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Hammer
January 14th 06, 06:02 AM
I recently installed a Red Sea Prizm Protein Skimmer. This probably
sounds like a dumb questions but when the insuctions talk about wet
vs. dry foam I have no idea what they are talking about. All foam to
me is wet??? The instructions do not explain the difference just say
that Dry foam is what you want? I have no idea what dry foam is or
how to get it. So please after have a good laugh at me for not knowing
could you please expalin what they heck they are talking about.

Thanks,
Mark.

January 14th 06, 02:13 PM
When they say wet or dry foam, they mean relatively wet or dry. A 'wet'
foam will give you a watery skimmate in the collection cup. A 'dry'
foam gives you a thicker skimmate.

For what it's worth, I never got any foam out of my Prizm skimmer. If
you're using a hang on skimmer, the Aqua C Remora is very reliable and
easy to use.


HTH,
Mark

Wayne Sallee
January 14th 06, 03:38 PM
Yep a dry foam is thick, and produces dark skimmate, and a
wet foam is watery, and produces a watery skimmate.

I had a skimmer running so dry one time that everything in
the collection cup was nothing but piled up crumbles of
bone dry foam. That's not the ideal way to do it, but it
was funny to look at it and say "Now that's a dry foam" :-)

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



wrote on 1/14/2006 9:13 AM:
> When they say wet or dry foam, they mean relatively wet or dry. A 'wet'
> foam will give you a watery skimmate in the collection cup. A 'dry'
> foam gives you a thicker skimmate.
>
> For what it's worth, I never got any foam out of my Prizm skimmer. If
> you're using a hang on skimmer, the Aqua C Remora is very reliable and
> easy to use.
>
>
> HTH,
> Mark
>

Susan
January 14th 06, 05:17 PM
I have a Aqua C Remora that has been running for about 3 months or so. It's
recently slowed down a whole lot and not producing any skim mate hardly at
all. Is this common?

Thanks,
Susan :)
"Wayne Sallee" > wrote in message
...
> Yep a dry foam is thick, and produces dark skimmate, and a wet foam is
> watery, and produces a watery skimmate.
>
> I had a skimmer running so dry one time that everything in the collection
> cup was nothing but piled up crumbles of bone dry foam. That's not the
> ideal way to do it, but it was funny to look at it and say "Now that's a
> dry foam" :-)
>
> Wayne Sallee
> Wayne's Pets
>
>
>
> wrote on 1/14/2006 9:13 AM:
>> When they say wet or dry foam, they mean relatively wet or dry. A 'wet'
>> foam will give you a watery skimmate in the collection cup. A 'dry'
>> foam gives you a thicker skimmate.
>>
>> For what it's worth, I never got any foam out of my Prizm skimmer. If
>> you're using a hang on skimmer, the Aqua C Remora is very reliable and
>> easy to use.
>>
>>
>> HTH,
>> Mark
>>

Wayne Sallee
January 14th 06, 08:56 PM
I'm not familiar with that brand, but have you cleaned it
recently? After a while a film builds up in the risor
colum, and reduces it's efectivenes.

Also check to see if it is producing the desired amount of
water flow, and air input.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Susan wrote on 1/14/2006 12:17 PM:
> I have a Aqua C Remora that has been running for about 3 months or so. It's
> recently slowed down a whole lot and not producing any skim mate hardly at
> all. Is this common?
>
> Thanks,
> Susan :)
> "Wayne Sallee" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Yep a dry foam is thick, and produces dark skimmate, and a wet foam is
>>watery, and produces a watery skimmate.
>>
>>I had a skimmer running so dry one time that everything in the collection
>>cup was nothing but piled up crumbles of bone dry foam. That's not the
>>ideal way to do it, but it was funny to look at it and say "Now that's a
>>dry foam" :-)
>>
>>Wayne Sallee
>>Wayne's Pets

>>
>>
wrote on 1/14/2006 9:13 AM:
>>
>>>When they say wet or dry foam, they mean relatively wet or dry. A 'wet'
>>>foam will give you a watery skimmate in the collection cup. A 'dry'
>>>foam gives you a thicker skimmate.
>>>
>>>For what it's worth, I never got any foam out of my Prizm skimmer. If
>>>you're using a hang on skimmer, the Aqua C Remora is very reliable and
>>>easy to use.
>>>
>>>
>>>HTH,
>>>Mark
>>>
>
>
>

TheRock
January 15th 06, 04:35 AM
Yes...Clean it.
Once per day if you can.


