 80 for
about 3 weeks works real well I have done this
in the past with success also you will find it
recommended by Delbeek and Sprung in the first
volume of there two part book

Mikey wrote:
> Hi all, my 80 gallon tank has 2 medium hermits, 1 green brittle star, 1
> Emerald Mithrax Crab, 1 Lawnmower blenny, 1 Fridmani Pseudochromis, and 1
> Flame Angel. And a bunch of snails. I've been VERY slow to add new life to
> the tank.
>
> This morning I saw ich on the flame angel. (I think its technically not ich,
> but you know what I mean) There is no way I can catch this fish without
> removing the live rock, and there is a LOT in there, as it will eventually
> be a reef. It took a long time to get it all "cavey" for the future
> inhabitants
>
> Can anyone offer a suggestion on what to do? This "ich" has just shown up,
> but it's definitely there.
>
> Thanks, Mike
>
>

Wayne Sallee
January 14th 06, 03:30 PM
Yes it can clear up on it's own.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Mikey wrote on 1/13/2006 9:15 PM:
> There's no way to net this guy. Maybe a trap of some sort? All the research
> I did for the fish and animals I liked mentioned "Plenty of caves and hiding
> places" I took it literally when I chose the live rock from Drs. Foster and
> Smith, and when I arranged the rock in the tank. The tank is clean, water
> temp 76, specific gravity 1.022. Wet/dry filter, big skimmer, I test the
> water for ph, alkalinity, phosphates, nitrates, ammonia, etc. I use oceanic
> sea salt mix. Twice daily feedings of Formula Foods Pygmy Angel Formula. The
> Pseudochromis gets plankton and helps with the angel formula. The blenny
> keeps the hair algae mowed down. Is there anything else I could do to
> relieve stress?
>
> I'm just worried because it's such a beautiful fish. I swear it looks like
> there is less on him/her now than this morning. This morning there were
> maybe 12-20 "Ich dots" on him, and after being gone all day, tonight I see
> maybe 4-6. None on the other 2 fish, although its a little hard to be 100%
> certain on the blenny.
>
> So these things can clear up on their own? Or is it wishful thinking on my
> part? I know I had to dose the crap out of the fish when I got it in my
> freshwater tank way back when.
>
> Thanks for all your advice to panic boy here....
>
>
> "Wayne Sallee" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Roy wrote on 1/13/2006 8:24 AM:
>>
>>>The only thing you can do to get rid of it is remove the fish and put
>>>it in a QT setup and treat.
>>
>>Or you can make sure that there are no stress factores, and let it get
>>over it on it's own.
>>
>>Wayne Sallee
>>Wayne's Pets

>
>
>

Wayne Sallee
January 14th 06, 03:39 PM
Yea and it's really great on invertebrates :-)

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Hawk-I wrote on 1/14/2006 1:38 AM:
> If you don't want or (can't) remove your fish
> a sudden drop in salinity over a few hours
> to 1.017 or 16 and raise the temp to 80 for
> about 3 weeks works real well I have done this
> in the past with success also you will find it
> recommended by Delbeek and Sprung in the first
> volume of there two part book
>
> Mikey wrote:
>
>> Hi all, my 80 gallon tank has 2 medium hermits, 1 green brittle star,
>> 1 Emerald Mithrax Crab, 1 Lawnmower blenny, 1 Fridmani Pseudochromis,
>> and 1 Flame Angel. And a bunch of snails. I've been VERY slow to add
>> new life to the tank.
>>
>> This morning I saw ich on the flame angel. (I think its technically
>> not ich, but you know what I mean) There is no way I can catch this
>> fish without removing the live rock, and there is a LOT in there, as
>> it will eventually be a reef. It took a long time to get it all
>> "cavey" for the future inhabitants
>>
>> Can anyone offer a suggestion on what to do? This "ich" has just shown
>> up, but it's definitely there.
>>
>> Thanks, Mike
>>
>

Ray Martini
January 14th 06, 04:26 PM
SG of 1.022 is a little low for a reef. 1.025 is more in line.

There's a product called "The Trap" that may help you cacthing the Angel to
QT him. It has worked for me several times.

http://www.bigalsonline.com/catalog/product.xml?product_id=19249;category_id=2349


"Mikey" > wrote in message
...
>
> There's no way to net this guy. Maybe a trap of some sort? All the
> research I did for the fish and animals I liked mentioned "Plenty of caves
> and hiding places" I took it literally when I chose the live rock from
> Drs. Foster and Smith, and when I arranged the rock in the tank. The tank
> is clean, water temp 76, specific gravity 1.022. Wet/dry filter, big
> skimmer, I test the water for ph, alkalinity, phosphates, nitrates,
> ammonia, etc. I use oceanic sea salt mix. Twice daily feedings of Formula
> Foods Pygmy Angel Formula. The Pseudochromis gets plankton and helps with
> the angel formula. The blenny keeps the hair algae mowed down. Is there
> anything else I could do to relieve stress?
>
> I'm just worried because it's such a beautiful fish. I swear it looks like
> there is less on him/her now than this morning. This morning there were
> maybe 12-20 "Ich dots" on him, and after being gone all day, tonight I see
> maybe 4-6. None on the other 2 fish, although its a little hard to be 100%
> certain on the blenny.
>
> So these things can clear up on their own? Or is it wishful thinking on my
> part? I know I had to dose the crap out of the fish when I got it in my
> freshwater tank way back when.
>
> Thanks for all your advice to panic boy here....
>
>
> "Wayne Sallee" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Roy wrote on 1/13/2006 8:24 AM:
>>> The only thing you can do to get rid of it is remove the fish and put
>>> it in a QT setup and treat.
>>
>> Or you can make sure that there are no stress factores, and let it get
>> over it on it's own.
>>
>> Wayne Sallee
>> Wayne's Pets
>>
>
>

Mikey
January 14th 06, 07:51 PM
Thanks everybody. Its all cleared up now, very strange. I'll get a trap in
case it appears again and does not go away. I appreciate all the advice.
Mike


"Wayne Sallee" > wrote in message
...
> Yea and it's really great on invertebrates :-)
>
> Wayne Sallee
> Wayne's Pets
>
>
>
> Hawk-I wrote on 1/14/2006 1:38 AM:
>> If you don't want or (can't) remove your fish
>> a sudden drop in salinity over a few hours
>> to 1.017 or 16 and raise the temp to 80 for
>> about 3 weeks works real well I have done this
>> in the past with success also you will find it
>> recommended by Delbeek and Sprung in the first
>> volume of there two part book
>>
>> Mikey wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all, my 80 gallon tank has 2 medium hermits, 1 green brittle star, 1
>>> Emerald Mithrax Crab, 1 Lawnmower blenny, 1 Fridmani Pseudochromis, and
>>> 1 Flame Angel. And a bunch of snails. I've been VERY slow to add new
>>> life to the tank.
>>>
>>> This morning I saw ich on the flame angel. (I think its technically not
>>> ich, but you know what I mean) There is no way I can catch this fish
>>> without removing the live rock, and there is a LOT in there, as it will
>>> eventually be a reef. It took a long time to get it all "cavey" for the
>>> future inhabitants
>>>
>>> Can anyone offer a suggestion on what to do? This "ich" has just shown
>>> up, but it's definitely there.
>>>
>>> Thanks, Mike
>>>
>>

NoSpam
January 15th 06, 12:02 AM
Its part of the cycle of ich...It will drop off the fish into the tank where
it will hatch releasing lots more of the buggers. It may come back so be
prepared...


"Mikey" > wrote in message
...
> Thanks everybody. Its all cleared up now, very strange. I'll get a trap in
> case it appears again and does not go away. I appreciate all the advice.
> Mike
>
>
> "Wayne Sallee" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Yea and it's really great on invertebrates :-)
>>
>> Wayne Sallee
>> Wayne's Pets
>>
>>
>>
>> Hawk-I wrote on 1/14/2006 1:38 AM:
>>> If you don't want or (can't) remove your fish
>>> a sudden drop in salinity over a few hours
>>> to 1.017 or 16 and raise the temp to 80 for
>>> about 3 weeks works real well I have done this
>>> in the past with success also you will find it
>>> recommended by Delbeek and Sprung in the first
>>> volume of there two part book
>>>
>>> Mikey wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all, my 80 gallon tank has 2 medium hermits, 1 green brittle star, 1
>>>> Emerald Mithrax Crab, 1 Lawnmower blenny, 1 Fridmani Pseudochromis, and
>>>> 1 Flame Angel. And a bunch of snails. I've been VERY slow to add new
>>>> life to the tank.
>>>>
>>>> This morning I saw ich on the flame angel. (I think its technically not
>>>> ich, but you know what I mean) There is no way I can catch this fish
>>>> without removing the live rock, and there is a LOT in there, as it will
>>>> eventually be a reef. It took a long time to get it all "cavey" for the
>>>> future inhabitants
>>>>
>>>> Can anyone offer a suggestion on what to do? This "ich" has just shown
>>>> up, but it's definitely there.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, Mike
>>>>
>>>
>
>