"Wayne Sallee" > wrote in message
...
> I'm not familiar with that brand, but have you cleaned it recently? After
> a while a film builds up in the risor colum, and reduces it's efectivenes.
>
> Also check to see if it is producing the desired amount of water flow, and
> air input.
>
> Wayne Sallee
> Wayne's Pets
>
>
>
> Susan wrote on 1/14/2006 12:17 PM:
>> I have a Aqua C Remora that has been running for about 3 months or so.
>> It's recently slowed down a whole lot and not producing any skim mate
>> hardly at all. Is this common?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Susan :)
>> "Wayne Sallee" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>>Yep a dry foam is thick, and produces dark skimmate, and a wet foam is
>>>watery, and produces a watery skimmate.
>>>
>>>I had a skimmer running so dry one time that everything in the collection
>>>cup was nothing but piled up crumbles of bone dry foam. That's not the
>>>ideal way to do it, but it was funny to look at it and say "Now that's a
>>>dry foam" :-)
>>>
>>>Wayne Sallee
>>>Wayne's Pets

>>>
>>>
wrote on 1/14/2006 9:13 AM:
>>>
>>>>When they say wet or dry foam, they mean relatively wet or dry. A 'wet'
>>>>foam will give you a watery skimmate in the collection cup. A 'dry'
>>>>foam gives you a thicker skimmate.
>>>>
>>>>For what it's worth, I never got any foam out of my Prizm skimmer. If
>>>>you're using a hang on skimmer, the Aqua C Remora is very reliable and
>>>>easy to use.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>HTH,
>>>>Mark
>>>>
>>
>>

eskimoigloo
January 15th 06, 09:38 AM
I think what the original poster (and me after now reading this) was
really after, was how you set the skimmer up to produce a dry foam
rather than a wet foam... as i get this watery collection in the cup
rather than the thick gloupy stuff I see in other skimmers. Is it all
down to the water level in the riser column or the amount of organics
in your water?

Thanks.
Chris.

Roy
January 15th 06, 02:22 PM
Adjust the skimmer to produce oits column of bubbles lower n the
reactor tube for a drier skim and higher up in the column for wetter
skim....
The wetter the skim they say the more junk is taken out overall but it
also increases the need to add more top off water. I prefer a drier
skim myself which is usually a much more darker mass.
On 15 Jan 2006 01:38:32 -0800, "eskimoigloo"
> wrote:
>><>I think what the original poster (and me after now reading this) was
>><>really after, was how you set the skimmer up to produce a dry foam
>><>rather than a wet foam... as i get this watery collection in the cup
>><>rather than the thick gloupy stuff I see in other skimmers. Is it all
>><>down to the water level in the riser column or the amount of organics
>><>in your water?
>><>
>><>Thanks.
>><>Chris.

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Captain Feedback
January 15th 06, 02:56 PM
Have you cleaned the inside of the collection cup's tower (the vertical
tube)? I find I need to do this about every three or four days.

If you have, it's possible that some particle has gotten inside the
skimmer and is clogging it. The Remora comes with directions for
removing such a clog, by removing the adjustment screw and running a
brush through the hole. Be very careful when reinserting the
adjustment screw to avoid pushing the screw inside the skimmer.

Susan wrote:
> I have a Aqua C Remora that has been running for about 3 months or so. It's
> recently slowed down a whole lot and not producing any skim mate hardly at
> all. Is this common?