Hawk-I
January 15th 06, 05:28 PM
And how many books have you written????
plz let me know I'm sure there Funny as all hell
by some of your so called knowledge I've seen you
post here not that its all bad but you sound just
like your a typical store keeper with very little
knowledge that thinks he knows it all and always
trying to sell you stuff you don't need and doesn't
work. So unless You have actually tried it like
i have and many others in the reef central forum
which is where most people here should go to get there
info instead of some news group with half wit store
keepers like you BUT then again this is where you
belong because you would be laughed out of any
serious forum


Wayne Sallee wrote:
> Yea and it's really great on invertebrates :-)
>
> Wayne Sallee
> Wayne's Pets
>
>
>
> Hawk-I wrote on 1/14/2006 1:38 AM:
>
>> If you don't want or (can't) remove your fish
>> a sudden drop in salinity over a few hours
>> to 1.017 or 16 and raise the temp to 80 for
>> about 3 weeks works real well I have done this
>> in the past with success also you will find it
>> recommended by Delbeek and Sprung in the first
>> volume of there two part book
>>
>> Mikey wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all, my 80 gallon tank has 2 medium hermits, 1 green brittle star,
>>> 1 Emerald Mithrax Crab, 1 Lawnmower blenny, 1 Fridmani Pseudochromis,
>>> and 1 Flame Angel. And a bunch of snails. I've been VERY slow to add
>>> new life to the tank.
>>>
>>> This morning I saw ich on the flame angel. (I think its technically
>>> not ich, but you know what I mean) There is no way I can catch this
>>> fish without removing the live rock, and there is a LOT in there, as
>>> it will eventually be a reef. It took a long time to get it all
>>> "cavey" for the future inhabitants
>>>
>>> Can anyone offer a suggestion on what to do? This "ich" has just
>>> shown up, but it's definitely there.
>>>
>>> Thanks, Mike
>>>
>>

NoSpam
January 15th 06, 05:48 PM
Who is this directed at????
"Hawk-I" > wrote in message
...
> And how many books have you written????
> plz let me know I'm sure there Funny as all hell
> by some of your so called knowledge I've seen you
> post here not that its all bad but you sound just
> like your a typical store keeper with very little
> knowledge that thinks he knows it all and always
> trying to sell you stuff you don't need and doesn't
> work. So unless You have actually tried it like
> i have and many others in the reef central forum
> which is where most people here should go to get there
> info instead of some news group with half wit store
> keepers like you BUT then again this is where you
> belong because you would be laughed out of any
> serious forum
>
>
> Wayne Sallee wrote:
>> Yea and it's really great on invertebrates :-)
>>
>> Wayne Sallee
>> Wayne's Pets
>>
>>
>>
>> Hawk-I wrote on 1/14/2006 1:38 AM:
>>
>>> If you don't want or (can't) remove your fish
>>> a sudden drop in salinity over a few hours
>>> to 1.017 or 16 and raise the temp to 80 for
>>> about 3 weeks works real well I have done this
>>> in the past with success also you will find it
>>> recommended by Delbeek and Sprung in the first
>>> volume of there two part book
>>>
>>> Mikey wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all, my 80 gallon tank has 2 medium hermits, 1 green brittle star, 1
>>>> Emerald Mithrax Crab, 1 Lawnmower blenny, 1 Fridmani Pseudochromis, and
>>>> 1 Flame Angel. And a bunch of snails. I've been VERY slow to add new
>>>> life to the tank.
>>>>
>>>> This morning I saw ich on the flame angel. (I think its technically not
>>>> ich, but you know what I mean) There is no way I can catch this fish
>>>> without removing the live rock, and there is a LOT in there, as it will
>>>> eventually be a reef. It took a long time to get it all "cavey" for the
>>>> future inhabitants
>>>>
>>>> Can anyone offer a suggestion on what to do? This "ich" has just shown
>>>> up, but it's definitely there.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, Mike
>>>>
>>>
>

Hawk-I
January 15th 06, 08:29 PM
to the only individual who continuously has
to through his $0.02 in for he feels SELF
important in this news group not that he
doesn't have some knowledge but must ridicule
with his useless and ignorant comments tord
anyone who actualy dose have knowledge
Wayne

NoSpam wrote:
> Who is this directed at????
> "Hawk-I" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>And how many books have you written????
>>plz let me know I'm sure there Funny as all hell
>>by some of your so called knowledge I've seen you
>>post here not that its all bad but you sound just
>>like your a typical store keeper with very little
>>knowledge that thinks he knows it all and always
>>trying to sell you stuff you don't need and doesn't
>>work. So unless You have actually tried it like
>>i have and many others in the reef central forum
>>which is where most people here should go to get there
>>info instead of some news group with half wit store
>>keepers like you BUT then again this is where you
>>belong because you would be laughed out of any
>>serious forum
>>
>>
>>Wayne Sallee wrote:
>>
>>>Yea and it's really great on invertebrates :-)
>>>
>>>Wayne Sallee
>>>Wayne's Pets

>>>
>>>
>>>Hawk-I wrote on 1/14/2006 1:38 AM:
>>>
>>>
>>>>If you don't want or (can't) remove your fish
>>>>a sudden drop in salinity over a few hours
>>>>to 1.017 or 16 and raise the temp to 80 for
>>>>about 3 weeks works real well I have done this
>>>>in the past with success also you will find it
>>>>recommended by Delbeek and Sprung in the first
>>>>volume of there two part book
>>>>
>>>>Mikey wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hi all, my 80 gallon tank has 2 medium hermits, 1 green brittle star, 1
>>>>>Emerald Mithrax Crab, 1 Lawnmower blenny, 1 Fridmani Pseudochromis, and
>>>>>1 Flame Angel. And a bunch of snails. I've been VERY slow to add new
>>>>>life to the tank.
>>>>>
>>>>>This morning I saw ich on the flame angel. (I think its technically not
>>>>>ich, but you know what I mean) There is no way I can catch this fish
>>>>>without removing the live rock, and there is a LOT in there, as it will
>>>>>eventually be a reef. It took a long time to get it all "cavey" for the
>>>>>future inhabitants
>>>>>
>>>>>Can anyone offer a suggestion on what to do? This "ich" has just shown
>>>>>up, but it's definitely there.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks, Mike
>>>>>
>>>>
>
>

Wayne Sallee
January 16th 06, 03:23 PM
In case you didn't notice, I was saying it tong in cheak,
hence the smiley face.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Hawk-I wrote on 1/15/2006 12:28 PM:
> And how many books have you written????
> plz let me know I'm sure there Funny as all hell
> by some of your so called knowledge I've seen you
> post here not that its all bad but you sound just
> like your a typical store keeper with very little
> knowledge that thinks he knows it all and always
> trying to sell you stuff you don't need and doesn't
> work. So unless You have actually tried it like
> i have and many others in the reef central forum
> which is where most people here should go to get there
> info instead of some news group with half wit store
> keepers like you BUT then again this is where you
> belong because you would be laughed out of any
> serious forum
>
>
> Wayne Sallee wrote:
>
>> Yea and it's really great on invertebrates :-)
>>
>> Wayne Sallee
>> Wayne's Pets
>>
>>
>>
>> Hawk-I wrote on 1/14/2006 1:38 AM:
>>
>>> If you don't want or (can't) remove your fish
>>> a sudden drop in salinity over a few hours
>>> to 1.017 or 16 and raise the temp to 80 for
>>> about 3 weeks works real well I have done this
>>> in the past with success also you will find it
>>> recommended by Delbeek and Sprung in the first
>>> volume of there two part book
>>>
>>> Mikey wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all, my 80 gallon tank has 2 medium hermits, 1 green brittle
>>>> star, 1 Emerald Mithrax Crab, 1 Lawnmower blenny, 1 Fridmani
>>>> Pseudochromis, and 1 Flame Angel. And a bunch of snails. I've been
>>>> VERY slow to add new life to the tank.
>>>>
>>>> This morning I saw ich on the flame angel. (I think its technically
>>>> not ich, but you know what I mean) There is no way I can catch this
>>>> fish without removing the live rock, and there is a LOT in there, as
>>>> it will eventually be a reef. It took a long time to get it all
>>>> "cavey" for the future inhabitants
>>>>
>>>> Can anyone offer a suggestion on what to do? This "ich" has just
>>>> shown up, but it's definitely there.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, Mike
>>>>
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