Wayne Sallee
January 16th 06, 03:20 PM
Most skimmers, you adjust the amount of air going in. Some
skimmers, you can adjust the hight of the colum so that
the foam has to rise higher.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



eskimoigloo wrote on 1/15/2006 4:38 AM:
> I think what the original poster (and me after now reading this) was
> really after, was how you set the skimmer up to produce a dry foam
> rather than a wet foam... as i get this watery collection in the cup
> rather than the thick gloupy stuff I see in other skimmers. Is it all
> down to the water level in the riser column or the amount of organics
> in your water?
>
> Thanks.
> Chris.
>

January 17th 06, 03:45 PM
On 16 Jan 2006 10:28:20 -0800, wrote:

>HiHi,
>
>A point about that screw. It's not an "adjustment" screw. It's
>actually only an access port to the Injector so you can clean it out.
>That's what the small bristle brush that was included is for.
>
>Good luck with your Remora. Mine never worked and was replaced. I
>finally tried the much cheaper CoraLife which worked correctly right
>out of the box.
>

HI,

You've had success with the CoralLife? I'm currently debating whether
to buy one of those at $89 or spend $250+ on an AquaC Urchin. As I
understand it, the Urchin is the in-sump version of the Remora. As
far as the Remora goes, most people love it and a few think it's
worthless. There doesn't seem to be an "it works ok" consensus. I
can't seem to find much of an opinion on the CoralLife, positive or
negative. I'd appreciate any feedback on either brand, or other good
skimmers for that matter. BTW, this is to run on moderately stocked
65 gallon.

Thanks,
Grant

Roy
January 17th 06, 03:58 PM
I have 5 of the Coralife super skimmers in use and they work as good
or better than any Remora skimmer does.......if you were to check out
other internet based forums such as Reef Central you can find lots of
opinions on CSS and other brands. I'll admit, at first the coralife
skimmers sucked, and hard as yu tired, they did not work, but it was
not the skimmer itself, it was the instructions that were wrong and it
gave erroneous directinos on setting them up. They did have a few bugs
like leaky adjustment knobs, but they have been redesigned and that
problem is history.....Actually the red knob did not leak if it was
setup properly so they were perfectly fine to use.....if you knew how
to set it up, but by Coralife changing the design they made it idiot
proof no matter how yu set it up. The coralifes are a good bang for
the buck, and do a great job. Easy to adjust for wet or dry skim, and
they are quiet compared to lots of the high dollar skimmerss out there
like Remoras.

I fooled with quite a few brands of skimmers before going with
coralife, as I had access to lots of different brands and types from a
freind that has used tons of various skimmers in his LFS......Coral
llife gave the best bang for the buck and does what skimmers are
supposed to do, remove skim without having to constantly fiddle with
it......Coralifes teck support is equal to none IMHO, as they are
always ready to do what it takes to make the customer happy....
I owuld go with the 125 model on your 65 gal tank, as most if not all
skimmers are over rated anyhow, and from what I hear and read its
virtually impossible to realy overskim......

Regards


On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:45:29 GMT, wrote:
>><>On 16 Jan 2006 10:28:20 -0800, wrote:
>><>
>><>>HiHi,
>><>>
>><>>A point about that screw. It's not an "adjustment" screw. It's
>><>>actually only an access port to the Injector so you can clean it out.
>><>>That's what the small bristle brush that was included is for.
>><>>
>><>>Good luck with your Remora. Mine never worked and was replaced. I
>><>>finally tried the much cheaper CoraLife which worked correctly right
>><>>out of the box.
>><>>
>><>
>><>HI,
>><>
>><>You've had success with the CoralLife? I'm currently debating whether
>><>to buy one of those at $89 or spend $250+ on an AquaC Urchin. As I
>><>understand it, the Urchin is the in-sump version of the Remora. As
>><>far as the Remora goes, most people love it and a few think it's
>><>worthless. There doesn't seem to be an "it works ok" consensus. I
>><>can't seem to find much of an opinion on the CoralLife, positive or
>><>negative. I'd appreciate any feedback on either brand, or other good
>><>skimmers for that matter. BTW, this is to run on moderately stocked
>><>65 gallon.
>><>
>><>Thanks,
>><>Grant

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January 23rd 06, 06:58 PM
On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 17:17:34 GMT, "Susan" >
wrote:

>I have a Aqua C Remora that has been running for about 3 months or so. It's
>recently slowed down a whole lot and not producing any skim mate hardly at
>all. Is this common?
>
>Thanks,
>Susan :)

Susan,

If you have cleaned the riser tube, as others have suggested, and it
still doesn't work very well, try taking it off the tank and immersing
it in the sink in tepid freshwater.
I do not know or use this skimmer( so don't immerse the electrics !),
but all skimmers accumulate salt deposits with use, and the freshwater
is required to remove the salt. You may have to completely
dissassemble the skimmer to clean the pump. HTH.

Regards, Fishnut.


>"Wayne Sallee" > wrote in message
...
>> Yep a dry foam is thick, and produces dark skimmate, and a wet foam is
>> watery, and produces a watery skimmate.
>>
>> I had a skimmer running so dry one time that everything in the collection
>> cup was nothing but piled up crumbles of bone dry foam. That's not the
>> ideal way to do it, but it was funny to look at it and say "Now that's a
>> dry foam" :-)
>>
>> Wayne Sallee
>> Wayne's Pets
>>
>>
>>
>> wrote on 1/14/2006 9:13 AM:
>>> When they say wet or dry foam, they mean relatively wet or dry. A 'wet'
>>> foam will give you a watery skimmate in the collection cup. A 'dry'
>>> foam gives you a thicker skimmate.
>>>
>>> For what it's worth, I never got any foam out of my Prizm skimmer. If
>>> you're using a hang on skimmer, the Aqua C Remora is very reliable and
>>> easy to use.
>>>
>>>
>>> HTH,
>>> Mark
>>>
>

Susan
January 25th 06, 11:39 PM
Thanks for the info. I actually did clean it up and now it seems to be
working a little better.

Thanks again,
Susan (Who is still new at this and is learning :))
> wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 17:17:34 GMT, "Susan" >
> wrote:
>
>>I have a Aqua C Remora that has been running for about 3 months or so.
>>It's
>>recently slowed down a whole lot and not producing any skim mate hardly at
>>all. Is this common?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Susan :)
>
> Susan,
>
> If you have cleaned the riser tube, as others have suggested, and it
> still doesn't work very well, try taking it off the tank and immersing
> it in the sink in tepid freshwater.
> I do not know or use this skimmer( so don't immerse the electrics !),
> but all skimmers accumulate salt deposits with use, and the freshwater
> is required to remove the salt. You may have to completely
> dissassemble the skimmer to clean the pump. HTH.
>
> Regards, Fishnut.
>
>
>>"Wayne Sallee" > wrote in message
...
>>> Yep a dry foam is thick, and produces dark skimmate, and a wet foam is
>>> watery, and produces a watery skimmate.
>>>
>>> I had a skimmer running so dry one time that everything in the
>>> collection
>>> cup was nothing but piled up crumbles of bone dry foam. That's not the
>>> ideal way to do it, but it was funny to look at it and say "Now that's a
>>> dry foam" :-)
>>>
>>> Wayne Sallee
>>> Wayne's Pets
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> wrote on 1/14/2006 9:13 AM:
>>>> When they say wet or dry foam, they mean relatively wet or dry. A 'wet'
>>>> foam will give you a watery skimmate in the collection cup. A 'dry'
>>>> foam gives you a thicker skimmate.
>>>>
>>>> For what it's worth, I never got any foam out of my Prizm skimmer. If
>>>> you're using a hang on skimmer, the Aqua C Remora is very reliable and
>>>> easy to use.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> HTH,
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>
>